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Rippley 02-28-2006 10:50 AM

Formula 1 2006
 
Hey All,

So, let's get this sucker started. Bahrain is going to be kicking off the F1 season in about 2 weeks - what do you think is going to happen this year?

The grid is more open than it has been in a long time, thanks to the new V8's. No one has a lot of experience with them, and with pitstop tire changes back, I think we're in for a humdinger of a season. I predict the Japanese teams, Honda and Toyota, will be the ones to perform really well this year.

What say you?

laconic1 02-28-2006 07:01 PM

I'm really glad that tire changes are back. I'd rather eliminate refueling than tire changes, but at least they figured out tire changes are not a bad thing. There are a couple more cars on the grid this year than there have been in recent years. For me the interesting thing will be if Toyota can contend for the world championship. It will also be interesting to see if Scott Speed can score any points this year.

AquaFox 02-28-2006 07:42 PM

its that close allready!?!?!

thats soo sweet


i'm hoping schmacher does good this year, and down with the japanese makers!!

Craven Morehead 02-28-2006 09:07 PM

Actually Cosworth who is supplying engines to Williams this year has immense racing experience with V-8s, as well as Toyota and Honda.

This should be an interesting season, at least at the beginning until each team gets the changes sorted out. By mid-season I expect some stability. Will be interesting to see how well Alonso does this year, since the team already knows he won't be back the next year. Which sets up a battle at McLaren, which driver will be kept? JPM or Kimi?

Scott Speed won't score any points no matter how good he is. The most he can hope for is to consistantly beat his team mate.

Craven Morehead 02-28-2006 09:39 PM

taken from SpeedTV.com

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Variables Aplenty in F1's 2006 Equation
Written by: Adam Cooper
Balen, Belgium – 2/28/2006

Less than two weeks remain before the 2006 World Championship kicks off in Bahrain, and that time will no doubt race by, much to the frustration of engineers who could do with just another week of testing.

For the rest of us the first race cannot come soon enough, for the start of the season promises to be fascinating. There’s much to catch the attention, and not just the arrival of the new 2.4-liter V8 engines. The grid will certainly look very different compared to last year, as four long established teams now have new identities, and there’s also a brand new 11th team in Super Aguri, which is likely to be woefully uncompetitive at the start of the season.

Then of course we have the new knockout qualifying system, which promises to be a thrilling event in its own right, as well as throwing in a degree of unpredictability. The other big change this year is a return to tire changes at pit stops, which will make strategy choices far more interesting than they were last year.

"The qualifying system is maybe complicated to explain to the people, but they will understand it after two or three races," says world champion Fernando Alonso. "The pit stops will maybe more fun for the people to watch. We will see, but I’m happy with the rule changes."

As pre-season testing in Europe winds down, it’s still impossible to predict with any certainty how the opening races will turn out. Some cars have speed and reliability, others have one or the other but not both, but even as ever testing doesn’t tell the full story. It’s been a very cold winter in Spain, so the miles run at Barcelona, Jerez and Valencia won’t tell the full story. Only three teams chose to test in the heat of Bahrain in February, and it will be interesting to see if they ultimately benefit from that decision.

The cars which make the podium in these early races won’t necessarily still set the pace once we get back to cooler climes in Europe. The rate of development at the major teams is now so extraordinary – Toyota has a revamped TF106B scheduled for Monaco – that as the season gets going, the picture could change dramatically.

A major set of changes always serves to shake things up. The switch to 2.4-liter V8 power for 2006 has of course proved to be a serious undertaking. Most engine men admit that they were able to carry over a lot of knowledge and even parts from the V10 era, but it is still a major challenge to meet performance and reliability targets.

The second race in Malaysia could be the single toughest test of the year for all the new engines. As last year, they have to last for two Grand Prix meetings. Thus anyone who finished the Bahrain GP will be using the same engine, and to have two of the hottest races right when the engines are still so new is the ultimate challenge, and it will be fascinating to see who has got it right.

Concerns over reliability won’t necessarily manifest themselves only in spectacular failures. The other signs will be drivers doing very few practice laps over the course of the weekend in order to save mileage (much easier for the teams with third drivers on Friday), while poor straight line speed figures leave nowhere to hide. Every team has the option to ‘de-tune’ its engines in order to increase longevity, although that does of course mean a loss of power – in Bahrain last year BMW and Williams had a cooling problem and the cars were hopelessly slow on the straights.

The downsizing to V8 power has had a much wider impact, and especially on aerodynamics. The emphasis has switched from finding every last scrap of downforce, to improving overall efficiency. The goal is to win back some of the straight line speed sapped by the power reduction. Handily, the smaller engines have also allowed designers to create tidier and less draggy rear ends, while the reduced cooling requirement has also favored drag reduction. All this means that the guys in the wind tunnels have been as busy as ever over the winter, and not all of them will have got it right.

Tires are of course the real key to what happens this year. The balance of power in the tire war has changed as Bridgestone now has five teams to the six of Michelin, having taken big players Toyota and Williams on board. Thus no longer is it basically Ferrari and Bridgestone versus the rest.

With the teams now shared out on a more equitable basis, Bridgestone is in a much stronger position, but it would be wrong to assume that the return of race tire changes will automatically see the Japanese company bounce back to where it was in 2004, or that Michelin will do a worse job than it did last season. The contest will no doubt ebb and flow as the year goes on.

