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Itunn 10-06-2004 11:43 PM

Again? It shut down last year and now again? Will it shut down again next year?

whiteox 10-07-2004 12:51 AM

Maybe I could post some passes under Entertainment. LOL

On a serious note guys, although I havent been a member very long I have noted the professionalism & dedication shown in the running of TFP. The many of you that make use of the passes that I & others supply via the Links thread should perhaps think about donating what it would have normally cost you to enter just one of these sites. Basically. if you donate enough for the necessary upgrades the cost of entering just one site will give you access to the hundreds of passes that are posted every week. Sounds like a good deal to me.

Something for the Admin's to ponder.

coash 10-07-2004 01:54 AM

who gives half a flying turd about passes? you can find passes on IRC. if you can't remember the site of the preview vid that you want to jack off to use kazaa to find it. full dvds can be found on BT sites. EZ isn't the only forum to host that stuff. yada yada. now everyone go on health and fitness and talk about lifting. there's no lifting topics. there should be more. start an upper chest isolation debate. if you don't, I will.

whiteox 10-07-2004 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coash
why would anyone donate
there's traffic only cos it's free


Great to see your intelligence still shining through coash. :thumbsup:

dioxin 10-07-2004 02:26 AM

To Halx:
Ok you showed us that you are the boss and that you can do whatever you want with this board - it's yours , it's your right.These guys only are irritate becouse of the fact that their favourite board on this site is gone for some reason they don't care of.Ok i understand you don't care too , but think about that :
These people are maybe 1/3 of the members who visit your site EVERY DAY.These could say are loyal enough to worth something.Every day look for at least 10 posts in all the boards of the EZ.

My suggestion:
If i had that much people comming everyday to my site i would insert adverts in every post and every forum and make these people click on them and earn money for me.There are lots of refferal programs and i think that one click is not a problem for these horny dogs :)
In 2 words: insert adver banner and oblige the visitors of these board to click on them.There are 100's kinds to make the clicking obliged.

I think this is a good way to have the EZ back and have money for running the site.Well...after all it's your call ,but i liked the EZ and i would like to help it back.

regardz

mordret 10-07-2004 02:48 AM

Halx: I totally agree with you ; I love the TFP ! I mainly visit the humor section, but I like the diversity of the forums very much, and I want to thank you for your time and efforts ! Thumbs ups !

SecretMethod70 10-07-2004 03:08 AM

dioxin: If you'll notice, there are no advertisements on TFP. Why? Because they're EVERYWHERE ELSE on the internet. This is yet another one of the things setting TFP apart from the rest of the net. A free, civil place to meet and discuss - these are things that the TFP is about. Porn is not. 1/3 of users, 2/3 of users, whatever. The porn is not the purpose, and those who are here for only porn and contribute nowhere else on the site and/or contribute nothing to help the site run will, ultimately, not be missed if they leave. Thanks for the suggestion, and if the porn meant anything in the grand scheme of things, perhaps it would be considered, but it doesn't. In fact, I would venture to say that the majority of our top contributors could care less if the EZ were to be removed for everyone and permanently. Of course, this is not necessary because removing it strictly to contributors of relatively little to no posts elsewhere on the board and also of no money is sufficient in restoring decent access for those people who put their own personalities on the board with 100s and sometimes 1000s of posts OUTSIDE of the EZ.

A little anecdote: When I first found TFP, no registration whatsoever was required. One could view the forums without registering and even post to the forums without doing so. Then, I'm assuming for reasons much like this one, Halx chose to get rid of guest posting and guest access to the forums. I didn't complain about this at all. I simply became a registered user and began looking around to see what else TFP had to offer. Back then it was, admittedly, not relatively all that much. I think there were only 2 or 3 non-porn forums. BUT, while TFP may have not had a broad number of forums then, it had the same high-quality people and discussions as it does now. All it took was 2 or 3 non-porn forums to hook me in and make the porn only a secondary thing to me on this site. Now, instead of 2 or 3, you have over 30. If you can't find in those forums that the porn is not what the TFP is about, then the TFP is not for you.

coash 10-07-2004 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteox
Great to see your intelligence still shining through coash. :thumbsup:

go contribute to the board before you have a swing turdboi

whiteox 10-07-2004 03:35 AM

I repeat:

Great to see your intelligence still shining through coash.

coash 10-07-2004 03:53 AM

try harder. but it's good that you're trying.

whiteox 10-07-2004 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coash
try harder. but it's good that you're trying.

I'm not very clever, but i can lift heavy things, huh coash

coash 10-07-2004 05:11 AM

swing and miss...booyah. do you even know what CoASH is, bakayaro

maximoff72 10-07-2004 05:58 AM

I am pretty new, and love this site so far! I will be a donater just as soon as I can! thanks for a home away from home!

