Girls, What bothers you the most about guys?
 

Sorry if this is a repost, I didnt know what to search for. Im interested in knowing what each of you girls finds to be the most annoying about guys in general.... things we can avoid doing.

lying. If you say you're going to do something, DO IT. If you say you won't do something again, DON'T. Remember promises. Don't hide things just cuz you think you'll be in trouble, just tell us. I promise it'll be easier to deal with that way than having your girl find out. Do nice things for us. The simple things usually mean the most. Do something sweet for her to find when she gets home from work. Instead of watching her do dishes, have her sit down and relax while you do them sometimes. Pick up after yourself. We are not your maids. We do not intend to BE your maids. And we like to live in clean environments. Do not keep us from our friends, whether they be guys or girls. Trust begets trust. We are not your mother. Do not expect us to act like her. Do not talk down to us, do not joke about us being fat. Try to use tact when/if you have a touchy subject to bring up. Don't accuse. Don't assume. COMMUNICATE.

I know this is pretty general and not all guys are like this, but you
asked a very general question. This will go for guys and girls, IMHO

Re: Girls, What bothers you the most about guys?
 

I wouldn't avoid doing anything. Their are to many rules in this world already.

I see this more in a certain age group of men rather than all men.. however, that because I am female, I can't possibly know more about something than they do.

A good female friend of mine told me one to add.. she's not on this forum... She said she hates it when guys rub their cock on her when their horny..

personally, I've never done this.

-Making false promises- like saying he'll take me somewhere nice for dinner to make up for something...and then he never does until I harass him.
-Ignoring me when I'm really depressed.
-Picking at my pimples!! :(

This it? O_o

I hope the fact that I have more "bothers" than the rest of the ladies do is cuz of my age... otherwise.. jeeesh, I ama bitter old shrew...

a backwards baseball cap, t-shirt and scruffy, saggy in the butt jeans, while an absolutely adorable look on Saturday afternoon, Dinner out, requires a little more thought in to wardrobe choices.

If I offer a suggestion about anything, it's not because I'm dissatisfied with you and am trying to change you.

When you answer a question repeating my question back to me, that's generally a dead giveaway that a lie is coming, don't give me attitude when I raise an eyebrow.

I'm not a fashionista, but yes, I do need 4 different coats, they each serve different purpose.

I'm not a real girlie girl, but eyebrows are m y thing, if I want to spend 8 dollars every 6 weeks to have my eyebrows waxed, that's my business. If I want to have my gray hair taken care of every 8 weeks, that's my business.

Maleficent has a good point about the going out to dinner thing. I'm a guy and I am constantly amazed, dissapointed, and disgusted by my gender in regards to this. When I take my fiance' out to a decent restaurant and see other couples the girls are nicely dressed but often the guys have a ball cap on backwards (I'll never understand the backwards cap thing, it looks silly) a t-shirt and maybe even shorts and ratty shoes. For the love of God, you're paying for a nice meal, you're with the one you love, (or at least the one you want the good lovin' from) and you look like you should be digging a ditch. Shame. If you must dress like a slob at least take the hat off inside, thats just common courtesy.

Looking vs Leering
There's a difference.
I'm secure. Well most of the time anyhow.
Look all you want to. Glance away at all the sweet young things, I don't care, really. Heck, I'll even point them out (I probably have better taste than you anyhow) But tongue hanging out leering, is not acceptable and you will get a smack upside the head. She's a person, with feelings, and not a piece of meat dammit.
OK, I feel better.

OMFG I just wrote this REALLY LONG thing and somehow it got deleted. I am so pissed right now....argh....
Maybe I'll rewrite it later.

Bah, I can't remember half of what I typed before but I'm typing up as much of it as I can remember

Some of this stuff will be shockingly obvious. But...most of these things are not rare, so I thought I might as well let you guys know how very, very annoying they are.

1. Don't stare at a girl like a piece of meat -- As Maleficient said, there's a huge difference between appreciative glances and staring at a girl like you're a dog with a piece of raw meat danging in front of you. I have to admit, it's nice and flattering to have a guy glance at you a few times and maybe even smile....but it's disgusting when a guy is practically drooling as he looks at you. There's a huge difference. Learn it.

