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orange monkeyee 11-16-2003 07:14 PM

are you cut or not ?
 
Man, i was thinking the other nite while surfing on here.
How many people on here are circumsized? I myself am not, but I got to thinking, nowadays there are no medical reasons to have guy circumsized , but the thought that part of your dick was cut off as a baby ( you had no say in the process) and was thrown into a biohazard bag and incinerated. <cringes> Maybe I think too much, but doesn't that mildly disturb you to think you had a surgery without consent that wasn't nessary?

JStrider 11-16-2003 07:22 PM

shoulda made this a poll

i am cut... as for it disturbing me...not really... its just the way it is...

as for what i would do to my boy if/when i have kids... i really have no idea... prolly not and leave it up to him...

laconic1 11-16-2003 07:26 PM

I'm cut. I have never seen my penis any other way so it doesn't bother me. Lots of cultures have done things to shape infants at one time or another, and circumcision is fairly minor compared to some of those things. If I had a boy I don't know what I would do though.

santafe5000 11-16-2003 07:42 PM

I'm bout half and half. Guess it didn't take or something. Maybe the doctor got interupted in mid cut. Doesn't seem to be a problem.

MilleniumClock 11-16-2003 07:50 PM

i'm not cut, seems like everyone i know IS, so pewp :(

but yeah, it doesn't really bother me MUCH, only on occaision, that's why i'm planning to get it cut this spring.

Enka 11-16-2003 08:08 PM

Uncut right here, and it doesnt bother me a bit.
The ladies dont seem to mind either ;)

World's King 11-16-2003 08:08 PM

I am not wearing a turtleneck sweater.

WarWagon 11-16-2003 08:12 PM

I'm cut, and wouldnt want to have the difficulties I've heard of with some guys in putting on condoms, etc etc

Sleepyjack 11-16-2003 08:23 PM

uncircumsized. Sometimes the head gets cold and needs a jumper :lol:

i really couldn't care less, if i had kids, i'd just leave them be, like my parents did to me.

Hrothgar 11-16-2003 08:30 PM

I'm cut but I had the surgery when I was 18. Best thing I ever did.

taliendo 11-16-2003 10:04 PM

I'm cut and will have my boys cut when they get here.

jvwgtr 11-17-2003 04:45 AM

I've been streamlined, yes.
I'm glad, too. My wife and I were just talking about this yesterday. She says she probably wouldn't have married me if I weren't cut...she hates the turtleneck.
Would I have switched for her? Probably.

perth1 11-17-2003 06:19 AM

i've had the chop...

its the first time my girl has ever seen a cut cock, and she prefers it cut.. sweeet! :)

jerseyboy 11-17-2003 06:20 AM

I am cut for religious reasons, and I never realized until I was older that there was any other way. I've heard of some problems with not being cut, and even knew of a guy who ripped his foreskin while having sex and had to go to the hospital. If I have kids they will be cut for religious reasons, plus if it is gonna be done anytime its probably best when they wont remember it.

hu-man 11-17-2003 06:22 AM

I'm cut - and loving it. I imagine it can get a lot wetter with precum, for some reason. Not many guys here are cut, I believe.

11-17-2003 06:30 AM

i'm cut - I've never had it any other way, so I have no basis for comparison.

Jesus Pimp 11-17-2003 06:42 AM

Uncut baby!

Dano069 11-17-2003 10:56 AM

I'm cut but my boys are not. They've asked why not and we told them, "We're not Jewish"

Seriously though, our doctor at the time didn't believe in it, my wife and I really didn't have any good reasons to do it, so, we didn't.

powder 11-17-2003 12:49 PM

I'm cut. If i'da had boys they would have been uncut.

GT3_GOD 11-17-2003 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jesus Pimp
Uncut baby!

zildjian 11-17-2003 03:36 PM

Unless there is medical reason for it what's the point? a desensitised cock could be usefull for some guys

pocon1 11-17-2003 03:36 PM

I'm cut, but I don't see the reason for one way or another. I think having a foreskin would look pretty cool, like a wild animal. Growwl. Anyways, what's done is done, but I don't know what I will do when I have boys.

Hrothgar, Why did you have the surgery, and what makes it better?