Hanxter 10-07-2004 06:19 AM

a few statistics, these numbers may or may not mean anything to those that think only with their dick, but i find them enlightening...

since the last rebuild in april 03...

post count greater than followed by number of users

10 / 6710
20 / 5039
30 / 4135
40 / 3560
50 / 3201
100 / 2386
150 / 1854
200 / 1506
250 / 1279

now HERE'S the kicker...

post count less than followed by number of users

10 / 33996
20 / 35819
30 / 36742
40 / 37352
50 / 37727
100 / 38544
150 / 39084
200 / 39438
250 / 39676

see the trend???

40,000 members supported by 436 donors, BUT, there are some 3,000 members that haven't give a dime and have access...

why???

they donate through their participation... their contributions are given by their thoughtful activity in the many other forums...

please, do not be confused between the two

HomerSimpson 10-07-2004 06:48 AM

i joined tfp as i was told it was a good comunity, not just for porn. like alot of people said, `this isnt here just for u porn freaks`
peace out

Ofirethorn 10-07-2004 06:59 AM

Okay this is supposed to be Civilized conversation and discussion.

Partcipation it is a the only answer that works, as for the Nickle comment........ Hey guy look around you, My money is directly linked to the price of Disiel fuel, and soon the price is going to hurt you too. Karma is a Bitch beleve me.

Hanxter 10-07-2004 07:41 AM

coash and whitesox - please keep the bickering to yourselves - much appreciated - thanx!!!

iceburn 10-07-2004 07:49 AM

I've probably made about 10-25 posts so I can't talk from a post-contributing standpoint. I like the community here but I run my own board, and post on other boards too. But I did make a donation over a year ago, and I would definitely donate cash again.

When the porn was pulled the first time I was pissed, but running this kind of board has got to be mad stressful. If there are 100 fucking people on at a time and nobody's donating, that's messed up. This site is dependable, the titty board is pretty f-ing sweet, and the owner shouldn't be expected to do all of this for everybody out of his pocket. Word. If you're reading this and haven't donated, donate something and maybe the board will come back.

summerkc 10-07-2004 08:07 AM

Ok, lurker here that now feels like the scum of the earth.

I don't know if the code would allow this but I think it would be resonable and help out if there was a personal bandwidth limit daily, or how ever you wanted to divide it up.

I personally am on a 28.8 connection, so I am severly limited by what I can download, maybe 3 or 4 megs a day. Someone with a T1 can easily eat up hundreds of megs a day, and never post a thing.

A person that for the most part just converses back and forth would never reach their limit and users with a certain number of post could be given limit free access.

Another option would just be a plain mandatory donation for EZ access. If every one of those 33,000 people that have less than 10 posts donated just $.25 through paypal, you'd have over $7,500. I'm sure that some would donate more. Why Im sure you dont want to run a pay for porn site, it would pay some of the bills.

Just a few suggestions.

neutone 10-07-2004 08:52 AM

This is unfortunate. A completely understandable situation has been pushed to the point where Admins are gettin ugly. Can't people relax now, hell I know having such an addictive, quality resource being cut can make you desperate but hell, there are enough porn sites out there to tide a person over. This debate is changing TFP from a commonwealth into a monarchy.

garnet 10-07-2004 08:53 AM

ARGGGG........

Bill O'Rights 10-07-2004 08:57 AM

Jumping Jesus Christ on a pogo stick!! I have never seen so many spoiled, selfish, pansy-asses, doing so much bitching about...nothing, before in my life! Where do you guys, that never post a single word beyond "nice tits", get the idea that you have a right to even so much as wimper at the demise of th EZ. Un-freakin'-believable! It was obviously long past time to cull this heard. Sayanara, ya ungrateful leeches.

joebalama 10-07-2004 09:27 AM

Halx
Just wanted to thank you for the site itself. Yes I spent most of my time on the titty board but still love the rest of the boards. I was here the last time the E board was shut down and understand completely.

Also, where can I send a money order to donate?

Joe

Averett 10-07-2004 09:27 AM

Well (and colorfully I might add!) said Bill :D

I like to use Jumped Up Jesus Christ in these situations. It's a classic.

neutone 10-07-2004 09:28 AM

Maybe it's time to kill this topic, it's making everyone jumpy. Mind you, on a very optimistic level, at least we have a fired up exchange rather than a one way stream of tits and bums.

Averett 10-07-2004 09:41 AM

Huh?? Ummm... this ENTIRE forum is a huge exhange! There was just one small corner (filled with a lot of people) wiht the tits and bums.


Besides, this whole fired up exhange is just about tits and bums, isnt it? People need to get over it.

Glory's Sun 10-07-2004 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neutone
Maybe it's time to kill this topic, it's making everyone jumpy. Mind you, on a very optimistic level, at least we have a fired up exchange rather than a one way stream of tits and bums.

if you took a second to actually focus on other area's of the board..you would see that this entire board is a big exchange.. with many different topics

foibles4444 10-07-2004 09:49 AM

Why do I keep getting "Titty Board" update e-mails?
 
If the Erogenous Zone is gone, how come I keep getting daily updates on posts to the "Titty Board"? Anybody else getting those?