Despite all the changes, winter testing has indicated that the reigning world champions are still in a pretty strong position. The new Renault R26 has looked good from the start, and it could well be the car to beat, although Honda and McLaren are in the picture, the latter having seemingly dug itself out of serious engine problems. As ever, Ferrari’s potential is closely linked to that of Bridgestone, and reliability problems in testing have not helped.

Bahrain should be a fascinating weekend, but so too will Malaysia the following week, as the new V8 engines come to the end of their first two-race cycle. Some people are going to be very nervous until the flag falls…


RACER Senior Writer Adam Cooper has not missed a Grand Prix since Suzuka in October 1994. His interest in motorsports was sparked at an early age, and as a dedicated James Hunt fan, he persuaded his folks to take him to his first F1 race at age 10. In his early teens he served as gofer for a local racer who fielded a March Formula 2 car on a shoestring budget.

Adam has written books about Michael Schumacher, Eddie Irvine and 1960s racer Piers Courage, and currently writes for Road & Track and RACER magazines.


bobby 03-01-2006 07:43 AM

I ,for one,am pumped about the comming season.....Ferrari will have to work hard,but I see them as the dark horse that will emerge at the end of the season ahead of the rest.....Shuey is the best,smartest driver around and will make the most of that!....

............let's keep in touch over the comming months! love ya all, bobby xoxoxoo

Craven Morehead 03-01-2006 08:12 AM

Cool on you bobby, didn't know you followed F1. We had a somewhat growing thread here last year on F1, got updated after each race but kind of fell apart towards the end of the season for lack of interest. We need to revive that this year!

powerclown 03-03-2006 07:47 PM

Thanks for the pre-season update. Looking forward to the new teams, new colors, new V8 engine sounds, new drivers.
Hopefully we'll have some good, close racing this year. Go Raikkonen!

superiorrain 03-04-2006 02:54 PM

Well... this year i was beaten on opening the thread. Lets hope that this year is has a few more posters.

After all the politics of the winter, the formation of new teams, drivers desperately hoping for a drive (sato - can't believe he is back) and new cars and quali rules, it is all setting up to be an excellent season. As for predictions, it is impossible to give any afterall testing never produces reliable data for the fans. I'm of course hoping it is Jensons season, he needs to do something season or he'll just fade into darkness.

I'm thinking that Ferrari will come out strong, especially as many are saying it's michael last year. I'm so excited, one week and counting.....bring it on finally the dark and cold winter is behind us...let us see the light and let us know that it will be good.

Serpent 03-04-2006 09:03 PM

suposidly the lump in the back of the williams car (the cosworth one) is the one with the most hp on the grid. However, it might not be the lightest so i am not sure about the hp/weight ratio of just the engine.

Craven Morehead 03-04-2006 10:34 PM

And speaking of Williams/Cosworth. Take a look at what happens when you lop off two cylinders. Look at the fin as it extends back from the airbox.

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Craven Morehead 03-04-2006 10:35 PM

Honda

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Craven Morehead 03-04-2006 10:37 PM

Ferrari

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Craven Morehead 03-04-2006 10:40 PM

McLaren - orange for testing only - have to find the pictures of the totally blinged out race livery

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Craven Morehead 03-04-2006 10:41 PM

BMW Sauber

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Craven Morehead 03-04-2006 10:44 PM

Renault

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Craven Morehead 03-04-2006 10:45 PM

Midland (RIP Jordan)

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Craven Morehead 03-04-2006 10:47 PM

McLaren - in total bling mode :D

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Craven Morehead 03-04-2006 10:49 PM

New Ferrari front wing was found to be worth .3 sec in testing. Huge!!

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Craven Morehead 03-04-2006 10:51 PM

Super Aguri (an updated Arrows maybe)

needs more everything

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blade02 03-04-2006 11:10 PM

I just wish F1 coverage was easier to get in the US. Speed Vision used to be real good about it. But since the change to Speed Channel, they've dropped WRC, and have less and less F1 coverage. Its hard for me to keep track of it, when all I can find on tv are TV shows about chopper motorcyles and NASCAR. (Dont get me wrong I like NASCAR, but I only need about an hour of info after qualifying on Friday night and the race, not 24 hour 7 day a week coverage.) I also need my weekly update on F1 and race coverage, but thats harder to come by.


edit: because I got Speed Vision and Channel out of order.

powerclown 03-06-2006 12:52 PM

Man I don't know about the McLaren...it looks ridiculous in pictures, but it might look fantastic out on track. The Renault: like the color scheme, too many wings everywhere. BMW/Sauber and SuperAguri both look equally boring. The Ferrari looks like it hasn't changed in 6-7 years. The Williams looks great - not too excited about the Cosworth engines though. Could be a long year for Williams. Thanks for the pics.