Chuckles 11-17-2003 03:42 PM

asking a question towards Hrothgar or anybody else who had it done when they were older and it was their choice, what was it like being changed afterwards? And what were the reasons for it? musta been pretty weird for along while hehe. Uncut here, dont care either.

legolas 11-17-2003 04:20 PM

I would've loved to see the poll too. Yes I am cut.

rainheart 11-17-2003 04:48 PM

My dad wanted me cut and that's how it went when I was a kid.

I'm fine with it too, it's no big deal.

"Skin or no skin?"
"I don't care, surprise me."

ledzep 11-17-2003 05:28 PM

im cut
and my kids will be too

bparker805 11-17-2003 05:41 PM

Cut with a cool story. My parents were in the piece corps. in Swaziland. I was born there and was a few days old it came time for the snipin'. To numb me up the doctor gave me a shot of brandy... My first drink and I was only a few days old! Now if I could only find that doctor and sue him for serving alcohol to a minor...

FroMan 11-17-2003 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crazybill5280
I'm cut. I have never seen my penis any other way so it doesn't bother me.
I have to agree :shrug:

Being circumsized does help, espically with cleanly ness. Supposedly reduces things like urinary trackt infections etc...

meff 11-17-2003 06:30 PM

Uncut, me.. and my wife love it.

I don't mind having the extra nerve endings and sensations :p

Ho-train 11-17-2003 07:14 PM

uncut, haven't had any problems as of yet. hope it stays that way too.

emmdubbs 11-17-2003 07:24 PM

i'm cut, it's the way i grew up knowing, chances are the kids will be that way too...

bookerV 11-17-2003 07:30 PM

uncut

i'd leave my kids uncut as well, when they are older they can chop the top if they want, but nobody is gettin near my funstuff with a knife!!

emmdubbs 11-17-2003 07:53 PM

maybe it's just a mental thing, but i dont' see getting it done when you're older, (for me at least if i wasn't) i havn't had any sort of surgery..but i'd rater be in pain and not have any recolection of it *infantcy* than be like older and knowing that the somabtich is gonna be snipped...

tisonlyi 11-17-2003 08:04 PM

Parents should be sued by their children for cutting them.

Doctors should be sued for performing the surgery.

"First do no harm."

No more shall i say.

Use the search function (top right)

jizzmasterp 11-17-2003 08:11 PM

Im uncut It makes wanking easier.

Bloodslick 11-17-2003 09:12 PM

I'm cut. If I have a male child, he won't be.

Elitegibson 11-17-2003 09:21 PM

I'm cut, and haven't had any problems. If there are medical reasons then I'm all for it. For those preaching the benefits of extra nerve endings for the uncut, I remember hearing on Loveline that Dr. Drew said that your nerve endings are already in overload at time of orgasm anyways, so having a couple hundred thousand more wouldn't do too much. You're already at the max, 10 out of 10 on the pleasure-o-meter, and 11 isn't on the scale.

GoldenOuroboros 11-17-2003 09:59 PM

I'm cut.. I dunno.. I've done some searching and found that that part of the foreskin has most of the sensory nerves in them.. But I think with my hardened penis it's able to last a little longer than if I was uncut.. I dunno.. always wondered.. lol..

Craven Morehead 11-17-2003 10:12 PM

cut - made me think about a radio commercial i just heard - will post that in a new thread

shileno 11-17-2003 10:15 PM

uncut and is all good! :)

zemon51 11-17-2003 10:16 PM

what's cut and uncut?? i dont know if mine is cut or not.. shit i'm young

Soggybagel 11-17-2003 10:28 PM

If your penis has a foreskin that I guess you could say hangs over/covers the head of your penis then you are uncircumsized. If there isn't any...well you are. Not a great explanation but I'm sure if you google you will find some good illustrations.

Also, I'm uncut

Prince 11-17-2003 11:52 PM

Nope, I wasn't butchered.