Chiuey 10-07-2004 09:55 AM

Halx is right on this one. It has been pretty much that viutually no one in on the other forums. I have never seen more than 20 in the General disscussion. That's really sad. COZ GD should be the main attraction. And there's my 2 cents.

Averett 10-07-2004 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foibles4444
If the Erogenous Zone is gone, how come I keep getting daily updates on posts to the "Titty Board"? Anybody else getting those?

Yup. The Erogenous Zone is open and people are posting.

Just not lurkers who aren't active in other areas of the boards, and who have not earned access.

You've gotta earn it kiddo.

flamingdog 10-07-2004 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterhours2k4
I appreciate the quality response. It makes sense when you really think about it. I hope you don't feel that my post was in anger for I was just curious about the changes. Im not looking to place the blame on anyone because their are greater problems in life than pulling the plug on porn. Im sure that most will agree. Keep us posted on the progress if you will!

The thing is, that response didn't cover anything that isn't in the forum's documentation, which is sticky'd all over this site. If the porn disappears, you should know what happened. I've noticed since the upgrade that zone has been pulling in about ten times the number of users that were in any other area.

If you're not contributing, you're not pulling your weight. That's the way it is around here, and it's just that simple.

neutone 10-07-2004 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neutone
This debate is changing TFP from a commonwealth into a monarchy.

As I said before, THIS DEBATE is turning people into one of two things, either the high and mighty Lords of the manor, or equally unfortunate, the grovelling peasants. I get why the sites down, understand and accept the situation. I am also grateful to those who make it happen. I also think this debate is getting boring and power play is as lame as complaining about not having free porn.

asr_dr 10-07-2004 10:18 AM

email me when adult zone is up and cumming!!!!!!!!!!
 
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :icare: :icare: :crazy:

94Mobsta 10-07-2004 10:20 AM

honestly the forums kick ass. the EZ is great but i mean there other parts are awesome i.e. tilted weapons, and tilted motors. to be honest, i never donated, it isn't because i didn't want to, it was just that it never entered my mind. that may sound greedy but i just never thought about it. something like this needs to be done for those people like me who really don't know what kind of time and money is involved in running a site. and about people bitching about the donations, say you donate some money to a NON profite organization, they utalize your money and use it for a good cause, if they go under from lack of funds, are you going to sue them for your money back? i am assuming not. halx supplied us a great service, and it is about time that us leechers pay for it.

-Eric

Averett 10-07-2004 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asr_dr
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :icare: :icare: :crazy:

Are these guys really over 18? Man :rolleyes:

neutone 10-07-2004 10:23 AM

(lord of the manor)

Averett 10-07-2004 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neutone
(lord of the manor)

Yawn

So basically people are either bitching and crying when they shouldn't, or they're high and mighty? Where do you stand Mr. I Have All of 7 Posts 5 of Which Are Responses To This Thread?

fhqwhgads 10-07-2004 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neutone
(lord of the manor)

So because Averett respects this board enough to defend the mods, and their decisions, she's acting high and mighty? I agree with her....they way these people are acting makes me wonder how old they are too. And if not whining and acting like a spoiled three year old makes me "high and mighty", then so be it... call me what you will.

Averett 10-07-2004 10:39 AM

Oh, and I'd prefer to be Lady of the Manor :D

neutone 10-07-2004 10:42 AM

Averett. I have made no claims, not a beggar, nor a saint. I am empathic to the board's financial situation but will not donate money. I appreciate its existence and understand that there are people who maintain it financially and technically. Good on them, thanks to them. I am a calm observer (in my view) and treacherous leacher (in yours I imagine). I don't mind what you think, I'm going to find a more interesting forum to enjoy. Why don't you stay here and find some people to scorn.

Jonsgirl 10-07-2004 10:46 AM

[soapbox/]
I know I'm not the most frequent poster here (mainly that's job related...it's hard to find reliable internet access in third world countries and war zones), but here's my 2 cents.
I was here for months before I could so much as *look* at the titty boards without violating (again-work related) rules. And guess what? I survived.
I would almost hope that this is a permanent feature. I've noticed that Halx needs to do this every so often, and it does keep the quality of the rest of the forum up.
For everyone who won't didn't see this coming, I say:
IT'S THE FREAKING INTERNET, YOU DO NOT NEED SOMEONE TO SPOON FEED YOU PORN. GOOGLE IT.
For the "lords of the manor," I say: Yay for Halx, the discussion boards, the people who contribute here, and the E-zone!! In that order.

[/end soapbox]

neutone 10-07-2004 10:50 AM

Nicely said.

Glory's Sun 10-07-2004 10:50 AM

What is striking to me is the fact that everyone thinks they have to donate cash. It would be great if they did (I plan to send some money hal's way soon) but as mentioned there are other ways to donate..as in posting responsibly and often... let me repeat.. you can donate by posting in other areas of the board and contributing ideas and thoughts.

pl3x 10-07-2004 11:17 AM

Ok I hope understand ... money is money

SO .... what can we do to have an acces on the EZ board ... ??

