Bertuzzi punishment ???? (NHL) - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Go_AVS · 03-08-2004, 10:16 PM

I know I am biased but I think Todd Bertuzzi should have criminal changes pressed against him for the dirtiest hit I have ever seen in hockey (with the possible exeption of the stick to head shot a few years ago in a game also in Vancouver). Cheap ass hits with the intent to injure a player have no place in hockey. Hockey needs to clean up its image to survive, there is no big TV contracts because most people think it a barbaric sport.

I love a good clean hit but when there is a "bounty" placed on an opponents head then they go through with it the the classless way they did, then the player should be kicked out of the fucking league....

My vote is in. Todd Bertuzzi should not be allowed to play another minute of hockey this year. His cheap shot on Steve Moore should have just earned the POS a lifetime ban as well...

It's kind of like prosecuting Martha Stewart, she probably really doesn't deserve jail but she is heading there as an example. So I think you have to make an example of a superstar like Bertuzzi. Show the players that shit like dirty hits willl not be tolerated.....

Maybe then the league will find the fan base it is searching for...

tehblaed · 03-08-2004, 10:19 PM

In order to make judgement I must see a video clip complete with slo-mo action replay and multiple camera angles.

God damn I love being American.

Radio Monk33 · 03-08-2004, 10:20 PM

Well, that was certainly a disgusting game...I mean it was just ugly.

Sorry about Steve Moore as well. He certainly didn't deserve it...I never thought his hit was that dirty.

But criminal charges? Surely you jest...how is a sucker punch any worse than high sticking or getting a cross check to the face? It's a physical game, and emotions are high when you're getting stomped 9-2.

My prediction, 10 games suspension...but even up to 12 would be fair.

tehblaed · 03-08-2004, 10:22 PM

In a slightly related string of events, I googled Todd Bertuzzi and found this humorous musical video. http://www.heavyeric.com/todd_bertuzzi_video.htm

bigbad · 03-08-2004, 10:28 PM

Even though we were losing so badly, I was totally enjoying the game up to that point. As much as I wanted someone to get revenge on him for what he did to our captain, absolutely nobody wanted to see something like that. I heard Granato's interview after the game and he said he was conscious, was so glad to hear that I really hope that the guy is ok. I don't think criminal charges are called for, a LARGE fine and a good length suspension for sure, despite how much it'll hurt our team, stuff like this has no place in hockey and he really should be punished.

Go_AVS · 03-08-2004, 10:36 PM

I like all the feeback. I know there would be no criminal charges, nor would I want there to be, but it got your attention....

Bounty on Bertuzzi anyone???

Go_AVS · 03-08-2004, 10:37 PM

only kidding about the new bounty on Bertuzzi...

bigbad · 03-08-2004, 10:39 PM

LOL I'm reading another Canucks board and a whole bunch of Av's fans are there talking about how much of a pussy he is for doing it now instead of last game when Av's could've retaliated tonight. While it was a pussy thing to do, I don't agree with them on that as last game pulling something like that would've affected the score and cost us a point, tonight, well, there was no hope after the first.

Go_AVS · 03-08-2004, 10:46 PM

I do agree the way he did it was classless, and that he acted like a pussy. I don't think I would ever call him a pussy to his face, he is a big man. There was a legit fight with Moore earlier in the game and that should have been the end of it.

If any of the Canuck player watched the replay when Moore injured Naslund, I guess they did not want to agree with anyone without bias that it was a clean hit. There was no need for a bounty...

bigbad · 03-08-2004, 10:55 PM

I don't really think there was a bounty, most of the night we were going after your star players a bit harsh, but nothing too bad, it was like it should be. The star players then bitch to the other guys not to pull shit, and everyone is happy. Bertuzzi's punch was all on its own really, totally ruined what was turning out to be a really entertaining game.

TheShadow · 03-08-2004, 10:56 PM

Steve Moore had multiple chances to fight cleanly, and refused throughout the game. It was coming in a way. Not to the point of what happened - Bertuzzi didn't mean for that to happen, obviously. But, punishment was due, though I agree that it was quite unfortunate (what happened). Honestly, I felt sick seeing him on the floor and hope he isn't seriously injured.

As well, you can't exactly call Moore's [unpunished] elbow into Naslund's face clean. Personally, I don't think there should be any suspension.