2. Don't stare at a girl when you already have a girl around your arm -- I really hate when guys do this. So much. It's disgusting. Do you think girls are flattered to see someone who can't even respect the girl he's with checking them out? I find it to be a huge turnoff. Oh yeah...and this should go without saying, but don't try to talk to the girl you're checking out when your girlfriend is trailing behind you. We can see your girlfriend. Just because you want her to be invisible, doesn't mean she is.

3. Don't comment on her body -- If you're staring at a girl like a piece of meat, she probably already knows that to you, she's got nice a nice ass/tits/boobs/whatever. You don't need to tell her. It's tacky and it will only add to your nastiness factor....oh yeah, and this goes for turning to your guy friend(s) as she passes by and saying "look at the ass on that girl!"

4. Don't use bad, cliched and stupid pickup lines - Just don't do it. It's a joke. If you want to talk to a girl, you can just talk to her like you would any other human being. As stated above, commenting on her body parts or drooling over her breasts as you talk to her isn't going to get you anywhere. Saying "How you doin'" will most likely get a roll of the eyes and "Hey baby!", while an okay greeting for your girlfriend, isn't so great for that girl walking down the street. Especially if it's delivered while staring at her breasts (I'm sorry, but yes, I do feel the need to repeat this over and over again). Oh yeah, and while not exactly pickup lines, barking at a girl like a dog is NOT sexy. Neither is smooching in her direction as she walks by.

5. Don't dress like a slob -- This has been stated...but here I'm not even talking about baseball caps (even though they do look stupid backwards) or ripped jeans or a sort of stylized messyness. I'm talking about wearing clothes that don't fit, no name brand white tennis shoes, and things that scream "cheap". No...you don't have to spend $70 on a pair of pants...but you should be willing to spend at least $30. You should know what size you wear. I don't want to see your socks when you're walking around....and I don't want to see your boxers/butt either. That's not to say your pants should be so big that you look like a clown. Just look somewhat presentable and it will do wonders for you.

6. Complementing other girls doesn't mean you have to make yourself seem like a dumbass -- It's okay to complement that girl you're going after, but keep in mind that you're trying to IMPRESS the girl, not make her think she's better than you. As an example, here's a dialogue I had a few weeks ago with a guy:
Guy: "Wow! That's a big book! How long does it take you to read something like that?"
Me: "Oh, I don't know...two weeks?"
Guy: "That's impressive! 'Cause when I go to the bookstore, I just get so intimidated by books like that!"

Do you see what I mean? Not impressive.


7. Don't be uptight and anal - I don't know about other girls but I think it's the hugest turnoff when a guy gets so uptight about everything he owns. For example...if he brings you into his house and has to rearrange the rug every time you step on it...it's just not good. The girl (and most people) won't notice or care if the rug is a little bit ruffled. It's just annoying when they have to worry about every little thing they do when they're at your house.

8. Don't brag -- It makes you seem desperate and insecure - like you're trying way too hard. Don't pick up heavy objects and tell her how much they weigh. Don't tell her how much everything in your apartment is worth. If she likes how your apartment looks or admires your big arms, she'll be impressed. She won't need you to point them out to her.


And this last thing...It's more of a personal thing. Maybe other girls don't mind it that much. But here it goes:
8. I hate it when men who are clearly 20+ years older than me approach me. If they were good looking and confident, I might not mind...but more often than not, they're either these wimpy little pasty guys or they're just nasty and out of shape. And....more often than not, they do one of the things above. I amost find it insulting. A lot of times after one of these encounters, I'll find myself walking away almost angry or wondering why he thought that I was in his league. This is going to sound incredibely bitchy...but if you know you're out of shape/ugly, 40+ years old, and haven't had a long term relationship since college, maybe you should stop hitting on 20 year olds and start trying to get someone in your league.

From what I've learned which isn't much :lol: I'd have to say that everyone is going to do something annoying to somebody at some point. This being said..when you find that special person..their faults and annoying habits..become beautiful pieces of their soul that attracts you even more :D

Your joking, right???
Those endearing little faults and habits, after about, oh, say, 20 years, turn into big pain in the ass annoyances that completely turn one off!!! If you don't like what he/she's doing now, trust me, you're gonna blow a gasket over it later.