I can share U lot of Pics ... share by http or stro serveurs ...

Have Fun

plex

fuddes 10-07-2004 11:26 AM

A logical question:

What point is there in me donating if the erogenous zone is now gone? That's what I visited the site for, and I'm not interested in much else. That's not a rip on the rest of the board, just honesty on my part. I'm not much for online discussions.

The smart way to do this would have been to warn people 10 days ahead of time, set a goal for donations, and see if you got enough to keep the section. But just pulling it out from under everybody is going to get you less donations, if any.

Glory's Sun 10-07-2004 11:43 AM

Quote:

MEMBERSHIP ADVANCEMENT AND FEATURES



Member participation is strongly encouraged and rewarded, though we insist that you make your contribution to the TFP as meaningful as possible. Please do not post frivolously to achieve status. Our economy does not run on post counts.

250 worthwhile posts will earn you a custom avatar. 500 worthwhile posts will earn you a custom title. That's all you can gain by posting in volume.

The TFP has many private forums that are not accessible to new users. They are more private, sensitive and community oriented in nature and so we have a very strict screening process to gain access to them.

After a brief probation period, users are reviewed by our moderators to determine if they are mature enough to participate in the private forums.

Infractions of TFP policy will hinder your review and may indefinately postpone it.
this is how you can access it.. this came from the rules and regulations post in the Newbie section that is a first read must for all new comers.

Quote:

What point is there in me donating if the erogenous zone is now gone
quite simple donate via cash or discussion and you get access to your beloved EZ.

Rekna 10-07-2004 12:06 PM

Comedy Gold!!!

This just made my day.

Those of you who claim this is a porn site your dead wrong. There are many members who come here for the forums not the titty board. Hell I didn't even know about the titty board for the first 3 months I was on this board. Get involved in forums, get known in the community, and don't be a troll. Do this and you will be rewarded.

Hanxter 10-07-2004 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuddes
A logical question:

What point is there in me donating if the erogenous zone is now gone? That's what I visited the site for, and I'm not interested in much else. That's not a rip on the rest of the board, just honesty on my part. I'm not much for online discussions.

The smart way to do this would have been to warn people 10 days ahead of time, set a goal for donations, and see if you got enough to keep the section. But just pulling it out from under everybody is going to get you less donations, if any.

lemme point out that at one time we limited access to what you need to those that did participate in the other forums...

then one day, when they least expected it, HOLY SHIATT, there it was... all the boobage in the world - and mind you, the boobage does not belong to the board, it belongs to those that posted them, their effort goes wildly unappreciated... no thanx or if any at all - "i'd hit hit it"...

it's like your electric meter, every time you hit a thread on the TB the meter starts - for you folks that don't understand, there are 312 pages of pics for the getting - multiply that by a couple hundred lurkers A DAY... the KACHING CHING machine starts rolling - like a gas pump...

text is cheap, context is not


there are 312 pages of boobie pics - do you possibly understand what the bandwidth load is on that when we have to cover the costs

HockeyGuy 10-07-2004 12:24 PM

Halx, jsut wanted to say thanx for the forums! I first came here for the boobies but since then havn't even been there in ages anyways and didn't notice that anything had gone missing. I support ur decision here also. thanx for the community!

Tilk 10-07-2004 12:27 PM

I kinda like not having the EZ, i means my lurking is far more productive and educational, rather than degenerative and mind numbing.

Fibrosa 10-07-2004 02:43 PM

I actually like this place. I don't post a whole lot, but I do read an awful lot of the forums. Not many places have forums for philosophy/knowledge (science) AND paranoia.

SecretMethod70 10-07-2004 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sajones
I think you should make up your mind one way or the other, either crap or get off of the pot. Also the slowness bit confuses me, why can't one section be served off of different servers? Let the porn use its own hardware, let it be slow and not slow down the other sections - you're a web master, try some load balancing.

What sucks about how this was pulled is that it was done without notice, so pardon me if I do not sound terribly pleased - I understand heavy server load but it can be worked around, and if you're going to pull a section at least let the users know.

IF Halx had the physical resources to do that, he probably would. Clearly he does not, hence the need for donations. Explore the board a bit and you'll find - in a very logical and obvious place for most contributors - even more information about the need for money and the kind of hardware it's needed for.

As far as being pulled without notice, if you read the TFP Charter and the rules of TFP, you will find that not only is the porn not a core part of the purpose for the site, it isn't even one of the purposes at all. It is an extra little thing that's nice for people to have, but no one should be here strictly for the porn.

To those who have not contributed anything in time spent outside the EZ or, at least, money. The porn isn't what TFP is about - whether or not that's true for you. If you refuse to contribute time elsewhere on the forum or money, that's fine - go somewhere else for free porn. If you like the things that TFP values - open and respectful communication and all that other stuff mentioned in the charter you were supposed to read when you signed up, then go explore the rest of the forum. Chances are, you'll probably enjoy it.