bobby 03-07-2006 07:45 PM

MARK YOUR CALENDARS...............XOXOXOO


2006 FORMULA ONE SCHEDULE

March 12 Bahrain, Speed, 6 a.m.
March 18 Malaysia, Speed, 1:30 a.m.
April 1 Australia, Speed, 10:30 p.m.
April 23 San Marino, CBS, 1 p.m. (SD)
May 7 Europe (Nürburgring), Speed, 7:30 a.m.
May 14 Spain, CBS, 1 p.m. (SD)
May 28 Monaco, CBS, 1 p.m. (SD)
June 11 Great Britain, CBS, 1 p.m. (SD)
June 25 Canada, Speed, 12:30 p.m.
July 2 United States, Speed, 1:30 p.m.
July 16 France, Speed, 7:30 a.m.
July 30 Germany, Speed, 7:30 a.m.
Aug. 6 Hungary, Speed, 7:30 a.m.
Aug. 27 Turkey, Speed, 7:30 a.m.
Sept. 10 Italy, Speed, 7:30 a.m.
Oct. 1 China, Speed, 12:30 a.m.
Oct. 8 Japan, Speed, 1:30 a.m.
Oct. 22 Brazil, Speed, 12:30 p.m.

All times are Eastern

bobby 03-07-2006 07:57 PM

Qualifying
One of the biggest and most anticipated changes affects qualifying. A shootout format replaces the almost universally criticized one-car, single-lap system. This is intended to shake up the grid as single-lap qualifying often did, yet bring back the excitement and gunslinger nature of the one-hour, 12-lap, fastest-man-standing system used until the end of 2002. Here’s how the new knockout format works:

Part I

All 22 cars may run unlimited laps during the first 15 minutes of a one-hour session. Afterward the six slowest cars can no longer participate; they will make up the last six grid places according to their times.

Part II

Times are reset after a five-minute break, and the 16 remaining cars compete in another 15-minute session with no lap limitation. The six slowest cars are eliminated again and fill in places 11 through 16.

Part III

Following another break, the times are reset for a final 20-minute, unlimited-lap shootout between the 10 remaining cars. This group decides pole position and the top 10 grid positions.

The catch

Cars may run with any amount of fuel in the first two 15-minute sessions. Cars eliminated after these two sessions may refuel to any level ahead of the race.

Also, with the two-race-per-engine rule still in effect, the bottom 12 cars will put fewer miles on their engines.

The top 10 drivers must start the final 20-minute session with the fuel load they intend to start the race with. (Could starting 11th for a top team be an advantage?) Each car will be weighed before it leaves the pits, and the fuel used during the session may be replaced at its conclusion.

But because teams must start the session with their race fuel loads, and cars go faster as fuel is burned, you can expect teams to run more laps to lighten the fuel load. This also may see some teams compromising their race strategy for the sake of a good start position, and piling up excess mileage on their engines.

Craven Morehead 03-07-2006 10:09 PM

drop the flag, I'm ready

powerclown 03-08-2006 09:09 AM

I like the new (old) qualifying rules.
Having all the cars on track at the same time during qualifying was always exciting to see.

superiorrain 03-08-2006 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerclown
I like the new (old) qualifying rules.
Having all the cars on track at the same time during qualifying was always exciting to see.

Amen, to that brother. Also nice to see the tyre change coming back.

I'm like the bling of the McLaren, i like shiney things. Only 4 days till some action, it's like losing my varginity all over again.

Craven Morehead 03-09-2006 02:48 PM

Suderia Torro Rosso - RIP Minardi

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Craven Morehead 03-09-2006 02:54 PM

In the pictures notice how much stronger the suspension arms are as opposed to the previous years. I can't recall who it happened to last year, but there was at least one suspension failure resulting in some scary accidents. These are all carbon fiber pieces and if compromised they will lose all load bearing capabilities in an instant, unlike a metallic piece. Not only does each piece bear the weight of the car but also is designed to flex acting almost like a damper/shock absorber. Other open wheel formulas do not have these pieces hard mounted as in F1, they are mounted on a pivot point with the suspension designed completely different. Probably costs a small fortune for each one!

Craven Morehead 03-10-2006 12:51 PM

very cool paint job

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superiorrain 03-10-2006 01:29 PM

Looks like Ferrari are feeling confident after signing a new test treaty which will limit their testing. We all now know that they didn't want to do that last year because they were rubbish. Anyway about 13 hours and qualifying will finally start. Lets hope that it will live up to the hype on the TFP.

AquaFox 03-11-2006 12:34 PM

very cool pictures, but ahhhh darn am i not used to seeing that ferrari sporting that number 5.....!!!!

superiorrain 03-12-2006 08:30 AM

What a cool race. Nice to see the old master against the new. Even better was all the battles in the middle of the field. I think that Alonso was a deserved winner, it truelly was an excellent proformance by the team. Michael looks like he's finding his groove again, which will make this season even better than last year.

I though Kimi done a fab job in coming through the field. He has shown yet again that he never gives up the ghost. It was a shame that Jenson has such a bad start, but then again if you want to be champion then you have to learn the get off the line first.

Rosberg at aged 20 (i think), what a race he had. He kept it real thoughout the whole race and took his chances. My driver of the day... looks like there will be more to come from him. Webber had a soild proformance but i still think that he'll never make it to the top of F1.

Final words: I'm so happy that F1 is about racing again. However, i still can't believe Sato got a drive.

Roll on next week.

powerclown 03-12-2006 10:11 AM

Yes, a pretty exciting race...good to see F1 back again in 2006.

Raikkonen with an excellent drive...what would he have done from pole, then?!? Lap the field a few times? The new McLaren looks good out there...the bright red flashes on the front/rear wings really make it stand out nicely.

