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Hockey Standings
ESPN has finally gotten on board in their power rankings.
I hate when people refer to Detroit being better than St. Louis and listing them above St. Louis in standings. Detroit has played 5 more games (will be 6 tonight) than the Blues. In order for the Blues to just TIE the Red Wings, they would have to go 0-4-1-0 or 0-4-0-1. Not likely... ESPN's Power Rankings, due to an email from a reader, ranked the teams based on Points Percentage (Pointed earned divided by games played x 2). The Blues were 2nd in the league, and that was before they went 3-0-0-0. Current league leaders in Points Percentage (percentage of points earned versus points possible): #1 St. Louis Blues: .722 #2 Philadelphia Flyers: .712 #3 New Jersey .696 #4 Toronto Maple Leafs: .677 #5 Colorado Avalanche .655 #6 Vancouver Canucks .650 #7 Detroit Red Wings .625 |
All that hard work, just so they can choke in the playoffs. It would almost be sad if it wasn't so damn funny. The Blues are the Buffalo Bills of hockey.
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Now that is just a low low low blow.
This is the year....I will say it now.....this is the year. Detroit sucks. |
Whine some more.
The Red Wings are missing 10 regulars. Could have something to do with why they are ranked higher. Art |
BTW you have Osgood in net. You will not win it all.
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St.Louis has always been the most underrated team in the NHL. But St.Louis always chokes in the playoffs. I'm kinda disappointed in them but since I am a Detroit fan I welcome them choking. Sorry to the St.Louis fans.
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St. Louis will win the Stanley Cup within the next 3 years.
I know that's a bold prediction but their time is coming. We've seen the slow inevitable maturing that teams need over the last 4 - 5 years. Look back at Detroit, Colorado and Dallas and how they were before they started winning the Cup. Good teams that just couldn't seem to piece it all together when it counts but after a few years of suffering through playoff disappointment they matured enough to finally punch through. They key is keeping your core group of players together for the time it takes. Many teams, including St. Louis teams of the past get too frustrated too soon and start making wholesale changes to their lineups. They bring in big names with big contracts and all they get for it is more disappointment. Detroit, Colorado, Dallas, they were patient and let their players grow together as a team. St Louis has learned this lesson the hard way. You still may need to make small tweaks to the lineup from time to time but don't mess with the core. Oh and by the way, yes I am a St Louis fan. Born and raised to bleed blue. But more importantly I am a Hockey fan and I try not to let my love of the Blues cloud my judgement when it comes to objectively analyze a situation or team. I truley believe it is their time not just because I am a Blues fan but all the signs are there. |
Please Detroit do not whine about losing regulars.
Do not whine. If you mention the Blues, you have to deal with injuries. Pronger, MacInnis, our top defensemen have been plagued, although Prongs is back and healthy. MacInnis, arguably the best defensemen in the league, is out for the year. Jackman, Rookie of the Year, is out indefinitely. Eric Bounieckie is out with a shoulder injury. Do not make excuses for your team. It is 3-1 now so Detroit will be 3 points ahead of the Blues with 6 games in hand. I think the Blues can muster out 3 points in 6 games. |
St. Louis the Buffalo Bills of Hockey? They need to get to the big games in order for that title. Detroit will own the blues when the time comes, and St. Louis will choke as always. Next to Colorado, I love the rivalry between Detroit and St. Louis, there always seems to be a little spark in each game.
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I am not whining that they are out. I am giving you a reason as to why they should be ranked higher.
Canucks...yeah there is a good laugh. Who is in net for you guys again? Art |
go leafs!
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The only Wings I root for are Datsyuk and Hasek because they are both on my fantasy hockey team. (I picked up Datsyuk in FA about 2 months ago and he has been money ever since.)
GO BLUES!!!! Detroit sucks... |
Whose whining? Detroit has rocked the casba with those 10 players out. Its sad that Detroit can rise to the top of the league with an AHL team playing in their place.
And one image comes to mind when summing up the Blues. It is that of Pronger, after looking like a fool for half a game, trying with all his heart to lay a punishing check on Yzerman (who is playing on one leg as everyone is quick to point out), only to fall flat on his face and knock himself out of not only the rest of the playoffs , but the entire next season as well. All because Yzerman kept his head, and ducked. One tiny little veteran play, and St. Louis' playoff hopes crumbled to a heap on the ice. |
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personally, i'm a huge Devils fan - two days ago i got to have my picture taken with the stanley cup (i got to touch it too) - one of the perks of being a season ticket holder for the stanley cup champions!!! |
Top of the league? Hardly.
