IE 6.05, Pop-Up Ad Blocking to Debut in Windows XP SP2 - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Nomad · 11-08-2003, 01:52 PM

http://www.winnetmag.com/Article/Art...785/40785.html

You won't need to wait for Longhorn in late 2005 to get pop-up ad blocking in Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE). Microsoft will release IE 6.05 as part of Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), which is due in the first half of 2004. Whether IE 6.05 will include some of the other new IE features, such as the new download manager, found in the Microsoft Professional Developers Conference (PDC) 2003 Longhorn build is unclear. But pop-up ad blocking is definitely among the changes we can expect, as are other new security features such as more locked-down Internet security zones.

Latch · 11-08-2003, 04:24 PM

Ohhh.. good job Microsoft! They're at the cutting edge.. no other browser does this yet!!!!

/sarcasm

Thanks for the post, though.

edit:
re-reading that, kind of sounds like I'm talking to you, Nomad.. I'm just making fun of M$, no insult is directed towards you.

santafe5000 · 11-08-2003, 05:41 PM

Guess Microsoft figured they better get with the program since most other browser's have some type of blocker. Better late than never.

BoCo · 11-08-2003, 10:30 PM

Still no tabbed browsing?

yotta · 11-08-2003, 11:19 PM

I think that many people would be confused by tabbed browsing. That being said, I use it all the time. Cuts down on taskbar clutter.

Speed_Gibson · 11-08-2003, 11:25 PM

would rather spend $40 and rip the whole f'ing thing out along with outlook, windows media player, included games, and several other items

guthmund · 11-09-2003, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by santafe5000
Guess Microsoft figured they better get with the program since most other browser's have some type of blocker. Better late than never.

But knowing Microsofts reputation, they're "cutting edge" blocker will probably end up causing more problems than fixing....

I guess if you can't lead, media blitz the public with mediocrity

sailor · 11-09-2003, 08:29 AM

The problem with this isnt that there are other, better alternatives, but that there would no longer be a good reason for non-techie people to switch to a different browser. The biggest way I have gotten people to switch is by telling them that Moz/Firebird/Opera blocks popups. Once MS starts offering this feature, there will be no reason for them to switch. Sure, there are tons of other reasons for computer people to switch, but your average person doesnt care about the other benefits--they will just stick to what they know now that it blocks popups: IE.

Not to say that this is the end of third party browsers, but it would make it much more difficult to get non-techie people to switch.

Redlemon · 11-09-2003, 09:15 AM

My regret, as a Firebird user, is that since 95% of users stil have popups in IE, popups still exist. Once IE blocks popups, the ad agencies will have to come up with even more intrusive ad technologies.

I don't block regular ads or even flash ads, even though I know how, because I know that web pages need advertizing money. I draw the line at popups.

juanvaldes · 11-09-2003, 10:49 AM

I hear ya redlemon, the hordes of idiots still using IE allow us to get away with cool stuff without pissing off the advertisers.

What I wonder is will it be easily turned of so the majority will find the option (Apple sticks it in the application menu wtih prefs & quit, it's hard to miss) or will it be stuff down in the abyss that is IE's pref system never to be found by mere mortals.

only time will tell...

Speed_Gibson · 11-09-2003, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by redlemon
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I don't block regular ads or even flash ads, even though I know how, because I know that web pages need advertizing money. I draw the line at popups.

I block everything, I strongly dislike having to see them or being forced to disable "web pager filters" just to read something on the ESPN.com NBA section.

ARTelevision · 11-09-2003, 12:07 PM

Internet Explorer is fine with me - always has been.
It makes sense for me to use what my customers use.

Nomad · 11-09-2003, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by juanvaldes
I hear ya redlemon, the hordes of idiots still using IE allow us to get away with cool stuff without pissing off the advertisers.

What I wonder is will it be easily turned of so the majority will find the option (Apple sticks it in the application menu wtih prefs & quit, it's hard to miss) or will it be stuff down in the abyss that is IE's pref system never to be found by mere mortals.

only time will tell...

I really don't think the majority of the users on this forum (Myself included) appreciate being called an idiot just because we use Internet Explorer. Would you like It if someone called you an Idiot for no other reason than the fact that you use a Mac.

And If you had bothered to look at the screen captures I posted In this thread.

http://www.boomspeed.com/damon559/LH3.JPG
http://tfproject.org/tfp/showthread....threadid=34552

You would have seen the answer to your question.

Speed_Gibson · 11-09-2003, 01:20 PM

my personal reaction on seeing that first screenshot showing the tools menu is disgust; both at the integration with that deplorable windows media player and the horribly cartoonish default XP look that I always kill immediately.
but never mind me, I have nothing against people using IE if it works for them. Personally I won't touch it (or very likely even have it available at all when I reinstall) and do wish more people used a more standards compliant browser that uses the presto or gecko engine.

docbungle · 11-09-2003, 04:29 PM

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I hear ya redlemon, the hordes of idiots still using IE allow us to get away with cool stuff without pissing off the advertisers.

This is such a blatantly ignorant statement. I find it funny you consider yourself superior to others based on something so trivial. Grow up.

saline · 11-09-2003, 08:38 PM

I've done it before I'll do it again, I can't say enough how much I love firebird, I encourage everybody to go check it out. You won't understand how inadequate IE is until you try something different.

