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Mondak · 05-20-2003, 01:18 PM

FROM ESPN:

Roger Clemens took some time out from looking forward to his 300th victory to look back on the first 13 years of his career -- and look ahead to the Hall of Fame and which team he'll represent. Clemens told The New York Times on May 18 that he wants to enter the Hall of Fame as a Yankee. Clemens earned the first 192 of his 298 victories pitching for the Red Sox, tied with Cy Young for the most in club history. But Clemens said he'd like the Yankees' logo on his Cooperstown plaque, the way Reggie Jackson has it. "It's pretty simple, the way I look at it," Clemens told The Times. "I became a Hall of Famer here, with my numbers here and what I've done here, and hopefully 300 will be another big part of that."

What do you all think? I like Roger as a Yankee in the Hall. He won his Championships there and had some great moments as a Yankee.

HeyAgain · 05-20-2003, 02:32 PM

No way!

He should enter as a Toronto Blue Jays. He won two Cy Young awards while pitching for the Blue Jays.

fearofmear · 05-20-2003, 02:43 PM

He should go in with the Red Sox but there is such bad blood between Clemens and the Red Sox that he won't. What better way to spite Boston then to go in as a Yankee.

Glory's Sun · 05-20-2003, 03:23 PM

Blah, just another great player that Boston let loose.. will it ever stop?!

reconmike · 05-20-2003, 05:17 PM

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What do you all think? I like Roger as a Yankee in the Hall. He won his Championships there and had some great moments as a Yankee.

Besides winning the world series, what are his great moments?

dragon2fire · 05-20-2003, 06:48 PM

i say let him go in with the team he wants to go in as

BulletBob · 05-20-2003, 07:03 PM

He HAS to go in as a Yankee. Clemens just wouldn't look right in the hall as anything else. This is coming from a Sox fan.

paddyjoe · 05-21-2003, 04:02 AM

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Originally posted by dragon2fire
i say let him go in with the team he wants to go in as

Exactly. Can't argue with this.

Artermis · 05-21-2003, 05:58 AM

He will go in as a Red Sox.

The Hall decides what team not the player.

He should go in as a Red Sox bad blood nonstanding. He has played what 4 or 5 years as a Yankee? If the Red Sox had spent as much as George he never would have left the Red Sox in the first place.

When I think of Roger it is as a Red Sox first and foremost. I might be biased because the couple times I met him he was playing as a Sox and all my autographed stuff is with him as a Sox and I need him to go in the hall as a Sox so it is worth more..

Art

Glory's Sun · 05-22-2003, 07:28 AM

Clemens actually said he has no ill feelings towards Boston. I couldn't believe it. He's won more games in Fenway than anywhere else so he should go in as a Red Sox.

BigBlueWrecking · 05-22-2003, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by Artermis
He will go in as a Red Sox.

The Hall decides what team not the player.

He should go in as a Red Sox bad blood nonstanding. He has played what 4 or 5 years as a Yankee? If the Red Sox had spent as much as George he never would have left the Red Sox in the first place.

When I think of Roger it is as a Red Sox first and foremost. I might be biased because the couple times I met him he was playing as a Sox and all my autographed stuff is with him as a Sox and I need him to go in the hall as a Sox so it is worth more..

Art

Not to squable, but you are wrong about that. The player picks the cap. Dave Winfield is rumored to ahve asked the Yanks or Padres for cash to wear their hat. I think they both said no and he chose Padres, but most people know him as a Yankee. Either way, the player decides.

buffto · 05-22-2003, 09:57 PM

Clemens has a serious Ty Cobb complex (being an asshole). But he certainly deserves to be a hall of famer. And it's probably best that he goes in as a *shudder* yankee.

buffto · 05-22-2003, 09:58 PM

wade bogg is going to go in as a devil ray, right?

Artermis · 05-23-2003, 04:23 AM

The Hall has the final say but the player has a huge say in what cap he goes in there as.

Art

Unknown Poster · 05-23-2003, 06:59 AM

I thought I heard that the hall chose, back when there was mini-controversy over whether Gary Carter would go in as an Expo or a Met.

Mondak · 05-23-2003, 10:32 AM

The hall does choose, but one of the factors that they consider heavily is the player's wishes.

Winfield took a job with the Padres which is basically a job for life that is VP of Baseball Opperations. Then he decided to go in as a Pad instead of as a Yankee. The Yankees are not free of sin though. Reggie Jackson got a similar job with the Yankees and then decided to go in as a Yank.

Glory's Sun · 05-23-2003, 05:40 PM

I thought this article was right on point. Here's the link:http://espn.go.com/mlb/columns/stark...n/1558238.html

Mondak · 05-24-2003, 07:31 AM

That is a good article. He is right about some things, but I guess it will be a wait and see situation.

