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meff 09-13-2003 02:24 PM

I had to ask sooner or later -- Fisting.
 
How? ...

We have tried along time to do fisting, but the maximum fingers I can get up her is 4, and it won't go past that.. Does anyone have tips on how to make her wider or does she just need to relax more?

I am kinda confused about this, I don't *know* if she can get bigger, I am just guessing so?

If anyone has experience with this, please let us know! Thanks :D

Averett 09-13-2003 02:34 PM

In the name of all that is holy and whatnot.... WHY???

meff 09-13-2003 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Averett
In the name of all that is holy and whatnot.... WHY???
It's a serious question, and I am seeking a serious answer.

Even if she doesn't like it, we can never do it again, but we are both looking into trying it.

Why not? :)

SiN 09-13-2003 03:03 PM

me and my bf tried it a couple times, and he couldn't get it all the way in either.

problem felt like the pubic bone on top.

don't have any tips/suggestions, but i'm curious too, i'd like for it to work sometime.

why not? ;)

Averett 09-13-2003 03:14 PM

Hey, whatever floats your boat! :D


I've got no tips for ya though... I'd imagine lube. And Loooots of it!

zombieman 09-13-2003 03:18 PM

Use plenty of lube, when you have 4 fingers in, push your fingers closer together, that should enable you to slide your thumb in too. Then slowly begin to make a fist inside her vagina, and keep puring lube onto your hand.

As to why: some women love the feeling of their vagina being stretched.

juanvaldes 09-13-2003 03:41 PM

You may just not "match". There is a limit to how much can go in and there is no way to make your hand smaller so it may just not be possible.

Viking1064 09-13-2003 03:44 PM

Good luck. Why? I would think the two fo you are going to feel extremely close afterwords if you are successful. Whenever my wife and I have done something very different or new (new or different for us) we always feel a special bond afterwards. We have anal about once or twoce a year and we always feel that special feeling afterwards.

Good Luck, Meff!

Keep us updated.

meff 09-13-2003 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juanvaldes
You may just not "match". There is a limit to how much can go in and there is no way to make your hand smaller so it may just not be possible.
I thought about that, and I may have hands that are too big.

Another question then: If a baby can come out of it, why can't I go in? :lol:

Thanks guys.

SiN 09-13-2003 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by meff
Another question then: If a baby can come out of it, why can't I go in? :lol:


babies oft/usually rip the woman on the way out (unless they cut her first)

i_t_man 09-13-2003 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juanvaldes
You may just not "match". There is a limit to how much can go in and there is no way to make your hand smaller so it may just not be possible.
A baby passes through, and it's alot bigger than a fist!

Uuudar 09-13-2003 04:23 PM

Generally there is a lot of tearage if an episiotomy (sp?) is not performed. Also, that is coming out (which is the way the vagina is shaped for that (I think)) so going in is not quite the same.

Good luck with all that though. I'd like to try it at some point, but who knows!

numberfive 09-13-2003 05:58 PM

Babies have soft heads too.

:D

EDIT: By soft I mean it's moldable.

stldickie 09-13-2003 06:51 PM

Try having another chick do the fisting...smaller hands

Thraeryn 09-13-2003 07:15 PM

"Why" is because it's fun. :D "How" is a tougher matter. I've tried before with one partner and was never successful. I've tried with another partner and have been successful. The key tips are:
  • lots of lube
  • go slowly
  • scrunch fingers (and knuckles) together as much as possible
  • lots of lube
  • short fingernails
  • lots of lube
Good luck to ya. ;)

rodgerd 09-13-2003 11:26 PM

Re: I had to ask sooner or later -- Fisting.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by meff
How? ...
I am kinda confused about this, I don't *know* if she can get bigger, I am just guessing so?

Is your hand bigger than a child's head? I think not (BICBW).

Quote:

Originally posted by meff
If anyone has experience with this, please let us know! Thanks :D
Time, essentially. It may take a while in any given session, and it may take more than one session to develop the necessary flexability.