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/

It's free, it's more stable than IE, it's already got built in pop up blocking, it's fast, built in search bar, fully customizable with skins and software extentions check it out, get converted.

Moskie · 11-11-2003, 04:30 AM

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Originally posted by Speed_Gibson
I block everything, I strongly dislike having to see them or being forced to disable "web pager filters" just to read something on the ESPN.com NBA section.

Not to be aggressive, but do you have a better solution for how those websites should pay their bills? Perhaps every website should charge for content? I agree that there's a line that can be crossed, in terms of annoying/obtrusive ads... but we (internet users) have gome to expect internet sites to be free. But they're far from it.

11-08-2003, 01:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
Nomad Heathen Location: California	IE 6.05, Pop-Up Ad Blocking to Debut in Windows XP SP2 http://www.winnetmag.com/Article/Art...785/40785.html You won't need to wait for Longhorn in late 2005 to get pop-up ad blocking in Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE). Microsoft will release IE 6.05 as part of Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), which is due in the first half of 2004. Whether IE 6.05 will include some of the other new IE features, such as the new download manager, found in the Microsoft Professional Developers Conference (PDC) 2003 Longhorn build is unclear. But pop-up ad blocking is definitely among the changes we can expect, as are other new security features such as more locked-down Internet security zones.

11-08-2003, 05:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
santafe5000 EVIL! Location: Southwest of nowhere	Guess Microsoft figured they better get with the program since most other browser's have some type of blocker. Better late than never. __________________ When all else fails, QUIT.

11-08-2003, 10:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
BoCo Fear the bunny Location: Hanging off the tip of the Right Wing	Still no tabbed browsing? __________________ Activism is a way for useless people to feel important.

11-08-2003, 11:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
yotta Irresponsible	I think that many people would be confused by tabbed browsing. That being said, I use it all the time. Cuts down on taskbar clutter. __________________ I am Jack's signature.

11-08-2003, 11:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Speed_Gibson Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? Location: right here of course	would rather spend $40 and rip the whole f'ing thing out along with outlook, windows media player, included games, and several other items __________________ Started talking to yourself I see. Yes, it's the only way I can be certain of an intelligent conversation. Black Adder

11-08-2003, 04:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
Latch In Your Dreams Location: City of Lights	Ohhh.. good job Microsoft! They're at the cutting edge.. no other browser does this yet!!!! /sarcasm Thanks for the post, though. edit: re-reading that, kind of sounds like I'm talking to you, Nomad.. I'm just making fun of M$, no insult is directed towards you.

11-09-2003, 08:29 AM	#8 (permalink)
sailor beauty in the breakdown Location: Chapel Hill, NC	The problem with this isnt that there are other, better alternatives, but that there would no longer be a good reason for non-techie people to switch to a different browser. The biggest way I have gotten people to switch is by telling them that Moz/Firebird/Opera blocks popups. Once MS starts offering this feature, there will be no reason for them to switch. Sure, there are tons of other reasons for computer people to switch, but your average person doesnt care about the other benefits--they will just stick to what they know now that it blocks popups: IE. Not to say that this is the end of third party browsers, but it would make it much more difficult to get non-techie people to switch. __________________ "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." --Plato

11-09-2003, 09:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	My regret, as a Firebird user, is that since 95% of users stil have popups in IE, popups still exist. Once IE blocks popups, the ad agencies will have to come up with even more intrusive ad technologies. I don't block regular ads or even flash ads, even though I know how, because I know that web pages need advertizing money. I draw the line at popups. __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.

11-09-2003, 10:49 AM	#10 (permalink)
juanvaldes Banned Location: shittown, CA	I hear ya redlemon, the hordes of idiots still using IE allow us to get away with cool stuff without pissing off the advertisers. What I wonder is will it be easily turned of so the majority will find the option (Apple sticks it in the application menu wtih prefs & quit, it's hard to miss) or will it be stuff down in the abyss that is IE's pref system never to be found by mere mortals. only time will tell...

11-09-2003, 12:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
ARTelevision I change Location: USA	Internet Explorer is fine with me - always has been. It makes sense for me to use what my customers use. __________________ create evolution

11-09-2003, 01:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
Speed_Gibson Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? Location: right here of course	my personal reaction on seeing that first screenshot showing the tools menu is disgust; both at the integration with that deplorable windows media player and the horribly cartoonish default XP look that I always kill immediately. but never mind me, I have nothing against people using IE if it works for them. Personally I won't touch it (or very likely even have it available at all when I reinstall) and do wish more people used a more standards compliant browser that uses the presto or gecko engine. __________________ Started talking to yourself I see. Yes, it's the only way I can be certain of an intelligent conversation. Black Adder

11-09-2003, 08:38 PM	#16 (permalink)
saline Upright Location: where ever help is needed	I've done it before I'll do it again, I can't say enough how much I love firebird, I encourage everybody to go check it out. You won't understand how inadequate IE is until you try something different. http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/ It's free, it's more stable than IE, it's already got built in pop up blocking, it's fast, built in search bar, fully customizable with skins and software extentions check it out, get converted. __________________ "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." "A riot is the language of the unheard." "Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed." "The time is always right to do what is right. " "One who condones evils is just as guilty as the one who perpetrates it." - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.