Darth_Kettch 11-18-2003 04:10 AM

Uncut. I like having all my nerve endings intact :)

dy156 11-18-2003 11:33 AM

I was circumcised, and don't appear to have any adverse side effects. My kids probably will be too, just because I was and everyone else I know is, and whatever benefits there may be in having an intact foreskin are offset by the probable impact on their psyche of kids in middle school making fun of them when they have to take showers in PE and would be different from everyone else, should they be uncircumsized.
Also, I bet it hurts alot, and if it's to be done, I'd rather them not have to have it done when they are old enough to remember pain. I think that benefit is also greater than any benefit in letting them choose.

tritium 11-18-2003 12:03 PM

Cut. Didn't know there was any other way when I was younger either...

dog1 11-18-2003 12:44 PM

unmutilated here and everything works just fine, no complaints

Marburg 11-18-2003 02:07 PM

Re: are you cut or not ?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by orange monkeyee
. . .nowadays there are no medical reasons to have guy circumsized . . .
Phimosis.


Quote:

Originally posted by Hrothgar
I'm cut but I had the surgery when I was 18. Best thing I ever did.
I'll be able to say that in 6 days. :)
I wonder if 18 is just a coincidence? It was just this year that I was able to drag myself to the doctor. So I'm circumsize-bound.



Quote:

Originally posted by Elitegibson
. . .For those preaching the benefits of extra nerve endings for the uncut, I remember hearing on Loveline that Dr. Drew said that your nerve endings are already in overload at time of orgasm anyways, so having a couple hundred thousand more wouldn't do too much. . .
I'm going to find out first-hand in less then a week, so when I come off the the pain-killers I'll let you know if there's a difference. ;)

Elitegibson 11-18-2003 02:18 PM

Re: Re: are you cut or not ?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Marburg

I'm going to find out first-hand in less then a week, so when I come off the the pain-killers I'll let you know if there's a difference. ;)

We're eagerly awaiting. Be sure you're fully healed before getting frisky though. That's a wound no one would want reopened.

Marburg 11-18-2003 02:22 PM

*cringe* >_O

The thought of that almost kills me.

I was actually worrying about that, as I little or no self-control.

Fortunatly, the surgary *shudder* is on a monday, so I should be all healed by the weekend, when temptation normally kicks in. A side, note: I have the most caring girl of all time.


(this is extreamly offtopic but, Elitegibson, what's your avatar from?)

Elitegibson 11-18-2003 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marburg
(this is extreamly offtopic but, Elitegibson, what's your avatar from?)
It's from a hentai post that Suvi made a few weeks (months?) ago. I'm pretty sure it's Sakura from Card Captor Sakura and she's definitely enjoying herself.

orange monkeyee 11-18-2003 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jizzmasterp
Im uncut It makes wanking easier.
true, the use of lube is nonexistent for me

Jackshit 11-18-2003 07:38 PM

I'm cut and I like it - makes for a "cleaner look"

having said that, as an adult, if I were uncut, I probably would not cut that skin off my dick.

ireallydontknow 11-18-2003 10:06 PM

i'm uncut.. and i'm thinking about getting surgery, but i'm scared to

hdg 11-18-2003 10:12 PM

I am cut, but my son will not be. If he wants to later in life, that is his decision, but I am not going to take that away from him.

vveronica 11-19-2003 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sleepyjack
uncircumsized. Sometimes the head gets cold and needs a jumper :lol:
vveronica=jumper

heheheh Frankly, i like them either way hehehehhe Once nice and hard they all look mostly the same... great!

The.Lunatic 11-19-2003 12:47 PM

so about 70% cut about 30% uncut huh...

i'll add one more to the uncut

jefferson6599 12-19-2003 06:24 AM

???
 
cut, but while my wife was pregnant we had numerous discussions on the topic and she told me it would ultimately be up to me when the time came. Thank GOD we now have two beautiful girls and I never had to make the decision. I was leaning towards uncut but don’t know what I will do if I ever have to make the decision. I enjoy reading the opinions, a lot of food for thought.

dami³ 12-19-2003 07:15 AM

uncut - got to tell you that I really got freaked out when one of my friends told me he was cut, I was young, and I had a big imagination :) - it's very rare where I live, most men who have been circumsized that I know have done it out of religious reasons

PoteMatic 12-19-2003 07:40 AM

I heard healing after the procedure is 6 weeks but that sounds kinda long i dunno...

