If everyone could see pussy...

[skier]

Just some thoughts of mine if people didn't wear clothes down there. I'm thinking we see beauty and ugliness in faces because of our constant appraisal of them. We see each other's faces all the time, and we compare through symmetry, bone structure, and fleshiness. If men saw vaginas all the time, would we do the same thing for them?

Would we think some cunts are prettier than others?
Maybe some twats would be considered *gasp* ugly?
Would some have wacky hairstyles for shock value?
Would men be able to maintain eye contact at all?

For the women, if you saw penis ALL the time...

Would you think some dicks are more handsome than others?
Would you judge based on length, and girth?
Would you mock those with ugly cocks?
Would men dye their hair down there to maintain the appearance of "youth", like they do with their beards and hair?

And do ya think that we would see more piercings and tattoos on the genitals in general?

haha just some things to ponder.

[la petite moi]

There already are all these things. There are piercings and people dye their pubes and trim them and shave them.

Some call some pussies loose, others tight. Some rate guys on how big or long (or whatever crap we can think of) their penises are.

That already is happening.

[Mister B]

I've gotten with a fair share of women as well as look at so much porn I notice pretty vaginas as opposed to ugly ones. Pretty ones have uniform skin tone around the whole area, don't have a load of stubble and razor burn, and I'm a big fan of a slight camel toe.

I think most men can distinguish beauty in pussy, but most guys penises just really don't care when your hitting it from behind. Me being one.

They are all warm and juicy on the inside

[skier]

la petite moi, I'm not asking really IF this would happen, i'm asking if we woud see MORE piercing and if there would be "fads" for pubic hairstyles, including dying, putting gel in it, etc. If there would be a social hierarchy based on the looks on your genitals, along with your face and other body areas.

[jRuntlets]

gel?! That's asking for a infection of some type if your a woman. :P

[Dilbert1234567]

all pussies are beautiful in their own way.

[Rlyss]

skier I know what you're asking here. Yes, all vaginas are beautiful in their own way but I think skier is asking for some more elaborate responses.

I think I've got two theories on this.

Our face is naturally the most unique part of our bodies, I think. Humans are adapted to recognize a human face from among other human faces. Just like we can't really distinguish one monkey from other monkeys, I'll bet they can't tell us apart! But I think that (modern?) Western society often feels compelled to 'dress up' our bodies as an extension of our faces. We know we all look unique enough to tell each other apart, but the desire to be part of a group is equally matched by the desire to stand out somewhat, and be noticed.

I think we dress up our bodies because our faces are already unique enough. (This isn't taking into account people with facial tattoos and piercings, etc.) Our bodies are a lot harder to tell apart than our faces are, thus we dress up with clothes, tattoos, etc. to show our 'individuality'. We don't go all our to make our skin look different is because we need clothes to say warm and protected.

So if we are going to ask whether we'd dress up our genitals like we do our face and our hair, and unlike how we don't much dress up our hands, or toes, or thighs. Are our genitals more like our faces (unique, central to who we are, and central to identity), or like our feet (everyone has them, beautiful in their own way but not exactly key parts of our identity as individuals)?

After that bit of fluff...

I think that most of us would do something to accent our genitals, or to claim some uniqueness. We all do something with our hair, most of use wear some sort of jewellery or make-up, we might use gel or moisturizer or fancy hair-care products, so I see no reason why we wouldn't do it with our genitals too.

And we do put jewellery on our hands and feet, too, so if we consider the genitals as more like the hands and feet than the face and hair, then my point still stands I think. Think of cultures which don't use clothes or shoes to the extent we do - they are often adorned with tattoos and henna and piercings in places we aren't, because we have clothes on.

I think most cultures cover up their genitals for modesty reasons, or perhaps for protection. The ones that don't just hide them, but use jewellery to adorn them (yet still keep the skin, etc. out of sight) and exaggerate them and emphasize them, like horns etc.

Yap yap yap...

[Tuffy_McGee]

x-ray vision glasses. Yours today.

[SixEdxMia]

*** tips her glass to Dorito2***

[stevie667]

Originally posted by Dorito2
Our face is naturally the most unique part of our bodies, I think. Humans are adapted to recognize a human face from among other human faces. Just like we can't really distinguish one monkey from other monkeys, I'll bet they can't tell us apart!

sorry for the threadjack, but human babies can actually recognise different monkey faces up to about 6 months, from which the ability rapidly deteriorates.

now, on topic, i think that if society was created in a way that showed genitials all the time, and was considered the social norm, then you'd have the same variances you'd have in hair styles and peoples choices of make up/facial peircings e.t.c.
it's not something you can properly think about in todays society because genetalia are still somewhat of a taboo in most cultures, so thoughts are biased slightly.
but if you think about it, if somethings on show all the time, you make it change to suit your own personality, whether you grow your hair long (a la scary movie catwalk show), trim short, get peircings e.t.c.
it would be a mirror of the trends on the face IMO.