To those who ARE contributors, thanks for your support. Remember though, everyone has to start somewhere. A lot of you didn't start participating until a time when the EZ was turned off for awhile. So, keep in mind that the person you're talking to may be a lurker today, but they may be a top member a few months from now.

Everyone on both sides should always make their best attempt to be respectful in their discussion.

KellyC 10-07-2004 03:09 PM

Look how simple this is...

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...e=UTF-8&q=Porn

========> "Results 1 - 10 of about 119,000,000 for Porn" <=========

That's A LOT more porn than the E-Z ;)

Tuna911 10-07-2004 03:41 PM

Is yahoo our only way of donating other then snail mail?

Itunn 10-07-2004 03:56 PM

It seems Halx wants money, he knows that addicts will come here and look at porn to get their fix. So take away their fix, they become desperate that they'll do anything to get their fix back, even if it means forking over some dough to support their habit.

Wait a while, Halx will have money flowing into his bank account and will reopen the titty boards again. Next year his beer funds dries out again, closes the titty board, the addicts whips out their credit cards and the process proceeds again until the next year.

Halx is no dummy and he's very smart. He should be doing more business.

This is a very unique forum with EVERYTHING with every subject possible, caters just about every walks of life, including porn addicts, which is his large catagory and most frequent used.

Take a look at it this way, you could operate a "family style" business, like a video store for example, sometimes, some of the business may have a porn section in the back room away from view of the soccer moms. Many may know about it and choose not to get envolved.

Fortunantly, this is the internet, an entirely different setting altogether, but have more freedom to moosey around the porn section w/o the fear of getting busted by someone they know. But the business concept is kinda about the same idea.

I'm kinda poor myself, as I make slightly above the minimum wage, if I could afford to donate I would, but at the same time, I recognize his business practice.

Hang tight guys, it'll reopen soon as these pimpled face geeky guys blows off somewhere else.

SecretMethod70 10-07-2004 04:15 PM

You're right Itunn, you've caught us. This is all a big business ploy to get Halx and the rest of the mods rich. Running this site is cheap, it takes no resources whatsoever. The idea that new server hardware would be necessary to run a site with tens of thousands of users everyday is laughable. I knew we couldn't keep up the facade for much longer...we're caught. we actually get free hardware from the US government so that they can use this site to spy on people and they cover the bandwidth bills as well.



Gimme a break. I'm gonna be honest and say I'm getting a bit sick of the people with their heads up their asses who think it doesn't cost a crapload of money to run this site, let alone get the hardware necessary for it to run smoothly.

enrightfun 10-07-2004 04:15 PM

Ads - Revenue
 
why don't you show search engine results from some of the pay-per-click search engines? You'll get a piece of every click.

It could bring in thousands per week with you amount of traffic.

SecretMethod70 10-07-2004 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enrightfun
why don't you show search engine results from some of the pay-per-click search engines? You'll get a piece of every click.

It could bring in thousands per week with you amount of traffic.

Read the thread before asking questions. This has already been addressed. TFP being ad-free is FAAAR more important than TFP with porn.

pacaveli 10-07-2004 04:20 PM

the porn is just an added bonus to a great forum! without it the forum lives on, but selfish boners do not, o well :rolleyes:

onewolf 10-07-2004 04:35 PM

Boo. Hiss. :p

Rekna 10-07-2004 04:40 PM

Hurray!!!!!! ;)

Halx 10-07-2004 05:17 PM

Itunn, I hope you didn't hurt yourself thinking that up. You obviously have no idea how much it costs to keep this site running month after month and how little I get in monetary compensation. Oh well, just another backseat driver. The internet is irritatingly full of them.

daddio82 10-07-2004 05:45 PM

Being a relative newbie, I was first attracted by the EZ but after visiting and looking at different forums I am hooked on other aspects of tfp. Thanks for opening eyes, mine as well as others....

Ramega 10-07-2004 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights
Jumping Jesus Christ on a pogo stick!! I have never seen so many spoiled, selfish, pansy-asses, doing so much bitching about...nothing, before in my life!

You must not have been around the last time this happened. :D

I just wish there were more posts in the Tilted Motors forum. :( C'mon, I drive a Mustang! Come rag on me!

Halx 10-07-2004 06:05 PM

I want to explain to people that I use the EZ to attract traffic for the specific purpose of converting people into quality contributors for the rest of the board. However, when the traffic becomes more detrimental to the site than it is beneficial, changes are made.

zoltan 10-07-2004 07:54 PM

80% of people logged onto tilted are using the titty board, i dont see why you killed it, twas the best :| i would help donate to get it back if you were going to set a donation that you wanted to put it back and kept count

macmanmike6100 10-07-2004 08:39 PM

This thread makes me sick. Comments like
Quote:

Originally Posted by coash
why would anyone donate; there's traffic only cos it's free

and
Quote:

Originally Posted by Donna Bella
Wow so much for this forum... what else did it have going for it???? I hope it isn't permanent.

are totally uncalled for. Halx puts a huge amount of time into this community--it's not a porn warehouse. Additionally, real members of the forum contribute with advice, kind words, intelligent conversation; to say that "there's traffic only cos it's free" ignores all of this value.

