Cingular Wireless Phones: Which one to get?

[Jephree]

I need to get a new tri-band (or quad) Cingular Wireless phone. What are you guys/gals using and how do you like it?

[punx1325]

Look at the Motorola V400. It's a really nice phone, but they have the V600 coming out very soon. I've been looking into a new phone recently. And both are Motorolas finest products yet. The 400 is on sale right now for 99 bucks, you might want to take up on that offer. I know the new 600 will retail for about 300 bucks.

[Jephree]

Originally posted by punx1325
Look at the Motorola V400. It's a really nice phone, but they have the V600 coming out very soon. I've been looking into a new phone recently. And both are Motorolas finest products yet. The 400 is on sale right now for 99 bucks, you might want to take up on that offer. I know the new 600 will retail for about 300 bucks.

Is the 400 $99 w/ or w/out a contract renewal?

Actually, I'm going to look at the cingular website right now. Hopefully, I'll find the info there.

THX punx

[Jephree]

V400 looks nice. I'm considering this and the newest Samsung (forgot the model #).

[tinfoil]

I am not on Cingular (due to their startling lack of a Canadian presence) but I will say that I am very happy with all the Samsung phones I have used.

I have about 15 phones that I give out to my sales staff. MOst are Samsungs or LG (I really like LG too) but also include a couple Motos. I am not quite as happy with the Motos, especially if in an area where coverage is a little spotty.

[Jephree]

I've heard the same things about Motorolla. I currently have the Samsung N625 and have problems getting reception in spotty areas. Even more disturbing, due to the fact that I live up on the hill, I get ZERO reception. It's one of the main reasons I need to upgrade, in addition to needing tri/quad-band service.

Tinfoil: which Samsung model would you rec?

[punx1325]

I have heard good things about samsung, I just am not a fan of the company. LG's are a plastic piece of crap. If you drop it, the phone is done. There's a girl on my floor whos dad helped design the Motorola T720, so thats why I'm a bit more partial to Motorola.

[steelerz]

I've got the Motorola T720. I've had to replace it twice (covered by warr.) because of a short in the ear piece. I like the phone really well but the third one is starting to do the same thing after 3 months so I'm going to samsung this time.

[FaderMonkey]

I have a Siemens S-56 with Cingular and it's a piece of sh*t. I love the size of it, but some of the buttons are just too small and some of them have just stopped working.

[punx1325]

I just switched over to cingular yesterday and got the Motorola V400. This phone is fuckin sick!!!!! It has a speakerphone, camera, plays mp3's, a beautiful color screen. This is an incredible piece of technology!!! And only 100 bucks right now!

[Cynthetiq]

seems like all the AT&T wireless people will be doing the same shuffle soon enough too....I better figure out which one I like or which carrier i'm going to move to...

Cingular agrees to buy AT&T Wireless

Deal would create nation's largest cellular carrier

The Associated Press

Updated: 11:28 a.m. ET Feb. 17, 2004

ATLANTA - Cingular Wireless won the bidding war to acquire AT&T Wireless Services for nearly $41 billion in cash, a deal that would create the nation's largest cell phone company.

The merger between the second and third largest U.S. wireless companies was announced Tuesday as Britain's Vodafone Group PLC withdrew from the contest after four days of rising bids.

Combined, Cingular and AT&T Wireless will have 46 million subscribers, enough to leapfrog Verizon Wireless' market leading customer base of 37.5 million.

AT&T Wireless chief executive John Zeglis will not remain with the combined company once a deal is approved, he told reporters Tuesday in a conference call. Cingular CEO Stan Sigman will be chief of the company, Zeglis said.

"I'll hang around anytime Stan wants me to and then I'm onto the next thing," Zeglis said. Pressed on the issue, he said he would not remain with the company after closing, adding "We don't need two new CEOs."

Guzman and Co. analyst Patrick Comack said he didn't think the deal would lead to higher wireless phone prices for consumers. "You still have some very aggressive competitors out there. Customers still have five choices," he said.

Cingular, a joint venture between SBC Communications Inc. and BellSouth Corp., said its winning bid was for $15 per share, an amount that would value AT&T Wireless at $40.7 billion.

That includes the 16 percent stake in AT&T Wireless held by NTT DoCoMo of Japan, a BellSouth spokesman said. Cingular will also assume $6 billion of debt owed by AT&T Wireless.

The agreement, subject to the approval of AT&T Wireless shareholders and regulatory authorities, may be the largest all-cash transaction in U.S. history, said David Caouette, spokesman for AT&T Wireless.

The combined company will carry the Cingular name and once a deal is approved billing and other operational functions will be merged, though there will be no immediate impact on customers, said Ralph de la Vega, Cingular's chief operating officer.

He said federal regulators may ask the combined company to divest certain assets where there is overlap.

"We think that there should not be any divestitures required," de la Vega said. "The greatest competition is perhaps right here in the U.S. so the consolidation of two of the players should not cause any problems for competitors. Even in areas of overlap, there is sufficient competition not to warrant it."

As far as possible job cuts or management changes, de la Vega indicated there could be some, though he would not elaborate. The combined company would have about 70,000 employees.
"We will look at the combined operations and look for where there is overlap and see where we can be more efficient," he said.

Caouette of AT&T Wireless said some employees would be affected because large-scale mergers create "duplicate functions" that can be eliminated. AT&T Wireless had already planned to cut 1,900 jobs from of a work force of 31,000 by the end of 2005.

The analyst Comack said he expects there to be significant layoffs because there is so much overlap between the companies.

"They don't need the AT&T Wireless employees at all. They might save some salesman, but everything is redundant," Comack said. "Cingular doubled their customer base and doubled their spectrum, but they can run that with the same amount of employees."

In addition to paying AT&T Wireless shareholders a 27 percent premium over the company's closing stock price of $11.82 on Friday, the merger could reduce the fierce competition that has driven down prices in the U.S. cellular market, trimming the number of national players from six to five.

Zeglis, the AT&T Wireless chairman and CEO, said in a statement that the transaction means "a handsome return" for investors, advantages for customers and more opportunities for employees.

The deal brought to an end a heated bidding war between Cingular and Vodafone that saw both companies boosting their offers following a Friday deadline to submit bid set by AT&T Wireless.

Cingular, which had 23.4 million customers late last year, opened its bidding at $13 a share, or $35 billion, two sources told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. It then raised its offer to $14 a share early Monday; Vodafone matched Cingular's offers in each stage of the process, a source said.

De la Vega said the bidding heated up early Tuesday when Cingular raised its bid a final time to more than $40 billion. He said it is not clear if Vodafone dropped out of the race before or after Cingular upped its bid.

A Vodafone deal would have required the British cell phone giant to sell its 45 percent stake in Verizon Wireless.

After announcing it had dropped out, Vodafone said Tuesday that it remained "committed to its existing position in the U.S. market with its successful partnership in Verizon Wireless."
AT&T Wireless' share price has risen steadily in recent weeks on news that it was putting itself on the auction block.

The carrier, based in Redmond, Wash., has more than 22 million subscribers, including a sizable base of corporate clients who tend to use more services and spend more money.
However, the company has struggled in recent months.

Late last year, it couldn't add new subscribers because of a glitch in a new software system designed to improve customer service.

AT&T Wireless also has acknowledged that it lost more customers than it gained under new federal rules that took effect in late November allowing cell phone users to change carriers without losing their phone numbers. The company has not released specific figures.

(c) 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

[Jephree]

Buddy of mine just got the V400. Awesome phone overall. I was amazed at how clear
the screen was. Made my decision.

V400 for sure.