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Xerxys 05-01-2010 04:56 PM

Wireless Mouse Emulator?
 
Hi Y'all,

I recently bought a Kensington Ci65m wireless mouse and it comes with a receiver. You know, the one that plugs into a USB port. Now, lazy ass me does not want the extra daunting task of plugging in that receiver. I want a program that will manage this without the receiver. One that will utilize the existing wireless modem already installed on the computer and connect to the wireless mouse that way.

Here's what I figure, the receiver is an antenna, right? Computer already has an antenna. The receiver has a unique key pre-coded in it during manufacturing that it utilizes to communicate with the mouse, wirelessly. Brings me back to my first point, the computer can already do that, it has an antenna. What I want is to copy the information in the receiver to the computer and have the computer communicate with the mouse directly.

It is a challenge, yes, but once again my researching skills that have brought me untold pornography failed to provide me with this information. Probably even far more feasible to invest the effort in getting a bluetooth mouse or this other one by the same company, but no, I accept the challenge ...

help me ...

Punk.of.Ages 05-01-2010 05:07 PM

I'm not very tech-savvy, but I don't believe a computer has the same type of receiver built in already. I believe that a wireless mouse uses a different kind of wave to communicate with its receiver than a wireless modem receives.

I very well could be completely off base here, but I think that's how it works.

Just get a blue-tooth mouse, man... =p

Martian 05-01-2010 05:13 PM

It's not a different type of wave, as they'll both use RF. It is different frequencies, different modulation, different bus...

No. Just no. You can't do this.

Cynthetiq 05-01-2010 05:13 PM

so you researched and wrote all this up all because you didn't want to just plug something in?

there's something seriously wrong with you... something very very wrong with you. I forgot what movie that was from.

you'd need to know that you're working in the same frequencies and controls. More than likely you are not able to do such a thing from an already existing consumer item.

Xerxys 05-01-2010 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Punk.of.Ages (Post 2783146)
... but I don't believe a computer has the same type of receiver built in already. I believe that a wireless mouse uses a different kind of wave to communicate with its receiver than a wireless modem receives.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martian (Post 2783148)
It's not a different type of wave, as they'll both use RF. It is different frequencies, different modulation, different bus...

The Martian is half right. However, a monopoly on a bus can be manipulated. It might not even be necessary to do so, IF the wireless card is capable. It probably is, not manufacturing one in this day and age is unreasonable. I just don't know how. Frequencies on the other hand are relevant but a little hurdle.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq (Post 2783149)
... you'd need to know that you're working in the same frequencies and controls. More than likely you are not able to do such a thing from an already existing consumer item.

Herein lies the rub. Finding out what frequencies the wireless device uses, what encryption it uses, how it handles multi-tasking ...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq (Post 2783149)
... there's something seriously wrong with you... something very very wrong with you.

DON'T YOU FUCKING JUDGE ME!!

Baraka_Guru 05-01-2010 07:29 PM

So.... why is it you didn't just get a bluetooth mouse?

Xerxys 05-01-2010 08:01 PM

^^ Are you kidding me? Bluetooth mouses (not mice) are for quitters! I WILL NOT QUIT!!

WinchesterAA 05-01-2010 08:24 PM

bash-3.1# iwconfig wlan0
wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:"FFFFFF"
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF
Bit Rate=1 Mb/s Tx-Power=27 dBm
Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=2352 B
Encryption key:off
Power Management:off
Link Quality=88/100 Signal level:23/100
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0


Usage: iwlist [interface] frequency

bash-3.1# iwlist wlan0 freq
wlan0 11 channels in total; available frequencies :
Channel 01 : 2.412 GHz
Channel 02 : 2.417 GHz
Channel 03 : 2.422 GHz
Channel 04 : 2.427 GHz
Channel 05 : 2.432 GHz
Channel 06 : 2.437 GHz
Channel 07 : 2.442 GHz
Channel 08 : 2.447 GHz
Channel 09 : 2.452 GHz
Channel 10 : 2.457 GHz
Channel 11 : 2.462 GHz
Current Frequency=2.437 GHz (Channel 6)



Quote:

freq/channel
Give the list of available frequencies in the device and the number of defined channels. Please note that usually the driver returns the total number of channels and only the frequencies available in the present locale, so there is no one to one mapping between frequencies displayed and channel numbers.

Xerxys 05-01-2010 08:58 PM

:bowdown:

This. This is how I feel when a challenge I undertake has a fleeting sense of completion.

Now, I shall take the $10 I saved off the bluetooth mouse and place it toward therapy.

MexicanOnABike 05-02-2010 05:47 AM

so you got it to work?

Martian 05-02-2010 09:05 AM

No, he didn't get it to work. I know this, because what he wants to do can't be done.

You cause me such fearsome headaches, Xerxys.

Xerxys 05-02-2010 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MexicanOnABike (Post 2783254)
so you got it to work?

No, not yet. But it will.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martian (Post 2783316)
You cause me such fearsome headaches, Xerxys.

Dude, I can't even begin to worry about you right now ... I just swallowed a couple of pain killers for my head and fingers because of carpal tunnel syndrome!!

inBOIL 05-02-2010 01:23 PM

This isn't the kind of thing you do to save yourself some (minor) hassle. This is the kind of thing you do because you've got ungodly amounts of free time and want to execute an awkward workaround solely for the geek cred. Yes, it's technically possible to make this work. It's also technically possible to move a car across the country by dismantling it, carrying the pieces on your back over multiple trips, and reassembling them at your destination.

yotta 05-03-2010 09:00 PM

Unless this is a bluetooth mouse and your computer has built in bluetooth, any attempts are a waste of time. A wifi card or cellular modem has a digital signal processing chip built into it that is able to only work with a few supported modulations. Anything else is impossible on that hardware.

It would be *possible* to modify the mouse to speak wifi, but it'd be questionably sane, and would require you to spend in the range of $50-$150. So, even if you modified your mouse to speak wifi, you would need to write the code to make it speak ethernet, and write a driver for your computer to turn ethernet packets into mouse movement. If you get *that* far, you still have the issue that the mouse will not be able to connect to your wifi card whilst you are using said wifi card for internet access.

boink 05-16-2010 04:04 PM

I think you might be able to get a droid phone to do this via wifi.


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