These kinds of comments are completely short-sighted and unappreciative of the efforts of others.

heyal256 10-07-2004 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daddio82
Being a relative newbie, I was first attracted by the EZ but after visiting and looking at different forums I am hooked on other aspects of tfp. Thanks for opening eyes, mine as well as others....

I think taht most/all of the long time members who contribute to this board have basically said the same thing.

"came for the porn, stayed for the discussion"

As has also been mentioned elsewhere, I also barely notice the EZ sections, I usually come for the discussions.

Bliz 10-07-2004 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heyal256
"came for the porn"

:thumbsup:

TheFu 10-07-2004 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanxter
it's like your electric meter, every time you hit a thread on the TB the meter starts - for you folks that don't understand, there are 312 pages of pics for the getting - multiply that by a couple hundred lurkers A DAY... the KACHING CHING machine starts rolling - like a gas pump...

TFP isn't hosting those pics, it is just providing the links. Granted there are alot of links to pics and a lot of pages of links but the real bandwidth usage is of the image hosts and the poor suckers who host on their cable and DSL lines. TFP's problem is the serverload required to serve those 100 users at a time requesting all those pages. You put that many people in any forum, not just the EZ and you'll see the same problem. This was an effective method of solving the problem, I wish I could use it in some of the things I do. :lol:

waltert 10-07-2004 09:57 PM

its funny to see people get up in arms about something they havent paid for. i was headed to look at the new posts there when I discovered it was missing. just leaves more time to post in the other places.

inky 10-07-2004 10:12 PM

The process:
EZ goes up, users come streaming in. A few hang around the other forums as well.

EZ goes down, mass outflux, hanging onto the few that wanted to contribute elsewhere.

Outflux continues, albeit slowly, because outside of the common thread of why folks come here, people would rather find the proper niche, not one guy's shot at a "catch-all" forum. A music forum for music, a politics forum for politics, etc. Folks set in their ways or friendly with folks they've met stay in the core. Everyone else melts off.

Add to the core again by reinstating the EZ.

Rinse repeat.

inky 10-07-2004 10:13 PM

Clarifying: people that come just for the porn aren't just drooling sex fiends. But I'd rather talk about music with people who have common interests (i.e., on other boards), etc etc, not random folks who have nothing in common with me but an appreciation of porn.

waltert 10-07-2004 10:24 PM

I do admit that cars and engines are best discussed in their respective forums, but I think to be able to ask things like sexual advice, etc is invaluable here, as its unlikely that I'll go to the energy dynamics forum and ask how to get my girlfriend off.

dioxin 10-07-2004 10:30 PM

Halx and the other admins :
I think it's derisively to call the visitors of EZ jerking dicks or whatever they where called in the posts before.After all these are visitors of this forum.I hope after 1 year you have not more then 100 visitors a day and you pray for these men.Well now your head is up and you and the mosts of the admins posted something here are haughtily behaving.OK it's your call...Everything comes back someday...

waltert 10-07-2004 10:44 PM

there were alot of people being shitheads about the removal of the zone, which isnt right, especially since most are newbs who havent donated yet (like me) and havent really contributed much of anything to the forum.
I dont think that halx will ever whine and beg for people to come back to the E Zone.
halx doesnt rely on advertisement hits to fund this site, so all a large influx of visitors that arent contributing does nothing but take up space.

im2121 10-07-2004 11:15 PM

As long as tfp is still alive...then its all good...

Halx 10-07-2004 11:31 PM

It's sorta amusing how people like to play the part of the young farmer boy in the prologue of the story where his family gets slaughtered by the dark evil warlord and he swears that one day, justice will be served. Ooookay, young farmer boy. You go on believing that I'm the dark evil warlord and I get my jollies by ruining your day. I'm just trying to run my ideal website. In my ideal website, intelligent words in a discussion are FAR more important than one more user viewing the forums at any given time.

I all ready run a website where hits matter. I also get paid a living wage for it. I don't get paid shit for this site, so you gotta figure that it better damn well fit MY ideal than YOURS. Fortunately, I've managed to find thousands of people who enjoy my ideal. Go figure.