Quite surprised to see Schumacher running so hard at age 37. Great stuff. He gave 24 year-old Alonso a good fight - one mistake from Alonso and Schumacher would have won. No slowing down yet for MS.

Nico Rosberg: 1st F1 race, fastest race lap. IMPRESSIVE. I like this guys driving style, seems very very talented. So young too, yes. The LeBron James of F1??? Webber with a good finish as well - the Cosworth V8 looking surprisingly good so far. Great looking car.

I don't think Super Aguri has any business in F1..what a disaster of a team. I think I heard them say the chassis is from the 2001 Arrows...what??? This Ide dunce nearly takes out half his pit team on a stop. Not good! Too bad for Sato - I would have liked to see him at BAR for one more year, but he's finished in F1.

Poor Toyota...maybe they need to spend their hundreds of millions in NASCAR instead...oh wait...:p

Craven Morehead 03-12-2006 11:15 AM

Great race. Rosberg impressed the hell out of me. They guy won't back down. Kimi, Fernando, Michael were all at their best -- as usual.

Did I say great race? So glad the season's started!!!!

PS - let's retire this thread since I put so many pictures in it, its slow to load. How about a new thread each race?

powerclown 03-12-2006 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craven Morehead
PS - let's retire this thread since I put so many pictures in it, its slow to load. How about a new thread each race?

Sounds good here...maybe we can rename this thread F1 Photos or something more...colorful, as a place to put various images of F1 that come during the season? (F1 Babes...winkwinknudgenudge...)

Rippley 03-12-2006 12:27 PM

Just wanted to second the comments on Rosberg. He's my new favorite talent. Everyone else on good form. Disappointed by Barichello and Ralf, though. They could have done better. And what a shame for Fisichella. He's finally in a decent car, and the damn thing loses hydraulic pressure... That has to suck.

I'm all for starting a new thread for each race. Bring it on!

superiorrain 03-12-2006 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craven Morehead
PS - let's retire this thread since I put so many pictures in it, its slow to load. How about a new thread each race?

You certainly did slow the whole thread down with your pictures:crazy: May i suggest that we could just axe the pictures out of this thread. I think if we open a thread for every race we will be in danger of either losing people due to thread fatigue or simply the thread won't be filled as it should be. Just my thoughts.

Of course if a new thread is open for every race, i'd follow. I just like the central thread that's all.

Can't believe we are racing again next week. I'm truely living for the weekend. :D

Arachnid 03-12-2006 02:25 PM

April 1 Australia, Speed, 10:30 p.m.

this is the one im attending


its allways a great day
'

Cheers

Craven Morehead 03-12-2006 07:59 PM

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superiorrain 03-13-2006 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Craven Morehead
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No this page runs faster than an F1 V10. Cheers Craven :thumbsup:

bobby 03-13-2006 07:36 AM

ferrari did well.................may suprize as season goes along....I missed the race(was out of town and no speedchannel...........waiting for replay xoxoxoo..

superiorrain 03-18-2006 03:31 PM

What's this, nobody saw qualifying today? no body with any predictions. I was relying on you guys to give me an insight for the race tomorrow. Unfortunally i miss qualifying today and was unable to celebrate Jensons 2nd place along with Rosbergs 3rd. But no matter the race is about 7 hours, so time enough to sleep and be ready for it, albeit tired.

Anyway on the basis of what the rankings for tomorrow, i predict an awesome race where Rosberg will become the most talked about driver and Jenson will fall back towards sixth after Alonso, Kimi and Michael take him. Sato will do his best to avoid his team mate but they will spin out together and montoya will take 4th.

If any of this is right, then you all owe me a beer.

Oh and keep writting on this thread, it can't die already.

bobby 03-18-2006 03:56 PM

schuey will have to work hard this time.....McLaren will win...mark my words...xoxoxoo

superiorrain 03-19-2006 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby
schuey will have to work hard this time.....McLaren will win...mark my words...xoxoxoo

Well...your words were marked but as you can see you were wrong. Then again i didn't fair much better. Although i did get Montoya place right.

I didn't think too much of todays race, granted i got up early and wasn't really in the mood but for me the racing wasn't there. No real good wheel to wheel action. Anyway i'm going to make one prediction for the next race, Jenson will be 2nd overall.

Rippley 03-20-2006 12:30 PM

Damn that Rosberg and his good looks!!! ...ok, damn his engine for not lasting two races. I was counting on him to do really well, only to be disappointed by the hardware... Well, at least Ferrari didn't win, and Renault, showed us what they're mae of. I love the pit radios this year, allowing us to hear whats going on. Well don Ralf as well, coming up from the rear and placing in the points. I'm guessing Jenson was feeling like the slightly uncomfortable meat in a Ferrari/Renault sammich there towards the end. And Kudos to Massa for not letting Michael by. Gotta love the youngsters not bullied! But damn that Nico... Also, how much does Kimi's life suck right now... Can't wait for the next race!

bobby 03-20-2006 07:25 PM

kimi will do well.....if only the equipment will last......ferrari is not to be counted out yet

.....xoxoxoo

silent_jay 03-23-2006 08:35 PM

Woo Hoo 7th place for Jacques, I'm so freaking happy, especially after the small fire show the car gave off in Baharain.

laconic1 04-01-2006 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Craven Morehead
Scott Speed won't score any points no matter how good he is. The most he can hope for is to consistantly beat his team mate.