PS Av's fans, don't gloat - the Canucks had a bad game, possibly due to impending trades [good luck...], management issues, and a general lack of energy. Anyways, you guys were just stepped on by Calgary, so you know what a bad game is.

bigbad · 03-08-2004, 10:57 PM

Moore fought Cooke earlier in the game Shadowz. And the hit on Nazzy was cheap but clean, there's no refuting that.

EDIT: And the MAJOR factor in the loss was Cloutier letting in 4 goals on 10 shots. Proved Silent_Jay's useless opinions on him totally wrong. I SOOOOOO hope we get Kolzig,

TheShadow · 03-08-2004, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigbad
Moore fought Cooke earlier in the game Shadowz. And the hit on Nazzy was cheap but clean, there's no refuting that.

He didn't even have full control of the puck when Moore glided up to him, and pulled an elbow into his face.

bigbad · 03-08-2004, 11:03 PM

He had his head down, I've seen tons of similar hits over the years that no one called foul on, if Nazzy hadn't have hit his head on the ice it would've been just another hit. It was a cheap thing to do, nothing dirty about it though.

Go_AVS · 03-08-2004, 11:04 PM

I'm glad the Canucks have at least one good fan in "bigbad" cause if all the Canuck fans were pure homers like "Shadowz" with comments like that, then I would actually feel sorry for the Canucks...

Hey Shadowz, I think Nascar is calling your name...

bigbad · 03-08-2004, 11:08 PM

WTF is Nascar? Don't think we get that in Canada

Go_AVS · 03-08-2004, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigbad
WTF is Nascar? Don't think we get that in Canada

your lucky...

bigbad · 03-08-2004, 11:20 PM

I'm kidding hehe, I just don't know anyone who actually watches it up here though. Let's watch a car go in circles really really fast! Over and over! That's going offtopic though, I love all the Av's fans now bitching about Crawford all over the place. I think he handled the whole situation quite well.

Another thing I was totally glad of was that the Canucks fans cheered Moore off the ice. I thought it totally lacked class when we booed Chelios after he got hurt a couple games ago. I was really praying that people would show the guy some respect and not drag our poor city's name through the mud even more.

Go_AVS · 03-08-2004, 11:24 PM

my battery is dead, I'll check back here in the morn and see if there are any other opinions...

later

exponent_doobie · 03-08-2004, 11:33 PM

I was there at the game and I can tell you that it was pretty freaking scary seeing the blood on the ice with him not even moving. Bertuzzi definately needs to be punished to the fullest extent for it. I don't know about criminal charges though, but with people always freaking about everything nowadays I wouldn't be surprised.

There's no need for that kind of shit in the game. If you want to scrap drop your gloves in front of the guy or something. Bertuzzi is an emotional player, but he needs a huge wake-up call for going overboard.

He better give Moore an apology in person or over the phone...

bigbad · 03-08-2004, 11:38 PM

Bertuzzi did try to drop the gloves exponent, Moore just skated away, and Bertuzzi took a swing from behind.

bigbad · 03-09-2004, 12:52 AM

Worrell vs May

Moore vs Cooke

Blake vs Ruutu

Worrell vs May Round 2

Bertuzzi's cheap ass sucker punch

Your welcome all

Spartak · 03-09-2004, 01:51 AM

I <3 hockey-fights.com

fatboss · 03-09-2004, 02:29 AM

I hate to be a party-pooper, but that just looks stupid to me.

Not the Bertuzzi punch, but the way it appears to be an accepted part of the game.
The way the officials stand back and watch.
The way the crowd cheer every punch.
The way the players are punching other players who have helmets on.

But who can stop it? There are so many influences, it would take a strong sporting body to stop it completely.

Tempboy · 03-09-2004, 05:06 AM

Bertuzzi is an idiot.
He should get the same 1-year suspension that Marty McSorley got.

Go_AVS · 03-09-2004, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigbad
Bertuzzi did try to drop the gloves exponent, Moore just skated away, and Bertuzzi took a swing from behind.

I think I recall seeing his glove on his hand while he cheap shotted Moore. Moore did try to skate away, he already had one fight and if the score was not 8-2 AVS at the time then it might have been over with. Bertuzzi needs a minimum suspension of the rest of the season, including the playoffs.

I was looking at the schedule and what a coincidence, there are no more games this year between the AVS & Canucks. Bertuzzi is a pussy.