Disclaimer; This is not an attack on this poster, it is a response to something I felt needed addressing.

A tad too agresive there.

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Actually Trisk, that comment was aimed at Holo.

Your right, I may have been a little bit too aggressive on some of my points but...most women *will* tell you that confidence is one of the most attractive things in a man. "Nice guys" always complain that they don't get the girls....and people always respond with "well that's because most people who call themselves nice guys lack confidence."
All I'm saying here is that you don't have to be an asshole or a "bad boy" to get the girls. Just show some confidence, be curteous, and try not to make yourself look like an ass.

I have liked guys that aren't considered "hotties" by most people...but I find it funny that a guy is telling me to stop caring about what men look like. Girls are the ones always saying that to men. Girls are the ones put in video games with basically no clothes on. Girls in pretty much no clothing are everywhere. In relationships, you're not only looking for a companion. You're looking for a sexual partner. I find it very hard to be aroused by someone who's body does not appeal to me. I work hard to look how I look....what would appeal to me about a man who couldn't do the same?
While I don't want guys to look at me like a piece of meat, that doesn't mean I don't expect them to like my body as a huge part of my appealing factor. But it's unseemly to stare at a girl and drool. Just because you enjoy your filet mignon doesn't mean you're going to sit there, pick it up with your hands, and gobble it down with your mouth opened.


I dunno...like I said, I did get a bit aggressive there...but I think you were picking apart what I said too much. A guy basically saying he can't read isn't going to impress anyone. I understand that it's hard to know exactly what to do and when....but there are some things you should clearly not do.
Even though you have said I might be a little bit harsh, you didn't say that I was wrong and that those things weren't annoying at all. So I think my point was taken. This isn't the "what makes you never want to talk to a person again" thread...it's the "what bothers you about men" thread. I said what bothered me. That's it. Not everyone has to agree with me. But it's not going to change because someone said they're a little bit harsh.


*edit* And the becoming friends with random people who approach me thing doesn't exactly work. It's hard to be friends with a guy who's wanted to get into your pants from the moment he met you. In my experience, relationships like don't usually end well.
And when you're in a city full of people and you're approached probably 10 times a day during your normal activities, you can't just stop and chat and try to be friends with every guy you meet. Eventually, you just start to avoid certain things.
However...provided the guy is comes up to me in, let's say, a bookstore (and not in the middle of the street when I'm in a hurry) and initiates a conversation...I won't just get up and walk away. I will usually sit there and chat for a bit and not take it any further if I'm not interested. Despite what I sound like here, I'm not a complete bitch to every guy I come across.

I totally agree with Holo on that last one

touche' Trisk, and I agree with you on some of your points, but here's a question: when would you consider a guy? (part of my problem is simply finding women decent enough *personality wise and yes, I do mean in appearances a bit as well* to even approach) How would you rather one approach you?

Everyone has their own annoyances, and she's just stating hers.. No need to jmup all over her.

Having said that, I do agree with Holo in that many guys use up all of their reserve courage just to initiate conversation.

Props to Holo. I totally agree with everything he said and, on a side note...

A mandatory $30 for jeans?! I don't think I've EVER paid that much for a pair of pants in my life that were not meant to be worn with a suit or tuxedo. Come on now, why does it matter if the clothes are inexpensive, just so long as they look good on him? We all can't be spending our weekly incomes on pieces of fabric (and yes, that's all clothes are to me - stuff to keep me from indency). To be honest with you - I feel just as secure - and look just as good - in a $12 button down black shirt and $16 khaki pants as in many $500 suits. It's all about wearing what's best for you.

Three little words....

"Did you cum?"

Darlin' if you have to ask... I think there's a tiny problem...

But points for the concern...

I have been told by some women that what drives them nuts about some men is that most men are dense, thick-headed, and to a degree, clueless when it comes to some of the cues and "green lights" that women give them.

That goes hand in hand with the guys "head games" complaint.

Just say what you want... Women know that men are sometimes, while adorable, as dumb as a box of rocks, they need to be told...

What is obvious to you isn't obvious to us. That doesn't mean men are "as dumb as a box of rocks."

Spitting.