Well it wasn't pretty, and he didn't get 8th until the last 50 yards of the race but Speed did manage to get a point today. Wild race, I don't think I've ever seen four safety car periods in one race before.

itch vaccine 04-02-2006 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby
schuey will have to work hard this time.....McLaren will win...mark my words...xoxoxoo

booo, Renault will

Go Alonso~ :P

Sharon 04-02-2006 02:14 PM

Am I the only F1 girl in this thread? :)

The Australian GP was one of the best races I have seen in ages... and I agree fully on Nico Rosberg - what a hottie!

And Scott Speed got a penalty and lost his point I believe.

Daval 04-02-2006 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by crazybill5280
Well it wasn't pretty, and he didn't get 8th until the last 50 yards of the race but Speed did manage to get a point today. Wild race, I don't think I've ever seen four safety car periods in one race before.


I really enjoyed the race today, However as Sharon stated Scott Speed was penalized for passing under the yellow and is no longer in the points.

Source - F1live.com

Go McLaren Go!

laconic1 04-02-2006 02:45 PM

Wow they penalized Scott Speed for passing under yellow and didn't penalize Ralf Schumacher?

bobby 04-02-2006 04:23 PM

WHAT A RACE...FULL OF ACTION,NON-ACTION,AND CONTRAVERSY...RENUALT IS OFF TO A GREAT START....COME-ON THE REST OF YOU ...MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN !!

XOXOXOO

Rippley 04-03-2006 11:17 AM

I'm lovin' this season. I missed the Australian race, because of work, but apparently it was pretty exciting! I so badly want rossberg and his Beemer to start taking some points. He has some serious potential, that kids. I see great things in his future. Also: Schumi parking it?! There's something you don't see often. I 'spect there are som engineers at Ferrari that have some 'splainin' to do...

AquaFox 04-03-2006 11:42 AM

umm... okay, i think massa wrecked a ferrari in qualifying or practice if i'm not mistaken? then both schmacher and massa wreck in the race..? 3 cars?? good luck to the guys who get to rebuild the fleet before next week!

Craven Morehead 04-06-2006 07:38 PM

Spy photo of Sato's sterring wheel












http://abort.boom.net/~sublime/sato_steer.jpg

AquaFox 04-06-2006 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Craven Morehead
Spy photo of Sato's sterring wheel


http://abort.boom.net/~sublime/sato_steer.jpg


yep, that's his wheel :D

bobby 04-06-2006 08:17 PM

hahahahahah!!!..Mothra + ramming speed = 1st corner take-out of last 4 starters!!!

xoxoxoxoo

cyrnel 04-06-2006 08:49 PM

I watched Australia twice just for the weirdness. Looked like they handed the keys to a bunch of SCCA drivers.

Or gave that steering wheel to everybody. :D

dlish 04-07-2006 02:00 AM

i went down to melbourne last weekend for my first ever LIVE F1 race..and wow was it a buzz! ill be going up to the gold coast for the Indy's and def back to melbourne next year for the next F1 race!

aKula 04-07-2006 03:15 AM

Can someone explain the exact rule to me that Button still got 10th place? Is it to do with the other cars being over 1 lap behind?

superiorrain 04-08-2006 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aKula
Can someone explain the exact rule to me that Button still got 10th place? Is it to do with the other cars being over 1 lap behind?

As far as i understand it has everything to do with lapping. When winner passes the finishing lap then the race is effectively over, in so far as you complete the lap you are on. If you are a lap behind then you can never make it up, or else you'd have some teams carrying on ages after it had been won in order to make up places (although that matter less under the new quali rules).

That picture of Sato's steering wheel is classic.

NotAnAlias 04-11-2006 05:46 PM

Sato's actually doing remarkably well in super aguri, don't be so mean :P.

And yeah, button was 10th because the race is over after the winner crosses the line, so everyone completes the lap they were on and that's it.

Melbourne being so late was weird. And rather funny too. Ferrari got it _so_ wrong.

AquaFox 05-07-2006 08:04 PM

ah, red in the front again :D



that was quite the race! i didn't think he was going to win, i was hoping for the pit pass to happen as it did, but then he just took off, alonso had no chance after that! and congrats to mesa!

cyrnel 05-07-2006 08:20 PM

Nice to see racing again this weekend. San Marino tire shenanigans were a bit painful.

Torrents are driving me mad though. For the first three races people posted almost immediately after each session. But since the 3wk break nobody posts until the night after the race. Bah!

bobby 05-08-2006 06:20 AM

ferrari 2 in a row....the brain trust + shuey are on a roll.....maybe to late for championship but they aren't going to roll over!!! wow,great race! xoxoxoo

Craven Morehead 05-11-2006 07:09 AM

I read that Ferrari has fixed a major engine flaw. Now they are on a roll. The first V-8 engine to win back to back (same engine both times) under the new rules. This could be the start of season long domination.

Daval 05-11-2006 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craven Morehead
I read that Ferrari has fixed a major engine flaw. Now they are on a roll. The first V-8 engine to win back to back (same engine both times) under the new rules. This could be the start of season long domination.