One good thing should come out of this for AVS fans, Bertuzzi's classless act should al but gaurantee the AVS 10th straight divsion title....

feelgood · 03-09-2004, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Go_AVS
One good thing should come out of this for AVS fans, Bertuzzi's classless act should al but gaurantee the AVS 10th straight divsion title....

Vancouver still has a chance to catch up on the Avs..

After seeing both the Moore hit on Naslund and Bertuzzi hit on Moore, I'd say both players were stupid. How would you feel if a buddy of yours got a cheap hit from your rival team? Pretty pissed eh? But considering that mangitude of the hit on Moore, Bertuzzi was stupid enough to do something like that, especially for a veteran player like him...

I can understand Avs' coach reaction to Marc, after all he was smirking.

Oh yeah, don't forget yall Avs fan...Flames whooped your ass the night before 7-1, so don't be using this incident to hide your shame from that game :P

Begun, the flame war has...

/Flames fan

Go_AVS · 03-09-2004, 10:36 AM

just heard Moore has a broken neck and/or a broken vertabrae in his back, I pray to God it is only a rumor. If Moore is truly that hurt I only hope his gets better.

Bertuzzi better also be praying that it is not true, if it is, he is going to be one poor mother fucker with no job.

I know I was joking earlier about criminal charges but if the rumors about Moore's condition are true, then Bert should be locked up.

What a piece of shit!!!

Hanxter · 03-09-2004, 11:05 AM

McSorley - Brashear was a stick incedent
a sucker punch is a sucker punch but i find Moore to be in the same ranks of another turtle, "Clod" Lemieux, a chicken shit pissant that can't take a shot

as of 2:00 pm est - moore is in surgery for a cracked vert

Quadraton · 03-09-2004, 12:19 PM

Police investigate Bertuzzi for hit on Moore

Looks like the portent is true, and Bertuzzi is going to have a little heat on him for a while.

essendoubleop · 03-09-2004, 12:50 PM

I'm a Canucks fan and I was very disgusted at Bertuzzi, who is my favorite player, when he did that. I'm sure it was part of the heat-of-the-action kind of thing only further fueled by the huge deficit they were facing at the time, but come on, your teammate nearly DIED a couple years ago in a similar incident. I don't think he should be suspended the whole season, but certainly 10 games.

the_marq · 03-09-2004, 02:27 PM

Being a Senators fan living in Calgary, I'd like to think of myself as being somewhat neutral on the whole Vancouver thing. I should also point out that I have not see video of the event in question yet.

Nevertheless, I have an opinion (!).

Bertuzzi should be booted for the regular season and the playoffs. Someone metioned earlier that is what happened to McSorley when he clubber Brashear, so the precident has been set. To be honest, I think he should be banned from the NHL for good for this type of thuggery, but I know that will never happen.

Nikilidstrom · 03-09-2004, 03:06 PM

Well, I hate both the Avs and the Canucks, so I am definitely impartial. The hit Moore thru on Nas was definitely set up, but it was clean, in my opinion. The sucker punch Bertuzzi thru on Moore was one of the cheapest shots I have ever seen in hockey. If the guy isn't mad enough to stay and fight you, than either you didnt do your job to get him rialed up enough, or he is too smart to fall for your BS. I agree totally with a 1 year suspension being his punishment, but if they didn't permenantly ban McSorley, they can't do that to Todd. But knowing the past calls of the league commission, they will probably fuck this up like they do everything else.

And as far as hockey fights in general, they are a necessary, and fairly entertaining part of the game. Much more often then not, a fight prevents injuries like this from happening if the refs allow the fight to come to an end naturally, rather than breaking it up. Often a 1 on 1 fight can releave the frustration of an entire team, stopping further scrums and intents to injure like this. If fighting was removed from the game, injuries like this would become common place in the NHL.

Kaos · 03-09-2004, 03:25 PM

It's a good thing Vancouver picked up Rucinsky because Bertuzzi isn't going to be playing any hockey for the rest of this year. He's going to miss the playoffs as well.

edmos1 · 03-09-2004, 03:36 PM

I think suspend him for as long as Morre is out +10 games. If Morre ever plays again, Bertuzzi will be lucky.

any other sites that have the video?

bigbad · 03-09-2004, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Go_AVS
I think I recall seeing his glove on his hand while he cheap shotted Moore. Moore did try to skate away, he already had one fight and if the score was not 8-2 AVS at the time then it might have been over with. Bertuzzi needs a minimum suspension of the rest of the season, including the playoffs.