Legolas do/did you play Ultima Online on TDS?

ninety09 12-19-2003 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dy156
Also, I bet it hurts alot, and if it's to be done, I'd rather them not have to have it done when they are old enough to remember pain.
:hmm: So hurting babies is fine, since they won't remember?

Anyway, I'm uncut. My parents are neither butchers or religious freaks =)

Averett 12-19-2003 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ninety09
Anyway, I'm uncut. My parents are neither butchers or religious freaks =)
A friend of mine said the exact same thing to me once. And he's Canadian as well.

And now for your TMI moment of the day.... Of the 3 guys that I've had sex with, one was uncut. And he was the best. For what it's worth ;) Which isn't much I'm sure!

mortius 12-19-2003 01:31 PM

Uncut.

An interesting thing to find out would be the location of most people. I think in the US most are cut, however in the UK, most are not.

A lot of people saying being uncut isn't clean, I can only say one thing about that, learn how to wash it ;)

tenchi069 12-19-2003 01:47 PM

Cut. I'm from the U.S. for those that want to know location.

KungFuGuy 12-19-2003 02:59 PM

I did an ethics research paper on the issue for class. Circumcision became popular in the mid-20th century (like mainstream popular- it had been gaining beforehand though) for reasons of hygiene. the rabbi i spoke to said that males were fighting in overseas wars (WWI, WWII, Korea...) and getting infections under the foreskin, so to stop these they recomended circumcisions.

SInce then it has been found that circumcision provides some medical benefits, like reduced UTI's, but these benefits can be equalled by teaching the child good hygiene.

So because the medical benifits have been scaled down a lot from what they once were, the only reason other than religious is social. If your having your child cut due to peer pressure on a societal level, you should ask yourself if thats the right motive to do it.

other facts,
-The US is the only country with a majority of circumcised males for non religious reason.

-The trend is droppng, and is currently about 60% for cut and 40% against.

-Because the medical benifits have been discovered to be neglible when good hygiene is taught and used anyway, many insurance companies do not pay for the operation anymore, and parents must pay for it out of pocket. I believe in california its been classified as cosmetic surgery, and the rate there NOW is 30% get cut and 70% do not.

-The head can get desensitized, which can lead to 'lasting longer', but with adequate practice that shouldnt be a problem anyway.

-There are a few instances which circumcision is for medical reasons, but these are fairly rare. These would include something like when the forskin is completely closed up or other kinds of problems.

-before being popularized for hygienic reasons, circumcision was performed on males to reduce masturbation, and it was cut so that the skin would be tight on the verge of painful. This is because masterbation was viewed as soemthing that caused illness and disease. (you'll go blind!) sorta like hygine, but not really. (think late 1800's early 1900's for time span)

IMO the child should get to choose later in life because, although it will hurt a lot more and he'll definately remember, he'll know why he's doing it and for his own reasons.

I'm 'au natural'.

Basically, the biggest problem is when new parents just have a baby and forced into the decision with no knowledge on the issue without time to think on it.

-if you have your kid go natural, just teach him how to clean himself.

-if you get your kid cut, make sure you know why ur doing it.

BigTruck1956 12-19-2003 07:21 PM

cut. nuff said

Xirax 12-19-2003 10:33 PM

I'm not cut...I've never known me any other way...

taliendo 12-20-2003 12:02 AM

I'm cut and my boys will be cut. Why? Because, I'm cut.

Marburg 12-20-2003 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marburg
Fortunatly, the surgary *shudder* is on a monday, so I should be all healed by the weekend, . . .
Ok that was almost four weeks ago. Thinking that I was going to be healed by the weekend was idiotically optimistic, but now I'm pretty much healed. (mr. surgical scar is still there but it will be gone in due time)
Just to reiterate, I had a circumcision to cure my phimosis. I'm 18.

I'm going to ramble about what my experience was like; take from it what you will. ^-^

I have to say that medically, getting the operation was one of the best decisions I've ever made.
IMHO being cut is so, so much better then the alternative! (keep in mind I had phimosis) Now that I'm healed everything is so much . . . more fun. :)

The surgary was incredably basic so I'm not really going to bore anyone with the details. I showed up, waited around, got one needle, an IV, woke up 45 mins later, went home. -- Simple as hell.
Having said that - the actual recovery of the operation was pure hell. I don't recall being in more pain. I could barely walk for an entire week, and up untill the ninth day I couldn't walk without an obvious "there's something wrong with my man-bits" gait.
it was such an awful experience that I think I might slap someone without thinking if they told me they were having their baby cut.
It was hell enough for me, an adult; I couldn't imagine being a baby and having no idea what's going on or how to take care of himself while healing.
I'm not a doctor, but if a baby's pain receptors are even 10% as developed as my own he's in for a world of pain.

Ok, enough of that.

Quote:

Originally posted by Chuckles
. . . what was it like being changed afterwards? And what were the reasons for it? musta been pretty weird for along while hehe. . .
Some things that I've noticed in the last couple weeks:
  • Much easier to keep cleaned, and I mean -a lot- easier. Takes like 3 seconds to clean.
  • Any smells (good/bad) seem to be gone. I haven't decided if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
  • There hasn't been any change in sexual desensitization, at least none that I'm conciously aware of. There seems to be some sort of mental switch that descides when to kick the nerve endings into overdrive - it's weird.
  • I'm concious of my penis when walking far more often (maybe i haven't had enough time to get used to it, I'm not sure)
  • I think I'm going to have to purchase some form of lube, as I toss all my old "methods" out the window.
  • I don't care what anyone says - it's more aesthetically pleasing! Ego++
  • I was worried that having my head exposed all the time would cause me to start coming a lot faster, fortunatly I found out that's not the case while at my girl's house last night.
  • Heh. I was surprised to see clothing imprint on the end of my wang one morning a couple days ago. :p

Methinks that my thought on the subject is - don't do it unless you really want to - or have to. It's really neat to be cut - but recovering from the operation is the worst thing ever.

That post was way to long.
Questions/comments/complaints?
spelling/grammer? :D

Crack 12-20-2003 09:01 AM

Snake in a sweater here! I've never had any compliants...

Jaron 12-20-2003 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FroMan
I have to agree :shrug:

Being circumsized does help, espically with cleanly ness. Supposedly reduces things like urinary trackt infections etc...

Actually, it does.

My friend has been getting infections around his foreskin and in his urinary tract, but refuses to get circumsized... doesn't like the idea, and I don't blame him for not wanting to chop a chunk of his cock off.

Personally, though, I was circumsized at birth.

moonstrucksoul 12-20-2003 01:34 PM

i don't think i could see my dick with a turtleneck

stiffy 12-21-2003 10:40 PM

I can't understand all these people blaming being "cut or uncut" for all their mental problem's. I mean come on, if youve been "cut" all your life how do you know if you would've turned out different if were "uncut"!!! It won't change a thing so deal with it!

I'm uncut by the way.

gibingus 12-22-2003 11:07 AM

there is a valid medical reason for circumcision, recent medical research supports that uncircumcised guys have a much greater chance of giving their female partners cervical cancer: http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...1-cervical.htm

circumcision dates back to the dawn of civilization and was both ritually and practically performed in both the new and old world land masses for thousands of years prior to columbian contact. the ancients may not have had the arsenal of modern scientific technology, but their cultural adaptations generally have practical foundations. as a rule, religion adopts sound practices as ritual in order to perpetuate norms and mores outside of the secular legal structure of the society.

Sho Nuff 12-22-2003 01:13 PM

Cut from birth and I actually feel nieve for believing almost everyone was. A friend of mine got cut when he was 14 but thats the only person I knew that wasnt cut.

My boy will probably be cut too

sigma1042 12-22-2003 01:36 PM

if i have boys (crosses fingers) they'll be cut
if only so they don't catch shit from the other guys in the locker room, thats way more scarring then crying for 2 min at a forgettable age

oh i'm cut btw

albion_t 12-23-2003 07:46 PM

I'm cut, but my ex-wife and I made the decision not to cut our two boys. The younger one was eventually done for medical reasons, but I still think we made the right choice. If it matters, we are in the U.S. south - we received a lot of criticism for not circumsizing, as it's still the norm here.

Boo 12-24-2003 10:32 PM

Cut

My boy is cut.

Not for religion. More from tradition. Works great, last long time.

Jesus Pimp 12-25-2003 04:57 PM

Uncut and proud of it! :D


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