Please stop complaining, the lack of comprehension is getting silly.

coash 10-07-2004 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macmanmike6100
This thread makes me sick. Comments like and are totally uncalled for. Halx puts a huge amount of time into this community--it's not a porn warehouse. Additionally, real members of the forum contribute with advice, kind words, intelligent conversation; to say that "there's traffic only cos it's free" ignores all of this value.

you think there'd be as much traffic in the forums if you had to pay a mandatory fee? esp in the EZ?

whelming1 10-08-2004 12:15 AM

I was cut off in midsearch of the Links board. I guess it was my first electronic coitus interruptus. Zzzzt!
A third donation is forthcoming. It won't take care of the whole financial problem, of course. But if everyone who visits even occasionally sent, oh, say, $5 cash to the address that I intend to send my check to, wouldn't that make a big difference?
There always will be people who truly cannot afford to send any money. That's a given. But is it possible that some don't donate because they don't want to do the PayPal route, don't want to write a check, and have no confidence that this would be a rare exception to the well-regarded (and justifiably so) rule to not send cash in the mail?
You've done a good job -- no, make that outstanding, and I'm not just trying to get on your good side -- with this site since the first time I stumbled across it. The depth and breadth of the site far exceeds what was there just, what, just two years ago? At that time, the Titty Board had few companions on this site, and though the content was very good, the quality of the responses was ... abysmal. "I'd hit it," was, apparently, considered great prose by way too many, uh, contributors. We're way past that, and what a relief.
I have no idea what any of your expenses are, and I'm not asking. But again, it seems plausible that if a healthy fraction of your frequent users contributed something, the financial outlook would improve considerably. That's not the only issue here, I realize. Participation in other forums than the TB is what you're seeking, and that's a darn worthy goal.
Making sure that everyone knows how to donate, and precisely what those methods are, is something to consider. Yes, we've been told before, but some things bear repeating.
Humbly submitted.

Sensei 10-08-2004 01:12 AM

This post made me realize it's been a month since I've looked at the Titty Board. I've mostly been using passes I got from the links board and just use the TFP for non-pr0n discussions. I commend Halx for the fine site and applaud his patience with the moochers.

mightyzog 10-08-2004 04:01 AM

I have been a member for about a month now and this is my first post. I guess I just like reading what other people post more than putting my 2 cents into a discussion but I figured I'll have to start somewhere. I guess by reading some of the posts that I get one question from them, For some all they do is come for the adult forums, what guarantee do they have that if they donate, the boards that where taken away will return? If all I was here for was the link board or the titty board, why would I donate? Because you said they MIGHT come back? The boards they come to see are gone. Threatening to take the boards away probably would have gotten you more donations than telling people who have to trust someone who just took them away, that they will be back(?) See where I'm going with this. I am not trying to tell anyone what they should do witht their site but think about it. You attract more bees with honey than you do with vinager(sp?) If you had warned people before just pulling the plug you might have gotten more donations and you wouldn't have to describe yourself as the evil warlord. Well that was my 2 cents, take it as you please.

Another idea is: If you truly want to get rid of the moochers just give them links to other adult forums to go to. Put it into it's own thread and people could post links to other forums. Just an idea.

dioxin 10-08-2004 04:01 AM

Halx,
I do not want to involve in the order of this site and i can't.But i can say my oppinion and like it or not that is my opinion.I'm noone here and i know it ,but i liked the EZ and i posted alot there (daily) and now i feel bad about it.Try for 2 seconds to understand my behaviour.As i said it's your call.I wish everyone the best...

P.S. I'm sure that everyone of you have taken an eye to these forums but now you are all quite....

itch vaccine 10-08-2004 04:06 AM

Notice this : loads of "Rookies" are responding to this forum..

wonder why? .. >.<

dioxin 10-08-2004 04:09 AM

So what?
cuz you don't like it

trevlya006 10-08-2004 05:41 AM

get on hot or not!!!

j/k

i dont know.. its not like their isn't 10,000 more pron websites out there...

i know a couple that are all archived and have 1000s of pics..

so i am glad to see the EZ go because over the last few days i have noticed the traffic is lighter!

lol maybe you can have some sort of thing like after 1000 posts you get the EZ back but you would have to reset the posts first!

hahahahha!!!!!!11111oneoneone

its a dumb idea!
-trev

Glory's Sun 10-08-2004 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mightyzog
I have been a member for about a month now and this is my first post. I guess I just like reading what other people post more than putting my 2 cents into a discussion but I figured I'll have to start somewhere. I guess by reading some of the posts that I get one question from them, For some all they do is come for the adult forums, what guarantee do they have that if they donate, the boards that where taken away will return? If all I was here for was the link board or the titty board, why would I donate? Because you said they MIGHT come back? The boards they come to see are gone. Threatening to take the boards away probably would have gotten you more donations than telling people who have to trust someone who just took them away, that they will be back(?) See where I'm going with this. I am not trying to tell anyone what they should do witht their site but think about it. You attract more bees with honey than you do with vinager(sp?) If you had warned people before just pulling the plug you might have gotten more donations and you wouldn't have to describe yourself as the evil warlord. Well that was my 2 cents, take it as you please.

Another idea is: If you truly want to get rid of the moochers just give them links to other adult forums to go to. Put it into it's own thread and people could post links to other forums. Just an idea.