[Yakk]

Originally posted by Dorito2
Our face is naturally the most unique part of our bodies, I think. Humans are adapted to recognize a human face from among other human faces.

The disorders that make people face-blind are interesting.

First, there is a part of our visual cortex that detects "face-like" things. It then shunts the "face-information" over to our special-purpose "face-processing" part of our brain. Everything else goes to general pattern recognition, which isn't nearly as good.

So, normal people use a special purpose part of the brain to identify faces. We see more in the face than we do elsewhere, it isn't just practice, it's hard-wired.

Face-blindness is a somewhat rare condition. There are two kinds.

The first kind of face-blindness is a problem with the "face-shunt". Basically, faces get sent to the general pattern recognition. They see faces as nothing special: they are as likely to recognize you by your hands, your clothes, your hair, as they are by your face.

The second kind of face-blindness is even wierder. The "face-shunt" works fine, but the special purpose "face-processor" doesn't. So, whenever you see a face, it gets shunted off into ... a broken system. Not only don't they have the special face-skills the rest of us do, they can't even use general pattern recognition on it. Face-like structures don't get recognized. These people cannot recognize you based on your face, period: it is as if you had a blank mask on.

I believe the first kind is more common than the second.

[elfstar]

There's a really interesting BBC documentary series hosted by John Cleese (and featuring Elizabeth Hurley). In particular, one of the issues it covers is the face-blindness mentioned by Yakk.

Here is a link to the imdb page:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0280262/

And here is the description I borrowed from Netflix (it's more detailed than the imdb description):

A year in the making, this unique miniseries has been hailed as the definitive guide to the human face. Combining comedy sketches with serious interviews, this innovative exploration of the human face is conveyed in simple -- yet interesting -- terms. These four episodes examine the face from every angle - cultural, historical, biological, physiological and psychological - in John Cleese's light but insightful manner.

[Wolph]

You act like this doesn't happen. Two places that I have been that lots of people are nekid alot are a nude beach in Maui and Burningman. And yes all those things happen lots of piercings male and female, and artistic shaving with color.
The strangest thing about it is how quickly it becomes no big deal. I spent many years in maui and little beach was my favorite because of the perfect boogie boarding but it was a nude beach. After awhile you start noticing that the girls with swim suits are more atractive because of the mistery. And my wife the first time she went to burningman with me was like OMG penis everywhere but after her 300th naked guy was barely even noticing anymore.

[ruggerp11]

I would mohawk, with a penis gourd. Hands down penis gourd.

[skier]

Wolph, i live in Alberta, Canada. There isn't a nude beach (officially) at all in all of alberta. There are two small private nude clubs, one family oriented.

I have never been to a nude beach, I don't see many public displays of nudity other than the odd concert or exhibitionist. What you're describing (with the pubic, dyed hairstyles) I'm only theorising about. Obiviously you live in an area where nudity taboos are a lot more lax than where I live. It's not like I'm acting like it doesn't happen at all- I have a piercing myself- but what i'm trying to say is that would we begin to see genitals in the same light that we would see facial features, which Dorito did an incredible job of getting across better than I could.

[Slauncha Man]

How, pray tell, do you have a family-oriented nude club?

[skier]

*shrugs*
that's what they tell me.
http://www.sunnychinooks.com/

[MSD]

Imagine a society in which pants did not exist and undergarments were a thing of the past. With our intimate parts constantly exposed, there would be many a change. In addition to holding our heads high, men would be holding their hips forward to maximize the visual impact or their organs.

Chapped lips, dry hands, scaly skin, all come from exposure to the elements. With weather exposure comes thick skin and lack of sensation. What a sad world it would be if people started to suffer from chapped penis and wrinkled vagina from walking around. I suspect that whole new lines of products would pring up to protect our genitals from the elements. I can see the headlines now: "Make your vagina look ten years younger!" "Keep your dick as smooth and shiny as the day you were born!"