God I hope not. I like to see variety, but then again, i don't want Alonso winning every race either. Would be really nice if the McLaren's, Toyota's and BAR's could be on the front row.

bobby 05-11-2006 04:48 PM

the honda/ toyota guys seem to have the engine horsepower thing down,but the handling eludes them???.............why? xoxoxoo

AquaFox 05-11-2006 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby
the honda/ toyota guys seem to have the engine horsepower thing down,but the handling eludes them???.............why? xoxoxoo


they got it down, it's just a matter of getting it down as good as ferrari and renault!


i however don't see honda/toyota getting any podiums anytime soon...but it's likely that they could do it down the road

powerclown 05-13-2006 09:34 AM

I for one am amazed to see father time Shumacher still winning races at age 53. Whatever Ferrari have done, I hope they keep it up as I'd rather see The Shoe winning instead of PeeWee Herman-Alonso. Poor Ide gets his license yanked. Where did Montoya go, where is Raikkonen, where did McLaren disappear to?

Barcelona: Sato just outqualified his teammate by 2 sec...give this man a decent car please!

bobby 05-13-2006 12:24 PM

SHUEY IS NOT 53!!!

http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/img/photo_mschumacher.jpg

03/01/69

GREAT SITE FOR INFO.....http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/

XOXOXOO

powerclown 05-13-2006 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby
SHUEY IS NOT 53!!!

03/01/69

GREAT SITE FOR INFO.....http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/

XOXOXOO

He's no Walter Rohrl, but he's getting a bit....senior...by F1 standards, what with all the Rosbergs and Raikkonens barely out of high school. You know you're getting old when you've been watching F1 since before some of the current drivers were born! :crazy:

Thanks for the link -- nice site

AquaFox 05-14-2006 09:31 AM

i'm watching now, honda just got blue flagged to let the leaders pass, so they arn't doing all that great... it doesnt look like shoey is getting to 1st place today, but oh well.. 2nd is still decent

powerclown 05-14-2006 06:52 PM

Another good finish for Ferrari's Father Time.

How about Mr. Takuma Sato storming across the line for 17th place? He finished the race! It's a start...it's progress, it's baby steps. Next comes top 15 finish - top 10 finish - top 8 qualifying - points finish - consistent points finish - top 5 finish - 2nd row qualifying - fastest race lap - top 5 final standings - signed by Frank Williams - race wins - F1 World Champion 2009.

Looks like Raikkonen be in the Red Car for '07. The way McLaren has been running, its starting to look good for him and bad for Alonso. Looking forward to MONACO.

bobby 05-15-2006 06:41 AM

rather boring race,but still fun......Monaco will be great....xoxoxoo

AquaFox 05-15-2006 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby
rather boring race,but still fun......Monaco will be great....xoxoxoo


would be greater if CBS wasn't airing it :rolleyes:

bobby 05-16-2006 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AquaFox
would be greater if CBS wasn't airing it :rolleyes:


that's it !.............was in a fuzz at the time...cbs SUCKS! :rolleyes:

MAY TURN OFF SOUND AT NEXT RACE!!! :thumbsup:

Sheheen should be a hockey broadcaster and Dailey is a washed up wanabee
..........what crap!!! :crazy:

AquaFox 05-16-2006 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby
that's it !.............was in a fuzz at the time...cbs SUCKS! :rolleyes:

MAY TURN OFF SOUND AT NEXT RACE!!! :thumbsup:

Sheheen should be a hockey broadcaster and Dailey is a washed up wanabee
..........what crap!!! :crazy:



i get it good, but the broadcasters suck, they talk to the viewers like they are 10 years old.. and they explain the same things over and over :crazy:

powerclown 05-27-2006 11:56 AM

I never thought I'd see the day that Schumacher would pull a stunt like he did today in Monaco. Unbelievable. He needs to be disqualified for purposely blocking the track during qualifying, as the rules clearly state. How could he possibly think anyone would believe that was an accident??? Has anyone in the entire 55 year history of the Monaco Grand Prix ever gone off like that at Rascasse? It's the slowest corner on the track! I like how Alonso didn't even try to hide his disgust for what Schumacher pulled. Booooooooo Schumacher! I hope Sato gets the Ferrari drive for 2007.

AquaFox 05-27-2006 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerclown
I never thought I'd see the day that Schumacher would pull a stunt like he did today in Monaco. Unbelievable. He needs to be disqualified for purposely blocking the track during qualifying, as the rules clearly state. How could he possibly think anyone would believe that was an accident??? Has anyone in the entire 55 year history of the Monaco Grand Prix ever gone off like that at Rascasse? It's the slowest corner on the track! I like how Alonso didn't even try to hide his disgust for what Schumacher pulled. Booooooooo Schumacher! I hope Sato gets the Ferrari drive for 2007.



hell that rocked! it shows Ferrari and Schmacher still got a bad boy side to them :D i havn't seen them take advantage of rules and loopholes in a while :thumbsup:

Craven Morehead 05-27-2006 02:24 PM

Sent to the back of the pack

Quote:

Schumacher sent to the back
Ferrari stripped of pole

Michael Schumacher has been stripped of pole position for tomorrows Monaco Grand Prix, and will start from the back of the grid after the Stewards of the meeting deleted all his times from qualifying following a lengthy consideration of evidence.