Did you not see the Points Percentage? Detroit was #7 in the NHL. Pretty easy to have more points when you have played 6 more games than the Blues. Like I mentioned before, and the whole point of the thread, was that Detroit was being named the top team when in reality they are 7th in the league, the Blues are #1. |
Well, as soon as the league starts using win percentage in place of a points system to determine ranking, then you might have something. And having six games in hand, and actually winning those six games when it counts, is a whole other story. We know how well the Blues perform under pressure.
Detroit 44pts Toronto 44pts Phlidelphia 44pts St. Louis 41pts no hardly about it, just plain fact. |
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Although the Bills never won the Super Bowl, they were statistically the best team of the 90's. Unfortunately, I'm dealing with the present situation, Our offense sucks moose dick! |
Well, hypothetically, if the Blues win ALL 6 of the games, they will be at 53 points.....9 more than Detroit
5 games......7 more 4 games......5 more 3 games......3 more 2 games......1 more 1 games......1 less so all the Blues have to do is go 2-4-0-0 and they are beating Detroit. If the Blues go 0-0-6-0, (or 0-0-0-6), they would still be 3 points ahead of Detroit. Either way, the main point you have to consider the fact that 6 is a lot of games. |
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Yes we will, I just hope the Red Wings have fun watching at home the Blues win the Stanley Cup.
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Do the Blues play in a vacuum? The problem with your math is that during those six games, which won't actually be fully made up until early march, Detroit continues to play games and score points. Not to mention there are 3 more (i think) Det-Stl matchups left this season. So those games are almost like 4 point swings for both teams. If the Blues lost, not only would Stl not get those points to gain on Det, the Wings get those points to pull away.
And don't be so negative about the Bills comment perripken. As much as I dislike the Blues, they are one of the most consistently good regular season teams over the last 20 years. Thats one hell of a stretch in any sport. |
Also helps when the top 8 teams in a conference are admitted. Theoretically, a team last year could have lost EVERY game (0-0-0-82) or TIED every game (0-0-82-0) and have been in the playoffs.
Nikilidstrom, the point that I am trying to make is whie the Blues are keeping up with the points (we are 1 behind now), they still have 5 games in hand. It would be different if we were around 8-10 points behind, but only 1 point seperating and 5 games.........just something to think about. Remeber the game last year when the Blues were getting their asses beat (i think 6-1) and in the last minute there were 229 penalty minutes given out. Crazy. |
everyone says this is the year and it's not for the blues, the red wings, the flyers, the avs.......................whose going to win the cup drumroll.....................................................THE TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS. Look back to this thread and i will take congrats for this prediction after the play-offs lol
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THAT'S VERY UNLIKELY. i'm sure the leafs will choke just like they do every other year... Does anyone other then me think that the president's trophy race is between Philly and Jersey this year? |
I have to go with the leafs having a better chance then Ottawa and Philly but not Jersey. Jersey will win the Stanley Cup only if they have a decent offensive output. And with the rumours of trading Niedermayer it doesn't look too good for the Devils. I'm looking at Leafs vs. Jersey in the East and Detroit vs. Colorado in the west. After that I'm kinda biased since I'm a Red Wings fan but still thats my prediction. But yet again this year St.Louis will choke like in past years.
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It definitely is a tight race all the way around in the west. And while that game was a runaway, soccerchamp76, nothing beats seeing Reed Low having his ass handed to him by Darren McCarty :), except maybe a Kocur vs Quenneville brawl. That whole series saw alot of heart and soul hockey.
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Leafs won't win.
Age will catch up to them sooner or later. I'm hoping Ottawa takes it this year. Or, if my Flames keep playing the way they have.. heheheh... :) |
Yeah Osgood won a cup with the Red Wings. I could have won a cup with the Red Wings that year.
The Blues are no where near as good as the Red Wing team that Osgood won with. Osgood will let in 4 soft goals per playoffs series, minimum. Art |
The Blues are as good.....Weight, Tkachuck, Demitra, Mellanby, Pronger.
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Surely you jest about them being as good as the Red Wing team that Osgood was on.
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all I have to say to that is
Detroit 2 St. Louis 1 go Datsyuk!!! |
Cmon, how can you say the leafs are gonna choke? We have sundin, nieuwendyk, nolan, belfour, roberts and mogilny (he hasnt even played and we're still 1st). Thats a lot of veteran players who know what it takes to win with nieuwendyk and belfour having rings from dallas. We're also on a 15 game point streak (13-0-1-1).