He TRIED to have a real fight, Moore pussed out though, so he didn't have a chance for the gloves to come off. Moore turned his back on him, totally disrespecting him, and Bertuzzi took a cheap swing at him from behind. Not that I am saying what he did was right, I totally think it was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in hockey, but if Moore would've taken the challenge we wouldn't be worrying about this right now.

Quote:

I was looking at the schedule and what a coincidence, there are no more games this year between the AVS & Canucks. Bertuzzi is a pussy.

It was a pussy thing to do because Moore didn't have a chance, I don't think the timing has any relevance though. Had the previous game been a 9-2 blowout it would have had an equal chance of happening. Even if it wasn't the last meeting, Bertuzzi will most likely be suspended for the rest of the season, so Avs wouldn't have a chance at him anyways, right?

Ace_O_Spades · 03-09-2004, 05:04 PM

Here's a few things im sick of surrounding this situation:

1) There is NO FUCKING WAY Bertuzzi's punch cracked two vertebrae in Moore's body... It was probably from the several Avalance players piling on top of Bertuzzi while he was on top of Moore

2) There shouldn't be criminal charges under any circumstances... It was a sucker PUNCH... not a freakin stick... If he gets charged, its official that hands are weapons and they might as well just throw fighting out of hockey.

3) Moore should have fought Bertuzzi straight up... but he pussied out... and I know Bertuzzi SHOULD NOT have hit him from behind, however it could have been resolved like men... It wasnt

My prediction:

10-15 Games, stiff fine

And i pray Moore will be able to play again to his fullest extent...

Hopefully he'll take his lumps like a man in the first place instead of running away next time

bigbad · 03-09-2004, 05:13 PM

Bertuzzi's punch likely didn't break his vertebrae, look at the way he fell though, Bertuzzi KNOCKED HIM OUT COLD and he couldn't put his hands up to brace himself. I think it was hitting the ice like that that did the actual damage.

Ace_O_Spades · 03-09-2004, 05:19 PM

Therefore:

Should be treated as any other on ice injury resulting from a hit...

Let's not overly penalize someone for an ACCIDENTAL injury... I guess it remains to be seen how remorseful Bertuzzi is... I dont think he should be penalized any more than someone would for a dirty cross check from behind

TheShadow · 03-09-2004, 05:26 PM

It's already been reported that he's feeling awful about the injury that occured. Personally, I don't see why an obviously accidental result has to be taken so harshly. At this point, I can see a 5-10 game suspension making sense. Anything else is just overkill.

03-08-2004, 10:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Go_AVS CSU RAM fan Location: Hockey time....	Bertuzzi punishment ???? (NHL) I know I am biased but I think Todd Bertuzzi should have criminal changes pressed against him for the dirtiest hit I have ever seen in hockey (with the possible exeption of the stick to head shot a few years ago in a game also in Vancouver). Cheap ass hits with the intent to injure a player have no place in hockey. Hockey needs to clean up its image to survive, there is no big TV contracts because most people think it a barbaric sport. I love a good clean hit but when there is a "bounty" placed on an opponents head then they go through with it the the classless way they did, then the player should be kicked out of the fucking league.... My vote is in. Todd Bertuzzi should not be allowed to play another minute of hockey this year. His cheap shot on Steve Moore should have just earned the POS a lifetime ban as well... It's kind of like prosecuting Martha Stewart, she probably really doesn't deserve jail but she is heading there as an example. So I think you have to make an example of a superstar like Bertuzzi. Show the players that shit like dirty hits willl not be tolerated..... Maybe then the league will find the fan base it is searching for... __________________ MIA...

03-08-2004, 10:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
Radio Monk33 Psycho	Well, that was certainly a disgusting game...I mean it was just ugly. Sorry about Steve Moore as well. He certainly didn't deserve it...I never thought his hit was that dirty. But criminal charges? Surely you jest...how is a sucker punch any worse than high sticking or getting a cross check to the face? It's a physical game, and emotions are high when you're getting stomped 9-2. My prediction, 10 games suspension...but even up to 12 would be fair. __________________ "Punk rock had this cool, political personal message. It was a bit more cerebral than just stupid cock rock, you know" -Kurt Cobain

03-08-2004, 10:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
Go_AVS CSU RAM fan Location: Hockey time....	I like all the feeback. I know there would be no criminal charges, nor would I want there to be, but it got your attention.... Bounty on Bertuzzi anyone??? __________________ MIA...

03-08-2004, 10:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
Go_AVS CSU RAM fan Location: Hockey time....	only kidding about the new bounty on Bertuzzi... __________________ MIA...

03-08-2004, 10:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
Go_AVS CSU RAM fan Location: Hockey time....	I do agree the way he did it was classless, and that he acted like a pussy. I don't think I would ever call him a pussy to his face, he is a big man. There was a legit fight with Moore earlier in the game and that should have been the end of it. If any of the Canuck player watched the replay when Moore injured Naslund, I guess they did not want to agree with anyone without bias that it was a clean hit. There was no need for a bounty... __________________ MIA...

03-08-2004, 10:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
tehblaed Insane Location: land of the merry	In order to make judgement I must see a video clip complete with slo-mo action replay and multiple camera angles. God damn I love being American.

03-08-2004, 10:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
tehblaed Insane Location: land of the merry	In a slightly related string of events, I googled Todd Bertuzzi and found this humorous musical video. http://www.heavyeric.com/todd_bertuzzi_video.htm

03-08-2004, 10:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
bigbad Insane	Even though we were losing so badly, I was totally enjoying the game up to that point. As much as I wanted someone to get revenge on him for what he did to our captain, absolutely nobody wanted to see something like that. I heard Granato's interview after the game and he said he was conscious, was so glad to hear that I really hope that the guy is ok. I don't think criminal charges are called for, a LARGE fine and a good length suspension for sure, despite how much it'll hurt our team, stuff like this has no place in hockey and he really should be punished.

03-08-2004, 10:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
bigbad Insane	LOL I'm reading another Canucks board and a whole bunch of Av's fans are there talking about how much of a pussy he is for doing it now instead of last game when Av's could've retaliated tonight. While it was a pussy thing to do, I don't agree with them on that as last game pulling something like that would've affected the score and cost us a point, tonight, well, there was no hope after the first.

03-08-2004, 10:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
bigbad Insane	I don't really think there was a bounty, most of the night we were going after your star players a bit harsh, but nothing too bad, it was like it should be. The star players then bitch to the other guys not to pull shit, and everyone is happy. Bertuzzi's punch was all on its own really, totally ruined what was turning out to be a really entertaining game.

03-08-2004, 10:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
TheShadow Crazy Location: Vancouver, Canada	Steve Moore had multiple chances to fight cleanly, and refused throughout the game. It was coming in a way. Not to the point of what happened - Bertuzzi didn't mean for that to happen, obviously. But, punishment was due, though I agree that it was quite unfortunate (what happened). Honestly, I felt sick seeing him on the floor and hope he isn't seriously injured. As well, you can't exactly call Moore's [unpunished] elbow into Naslund's face clean. Personally, I don't think there should be any suspension. PS Av's fans, don't gloat - the Canucks had a bad game, possibly due to impending trades [good luck...], management issues, and a general lack of energy. Anyways, you guys were just stepped on by Calgary, so you know what a bad game is. __________________ You know that song that goes like...

03-08-2004, 10:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
bigbad Insane	Moore fought Cooke earlier in the game Shadowz. And the hit on Nazzy was cheap but clean, there's no refuting that. EDIT: And the MAJOR factor in the loss was Cloutier letting in 4 goals on 10 shots. Proved Silent_Jay's useless opinions on him totally wrong. I SOOOOOO hope we get Kolzig, Last edited by bigbad; 03-08-2004 at 11:00 PM..

03-08-2004, 11:03 PM	#14 (permalink)
bigbad Insane	He had his head down, I've seen tons of similar hits over the years that no one called foul on, if Nazzy hadn't have hit his head on the ice it would've been just another hit. It was a cheap thing to do, nothing dirty about it though.

03-08-2004, 11:04 PM	#15 (permalink)
Go_AVS CSU RAM fan Location: Hockey time....	I'm glad the Canucks have at least one good fan in "bigbad" cause if all the Canuck fans were pure homers like "Shadowz" with comments like that, then I would actually feel sorry for the Canucks... Hey Shadowz, I think Nascar is calling your name... __________________ MIA...

03-08-2004, 11:08 PM	#16 (permalink)
bigbad Insane	WTF is Nascar? Don't think we get that in Canada

03-09-2004, 01:51 AM	#23 (permalink)
Spartak Bang bang Location: New Zealand	I <3 hockey-fights.com __________________ I can read your mind... looking at you... I can read your mind...

03-08-2004, 11:20 PM	#18 (permalink)
bigbad Insane	I'm kidding hehe, I just don't know anyone who actually watches it up here though. Let's watch a car go in circles really really fast! Over and over! That's going offtopic though, I love all the Av's fans now bitching about Crawford all over the place. I think he handled the whole situation quite well. Another thing I was totally glad of was that the Canucks fans cheered Moore off the ice. I thought it totally lacked class when we booed Chelios after he got hurt a couple games ago. I was really praying that people would show the guy some respect and not drag our poor city's name through the mud even more.

03-08-2004, 11:24 PM	#19 (permalink)
Go_AVS CSU RAM fan Location: Hockey time....	my battery is dead, I'll check back here in the morn and see if there are any other opinions... later __________________ MIA...

03-08-2004, 11:33 PM	#20 (permalink)
exponent_doobie Tilted	I was there at the game and I can tell you that it was pretty freaking scary seeing the blood on the ice with him not even moving. Bertuzzi definately needs to be punished to the fullest extent for it. I don't know about criminal charges though, but with people always freaking about everything nowadays I wouldn't be surprised. There's no need for that kind of shit in the game. If you want to scrap drop your gloves in front of the guy or something. Bertuzzi is an emotional player, but he needs a huge wake-up call for going overboard. He better give Moore an apology in person or over the phone...

03-08-2004, 11:38 PM	#21 (permalink)
bigbad Insane	Bertuzzi did try to drop the gloves exponent, Moore just skated away, and Bertuzzi took a swing from behind.

03-09-2004, 12:52 AM	#22 (permalink)
bigbad Insane	Worrell vs May Moore vs Cooke Blake vs Ruutu Worrell vs May Round 2 Bertuzzi's cheap ass sucker punch Your welcome all

03-09-2004, 02:29 AM	#24 (permalink)
fatboss Addict Location: Liverpool, UK	I hate to be a party-pooper, but that just looks stupid to me. Not the Bertuzzi punch, but the way it appears to be an accepted part of the game. The way the officials stand back and watch. The way the crowd cheer every punch. The way the players are punching other players who have helmets on. But who can stop it? There are so many influences, it would take a strong sporting body to stop it completely. __________________ "never mind that shit........here comes Mongo!"

03-09-2004, 05:06 AM	#25 (permalink)
Tempboy Insane Location: The Red Mile	Bertuzzi is an idiot. He should get the same 1-year suspension that Marty McSorley got.

03-09-2004, 10:36 AM	#28 (permalink)
Go_AVS CSU RAM fan Location: Hockey time....	just heard Moore has a broken neck and/or a broken vertabrae in his back, I pray to God it is only a rumor. If Moore is truly that hurt I only hope his gets better. Bertuzzi better also be praying that it is not true, if it is, he is going to be one poor mother fucker with no job. I know I was joking earlier about criminal charges but if the rumors about Moore's condition are true, then Bert should be locked up. What a piece of shit!!! __________________ MIA...

03-09-2004, 11:05 AM	#29 (permalink)
Hanxter The Griffin	McSorley - Brashear was a stick incedent a sucker punch is a sucker punch but i find Moore to be in the same ranks of another turtle, "Clod" Lemieux, a chicken shit pissant that can't take a shot as of 2:00 pm est - moore is in surgery for a cracked vert

03-09-2004, 12:19 PM	#30 (permalink)
Quadraton Addict Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada	Police investigate Bertuzzi for hit on Moore Looks like the portent is true, and Bertuzzi is going to have a little heat on him for a while. __________________ "A witty saying proves nothing" - Voltaire Last edited by Quadraton; 03-09-2004 at 12:37 PM..

03-09-2004, 12:50 PM	#31 (permalink)
essendoubleop Psycho	I'm a Canucks fan and I was very disgusted at Bertuzzi, who is my favorite player, when he did that. I'm sure it was part of the heat-of-the-action kind of thing only further fueled by the huge deficit they were facing at the time, but come on, your teammate nearly DIED a couple years ago in a similar incident. I don't think he should be suspended the whole season, but certainly 10 games.

03-09-2004, 02:27 PM	#32 (permalink)
the_marq All hail the Mountain King Location: Black Mesa	Being a Senators fan living in Calgary, I'd like to think of myself as being somewhat neutral on the whole Vancouver thing. I should also point out that I have not see video of the event in question yet. Nevertheless, I have an opinion (!). Bertuzzi should be booted for the regular season and the playoffs. Someone metioned earlier that is what happened to McSorley when he clubber Brashear, so the precident has been set. To be honest, I think he should be banned from the NHL for good for this type of thuggery, but I know that will never happen. __________________ The Truth: Johnny Cash could have kicked Bruce Lee's ass if he wanted to. #3 in a series

03-09-2004, 03:06 PM	#33 (permalink)
Nikilidstrom Stick it in your five hole! Location: Michigan, USA	Well, I hate both the Avs and the Canucks, so I am definitely impartial. The hit Moore thru on Nas was definitely set up, but it was clean, in my opinion. The sucker punch Bertuzzi thru on Moore was one of the cheapest shots I have ever seen in hockey. If the guy isn't mad enough to stay and fight you, than either you didnt do your job to get him rialed up enough, or he is too smart to fall for your BS. I agree totally with a 1 year suspension being his punishment, but if they didn't permenantly ban McSorley, they can't do that to Todd. But knowing the past calls of the league commission, they will probably fuck this up like they do everything else. And as far as hockey fights in general, they are a necessary, and fairly entertaining part of the game. Much more often then not, a fight prevents injuries like this from happening if the refs allow the fight to come to an end naturally, rather than breaking it up. Often a 1 on 1 fight can releave the frustration of an entire team, stopping further scrums and intents to injure like this. If fighting was removed from the game, injuries like this would become common place in the NHL.

03-09-2004, 03:25 PM	#34 (permalink)
Kaos Ssssssssss Location: Ontario	It's a good thing Vancouver picked up Rucinsky because Bertuzzi isn't going to be playing any hockey for the rest of this year. He's going to miss the playoffs as well.

03-09-2004, 03:36 PM	#35 (permalink)
edmos1 Daddy Location: Right next door to Hell	I think suspend him for as long as Morre is out +10 games. If Morre ever plays again, Bertuzzi will be lucky. any other sites that have the video?

03-09-2004, 05:04 PM	#37 (permalink)
Ace_O_Spades The Death Card Location: EH!?!?	Here's a few things im sick of surrounding this situation: 1) There is NO FUCKING WAY Bertuzzi's punch cracked two vertebrae in Moore's body... It was probably from the several Avalance players piling on top of Bertuzzi while he was on top of Moore 2) There shouldn't be criminal charges under any circumstances... It was a sucker PUNCH... not a freakin stick... If he gets charged, its official that hands are weapons and they might as well just throw fighting out of hockey. 3) Moore should have fought Bertuzzi straight up... but he pussied out... and I know Bertuzzi SHOULD NOT have hit him from behind, however it could have been resolved like men... It wasnt My prediction: 10-15 Games, stiff fine And i pray Moore will be able to play again to his fullest extent... Hopefully he'll take his lumps like a man in the first place instead of running away next time __________________ Feh.

03-09-2004, 05:13 PM	#38 (permalink)
bigbad Insane	Bertuzzi's punch likely didn't break his vertebrae, look at the way he fell though, Bertuzzi KNOCKED HIM OUT COLD and he couldn't put his hands up to brace himself. I think it was hitting the ice like that that did the actual damage.

03-09-2004, 05:19 PM	#39 (permalink)
Ace_O_Spades The Death Card Location: EH!?!?	Therefore: Should be treated as any other on ice injury resulting from a hit... Let's not overly penalize someone for an ACCIDENTAL injury... I guess it remains to be seen how remorseful Bertuzzi is... I dont think he should be penalized any more than someone would for a dirty cross check from behind __________________ Feh.

03-09-2004, 05:26 PM	#40 (permalink)
TheShadow Crazy Location: Vancouver, Canada	It's already been reported that he's feeling awful about the injury that occured. Personally, I don't see why an obviously accidental result has to be taken so harshly. At this point, I can see a 5-10 game suspension making sense. Anything else is just overkill. __________________ You know that song that goes like...