Schumacher stopped at the Rascasse corner in the dying seconds of the session, having seemingly locked up and subsequently stalled the engine, bringing out yellow flags which ruined the final laps of Fernando Alonso (Renault), Kimi Raikkonen (McLaren) and Mark Webber (Williams) all of whom looked likely to eclipse the Ferrari driver.

Immediately after the incident it was clear that most observers considered it a deliberate move, and the Stewards immediately launched a detailed enquiry.

Tony Scott-Andrews, the permanent steward, and his two fellow stewards heard evidence from the driver himself as well as Ferrari Technical Director Ross Brawn, Team Manager Stefano Domenicali, and Schumachers Race Engineer Chris Dyer. They also considered video evidence, data supplied to them by Ferrari and the FIA, and the views of Alan Prudom, software analyst for the FIA, and Race Director Charlie Whiting. The deliberations took over eight hours.

The conclusion of the stewards was that Schumacher had “lost time in sector two, arrived at Turn 18 at a speed little, if any, different from his previous fastest lap, and braked with such force that his front wheels locked up, requiring the driver to regain control of the car.”

The statement when on to add: \"The driver ultimately did so without hitting the barrier on the outside of Turn 18. The engine of the car subsequently stalled, with the result of the car partially blocked the track.\"

\"Having compared all relevant data, the stewards can find no justifiable reason for the driver to have braked with such undue, excessive and unusual pressure at this part of the circuit, and are therefore left with no alternatives but to conclude that the driver deliberately stopped his car on the circuit in the last few minutes of qualifying, at a time at which he had thus far set the fastest lap time.\"

The stewards have penalised Michael Schumacher under Article 112 of the Sporting regulations, which they explained “allows the stewards to delete any number of a driver\'s qualifying times for a driving infringement, which decision is not susceptible to appeal.\"

The decision means that Mark Webber will now start on the front row, alongside new pole position man Fernando Alonso, with the two Mclarens of Kimi Raikkonen and Juan Pablo Montoya lining up on row two. Rubens Barrichello, in the Honda, and Jarno Trulli’s Toyota now start on row three, and David Coulthard in the Red Bull will start alongside Nico Rosberg in the second Williams on the fourth row.

The final two top ten positions will be occupied by Giancarlo Fisichella, who has also been stripped of his three best times, and the second Toyota of Ralf Schumacher.






This article was written on Saturday, May 27, 21:07

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powerclown 05-27-2006 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AquaFox
hell that rocked! it shows Ferrari and Schmacher still got a bad boy side to them :D i havn't seen them take advantage of rules and loopholes in a while :thumbsup:

Spoken like a diehard tifosi!
Send him to the back, AT LEAST...
Anthony Davidson said on TV that he definitely did it on purpose. Said if you really crash at that corner, you hit the wall.

So Blatant!! :crazy:

AquaFox 05-27-2006 02:42 PM

i have yet to see the video of this, since it's controled by CBS this week, i dont think they aired anything on speed, and CBS only airs sunday... or atleast to my knowing...


did you see it yet or are you just going on what he said?

powerclown 05-27-2006 02:43 PM

Quote:

"Having compared all relevant data, the stewards can find no justifiable reason for the driver to have braked with such undue, excessive and unusual pressure at this part of the circuit, and are therefore left with no alternatives but to conclude that the driver deliberately stopped his car on the circuit in the last few minutes of qualifying, at a time at which he had thus far set the fastest lap time.
Stupid, stupid, stupid. The crazy thing is, Schumacher probably would have still been on the first row. I would never have expected it from 7x WC Schumacher. Shameful to Ferrari, shameful to his reputation, shameful to F1.

Thanks for the report, Craven.

powerclown 05-27-2006 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AquaFox
i have yet to see the video of this, since it's controled by CBS this week, i dont think they aired anything on speed, and CBS only airs sunday... or atleast to my knowing...


did you see it yet or are you just going on what he said?

I saw it live.

Have a look:
Schumacher In Car Shot
Schumacher Overhead Shot

cyrnel 05-27-2006 04:12 PM

Quote:

Have a look:
I didn't think he'd be up for such nonsense this late in his career. Memories of Mansell or Prost. Either he hit oil, spazzed, or did it on purpose. Sure looks like the stewards are right. Too bad. I'm a fan. I always enjoyed watching him nail that course, especially in the rain.

AquaFox 05-27-2006 07:11 PM

i just watched the replay of it on TV plus those videos.. you gotta admit ferrari isn't on top of the game anymore and losing one of the most powerful reigns in sports gotta be tough, soo it for sure could be done intentionally, but it might not have been... it's is just as likely that he goofed up, hell it happens all the time.. he goofs up once and a while, remember monaco two years ago when he wrecked? he did lock his wheels up an at the angle he was going into that turn, i don't think he could have made it, atleast he keep it from the wall...

superiorrain 05-28-2006 01:05 PM

Who cares, lets put behind us. Because it turned out to be an awesome race. especially with Michaels amazing 5th place. Overall, I'm glad he started at the back made for some interesting racing especially with the front end staying pretty much the same all throughout.