I forgot the smilie - I said that with a great deal of affection :)

but rather tha playing games - and hinting around - just say what you want already ( A colleague drives me nuts because she complains that her boyfriend never brings her flowers, when I asked her if she asked him to , she said, no, he should just know.)

These are the three things in this thread that I, being male, would not dispute under any circumstances (unless I'm spitting out a bug that flew into my mouth, in which case there's probably bigger concerns at hand than worrying about annoying people aorund me by spitting.)

*sigh* I'm not saying it's manditory. I just figured that since it seems to be a pretty normal price for jeans, it was a good price to quote. I've spent $40-50 on jeans that fit me well just because I know that I get the best use out of jeans that I like. However...I've been to outlet malls where I bought jeans I liked for $20. I'm not writing these in stones people.

The point of even going over that was so people would know that you don't need to spend crazy money on clothes, but you shouldn't try to cut corners when it comes to looking presentable. You normally get what you pay for. However...if a cheap clothing line looks good on you, by all means, get it. Everyone's body is different. I have no idea where you shop but I wouldn't point any guy in the direction of, let's say, Conway or K-mart to get nice clothes. Hell, you can find some fabulous but cheap things at thrift stores. Go there if you want to. I don't care. But don't get fake leather coats and think you're fooling anyone.

I think it's useful to say exactly why that is. One woman's obvious hint could be completely innocent to another. It usually takes a long time to know exactly where a particular woman's boundaries are. And we're usually afraid of taking things the wrong way and hurting you :).

Sheesh, just goes to show it's different for everyone. Both of my ex's loved that, they'd jump on me immediately if we were at home- in public, who knows what would happen. Instant 110% horniness from them. Awesome. ;)

Guys, we have our own thread. I know these issues have to be dealt with but how about letting the ladies lay some more on the table before jumping all over them. At the moment the ratio of complaints betweent the two threads is 10:1.

ha ha h ahahahahahahahah........heheheheheheheh LMAO!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well Put!

Sorry, wrote another book. :o

Male looking syndrome: the inability to locate objects in plain view.

I wish that guys wouldn't assume that we're mad just because we're being quiet. When I'm quiet it just means I'm not interested in talking right now. I also hate when guys think that girls are less superior because we're girls. For the most part, girls can do just about anything guys can do, we're not wimps.

Dirty underwear on the floor...thinking fart jokes are funny..they're not!

Their inablity to make commitments.

Awwwwww.... come on.... fart jokes are hysterical.... the first time anyhow -- :)

Hahaha. this is actually my chief complaint about women!!

Bleh, that outlook is not cool.

If you're with someone for a long time, and you're STILL asking then, ok maybe that's a problem, but otherwise, you should be happy the guy just didn't roll over and didn't care wether you got yours. Ladies, now if you're living together or married... I tend to agree that the issue should have already come up and the guy should know... otherwise:

Sometimes it's not exactly obvious that the girl has an orgasm. I dated a girl for a while that wasn't a moaner and she would basically just shut her eyes and hold her breath without even a whimper. She swore she was having mind numbing orgasms and that she occasionally would almost black out. When we first started, I had no idea whether she was or wasn't, until I knew her better. Of course I asked, becuase I cared. Another girl I've dated made so much noise and moaned so often, it was hard to tell which one was the one!

Girls ALWAYS complain about lack of communication in the bedroom, well it's because of pretenses like this that say the man should automatically know exactly how to please you and if they don't, well "Darlin' if you have to ask...."

Basically, I'm sorry, but if you don't get off in an obvious manner (I.E. noise of some type that is different or more intense than the OTHER noises you make) then you'll need to excuse the guys asking for at least a while. And you should be friggin happy the guy is 1. concerned enough to ask 2. has the courage to ask because 3. if you didn't, that means he wanted you to, and will do what it takes to get you there HINT HINT HINT.

This is a pretty long winded rant about one simple question, but jeeze, it's annoying to see such a two-faced approach to the issue. Communication in the bedroom is a GOOD thing (tm).

I disagree, most women I have ever known in the carnal sense really like this, in fact, most even like when you rub your cock on their face.

OK... So I won't get all uptight about leaving the seat up. I can check first and put the seat down myself.

But...

It's a pretty big target you are aiming for.... Is it really that hard to not miss? And is it that hard to NOT clean up after yourself?