Glory's Sun · 05-26-2003, 02:26 PM

Clemens didn't get his 300th win today. I was a little disappointed but happy at the same time. I don't want 300 to come against the Red Sox. Hopefully he'll skip over detroit and do it against the cubbies..that would be great. I still say that Clemens should go in as a Red Sox. He has done so much while he was there. Hell while he was there he won 192 games, and threw 20 strikeouts twice. He was the first to do that. 3 Cy Young awards and countless strikeouts. All he needed was the ring.

05-20-2003, 01:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	Roger Clemens: Hall of Famer, New York Yankee FROM ESPN: Roger Clemens took some time out from looking forward to his 300th victory to look back on the first 13 years of his career -- and look ahead to the Hall of Fame and which team he'll represent. Clemens told The New York Times on May 18 that he wants to enter the Hall of Fame as a Yankee. Clemens earned the first 192 of his 298 victories pitching for the Red Sox, tied with Cy Young for the most in club history. But Clemens said he'd like the Yankees' logo on his Cooperstown plaque, the way Reggie Jackson has it. "It's pretty simple, the way I look at it," Clemens told The Times. "I became a Hall of Famer here, with my numbers here and what I've done here, and hopefully 300 will be another big part of that." What do you all think? I like Roger as a Yankee in the Hall. He won his Championships there and had some great moments as a Yankee.

05-23-2003, 10:32 AM	#16 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	The hall does choose, but one of the factors that they consider heavily is the player's wishes. Winfield took a job with the Padres which is basically a job for life that is VP of Baseball Opperations. Then he decided to go in as a Pad instead of as a Yankee. The Yankees are not free of sin though. Reggie Jackson got a similar job with the Yankees and then decided to go in as a Yank. __________________ All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed Second, it is violently opposed and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER (1788-1860)

05-24-2003, 07:31 AM	#18 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	That is a good article. He is right about some things, but I guess it will be a wait and see situation. __________________ All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed Second, it is violently opposed and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER (1788-1860)

05-20-2003, 02:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
HeyAgain Psycho	No way! He should enter as a Toronto Blue Jays. He won two Cy Young awards while pitching for the Blue Jays.

05-20-2003, 02:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
fearofmear Insane Location: Florida	He should go in with the Red Sox but there is such bad blood between Clemens and the Red Sox that he won't. What better way to spite Boston then to go in as a Yankee.

05-20-2003, 03:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	Blah, just another great player that Boston let loose.. will it ever stop?!

05-20-2003, 06:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
dragon2fire Junkie	i say let him go in with the team he wants to go in as

05-20-2003, 07:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
BulletBob Psycho Location: Rupp Arena	He HAS to go in as a Yankee. Clemens just wouldn't look right in the hall as anything else. This is coming from a Sox fan.

05-21-2003, 05:58 AM	#9 (permalink)
Artermis Insane Location: I live where all the morons live	He will go in as a Red Sox. The Hall decides what team not the player. He should go in as a Red Sox bad blood nonstanding. He has played what 4 or 5 years as a Yankee? If the Red Sox had spent as much as George he never would have left the Red Sox in the first place. When I think of Roger it is as a Red Sox first and foremost. I might be biased because the couple times I met him he was playing as a Sox and all my autographed stuff is with him as a Sox and I need him to go in the hall as a Sox so it is worth more.. Art

05-22-2003, 07:28 AM	#10 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	Clemens actually said he has no ill feelings towards Boston. I couldn't believe it. He's won more games in Fenway than anywhere else so he should go in as a Red Sox.

05-22-2003, 09:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
buffto Crazy Location: Missouri	Clemens has a serious Ty Cobb complex (being an asshole). But he certainly deserves to be a hall of famer. And it's probably best that he goes in as a shudder yankee.

05-22-2003, 09:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
buffto Crazy Location: Missouri	wade bogg is going to go in as a devil ray, right?

05-23-2003, 04:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
Artermis Insane Location: I live where all the morons live	The Hall has the final say but the player has a huge say in what cap he goes in there as. Art

05-23-2003, 06:59 AM	#15 (permalink)
Unknown Poster Insane	I thought I heard that the hall chose, back when there was mini-controversy over whether Gary Carter would go in as an Expo or a Met.

05-23-2003, 05:40 PM	#17 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	I thought this article was right on point. Here's the link:http://espn.go.com/mlb/columns/stark...n/1558238.html

05-26-2003, 02:26 PM	#19 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	Clemens didn't get his 300th win today. I was a little disappointed but happy at the same time. I don't want 300 to come against the Red Sox. Hopefully he'll skip over detroit and do it against the cubbies..that would be great. I still say that Clemens should go in as a Red Sox. He has done so much while he was there. Hell while he was there he won 192 games, and threw 20 strikeouts twice. He was the first to do that. 3 Cy Young awards and countless strikeouts. All he needed was the ring.