In the summer months, all sorts of hairstyles would spring up. For the clean-shaven, shiny, possibly blinking jewelry would be the fad. For those who chose to go au natural, dreadlocks and corn rows would gain popularity. Younger folks who aren't ready for the commitment of a piercing could buy clip-on rings and stick-on sutds in order to decorate themselves and see the shocked looks on the faces of their mortified parents.

ChapStick stock would double or triple every winter. Men would be purchasing fuzzy tube socks by the dozen every October. Women would be able to choose from a variety of coverings ersembling an umbrella with a knitted canopy. The more conservative among us would opt for old-fashioned thongs, briefs, or boxers. Heated butt plugs would keep you feeling warm and toasty inside during your long walk or drive to work.

The habit of neglecting genital hygeine would disappear. Due to exposure, any odor would be immediately noticable, and promptly attended to. Like unwashed armpits, unwashed nether regions would be frowned upon by society, members of which would not tolerate a person whose below-the-belt area emitted an unpleasant odor. Of course, odor and irritation in that region would be less of a problem, as the free airflow would whisk away bacteria-breeding moisture.


So, after describing our future utopia free from the tyrrany of the clothing manufacturer, I must ask you, in the words of Homer Simpson, Don't you hate pants?

[Wolph]

Originally posted by skier
Wolph, i live in Alberta, Canada. There isn't a nude beach (officially) at all in all of alberta. There are two small private nude clubs, one family oriented.

I have never been to a nude beach, I don't see many public displays of nudity other than the odd concert or exhibitionist. What you're describing (with the pubic, dyed hairstyles) I'm only theorising about. Obiviously you live in an area where nudity taboos are a lot more lax than where I live. It's not like I'm acting like it doesn't happen at all- I have a piercing myself- but what i'm trying to say is that would we begin to see genitals in the same light that we would see facial features, which Dorito did an incredible job of getting across better than I could.

Skier, I sorta missed your point. I don't think a unmodified genital would be noticed realy unless it was different from the norm (like 13"). I asked my wife and she says. They just are not that different ,seen one seen them all. As for women the hair is realy the most noticeable thing. Even when they have jewelry , unless you get a good close look you realy don't notice.
I realy do think though that if everybody was naked all the time, genitals would only be noticed if they where different from the rest.

[raeanna74]

I do think we'd have fads that went along with our genitals. Considering that we already do things to adorn them at times. Also there is a greater amount of women AND men getting brazilian waxes or shaving more off down there. I've noticed products coming out for shaving or creams for the hair down there. I've even used conditioner when my skin all over was dry this winter. I think most definately people would show pride in their genitals and adorn them appropriately if we could see them all the time.

[Yakk]

Originally posted by Slauncha Man
How, pray tell, do you have a family-oriented nude club?

Many nudists (or naturalists) don't consider nudity sexual.

[skier]

Wolph, that kind of IS my point. When you are not exposed to genitalia 24/7, like you would a human face, you only see the largest of differences. If everyone's face were covered up all the time, would you still be able to distinguish one person's face from another? We understand very subtle facial expressions instantly, and guage feeling through them. These are minute movements in only a couple muscles in the face. I am trying to get across that if we paid another part of our bodies the same amount of attention, we would get a similar recognition.

[Dilbert1234567]

Originally posted by skier
Wolph, that kind of IS my point. When you are not exposed to genitalia 24/7, like you would a human face, you only see the largest of differences. If everyone's face were covered up all the time, would you still be able to distinguish one person's face from another? We understand very subtle facial expressions instantly, and guage feeling through them. These are minute movements in only a couple muscles in the face. I am trying to get across that if we paid another part of our bodies the same amount of attention, we would get a similar recognition.

Who is to say we need to wear cloths? Everyone is unique and everyone is beautiful, you just need to look closely, sometimes deep inside. I think you are right there may be minute movements else ware as well, although I don’t think they are nearly as advanced as in the face.

Beauty is there go and look for it.

[Yakk]

Originally posted by skier
Wolph, that kind of IS my point. When you are not exposed to genitalia 24/7, like you would a human face, you only see the largest of differences. If everyone's face were covered up all the time, would you still be able to distinguish one person's face from another? We understand very subtle facial expressions instantly, and guage feeling through them. These are minute movements in only a couple muscles in the face. I am trying to get across that if we paid another part of our bodies the same amount of attention, we would get a similar recognition.

Skier, as noted, we have hard-wired brain subsystems whose job is to analyze, recognize, and interprit faces.

Maybe you could coopt it for another part of the body, but quite possibly (I'd even say probably) not.