Some of these seem kinda silly and trivial..

For instance, "Did you cum?" Let me get this straight, if you're with a guy you completely love and adore, and of all the things there are to be annoyed/upset over, "Did you cum?" is one of them?! Jeez..

Eh heh, i've done this. I don't do it on purpose, but when you're dancing w/ a girl and :ahem: thoughts just enter your head, it's kinda hard to, well, not stay hard.

I try to shift the girls backs against my leg though. ;)

OOOOH -- Trivializing something I have said.

If it's important to me - -then it's important...
:D

We're economically minded, we don't want to waste any more paper than absolutely necessary ;)

And it is that hard to not miss... We don't have no standardised hole that has been cut out to perfection. So it's not a straight stream (the dreaded V-pee comes to mind ) And there are all sorts of spatter that can occur, bouncing back from inside on the seat.

I ask because 1) I am not always sure, Out of all the women I have slept with only two of them have ever said "DON'T STOP I'M COMING" The others I dind't know. 2) because I care and I want you to have as much fun as I am. I understand that if everything is magical you should come at the same time but I dont' always know and I like to communicate so if I need to I can slow down or do something different.

Buuuut, to each his own.

I've had this discussion with my fiancee before. Now, how hard is it to hit something at point-blank range? Now, a toilet only comes a little bit lower then my kneecaps, and much to my dismay, I'm not hung like a horse(:p)so I'm not hanging right over the toilet. Now generally when have an errant spray, I'll clean it up unless it's 3 in the morning when I don't give a crap about much except going back to bed.

Don't pass the blame off on us girls if you guys have trouble finding one you like. There's plenty of reasons for that.

1. Your too picky.
2. You've got personality hangups.
3. Your too shy.
4. Your too aggressive. (I know these sound like opposites but you gotta strike a happy medium. Approach us, ASK us and if we say no, LEAVE us ALONE.)
5. You don't take any care of your appearance. I know appearances aren't everything but if you're at a party, eating like a pig, or out at a bar and you're smelly, then it's a turn off.
6. You're looking in the wrong places. You're not going to find a NICE girl, walking the streets selling her ass, ya know. Get involved in community efforts.
7. You just act way too damned desperate. That alone is a turnoff.

Just don't blame women if you can't find one you like. If you can't find a 4 leaf clover it's not the clover's fault.

I can sympathize with the men on this one. I tried (funny story) to hold my boyfriends penis while he was peeing once and it was harder than it looks. It got EVERYWHERE. So yeah... thats my funny story for the day.

Back on topic: I hate the way that they HAVE to do things for you. It's like an uncontrollabe urge to do something nice but just ends up looking very controlling. An example, my brother just got married and we were at their going away BBQ. She wanted to go inside and call a coworker to see if she were coming. My mom tells her the number and so she's repeating it to herself to keep herself from forgetting it. My brother whips out his handy dandy cel phone and starts to call her so Jess doesn't have to do it herself.

From re reading it, it doesn't sound like a big deal but that kind of stuff is annoying.

1. When they take you for granted, the little things you'd be willing to do in a heartbeat but they don't appreciate it, or even acknowledge it.

2. When they expect YOU to always look after planning things, sometimes i dont want to think, i just want to be taken out for the night.

3. Expecting us to always be able to read their minds or feelings. I know it sounds like a female thing, but seriously, sometimes i just want to be told where they're at in the stage of things.

4. Male indecisiveness. I hate making decisions for a good chunk of the time.

5. Lack of ability to make a genuine compliment with no ulterior motives. I'll believe it when i see it. This includes wiping out cheesey pickup lines.

6. --> This one is for a certain breed of gentlemen in particular and it hits home to me personally. Assuming that just because a female is a little crazy in the bedroom, or likes things a bit more wild or 'out there' (ie exhibition pictures etc)... DOES NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES mean that she's going to spread her legs to everyone and their dog, or show pics to anyone who asks, or take requests or be easy. BAH. It's more than slightly frustrating to say the least. A girl can be a freak in the bedroom, doesn't make her any less of a lady for the rest of her existance...[/rant]

The "Guys, what bothers you most about girls?"-thread.

And so you came into the exact same type of thread and posted about it?