Skud has some
useful tips online.

rodgerd 09-13-2003 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SiN
babies oft/usually rip the woman on the way out (unless they cut her first)
Interestingly enough some Yoga teachers recommend what they refer to as perennial massage to help lower the likelihood of ripping or cutting at birth time; it's essentially a course in working up to fisting over a number of months to make the area more supple and flexible.

wry1 09-14-2003 01:23 AM

Why can't you get it in? Not sure....are you able to palm a basketball? If so, that just might be your culprit. I've read some really sound tips for fitting that last bit of hand in, and I'd agree that it's going to be a combination of the amount of lube used and your ability to collapse your fingers and thumb inward as you're sliding your hand in (at last).

Viking1064 pointed out that you and your gf will most likely feel much closer after. If you can't get your hand out, then this will be doubly true!

Yes, I'm deliberately injecting some levity into this, and am doing so for two reasons: It's a goal (and getting there is half the fun!), and it's not a crisis situation (as it would be if you couldn't get your hand out.....).

Good luck to the both of you! I'm all for having some novel fun in a relationship, so you've got my support!

bermuDa 09-14-2003 01:39 AM

i probably couldn't do it, i've got hands like rachmaninov =\

Battlefield 09-14-2003 01:49 AM

yes a baby passes through but I believe over the term of the pregnancy the vagina reaches a dilation of 8 - 10cm...so, yeah.

Good luck though, like Viking said trying new things is always a challenge and when success comes it can be pleasure for both--if not necessarily physical pleasure.

macmanmike6100 09-14-2003 04:32 AM

let us know how this goes; my girlfriend and I have been trying to work up to it, since she's very tight (score!) but I'll get there eventually.

meff 09-14-2003 04:35 AM

Wow, thanks for all the tips (and seriousness) :) I'll see what I can do to report back here. Wish me luck! We mess around every day so when Shyla says it's ok we'll begin ;)

Shyla Loral 09-14-2003 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by meff
Wow, thanks for all the tips (and seriousness) :) I'll see what I can do to report back here. Wish me luck! We mess around every day so when Shyla says it's ok we'll begin ;)
Shyla says it's ok :icare:

Sapper 09-14-2003 03:20 PM

It's all about LOTS of lube + taking you time.

Any person who tells you that it is impossible should have a short walk off a long cliff.

Think: delivering a child

As I said however, you must take your time and use lots of lube :D.

bondagegirl 09-14-2003 04:17 PM

It's hard, especially if the guy has big hands lik emy boy. we had a ton of lube and tried a couple times but it never works because his knuckles can't get any smaller.

meff 09-14-2003 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bondagegirl
It's hard, especially if the guy has big hands lik emy boy. we had a ton of lube and tried a couple times but it never works because his knuckles can't get any smaller.
Alas, but we will try soon! Right now Shyla is dizzy and I have a migrane so probably not right now :)

Thanks for all the ideas again.

im2smrt4u 09-14-2003 09:37 PM

Well, after reading this thread, I asked my g/f about it and we gave it a shot.

She was already very wet on her own and I must have used one quarter of the large bottle of Astroglide, so lube shouldn't have been a problem. We got really close, but I just couldn't get past my knuckles. It got uncomfortable for her so we abandoned any further attempts for the night. Maybe next time. :)

lady 09-15-2003 04:31 AM

During labour and delivery certain hormones are acting on the woman's uterus, cervix, etc to make the tissue more supple and stretchy.

(P.S. It's the cervix that dilates to 10cm, not the vaginal opening although that does stretch to accomodate the baby's head.)

soxsfans 09-15-2003 04:46 AM

Quote:

yes a baby passes through but I believe over the term of the pregnancy the vagina reaches a dilation of 8 - 10cm...so, yeah.
As lady pointed out, its the cervix which dialates. The other important factor is that through-out the entire pregnancy the pelvic bone is seperating, hence the famous "widening of the hips".