NJ: only in it because of they're amazing defense and goalie, if you look they have one of the lowest goals scored totals in the league. If any of their key defensive players or brodeur gets injured they're screwed. Ottawa: Usually loses to the leafs in the playoffs anytime they play each other Philly and Detroit: Both high scoring teams esp. w/ good young players like datsyuk and comrie. Probably the only real opposition and detroit isnt even a probel til we hit the Cup. |
I knew someone was gonna say something about it, Nikilidstrom.
As much as I like the Blues and hate Detroit; the Blues are not perfect and Detroit has the Blues number. P.S. The ONLY positive that came from that game for me was that I have Datsyuk on my fantasy hockey team. I picked up Datsyuk about 2 months ago on a FA pickup and he has been golden for me. The only Detroit player that I would like to do good, I was just sad he decided he wanted to do it against my team. |
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You'll all be sorry when my Golden Seals win the cup this year and you'll look back at this thread at this post and i will laugh! Harry Howell's gonna do it for us this year, i can feel it.. |
Oh my god the Leafs in first place overall holy shit that rocks GO LEAFS GO
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Leafs #1?!?!?! I'm pretty sure that this is one of the signs of the apacolypse. There are going to be alot of monkeys flying outta peoples butts this season :)
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As much as I dislike the Leafs, they've had a really good team for a few years now. I'm not surprised they're #1. Seems like they've spent less time whining to the media and more time... y'know, playing hockey.
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they rock
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I'm sorry but win % don't mean crap.
It's like saying a team that is 1-0 is better than a team that is 81-0. Just pointless really. Leafs are playing real well despite the fact I hate everything about that team and organization. Everything from the crazy spending to their plans on their own outdoor game. Belfour is carrying that team on his back. He would be my MVP nomination for the first half of the season. |
Leafs will choke as usual
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just like vancouver heh..
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Winning % may not mean crap, but win\loss record sure does. here how does this look?
2003-2004 Regular Season Standings (as of 5:10 AM , 12/30/2003)League Standings RK GPW L T OL PTS GF GA HOME AWAY L10 1 TORONTO 38 21 7 7 3 52 110 92 10-2-1-2 11-5-6-1 6-1-2-1 2 DETROIT 39 22 12 4 1 49 126 90 14-3-1-0 8-9-3-1 6-2-1-1 3 PHILADELPHIA 37 18 6 9 4 49 103 79 13-1-2-2 5-5-7-2 1-3-3-3 4 VANCOUVER 37 20 9 6 2 48 107 84 11-3-4-0 9-6-2-2 6-2-2-0 5 ST LOUIS 34 21 8 4 1 47 89 72 12-2-3-0 9-6-1-1 6-2-2-0 6 NEW JERSEY 35 19 7 8 1 47 86 59 9-4-3-1 10-3-5-0 5-2-2-1 7 CALGARY 35 19 10 3 3 44 82 70 11-5-3-1 8-5-0-2 6-2-2-0 8 ATLANTA 39 19 16 3 1 42 115 115 12-8-2-0 7-8-1-1 5-5-0-0 9 OTTAWA 35 17 10 5 3 42 110 76 10-7-3-2 7-3-2-1 5-2-3-0 10 COLORADO 35 17 10 7 1 42 101 80 10-7-2-0 7-3-5-1 3-3-4-0 11 SAN JOSE 37 14 9 11 3 42 93 85 7-3-7-1 7-6-4-2 5-2-2-1 12 BOSTON 37 14 10 9 4 41 91 93 4-5-6-1 10-5-3-3 2-5-3-0 13 MONTREAL 38 17 15 4 2 40 87 88 9-7-3-0 8-8-1-2 5-3-1-1 14 LOS ANGELES 36 16 12 5 3 40 99 92 8-6-4-0 8-6-1-3 2-2-4-2 15 NY ISLANDERS 36 18 15 2 1 39 104 94 14-6-0-0 4-9-2-1 7-2-0-1 16 DALLAS 38 17 16 5 0 39 78 83 11-4-3-0 6-12-2-0 6-2-2-0 17 NASHVILLE 36 16 14 4 2 38 88 93 9-5-3-1 7-9-1-1 2-3-3-2 18 MINNESOTA 37 14 14 9 0 37 81 78 7-8-4-0 7-6-5-0 5-1-4-0 19 TAMPA BAY 34 15 13 5 1 36 77 75 9-6-2-1 6-7-3-0 2-7-1-0 20 NY RANGERS 35 14 13 5 3 36 96 92 8-5-2-3 6-8-3-0 5-4-0-1 21 PHOENIX 36 11 12 11 2 35 88 105 6-6-2-1 5-6-9-1 2-2-5-1 22 CAROLINA 36 12 14 8 2 34 66 81 8-4-5-1 4-10-3-1 5-4-0-1 23 FLORIDA 38 12 16 8 2 34 82 103 7-7-5-1 5-9-3-1 3-2-4-1 24 ANAHEIM 36 12 15 4 5 33 74 91 8-5-2-2 4-10-2-3 4-6-0-0 25 BUFFALO 37 14 19 3 1 32 80 99 7-8-2-1 7-11-1-0 