*sigh* in case you missed it several people have mentioned that the board is still open to contibutors.. you contribute via discussion then you get your beloved tits back. It's all in the tfp charter. Just like when I first came.. way before the 2nd crash you had to earn your right to view the EZ.. it's like that again now. Quite frankly, I'm glad it's like that. It gave me an opportunity to get involved in the rest of the forum before I even thought about checking the TB. Go to the tilted newbies section read the sticky that Halx has up and you'll see how to advance and such. If you don't want to do that then simply scroll up in this thread and read the 3rd page (think that's right) and you'll see a direct copy of the third section of the charter that talks about advancement.

Averett 10-08-2004 05:50 AM

I didn't realize that if you donated money you become a full member. Is that actually the case?

I've always heard of people trying this, but I didn't think it mattered one bit. Could be wrong though!

Glory's Sun 10-08-2004 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Averett
I didn't realize that if you donated money you become a full member. Is that actually the case?

I've always heard of people trying this, but I didn't think it mattered one bit. Could be wrong though!

I have no idea..

Hanxter 10-08-2004 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Averett
I didn't realize that if you donated money you become a full member. Is that actually the case?

I've always heard of people trying this, but I didn't think it mattered one bit. Could be wrong though!

that's not the case at all... page 1, in case you missed it...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halx
Thanks for everyone's understanding. The main point that I wanted to get across is that there are other ways to earn back your access. We desire meaningful participation above all. Go out into the forums and get involed responsibly. Make sure you read the rules of the forum in the Newbie board first, though. We have a promotion system that is based on performance review. I do guarantee, though, that if you do get approved to gain access to the EZ again, it wont matter to you nearly as much as the rest of the forum.


Averett 10-08-2004 07:04 AM

Okay, just so I'm clear money donated does not equal full board membership?


It's Friday and my mind is on the weekend, I'll use that excuse if I'm coming across as extreemly slow today ;)

fhqwhgads 10-08-2004 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoltan
80% of people logged onto tilted are using the titty board, i dont see why you killed it, twas the best :| i would help donate to get it back if you were going to set a donation that you wanted to put it back and kept count


I still don't understand why people aren't getting this. It isn't about the numbers. I don't want to speak for Hal, but as I understand it, he'd rather have a handful of quality users than hundreds of leeches. The fact that the EZ had hundreds of people visiting it does not mean that it is the core of the site.

Contributors understand this. Why is it that the people that are bitching are people that I've never heard of before?

Averett 10-08-2004 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhqwhgads
Contributors understand this. Why is it that the people that are bitching are people that I've never heard of before?

Cause the blood is flowing to the wrong head?

:D

Bill O'Rights 10-08-2004 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhqwhgads
Why is it that the people that are bitching are people that I've never heard of before?

They are also the ones that you will never hear from again.

Glory's Sun 10-08-2004 09:07 AM

maybe if they put as much energy posting in other areas of the site as they do in this one thread they'd find they could gain access one day hrmm?? novel idea?? or just something stated in the rules that were never read by half of them anyway? :confused: /sarcasm

KinkyKiwi 10-08-2004 09:37 AM

just wanted to say that i adore this site with or without the porn (altho i will miss that soooooooooooooo much). theres a ton of really cool stuff on here and i appreciate all teh hard work that goes into it. i'm still confused about this tho..is the adult zone still up but only for donators? that doesnt make sense because most of teh people posting the great stuff on there werent donating money (altho they were donating time and effortputting pics and links). i don't even have a credit card to donate with altho i'm working on that. what exactly do you have to do to get that back? could it only be the links section? all joking aside that was one of teh reasons that this forum was differnt then others. anyway thanks for all teh hard work you guys put into it :)

novacainex 10-08-2004 10:21 AM

This is a porn site. 80% of its visitors come here looking for porn. Obviously alot of you dont understand that. Yes it has other sections, which ii'm sure are great. But if you dont want it to be a porn site than get rid of the porn permenantly. If you need porn to convicne people to come here than theres obviously a problem. Either keep this a free porn site as it was before, or keep it a forum only. I find it absolutly ridiculous that people here don't realize what it really is.

Halx 10-08-2004 10:26 AM

^ Hmm... Rookie. You sound like a settler who has stumbled upon someone else's land and is now trying to proclaim the land's true calling when you have no clue as to the rich culture that permeates it.

OnlyLonely 10-08-2004 10:34 AM

Hey Halx.. Thanks for all you do and have done.. I happen to be one of us who has not represented well and do love the Forum.. once finances are in order, I will donate just to say thanks for all you have done! see you all soon, will check back when the card is heavier :)

timbuk2 10-08-2004 10:38 AM

Rookie?
 
[QUOTE=BonesCPA]One thing to keep in mind, if you have been a member since 2003 and you are still a rookie, don't expect much sympathy. QUOTE]

I suspect I'll be a "rookie" pretty much forever on this board. I'm just not one to speak volumes about stuff I don't know about. And it doesn't bother me a bit. But I do hope that I am not considered this boards "lower class" because I don't have a decent avatar. :D

Then again, perhaps that's as it should be.

-tb2


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