The wife and I tried it before, plenty of lube, but I could not get past the knuckle of the thumb, so close, but not quite.

sigma1042 09-15-2003 07:30 AM

lube and booze
that'll do

it also helps if you have midgety little hands (rich vos-like, for those in the know)

weasel2112 09-15-2003 07:32 AM

I, um.. I think you should.... umm.. I got nothin...

Stinky Pee 09-15-2003 04:11 PM

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Where would this world be if everyone just shoved their fists wherever they pleased?

mattevil 09-15-2003 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Viking1064
We have anal about once or twoce a year and we always feel that special feeling afterwards.

i know your completly serious but somehow that makes me laugh. i guess it's the use of the words "special feeling" and "anal" in the same sentence. Good for you man i'm jealous

im2smrt4u 09-15-2003 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stinky Pee
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Where would this world be if everyone just shoved their fists wherever they pleased?
Just a little looser? :lol:

Stinky Pee 09-15-2003 09:50 PM

...and perhaps a bit more unconfortable.

novacainex 09-15-2003 10:00 PM

i've wanted to try this with my girlfriend for a while. We've done everything conventional and both likedo try new things but she is afraid it will make her too loose. I've gotten 4 fingers in no problem and know i could've gotten the thumb in but she didn;t want to. Oh well maybe in the future.

meff 09-15-2003 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stinky Pee
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Where would this world be if everyone just shoved their fists wherever they pleased?
I say it again: Why not? Me and Shyla are comfortable with each other enough to do this and not hurt each other. Now I know posting here gives other people a view of our sex life, but if you don't have anything helpful to contribute, please hit the back button.

Thanks.. :rolleyes:

meff 09-15-2003 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stinky Pee
...and perhaps a bit more unconfortable.
^^^^^^^^^^ See previous post.

Lunchbox7 09-16-2003 05:58 AM

Its like the virgin birth but only in reverse

legolas 09-16-2003 06:54 AM

If youwant to fist then you have to stretch her out... that area doesn't just stretch though, it breaks. See the backdoor gets big and small and streches but the front passage can only rip so once it gets big it stays that way. If you want just keep trying and eventually it will be big enough.

vveronica 09-17-2003 03:12 PM

better have frickin small hand and still it is not getting up there.

Captain Canada 09-18-2003 07:24 PM

Fisting is pretty fuckin gross in my opinion. To each their own I guess.

Psycho Dad 09-20-2003 12:44 PM

As has been mentioned, use a lot of lube. I have also had best success with this after dildo play... and lots of lube. Speaking of lube, the whole area needs lubed as well as your entire hand, not just the labias. One mistake is to try to insert the thumb after you have worked up to four fingers when you actually want to fold the thumb across your palm before forming a fist to finally gain total insertion. I want to mention again, use a lot of lube.

motdakasha 09-20-2003 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by novacainex
i've wanted to try this with my girlfriend for a while. We've done everything conventional and both likedo try new things but she is afraid it will make her too loose. I've gotten 4 fingers in no problem and know i could've gotten the thumb in but she didn;t want to. Oh well maybe in the future.
Quote:

Originally posted by legolas
If youwant to fist then you have to stretch her out... that area doesn't just stretch though, it breaks. See the backdoor gets big and small and streches but the front passage can only rip so once it gets big it stays that way. If you want just keep trying and eventually it will be big enough.
I've been to a vaginal fisting seminar and even witnessed a live demonstration. Two Sexologists (Ph.D.) assured the class that the vagina will stretch back in a matter of hours.

As for knowing if your fist can fit in her vagina, best way to determine this is to go to an OBGYN. Ask them to measure the distance from the pelvic bone to the coccyx. (They have tools to measure these things for pregnancy to know if the baby's head will pass through without intervention.) If your fist is within that range, it's just a matter of maneuvering your fist properly. If your fist is larger in diameter/width than her pelvic bone to coccyx, I would not recommend trying fisting as you could puncture her vagina or rectum on the coccyx.

Quote:

Originally posted by legolas
that area doesn't just stretch though, it breaks.
The vagina is a naturally elastic, it will eventually return back to normal. The most damage a vagina will get from fisting are small (read: nearly microscopic) scratches and tear from the fist, but I'll let you in on a secret: Sex makes the same kind of tears if you do it long enough. Wearing a glove will reduce the amount of scratches and scrapes.