2-7-1-0 26 EDMONTON 36 13 17 6 0 32 92 103 8-9-2-0 5-8-4-0 2-5-3-0 27 CHICAGO 38 9 19 7 3 28 70 102 6-5-4-2 3-14-3-1 3-5-2-0 28 WASHINGTON 37 11 22 3 1 26 95 116 5-10-1-1 6-12-2-0 3-5-2-0 29 PITTSBURGH 36 9 19 5 3 26 74 126 7-7-3-0 2-12-2-3 3-4-1-2 30 COLUMBUS 36 9 20 4 3 25 74 102 8-9-3-1 1-11-1-2 1-6-1-2 looks pretty good up there on top of the pile. Belfour is playing well but no matter how well a goalie is playing he still can't put the puck in the net, so thier defence must be doing something right because Belfour is looking good and their forwards must be scoring because their winning so therefore the whole team must be helping out not just Belfour. !!!!!! GO LEAFS GO!!!!! |
Go Rangers
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Rangers suck
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I hope the Rangers pull it together and do better as the season progresses.
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Not if there penalty killers are as bad as they were against the Blues (4-8).
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Yeah I agree that win loss does look better for sure. The leafs are playing pretty damn good for a change but still, I have to hate them because my friend is a die hard leaf fan trie to rub it in my face whenever he can. I guess he's been waiting to do this for quite some time.
As for the Rangers, in order for them to get any better they have to get rid of Messier. I'm sorry but this dude is past his prime, has connections in upper management that allows him to remain a figure in the room which intimidates players. He is one of the greatest players to ever play but he is not one of the best players in the league today. Besides, when you're the only active NHLer to be playing in the heritage classic, that should be a sign for retirement. Messier needs to find a gem in that room to develop before he retires. Like what he did for Naslund when Mess was in Vancouver. Look at Nazzy now! Starring in Nike ads and whatnot :lol: Oh yeah, Vancouver rules! hahaha :D |
No complaints about Van City, i love the Canucks......................................not as much as the leafs though. lol
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The leafs are to old, simply put.
Stanly Cup will probably be either Van, Col, Det, or St. Loius. Most underrated team this year: Flames. They will make the playoffs this year, but will probably bow out in the second round. But the leafs do suck, and how many vancouver fans where fans of the team back in the 80's when they were constantly horrid? (suprisingly I do pitty edmonton this year, nothing seems to be going right for them. must be karma acting against mctavish for pulling harvey's tounge last year) |
Go Flames GO!!!
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the leafs old and you include dotroit in that list, in fact every team with the exception of vancouver is old so my friend you'd better rethink your argument. "But the leafs do suck" first place and sucking, i wouldn't care if people thought i sucked. try again later |
leafs keep losing regulars and they keep winning, nolan out for 2+ weeks, mogilny still a month away, kaberle just got injured, belaks out, reichels still weeks away....
i kind of wonder how they will do once everyone gets back healthy....reminds me of the '01 playoffs, they got through 2 grueling playoff series with 1/3 of the team injured, then everyone came back healthy against carolina and the team seemed to lose its chemestry and fell apart to an extent. meanwhile Sundin is the Hart trophy favorite so far. 14 multipoint games, something like 35 3rd period points(most in league by far), and pulling his team together early in the season and leading them to a 15 game point streak. gonna be a good battle between leafs and senators for the NE div title thats for sure! |
Soccerchamp76, my hatred of St. Louis is complete. The one time I actually want them to score a goal, they get shut out by Carolina, of all teams. While this continues to boad well for Detroit, my fantasy league team could have done without it.