Uhm, so the ladies can list those things, but the guys can't? :)

I think both are pretty awesome threads.

That's a tough one.

I'm sure plenty of guys just compliment ladies just to get in the sack and what not.

But seriously, some of the first relationship advice men and women both give to younger men is to always compliment the lady. Try watching a sitcom about a boy meets girl situation and not have that advice come up!

Men compliment ladies because they respond to it so well. Ladies with baggage (who have been burned by a guy that is charming aka slings the compliments out) tend to have your point of view. Not saying you have baggage, just saying that it's probably one or two guy's fault for making you think like that.

If a man compliments you, please don't automatically think it has an alterior motive. I promise you, 90% of the time, they are seriously just trying to break the ice, or trying to provoke that bright eyed smile we love so much.

I don't automatically think this way, but i've been burned the last couple 'o times because i'm silly and naive and sometimes forget to think things through. I thought i could judge when it was genuine, but blew that lol. No biggie *Shrugs* :)

It's true, we can cetainly be "dumb as rocks." But I think both sexes have it wrong when we can't just be more upfront about what we want. Otherwise don't we both go home unsure and unhappy?

1. They expect you to wear sexy underwear all the time. Sexy underwear typically means I'm being molested by my own underwear which isn't fun. I wear thongs/g-strings when I have clothing that would show a pantyline. I'm not going to be molested by my underwear while I sleep because a guy thinks it's hot.

2. "I'll call you later" - When I say that, I mean later that day. If you don't intend to call me that day, say "I'll call you tomorrow... next week, or whatever." For gods sake is it so hard to specify a time!?

Those are my two biggest peeves, sure I have more but if those two things could be fixed I might be able to get along with males on a regular
basis. ;)

Every person has a different opinion about what they dislike, and most of those come from personal experiences. Mine is simple. I can deal with guys odd behavior (scratching themselves, drinking 17 shots until you pass out into a drunken stupor because your friend 'wango' dared you to, etc) just fine, but the one thing i've always hated is for a man to put his girlfriend/significant other last on his list of important things. No guy should have to go overboard and buy his SO flowers all the time and shower her with compliments at every waking moment, but letting the girl know she is appreciated every once in a while is never a bad thing :)

Now this one made me laugh...:lol: Yup...there's a problem.

Maybe not, but it helps :D

It's because guys who arn't assholes or bad boys and are nice guys usually act like girls, and what girl wants to become involved with someone who acts like they do. You girls know you're narotic, needy, always have to be right, get emotional when your wrong, and can get absurdly irrational. So you want a man not a woman, because that’s what makes relationships work.

Millions of years of evolution don't usually fuck that stuff up, however doing away with survival of the fittest does.

Ok, that's fucking hot and it's giving me wood just to think about.

I can't believe how much more criticism and rebuttals there are in this thread than the one about women. What's up with that?

It bothers me when guys yell out things at me like "Hey baby" or "Suck me!" Since any idiot would know this is not going to get results, I can only take it as a form of harrassment. And then they complain that women are bitchy. It bothers me when guys don't talk to me like I'm a person and just come at me with pickup lines. A "real" approach will get you 100 times farther than cheesy canned lines. And it bothers me when guys who should be able to tell there's no chance of getting together with me try to pick up on me. I mean, if you're a 55-year-old street bum, you must know I'm not going to want to jump in the sack. So to me it's just more harrassment. And guys who are obviously married, like when I'm sitting in their office with pictures of their wife and kids and they're asking me out. Do I look like a whore?

Guys, I appreciate the difficulty of trying to hook up with women, trying to figure out if they're interested or not, working up the nerve to talk to someone. But I'm not talking about a respectful and sincere attempt, which is always flattering and can be handled politely. I'm talking about some stranger on the street going, "Nice tits!" when I walk by. Or even, "Hey beautiful" or something, if it's yelled at you on the street, it's harassment. Men who get touchy on this topic should understand that it's hard to deal with this all day. If you've ever had to rebuff unwanted advances from someone you found offensive, think about what that was like, then multiply by several hundred and you might find yourself getting a little reactionary too.

There's other things that bother me but I'm tired of ranting. :)

Yeah, that's a bitch. Just appreciate more the ones that don't act like assholes I guess.

I like men, I really do! But they still do weird things (although so do women...).