Lots of lube. Trim your finger nails. Use gloves (less friction==longer time to play). Go slow, but if you're going to do it, you need to do all the stretching (it's a slow process) within the same evening otherwise the effort will go to waste. This may be obvious, but there are only two ways a fist will go into a vagina, palm up and down. There's a little bit of a rotating movement when you're fitting the thumb in. It doesn't just go straight in. You start out with your palm facing to the left or right (that will determine if you end up palm up or down). If I could remember more detail from the lecture, I'd tell you the "trick" because there is apparently a trick to fitting the thumb in.

Searched "fisting," found: http://www.fisting-free.com/

David2000 09-20-2003 02:02 PM

The reason that a baby can come out is that the cervix dialates before birth--it's a chemical thing and it's not gonna happen just cause a baby-sized object wants in!

motdakasha 09-20-2003 02:24 PM

(Begin Frustrated Rant)
Quote:

Originally posted by David2000
The reason that a baby can come out is that the cervix dialates before birth--it's a chemical thing and it's not gonna happen just cause a baby-sized object wants in!
Look here, Mr. Know It All:
http://www.papscreen.org/ps/v_women/res/cervix.jpg
http://216.35.211.233/news/images/cervix.jpg
NOTHING SEXUAL EVER ENTERS THE CERVIX.
The entrance to a cervix looks like this: http://www.w-rabbit.com/dumbstuff/cervix/cervix.jpg
The cervix, while they are connected, is not part of the vagina. The fist goes in the vagina. The cervix is the passageway from the uterus to vagina. Nothing but babies and menstrual fluids come out of a cervix (naturally speaking, anyways). PENISES AND FISTS DO NOT GO IN A CERVIX!@ The fist can and will enter the vulva, the entrance to the vagina, nothing beyond the vagina. IF A BABY SIZED OBJECT WANTS IN THE VAGINA, IT CAN HAPPEN. Still, nothing goes in a cervix.

(End Frustrated Rant)

Listen to lady, she's training in the medical field.
Quote:

Originally posted by lady
(P.S. It's the cervix that dilates to 10cm, not the vaginal opening although that does stretch to accomodate the baby's head.) [/B]

Powderedmaggot 10-17-2005 10:13 AM

Have any of you had any measure of sucess? I can get to my palm without my thumb folded down. When I fold down my thumb I can't get past my second thumb nuckle. Is there a rotation that makes it easier? We've been working up slowly over the last few weeks. Initially I could not get 4 fingers in so we are makeing headway. I just seems the next step is larger than the ones to date.

CFster 10-29-2005 08:50 AM

Don't they teach sex ed in school these days?

I thought everybody knew the difference between the vagina and the cervix.

As for the "well it's big enough to fit a baby through" - a woman's body goes through changes during pregnancy, including the loosening of the vaginal muscles and widening of the pelvis due to hormones. This takes place over months, not in an evening.

Acetylene 10-29-2005 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battlefield
yes a baby passes through but I believe over the term of the pregnancy the vagina reaches a dilation of 8 - 10cm...so, yeah.

Good luck though, like Viking said trying new things is always a challenge and when success comes it can be pleasure for both--if not necessarily physical pleasure.

You are thinking of the cervix. The vagina does not dilate. It is forced open as the baby comes out, and it usually tears.

Someone needs to make a sticky explaining this, I have heard more people talk about how "my dick/hand/dildo can't be too big, a baby fits through there!" than I ever wanted to hear.

vanblah 10-30-2005 12:41 AM

The vagina does not dilate ... however it does expand. The tearing happens for some and not for others.

Lead543 10-30-2005 12:46 AM

All I have to say is....


Ouchie.


Fingers are flat and a fist is really... round.

Ouchie.

klined 11-03-2005 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i_t_man
A baby passes through, and it's alot bigger than a fist!

Yeah, but some people have premature children, and this is possibly why.