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Canucks vs. Leafs/Sens/Canadians in Stanley Cup Finals :)
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And as much as I hate (and I mean HATE!! :p ) the leafs are looking pretty darn good this year. |
The Sens just got a tie against the Islanders, shaving another point off of Toronto's lead, it's down to 3 now. When looking at the standings in the paper this morning, I noticed Montreal's only 2 points behind us, and Boston's only 1 point behind them. (But Boston won tonight and Mtl. didn't play).
This makes Saturday's Sens/Bruins game really interesting, and it'll be even more interesting if Philly beats Toronto on Friday, although I doubt that'll happen, the way the Flyers have been playing. |
Nobody in the playoffs chokes more than the Blues, except the Flyers.
They are expected to win a cup every year and every year they disappoint more and more. |
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pssssst show me wher i mentioned Montreal read a little closer and you'll be fine no problems. and as for uneducated i am 26 years old and have been playing hockey for 22 years. i've played in the United Hockey League in the States, the OHL, the QMJHL, the CJHL, and the Northern Ontario Junior Hockey League oh yeah and the Eastern Ont. Jr. B Hockey League. as for my statement being uneducated if i did actually mention Montreal in my original post which i did not draw your own conclusions if i am qualified to talk about hockey. i'd love to hear where you have played the game Kaos leagues teams would be great. |
Junior hockey eh? got any neat stories about playing against or with current NHL guys?
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played against lots of them, played with Joe Sakic's brother Brian, played against Mark Osborne, Jay McKee, Alyn Mcauley, i shot a puck at Angus the ref Roenick threw the waterbottle at when i was 17 and playing Jr. B in Quebec he's a terrible ref then and now , and many more.
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haha do share. nothing beats a good hockey story
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I'm going to the Leaf v. Philly game tommorow (saturday) after winning tickets from a raffle way back in November. Kind of lucky to have won the tickets to the second game in a back to back rivalry match between two of the top rated teams in the east this year. Pretty good seats too.
Lucky me. |
very lucky job enjoy the game after last night it should be rough
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Glad to see the St. Louis fans have calmed down.
They had what 6 games in hand Detroit had a 3 point advantage. Now it is like a 3 game advantage and Detroit has a 7 point lead. Plus St. Louis have another game tonight with Detroit off. They had better win...:) Art |
So Detroit gets hot and the Blues cool off at the same time.....the gap widens.
The Blues will overtake the Wings once the Wings cool down and the Blues get their shit together. |
Umm sure.
Once Detroit gets a little more healty they will just widen the gap. Art |
Detroit may get healthier but that doesn't help the age factor
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How many years in a row are you guys going to use the age argument against the Wings? They have shown it before, and they are showing it again: Age doesn't matter, as long as the vets that you do have are bad ass. Yzerman is having one of his best seasons in years, Draper is twice as amazing as usual, Lidstrom and Chelios rock, Schneider is comfortable with the team and racking up the points, Shanny is right on track, Woolley is proving that Buffalo Gm is an idiot, and so on. And the scouting Detroit has is top notch, so every year more and more awesome young players come to the team. Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Fischer, Hudler, Kronwall, hopefully Grigorenko next season, the list goes on and on. They had 10 guys out at one point, all good players, and still moved up the standings with basically an AHL team. And just wait till Hatcher returns, damn thats gonna hurt :)
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Bertuzzi just needs to get in front of the net, and get some pucks in to get his confidence back. Sure, the refs may hate him and are picking on him this year, but I still think he has the ability to play as good as he was last year. |
GO CANUCKS GO!!!
This is OUR year this year! |
I'm kinda dissapointed with the loss of slegr cause I have always thoguht that he has been a great player when he puts his effort in (Which is his downfall as well...). But it is good to hear that Hedberg has been called back and should be making the odd starts again, this is a goalie with some real talent.
I msut say the sedins have actually picked it up a little bit this year, even thoguh i've never been a big supporter of them. I remember back to the days of the drinking game when you have a drink every time they fall down =P |
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Back then I would have loved to played that game:crazy: |
Detroit fans have a similar game. 1 shot everytime Devereaux falls down in the first, 2 shots everytime he falls in the second, 3 shots everytime in the third, and of course 4 shots in overtime. And if he is ever traded or retires, you drink the entire bottle in celebration :). Even have a special 4 shot Red Wings glass for that very occasion. Guaranteed to make your liver hate you after only one game.
Is it true that the Sedins fall over because there gigantic alien skulls keep throwing off their balance? Its like somebody cloned Timmy from Southpark, and through them on a hockey team. And I'm sure Boston is thanking you Canucks right now for Slegr, who got a goal in his first game as a Bruin. |
Yes....thank you Vancouver for Slegr!
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I don't know why Burke let him go. :(
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Most likely to make roster space for the goon, Brookbank - Bad move, it seems. I'm hoping Burke will impress us in the near future, since Vancouver now has no trading power, and no defense depth [We would have to trade the likes of Sopel and some other players to get ourselves a solid 2nd line winger, and now we can't].
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I like Burke for the fact that he rebuilt the Vancouver Canucks from top to bottom but I have to say that trading Slegr was a mistake instead of a bum like Sopel. If his main concern was keeping a right handed shot on the PP, why not trade for another right hander instead of a draft pick?
I like Brookbank. Makes other teams know that they have to fight a real fighter against the Canucks rather than Brad May. As for getting a solid 2nd line winger, I think the Canucks could depending on what they're ready to give up. But it looks like the Canucks won't be making any huge deals come the trade deadline. And as for the future of Burke and Cloutier, something tells me that if they don't get far in the playoffs this year, Cloutier will be run out of town and McCaw won't resign Burke. You'd think that Burke would already have a new contract but he doesn't. I think something's up between him and McCaw. |
Go Wings!!
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have you been WATCHING the canucks games lately? Sopel is the only defenseman that is playing worth his snot lately Sopel may be uglier than Jabba the Hutt, but he is playing some damn fine defense right now Cooke is the Defenseman for the 'nucks that is dropping the ball (puck?) right now in my opinion |
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Last time I was in "The Joe", there were 10 of them hanging up. Kidding aside, I do give St. Louis a lot of respect. A lot has been said about the Detroit/Colorado rivalry, but those years have past. The best games in the past few years have ALWAYS been against the Blues. The addition of Osgood helped strengthen that. Chris was and is a good goalie and he has a score to settle with the Wings. I think we will see a great series again this year between the Blues and Wings in the playoffs. The Western Conference series have always been better than the Eastern Conference ones. I wouldn't doubt at all that Detroit and St. Louis meet up for the finals. But Detroit WILL end up in the Cup finals. |
You're ignoring Colorado and Vancouver
both teams who have the ability if properly motivated the western confrence is a force this year |
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is Matt Cooke not a left winger? I'm pretty sure he is. The Leafs are going to win the cup this year anyways. |
sorry my bad, i get him and salo mixed up all the time
i am ashamed :( but seriously, the 'nucks defense is lacking in being able to keep people out of cloutier's face and im not going to get into a bickering competition, but the leafs arent winning the cup :cool: |
wahahaha no worries. but what do you think of sopel? And I agree that Salo has been playing very consistent this season.
Cooke has been injured for quite a while and he is actually a left winger. |
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Vancouver's solid, but Colorado's stronger, especially if Forsberg can stay healthy. That, and Selanne really oughta step up and start scoring some goals. |
Colorado should really be owning every team in the league but in the play-offs anything can happen... Fuck the Minnesota Wild! :(
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I'm wondering how the goaltending's going to turn out in the playoffs.. especially for the Northwest Division.
Everybody has questionable playoff goaltending. Aebisher - First playoffs as a starter Cloutier - Mr. Choke Salo - Sucking it up this year Turek - Defines inconsistency I think Minnesota has the best goaltending situation going into the playoffs (assuming all the northwest teams make it in, which they won't) |
I think if cloutier operates in a vaccum for the playoffs, not letting any of it get to his head, then he can break the mold of him as being a choker
but i doubt it |
As an Avs fan, I'm a lot less worried about Aebischer in the postseason than Sauve in the regular season. He's been winning, but he's been shaky. If he can't be relied on down the stretch and Aebsicher plays too many games, he'll be worn out by the time the playoffs hit.
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I just had to reiterate how the aforementioned sopel bashing is uncalled for
he's got two goals and an assist so far in the game right now. 4-0 nucks right now |
I thought Sopel was playing great i mean what did people expect from the guy, everyone goes through slumps. How long has hockey been around and people still don't realize this.
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Everyone gives him hell because no one can get the shiny silky long hair like his. :)
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I'm sure Sopel doesn't care what is said about him because good or bad he still gets paid, oh darn bench me i still get paid
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but i catch your underlying meaning in the post. |
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Ugh especially during last years playoffs... that scraggly beard and long gross hair made it so much worse
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