[Java] Object Oriented Programming - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

lunchbox · 10-13-2004, 12:30 PM

So here's the story, I'm a college freshman at Michigan Tech. I'm taking my first programming class and I wanted to do the homework at home instead of fighting for lab time and running over there whenever an idea on how to fix something hits me. So they run all Fedora machines over in the labs and I run XP. The editor they use which i happen to like is gvim. I'm not aware if Gvim will run on windows or not.

I have already installed Java2DkSE and I'm just looking for an editor that is at least somewhat like Gvim. the one that seems to best suit my needs is JCreator but my question is what's the difference between the LE version and PRO?

so I know that was a lot of questions there but any help would be great.

a-j · 10-13-2004, 02:38 PM

GVim does run on Windows (www.vim.org). It is my default editor for almost anything text. Since it's based on vi it may take a little getting used to if you're not familiar with it.

If you are going to be doing extensive programming I would suggest an IDE, maybe Eclipse - its very powerful, but may take some time getting used to. Most IDEs have cool features like syntax completion and file/class hierarchical navigation.

TheAgent · 10-13-2004, 04:14 PM

i usually use Eclipse for Java programming... in my Java class, we use JDev from Oracle (it sucks)...

Herk · 10-13-2004, 04:30 PM

Bah, I got all exited about some OOP rumpus, then your question had nothing to do with the title. Shucks.

froseph · 10-13-2004, 04:32 PM

gvim exists everywhere!!! screw you IDE!

TheAgent · 10-13-2004, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by froseph

gvim exists everywhere!!! screw you IDE!

but can it auto-generate getter and setter methods for your private member variables?

Eclipse can

lunchbox · 10-13-2004, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Herk

Bah, I got all exited about some OOP rumpus, then your question had nothing to do with the title. Shucks.

heh, sorry man. Its the class title and it IS what we're doing. I'm just no expert yet.

boredom · 10-13-2004, 08:27 PM

Well you can do Rational Rose for system modeling, it also generates most of the code once your done modelling. Then you can use Eclipse as your IDE, its very nice though the only bad part is some of the explanation for code errors are confusing. The fact that its open source also means it takes a while to start up, but other then that its all good.

Herk · 10-14-2004, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lunchbox

heh, sorry man. Its the class title and it IS what we're doing. I'm just no expert yet.

Oh, it's the class tiltle. That makes sense. I'm certainly no expert either, but seeing discusions about it definitely help me go in that direction.

I just picked up vim because I'd seen in mentioned before, and I saw it endorsed here. Nice editor. It seems to be a lot more powerful than what I've used it for thus far, but for what I've seen it is pretty flawless.

Herk

a-j · 10-17-2004, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nuvdar

The fact that its open source also means it takes a while to start up, but other then that its all good.

Being open source has nothing to do with it's long startup times.

Visual studio is also slow at starting (a lot slower than I'd like anyway). I think the main reason it takes so long is the plug-in architecture and the tens or hundreds of default plugins it uses. The more modular you make things (which eclipse is highly modularized) the longer it takes to coordinate everything. Combine this with Eclipse being written in Java and that is probably why it takes so long to startup.

10-13-2004, 12:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
lunchbox Thank God hockey is back Location: Deeeeeetroit	[Java] Object Oriented Programming So here's the story, I'm a college freshman at Michigan Tech. I'm taking my first programming class and I wanted to do the homework at home instead of fighting for lab time and running over there whenever an idea on how to fix something hits me. So they run all Fedora machines over in the labs and I run XP. The editor they use which i happen to like is gvim. I'm not aware if Gvim will run on windows or not. I have already installed Java2DkSE and I'm just looking for an editor that is at least somewhat like Gvim. the one that seems to best suit my needs is JCreator but my question is what's the difference between the LE version and PRO? so I know that was a lot of questions there but any help would be great.

10-13-2004, 04:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
Herk Insane Location: Kansas City, MO	Bah, I got all exited about some OOP rumpus, then your question had nothing to do with the title. Shucks. __________________ -Blind faith runs into things!-

10-13-2004, 04:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
froseph Tilted	gvim exists everywhere!!! screw you IDE! __________________ sometimes it just takes a cat

10-13-2004, 02:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
a-j Tilted	GVim does run on Windows (www.vim.org). It is my default editor for almost anything text. Since it's based on vi it may take a little getting used to if you're not familiar with it. If you are going to be doing extensive programming I would suggest an IDE, maybe Eclipse - its very powerful, but may take some time getting used to. Most IDEs have cool features like syntax completion and file/class hierarchical navigation.

10-13-2004, 04:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
TheAgent Upright	i usually use Eclipse for Java programming... in my Java class, we use JDev from Oracle (it sucks)...

10-13-2004, 08:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
boredom Insane Location: California	Well you can do Rational Rose for system modeling, it also generates most of the code once your done modelling. Then you can use Eclipse as your IDE, its very nice though the only bad part is some of the explanation for code errors are confusing. The fact that its open source also means it takes a while to start up, but other then that its all good.