CFster 11-03-2005 01:47 PM

Fisting has absolutely nothing to do with premature labor.

volover 11-04-2005 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stldickie
Try having another chick do the fisting...smaller hands

excellent idea, tape it too

Nimetic 11-05-2005 04:20 PM

Bloody hell. Surely - when a baby is born there are other processes assisting.

The way I understand it - womens ligaments loosen or something during pregnancy, allowing the bones which are attached and form the pelvis some additional flexibility. I'm probably wrong... but yeah, I'm sure that there's a bunch of mechanisms that kick in during birth (some of which are understood medically and some which are undiscovered).

After all, the body has months to prepare for it.

That's not to belittle your question. I just don't think that this would be comparable to birth.

: >

Solla 11-11-2005 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thraeryn
"Why" is because it's fun. :D "How" is a tougher matter. I've tried before with one partner and was never successful. I've tried with another partner and have been successful. The key tips are:
  • lots of lube
  • go slowly
  • scrunch fingers (and knuckles) together as much as possible
  • lots of lube
  • short fingernails
  • lots of lube
Good luck to ya. ;)

Excellent advice!

Hubby fists me quite often and I love it. First it started out with him wanting to watch me doing it to myself. That tought me muscle control. After a while, he started doing it.

I know its definately not for everyone, but I guess I'm a pain slut, and the orgasms he gives me are soooooo intense.

Because we're monogamous, I'll never know what dp is like, but I do come close by fisting myself as we have anal sex.

Mmmmm.

Solla

Powderedmaggot 12-20-2005 11:33 AM

Well, we had some success. I got my hand in beyond all my knuckles and thumb but ran out of room to proceed deeper. Even with my fingers curled I seemed to be hitting the back wall. We found that using a vibrator helped her relax. As I got my hand to the widest part I had to rotate it to allow it to continue in. She liked it but does ot want to do it every time we have sex. Huge turn on for me.

Suave 12-20-2005 05:09 PM

I'm under the impression that vaginas can be different sizes. Mayhap your hands are too big for her vagina.

cellophanedeity 12-20-2005 06:08 PM

I have a couple of tips, but I can't honestly say that I've ever been successfully fisted. I intend on it sometime, but I gave up quite quickly before.

* Use thin latex gloves, practically soaked in lube.
* Make a "duck" with your hand. That's close to the shape you want to enter with.
* Draw your thumb into your fist, You're carressing her with the shape of your hand, not punching her insides.
* make sure her legs are in a good position. Something like how they put them up for a pap is good, but make sure she's still comfortable.
* Give it time. This will take a while.

Solla 12-21-2005 05:55 AM

Oops.........!

xepherys 12-21-2005 10:32 AM

As for perennial massage, it's not yoga instructors per se... my wife's doctor (OB/GYN) recommended the same thing, as did our Lamaze instructor. Also, the girl at the tea and herb shop as well. I think it's a pretty common concept these days and should probably apply here as well, to some degree.

Anneri 12-21-2005 11:05 PM

I have never clenched as much as i did reading this thread ..ouch!! :eek:

I have friends who have spoken of their fisting experiences and a couple have found it easy yet one never succeeded, but personally i can't see the attraction, and as for " a baby fits so why not a fist?" i keep thinking ... my last child = 12 stitches and dislocated hips !!! :( :confused:

LalaLyn 12-22-2005 02:50 AM

All i can say is...ouch

bloodychill 12-27-2005 02:34 AM

I have never tried it but I have huge hands and very much doubt I could do it with any but the loosest of women. Some times, physiology just doesn't permit and that might be your problem.

Daniel_ 12-27-2005 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xepherys
As for perennial massage, it's not yoga instructors per se... my wife's doctor (OB/GYN) recommended the same thing, as did our Lamaze instructor. Also, the girl at the tea and herb shop as well. I think it's a pretty common concept these days and should probably apply here as well, to some degree.

How does one start THAT conversation with your Lamaze instructor? :hmm:

Or all of thoseotr people for that matter? :confused:


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