When I am at work, both men and women say I charge too much, but it's only men who get ANGRY about it. Excuse me, I'm just the ticket girl, yelling won't change the price!

I love getting flirted with, but I HATE catcalls and leers. I deliberately wear shapeless and boring clothes to avoid this and men STILL ask me to show them my tits. What about me could possibly interest them in my tits? You can barely even tell I HAVE them!

I know men are horny, and it's actually really endearing, but it is NOT an excuse to break basic rules in a relationship. I'm talking about the times when a man begs, demands, or forces sex. Yeah, women do it sometimes, but it's like 1% of the time. I'm surprised no one has mentioned this. *coughRAPEcough*

Some of this solves itself over time. I have to agree with the guy about the "Did you cum?" question. It is so hard to broach this subject with women during the act itself unless you are really comfortable with each other. It would be a whole bunch easier if both people would just talk during sex.

As to the confidence issue, it took me years to get the whole relaxed approach down. It partially comes from having a strong marriage and feeling comfortable. The other day, I was in an airport lounge for a couple of hours prior to a flight. There was a young woman reading a book next to me. I asked her what she was reading, and we ended up talking around 3 hours (while waiting and during the flight). She was a stewardess that was returning from vacation, so she gets hit on all the time. I told her I was married right from the beginning so that there would be no pressure and no thoughts on her part that I was in any way doing it. I was flirting of course and so was she (she touched my shoulder several times during the conversation). I walked off that flight feeling very good about myself and just a bit smitten. Of course nothing would happen, but it is moments like this when you connect with other people that really make life nice.

I don't know if this is a general thing for most guys, but for me what I hate the most in guys is when they ignore you. Like when you are so frustrated with something and you just want to talk and lay things out in the open, guys can just turn off and pretend it's not happening to them. And then they think they can go away and leave it and then come back and it's ok, when really all they've done is leave whatever was bugging her, to fester, quietly seething. What's so difficult about talking? In the end if you don't talk, then resentments grow and it's worse overall. Maybe I'm just ranting, I don't know.

Anybody else out there know what I'm talking about?

Also when they pretend they're listening to you when really they're concentrating on the formula one/comupter game/the paper/anything but you...

I think someone else already said here that another pet peeve is always being last on a guy's list of priorities...ditto

The thing that bothers me and this goes for both sexes,but mainly men, is appearance, dressing nice,and SMELLING GOOD (NO...I REPEAT..NO BODY ODOR)
You don't have to jump into the vat of cologne, just a little dab will do.

you know how hateful and horrible we are? there were four threads.. the other two were "what do you love most about guys/girls" yet only the *bothers you most* ones were brought back.. lol

I agree with what you say. It bugs me so much, even if its not being said to me, but to other girls, cause it IS harassment, and really innapropriate. Also, the opposite applies to me, when a guy yells out insults. For example, last week two of my girl friends went out for coffee to catch up. We later go outside and sit on a bench and chat away. Across the street are a couple of drinking assholes sitting outside a pizza parlor. We just ignore their rowdyness like we would anyday in school. A few minutes later, they get in a car and speed away like morons. As they pass by us, some asshole in the back seat yells out "UGLY UGLY UGLY!!" My other friends were talking as he yelled out, but I heard it loud and clear. *fumes* Ugh, I just HATE that.

Same here Acetylene...same here..

I suppose the reason why I've never been in an actual relationship with a guy is because of all of the bad interactions I've had with them. Occasionally, I'll get to know one that is just great, but as a friend. I'm usually not attracted to them...usually. The guys that have crossed my path in majority I suppose have just created an overall dislike for the testosterone-fed gender. Who knows when I'll get over this. :confused:

With respect to the catcalls, I have to get something off of my chest. For two summers as an undergraduate, I worked in construction. Although I had never done so before, and have not done so since, once I put that hard hat on, I turned into the catcalling bastard. So did my partner. I don't know what the hell, but we would yell stuff like "Hey baby!" to girls at bus stops and stuff. We didn't even slow down, so if that method was ever going to work, we would never find out. I guess it was just funny. My all time favorite response was from a girl reading a book who flicked us off, and kept that finger pointed towards our truck while we drove past without looking up. :thumbsup: