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JStrider 09-25-2003 12:59 PM

male Contraceptive introduced.
 
http://navisite.collegeclub.com/serv...articleid=4547

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Male Contraceptive Introduced
By Staff Editorial
The Oracle - U. South Florida

EDITORIAL: New form of contraception a test for male resolve
September 2, 2003 (U-WIRE)
TAMPA, Fla. - Contraceptives for males have always been limited, but a new method requiring an injection to the testicles gives men an alternative option and more responsibility in family planning.

Condoms, the only other not permanently invasive form of contraception for males, have been around for several thousand years. Even though their effectiveness has increased, the method has been the same. While currently in testing, but soon available for men, it could enable third world countries to combat population increases as well as offer a reliable method for the rest of the world.

Though this new method of birth control is working at 100 percent effectiveness, it seems unlikely that many men will be enthusiastic about this due to the seemingly painful nature of the injection.

As Don Waller, a contraceptives expert and professor of pharmacology and toxicology at the University of Illinois at Chicago put it in Utne Reader, "Men don't like doctors to have anything to do with their testicles."

The way it works is quite simple: An injection into the vas of the testicle places an ionic charge on the walls of the tubes in which sperms reside, causing the sperm to burst.

The method could be effective for lengths of up to 10 years, and is reversible by a separate injection.

The procedure, currently in a test stage, is hoped to advance to a point where surgical methods, such as vasectomy, are not needed.

If this stage is reached, this contraceptive option may find wider acceptance because it offers the effectiveness of a surgical vasectomy without the permanence.

While this option may not appeal to the squeamish among men, the advantages of this option may trigger heated debate among couples. Women facing side effects from contraceptive pills, ranging from hot flashes to breast cancer, will likely welcome the availability of a safe alternative.

The injection also provides couples with an economic incentive. The one-time price of $22 rather than $40 per month for the pill, coming in at $4,800 for a 10-year supply, could make it a widely accepted method.

While some may doubt that women would be happy leaving the responsibility for family planning to their male partners, the one-time nature of the new method will allow women to cease using contraceptives blighted by side effects, while knowing they are still protected from unwanted pregnancy.

well i think it sounds like a great idea... and would be great... but thinking about the idea of getting a shot right in the nuts sounds painful... but... i might be willing... depending on other options... and it lasting up to 10 years... for just $22 is very impressive...

Ripsaw 09-25-2003 01:05 PM

What they didn't tell you is that side effects include nausea, dizzyness, eye strain, weight gain, loss of libido, swollen testicles, permanently reduced sperm production, and dick shrinkage.

$22 bucks, reversible, with no side-effects? I'd get stabbed in the balls for that.

Redlemon 09-25-2003 01:08 PM

"Up to" 10 years? How am I supposed to know if it is still good at 9.5 years, other than a pregnant woman?

Halx 09-25-2003 01:57 PM

Wow.. nice.. I'll let others bite the bullet for me before I decide though...

Lebell 09-25-2003 02:10 PM

Well, if the hype is correct, then yeah, I would bite the bullet.

Cost alone is worth a little bit of pain, not to mention the side effects women have to go through using their contraceptives.

mattevil 09-25-2003 02:17 PM

man no love for balls here. something about losing my virility just freaks me out .i'll just stick to 'ol rubber glove for the 1 fingered man(i 'm too young and don't have any long realtionships nowadays anyways to not worry about std's). of course i'm guessin people considering this are in their late 20s at least right?

JStrider 09-25-2003 02:54 PM

*shrug* im 19... id do it if it really meets up with the hype... 10 years... i might not be in relationships in all that time... and if i wasnt in a commited relationship id still use a condom...but condoms do break from time to time...

blade02 09-25-2003 04:14 PM

i'd have to see what the side effects really are first...but sounds good to me.

starbum 09-25-2003 04:29 PM

If this is proven to work, im sold. Pain or no pain, i'd rather have a short stab of pain than 18 years of headaches before I was ready.

battlemouth 09-25-2003 04:59 PM

Quote:

"Men don't like doctors to have anything to do with their testicles."
haha i found that quote humorous, anyways i cant imaging getting stabbed in the balls could feel to good, but it may be worth it considering the effectiveness

darkallaround 09-25-2003 05:12 PM

if it works...i'd still be leary of the reversability after 10 whole years. not to mention, what could long-term exposure do to your junk?

if it's bs, then...well...this is one "man overboard"

Mael 09-25-2003 08:23 PM

the problem i see with this is that while it is great for the man, knowing that he won't cause any babies before their wanted, outside fo a relationsjhip, andy woman would be stupid to A) not make the guy use a consom, and B) put that kind of risk and responsibility in the hands of someone they aren't in for the long haul with. they're just asking for trouble.

meff 09-25-2003 08:55 PM

STAY AWAY FROM MY NUTS DOCTAH
*runs*

arcane 09-26-2003 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ripsaw
$22 bucks, reversible, with no side-effects? I'd get stabbed in the balls for that.
yeah....sign me up

if it wasnt for too many side effects of course :(

Dunta 09-26-2003 04:23 AM

Um, I think I will pass on that one.

Evil Milkman 09-26-2003 05:02 AM

Yeah, right...

'Stabbed' and 'balls' should never coexist within the same sentence.

sigma1042 09-26-2003 07:55 AM

i'll give it a year of real world testing if it works, i'll do it
i can suck up 5 min of pain for several years of worry free spraying
get it reversed for 3-5 years to have some kiddies and go back for life

sipsake 09-26-2003 08:03 AM

Sounds like a great solution...except the needle in the nuts part

I'm skeptical about the cost though. $22? By the time it gets FDA approval and is ready for the market I bet it's more than $200. At least in the states. We'll probably be able to drive to Canada and get the injection for $22.

Beltruckus 09-26-2003 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sipsake
We'll probably be able to drive to Canada and get the injection for $22.
or $3300 canadian.

punx1325 09-26-2003 09:44 AM

I would let a doctor inject anything near my penis...I'll just stick to the traditional methods.

wry1 09-26-2003 10:16 AM

I'd do it. I've always said that when they come out with a reliable method of birth control for men, I'd be all for it.....

.....There's no way I'd become a hypocrite over something like a little injection - even if it is in the balls.

GoldenOuroboros 09-26-2003 10:37 AM

Good luck to all that try it.. I'll wait a year or two before getting it I reckon just to see if there ARE any side effects.. and still.. a shot in the balls.. urgh..

macmanmike6100 09-26-2003 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Halx
Wow.. nice.. I'll let others bite the bullet for me before I decide though...
I'm with Hal

Munku 09-26-2003 10:39 PM

The vas deferens is not the testicle itself. It's the tube connected to it. You guys make it sound like the needle is gonna poke a hole into my testicle and drain it out or soemthing.

Hard8s 09-27-2003 10:03 AM

SO all it does it put an ionic charge around the testes, I wonder if being around microwaves, emf, etc. will change that charge and render it useless? I think I will wait and see about more testing first. But if it does work I am all for it. Too many unwanted pregnancies especially with the younger generation (i.e 15-18 yr. olds) who are experimenting with sex and do not understand the repercussions. Sex = babies if you don't watch what your doing.

Besides a little shot in the nuts can't kill you, just sperm!

Besides I'd rather have the responsibility for birth control in my hands not someone else's. Just a little more peace of mind.

numist_net 09-27-2003 12:35 PM

it didnt say vas deferens though, it said it was at the point where the vans meets the testicle, so its close enough for me to be worried about little pokey things....

Ionizing my balls? Bursting sperm? Sounds like genocide, and I can't believe there are no long term effects from magnetizing (ionizing) your sack.

After some serious long-term tests are done, then Ill do it, but until then the rubber glove does me fine. Either way Im taking the matter of controlling pregnancy in my own hands.

And hey! I am 18 and even I know that sex = babies :P

telekinetic2 09-27-2003 12:44 PM

I'd do it...as soon as someone proves its reversible without side effects. Better than making girl take a pill every day that makes her sick. Even if it was large-bore-needle-shot to Each Nut, I'm in, if it were effective. Come on, what ever it is, it can't hurt more than birth, right? Man up, all y'all!

(still, shudders at thought)

AngelHands 09-27-2003 01:03 PM

Before any of you take this shot, just remember that they also said that there weren't any real side effects of Depo Provera, the bc shot for women. Read this.... http://www.abcinternetmarketing.com/depo-provera/

anleja 09-27-2003 01:25 PM

I'd do it, after all the guinea pig men were done with it to prove it wouldn't have the side-effects of DepoProvera in the article AngelHands linked to. My girlfriend was on the shot, it was cool because she wasn't going to get pregnant... too bad her sex drive was so decreased she didn't want to have sex.

I'm going to wait, but sure seems a better option than a vasectomy. A shot is a shot. It's not like Pinhead from the Hellraiser movies has to give you head.

em1014 09-27-2003 02:53 PM

Hey, I like that idea... then again I'm not a boy either!

daydream 09-28-2003 04:55 PM

It sounds like a good idea... I mean it would be great if I never had to worry about taking the pill anymore...and it would def save a lot of money...The only reason I wouldn't want my SO to use this method is b/c what if years from now he went to get it reversed and something went wrong and it wouldn't reverse...then he would never be fertile... one day In the future I want to have kids...

G5_Todd 09-28-2003 05:03 PM

" injection to the testicles"

ill pass lol

dragonhawk 09-29-2003 01:41 PM

Sounds interesting. My wife wants me to get "snipped", so one shot there would be AS bad.

And she should go through menopause within the next 10 years, so only one shot.

I'd probably do it.

Magpie0001 10-02-2003 05:35 AM

I asked my doc about this & she said that it was best not to go messing with this kind of stuff untill its been on the market for a year or so.

vveronica 10-02-2003 07:52 AM

And I'm going to trust you guys had the shot Yeah..........!
that is like you guys saying "HONEY IT'S OKAY I"LL PULL OUT"

I'll stay on the pill thanks.

mmjau 10-02-2003 08:05 AM

definetly sounds interesting, GF thought it sounded good too, i hope to read some more postive stuff about this in the future

Dano069 10-02-2003 09:06 AM

Great, my little guy's heads explode? Damn! I think I would have it done though. It's probably less painful than getting the tubes snipped. Less invasive too by the sound of it. Then, I can spread my love everwhere! :thumbsup: Drive-by "shooting" anyone? :lol:

Booboo 10-02-2003 01:25 PM

I cant think if that would be extremely painfull or not... lol. If it felt like a normal needle prick I bet I would.. but the thought of a needle poking me there makes the fellas want to hide.

bermuDa 10-02-2003 06:11 PM

maybe if i had sex on a regular basis, or on any basis.

if it ever happens it's nice to know that's an option. I hate needles but I'd go through it for the peace of mind.

mmjau 10-03-2003 12:51 AM

btw does anyone know how long this usually takes to get aproved by the FDA and out on the market and tested etc ?

jvwgtr 10-03-2003 05:52 AM

I would very seriously consider doing this. It's scary how much the Pill messes with a woman's body chemistry...it should be much easier to develop a male contraceptive that's less harmful.
Still, a needle to the testicles? Holy crap!
That's a little intimidating. Still...if you only have to do it once every 10 years or so...

ratbastid 10-03-2003 06:05 AM

I'm there in a heartbeat. It's totally unfair that lurkette has borne the burden of managing our contraception--all the side-effects and crap she's put up with--for the 13 years of our relationship.

I googled this thing a little bit. Sounds like it was invented in India, has had some good results and positive clinical trials there. It's in trials in Canada. So it'll be a few years yet before it's on the US market.

mmjau 02-24-2004 06:57 AM

any news about this ?

StormBerlin 02-24-2004 07:27 AM

"Causing the sperm to burst." Anyone else have a problem with this description? Hmm... almost sounds painful.

Anomaly_ 02-24-2004 04:33 PM

Hopefully RISUG eventually makes its way to the US. Like the article states, it's much more economical than a pill (for a woman or potentially a man). Not only that, it won't screw with your hormone levels. Dr. Sujoy Guha of India is the creator of the contraceptive and has been working on it for 25 years. From http://www.gristmagazine.com/maindis...lman081303.asp :
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# First, neither sexual partner has to interrupt the throes of passion to use it -- no more running to the bathroom and fumbling with various ointments and plastics.

# Second, the process, once it is refined and approved, will be completely non-surgical. Whew, say a lot of men.

# Third, it's long-lasting. According to Guha, a single injection can be effective for at least 10 years.

#Fourth, after testing RISUG on more than 250 volunteers, neither Guha nor other researchers in the field have found side effects more worrisome than a slight scrotal swelling in some men immediately following the injection. This swelling goes away after a few weeks. Compare that to the Pill, which even today can cause health problems ranging from severe migraines to blood clots.*

# Fifth, it works. Of all the men who've had the RISUG injection (and 15 of the 250 had it more than 10 years ago), there has been only one unplanned pregnancy among their partners -- and in that instance, the injection wasn't administered properly.

# Sixth, and best of all, the contraceptive appears to be reversible with another injection. To date, reversing the procedure has been tried only on non-human primates, but among them, it's been reversed successfully multiple times.
All I've read about it makes it sound very promising. Apparently some US researchers have said the Indian testing is not thorough enough in terms of toxicity, however there have been no side effects in the ten years of trials on men or even higher dosages on primates.

Smimpinj 02-24-2004 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by Munku
You guys make it sound like the needle is gonna poke a hole into my testicle and drain it out or soemthing.
That gave me the biggest nervous twinge in my life. Just picturing....ow.

doncalypso 02-24-2004 05:25 PM

Given that I'm not too keen on the idea of having kids (except for the fact that I'm an only child and need to preserve the family line) I don't think I'd risk getting poked by a needle in the nuts.

I think I'd just go for a vasectomy.

monkeysugar 02-24-2004 06:54 PM

If it works and is reversible, sign me up! A needle in the testicular region doesn't sound too pleasant, but the way I look at it, I've been kicked in the balls or had the boys otherwise accidentally smashed on many occasions, and the pain goes away pretty quickly. A short period of sore balls vs. a lifetime of raising a kid...that's not a tough choice for me.

insidious_machinae 02-24-2004 07:35 PM

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skier 02-24-2004 09:26 PM

Nurse: "don't worry bobby, it's just a little prick...."
Bobby: "Who you callin little?"

My kneejerk reaction to an injection into my balls is a "GET THAT AWAY FROM ME!" But when thinking it over I'd have to say i'd do it once they work out the kinks, like serious side effects, loss of libido, possibility of permanent sterility.

Prince 02-25-2004 08:57 AM

I'm gonna sit and wait and see how many men this renders entirely incapable of procreating before I jump on this wagon of craziness.

ariekitten 02-25-2004 09:45 PM

that's a neat concept, but how many men would go for it? that would hurt. personally i'd like to see men take on the burden of birth control...really. women have more than done their share. :p

Bob Biter 02-25-2004 10:18 PM

The day I trust a non-invasive male contraceptive as a sole means of preventing pregnancy is the day I'll do the same for a female non-invasive contraceptive, which is to say that it'll never happen.


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