AquaFox 05-28-2006 02:29 PM

darn cable box fudged up my recording, i got two hours of a message dialog box recorded :(



the race did sound pretty cool, i allways loved watching monaco

powerclown 05-28-2006 06:01 PM

I never much cared for Schumacher, having watched him race since his first drive in the Jordan at Spa. Mika Hakkinen had more charisma than Schumacher, and that's saying a lot. He's one of those ultra-successful sporting figures that commands respect, but never admiration. He's the Barry Bonds of F1. What he did this weekend at Monaco further solidifies my opinion of him as a ruthless, graceless, dirty driver. It's what has drove him to such a ridiculous amount of championships and why he's still racing at age 37. I have a lot of respect for how Alonso handled this nonsense, and then eventually winning the race.

madp 06-05-2006 12:36 PM

Wow. ..I didn't know this thread existed!

I've got my tickets for the Canadian GP later this month, but I need to brush up on my French to work on the local hotties! Anyone on this thread from Montreal?

bobby 06-05-2006 03:49 PM

NOT THAT THIS HAS MUCH TO DO WITH ANYTHING....BUT

HERE IS ralph's WIFE BEFORE ralph..(nsfw)

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=105284

xoxoxoo

powerclown 06-05-2006 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madp
Wow. ..I didn't know this thread existed!

I've got my tickets for the Canadian GP later this month, but I need to brush up on my French to work on the local hotties! Anyone on this thread from Montreal?

Not from Montreal, but have been to the Canadian GP multiple times. Where are you sitting? Female eye candy galore downtown...hope you have a strong heart.

Montreal is an awesome city with a million things to do. They have a modern subway system as well, that can take you right to the racetrack from the downtown area. Nothing beats the sights and sounds of F1 in person. Almost nothing... ;)

madp 06-06-2006 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerclown
Not from Montreal, but have been to the Canadian GP multiple times. Where are you sitting? Female eye candy galore downtown...hope you have a strong heart.

Montreal is an awesome city with a million things to do. They have a modern subway system as well, that can take you right to the racetrack from the downtown area. Nothing beats the sights and sounds of F1 in person. Almost nothing... ;)


I don't know exactly where the seats are, but I have been invited to be part of a group that goes every year, and the seats are supposed to be in the best viewing area (Champion's Corner, perhaps? I don't know for sure). Some members of the party live in Montreal, so I'm sure I'll be well taken care of! Do I need to brush up on my French to get lucky? :lol:

powerclown 06-06-2006 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madp
I don't know exactly where the seats are, but I have been invited to be part of a group that goes every year, and the seats are supposed to be in the best viewing area (Champion's Corner, perhaps? I don't know for sure). Some members of the party live in Montreal, so I'm sure I'll be well taken care of! Do I need to brush up on my French to get lucky? :lol:

While the francophone population outnumbers the anglophone population about 4:1, Montreal is officially bilingual. Most - if not all - public establishments downtown (and nearby surrounding environs) speak both english and french. It probably wouldn't hurt to speak a bit of French with the ladies, but a charming bastard is a charming bastard in any language, no? :D

Good luck and have fun. Don't forget earplugs, and check the weather for rain...umbrellas come in handy!

madp 06-06-2006 05:44 PM

Thx. . . .maybe I'll pretend that I speak Portuguese, and thus we must communicate with our "broken" English.:D

powerclown 06-07-2006 09:13 AM

Sounds like a plan...a few adult beverages to bridge the language barrier, and you are IN. "Oooooh, I jeeest looove your sexxeee ahc-cent, madp!" :D

***
Back on track:

Williams-Lexus?

Quote:

Sources are indicating that the much-vaunted deal for Williams to run with Toyota power from 2007 on is now reality.

A report on ‘Autosport.com’ confirms what the paddock has believed for so long, and ventures that the deal is for two years, with an option to continue.

It is known that negotiations have been ongoing for some time now, and understood that the final agreement was made on the weekend of the Monaco Grand Prix.

Williams’ lengthy deliberation on whether to swap from Cosworth to Toyota has most likely been decided on the basis that at manufacturer supported engine programme is the way ahead, although team sources did express their satisfaction with the ‘private’ V8 so far this season.

"Cosworth's performance on the budget they have is remarkable," remarked a source close to Williams.

Frank Williams explained earlier in the season his criteria for an engine supply in 2007:

"The engine choice is both technical and commercial. Who has got the best chance of winning, versus what else comes with the engine?"

It is not yet confirmed whether to engine will be badged a ‘Toyota’ or, as strong rumours have it, the marques luxury ‘Lexus’ brand.

Williams’s decision almost certainly means the Midland team, currently using the Japanese power plant, will need to source a new engine supply for 2007.

An official announcement is expected around the time of the Candian Grand Prix.

This is pretty exciting. Williams have been running very well this year on garden-variety Cosworth engines...Toyota works engines could put them back on top. Time for a world champion to be back driving again for Williams F1.

Craven Morehead 06-27-2006 10:15 AM

USGP on Sunday. If you've ever considered going, do it this year. Two reasons why:
1. Michelin gave away two sets of tickets to each ticketholder that renewed at least two tickets. This year is a buyers market. Tickets galore, maybe at less than track price.
2. This may very well be the last year at Indy. Last year of the contract and Bernie's not sounding too optimistic about returning. Although I suspect its a negotiating ploy.

Really, if you've ever wanted to see the F1 circus, this weekend presents your best chance ever. And camping's cheap at the Coke lot, just a short walk away.

If you have questions, post them here or pm me.


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