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Plan9 04-21-2009 08:14 PM

Research Shows Topless Blowjobs More Satisfying
 
Okay, it's my research... but still.

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Warning:

Thread may only apply to heterosexual males.

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Background:

Research was conducted by a dorky heterosexual male with a wide range of topless heterosexual female partners from 1999 to 2009. Male subject was either sitting, reclined, or laying flat on back while receiving rabid oral sex from single female subject naked from the waist up. Satisfaction was measured on a scale from "Pfft, I'd rather watch The Commish," to "Damn, girl... I'm gonna get that back when you're done, right?"

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Findings:

Topless blowjobs? Whew... sooo much better.

On a scale of one to ten? They're a toe-curling nine.

Research shows they're more satisfying, but why?

Is it the comfort of sitting in a cushy recliner while receiving oral sex?

Is it the oh-god sensation of pert nipples brushing my inner thighs?

Is it the subtle feeling of dominance over a shirtless kneeling partner?

Is it the simple visual stimulation of swinging breasts?

I must find out!

I can see an extensive amount of further field research in my future.

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Discussion:

What does the TFP think?

Willravel 04-21-2009 08:26 PM

What do I think? BJs don't have to be about power. Yes, the idea is that you're being servicing by your partner, but it's evolved since the first woman decided that she wasn't "in the mood" for anal. As if that's possible.

Still, I'll agree that topless really does ad spice to virtually any situation. I've been lucky enough in the past to watch a woman play piano topless. I can't remember what was played, or if there was even a piano, but I remember really enjoying it. Still, thinking back, I don't know if I've ever received fallatio from a woman with her top on. It seems odd, like anal with your pants on.

Plan9 04-21-2009 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willravel (Post 2627018)
or if there was even a piano

:thumbsup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willravel (Post 2627018)
It seems odd, like anal with your pants on.

Good one, Bateman.

levite 04-21-2009 08:53 PM

No question, it's all about the topless blow-jay. The sole exception, I think, being head given in public or "dangerous" situations, necessitating maximum stealthiness and/or quickness. I was always a "parks and recreation" type of guy, myself. But if in the comfort of home/hotel/office, yes, topless all the way.

Much to be said for the feeling of boob/nipple on inner thigh. Don't know that it's about power, but sometimes it can be, and that can be fun....

In any case, also facilitates the intermittent tit-wank, of which I am a big fan.

FuglyStick 04-21-2009 09:12 PM

Hmmm. I reckon you might be on to something.

But you know what's better? Sex when you hike up a short skirt. Dat's hot.

Plan9 04-21-2009 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuglyStick (Post 2627026)
But you know what's better? Sex when you hike up a short skirt. Dat's hot.

Aaah, more research to be done! How do you feel about conducting field trials?

ratbastid 04-22-2009 03:25 AM

Oh yes. HELL yes. AbsofuckingLUTELY yes.

++boob-on-thigh.

Not to stray into the slightly more serious topic this thread prompts, but the power dynamics of oral sex are very interesting. While it may seem that the receiver is subjugating the performer, I assert that ALL the power in the whole thing is in the er... hands of the blower, not the blowee. For me, part of what I love is surrendering and letting her have her way with me.

You know. With her boobs out.

Push-Pull 04-22-2009 05:27 AM

Boobs out, +1. But keep in mind, there are plenty of guys who will gladly take what they can get. Hell, I'd take one from a chick in body armor and a burlap sack.

kramus 04-22-2009 05:49 AM

I loves the bare-breasted blow job. A pendant breast, tight nipples and smooth rounded flesh to fill in the peripheral sensorium is like chocolate on my bacon - better and better.

That being said, a hot blow job with eye contact, quick response to direction and that hot-hot question of "How do you want it?" when I am approaching blastoff is a beautiful thing even when my fellatrix is fully dressed.

But for the OP, I think my preference is to lie either prone or with my upper back and neck propped on pillows while the topless/nude Giver of Head (GOH) either kneels between my thighs or is reclining beside me. The kneeling position is exquisite because her breasts have gravity working for them not against them. The reclining position is also a lovely one because I have her entire body to fondle/ogle.

Not to go too far off topic, but a very nice refinement of the blow job was the numbering of half a dozen favorite techniques. Which means that I can ask for a slow 1, and then tell her to 6 me. Or 4 - I like 4 :thumbsup: There is room for growth in this system, and to avoid confusion the different cowgirls have been given letters. When she runs through her ABC's and then does me by the numbers I am a very happily exhausted and completely satiated fellow.

Tully Mars 04-22-2009 06:02 AM

One more vote for boobs out.

World's King 04-22-2009 06:24 AM

Luckily most hookers don't charge extra for topless BJs.



Although getting them to dress up in a New York Knicks uniform from the 70s is usually around $200 extra.

snowy 04-22-2009 06:42 AM

I asked my SO what he thought. He replied, "Isn't it obvious?"

Apparently a topless girl is always better than a clothed one.

I'll have to remember that for next time, though honestly, I prefer to do it topless, because I like to bring my breasts into play.

Lucifer 04-22-2009 07:13 AM

Topless of course, but I'll have to put in a vote for bottomless, cause when she's kneeling beside you (lying prone), her pussy is just the right distance for your fingers to curl up and do that G-spot-stroking-come-hither motion that drives her wild!

ratbastid 04-22-2009 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowy (Post 2627142)
Apparently a topless girl is always better than a clothed one.

I'm trying to think whether truer words WERE in fact ever spoken, and I'm coming up with nothing.

World's King 04-22-2009 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratbastid (Post 2627163)
I'm trying to think whether truer words WERE in fact ever spoken, and I'm coming up with nothing.

Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day.

Plan9 04-22-2009 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by World's King (Post 2627165)
Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day.

Stop stepping on my thread boner, King!

Quote:

Originally Posted by World's King (Post 2627134)
Although getting them to dress up in a New York Knicks uniform from the 70s is usually around $200 extra.

Granted, I had to Google it, but I think if I had the money... I'd pay for it too. Novelty. Just to say I did it. It's like fucking a female rodeo clown and yellin' "You make me laugh, clown!" on the way to climax.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kramus (Post 2627112)
That being said, a hot blow job with eye contact, quick response to direction and that hot-hot question of "How do you want it?" when I am approaching blastoff is a beautiful thing even when my fellatrix is fully dressed.

Definitely the hotness. Eye contact and sultry questions do it for me every time. Kramus, your post captured the thread theme perfectly.

FuglyStick 04-22-2009 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin (Post 2627028)
Aaah, more research to be done! How do you feel about conducting field trials?

I'm game; alas, they're either getting faster, or I'm getting slower--they're harder to catch nowadays :sad:

Daniel_ 04-22-2009 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuglyStick (Post 2627183)
I'm game; alas, they're either getting faster, or I'm getting slower--they're harder to catch nowadays :sad:

One word: rohypnol. :paranoid:

Plan9 04-22-2009 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel_ (Post 2627185)
One word: rohypnol. :paranoid:

C'mon, Daniel... Fugly "want[s] a real date... a REAL date... no roofies and duct tape."

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I wish GiantHamburger would do a delicious cartoon illustration of the thread topic for us. I can only imagine the greatness.

ratbastid 04-22-2009 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by World's King (Post 2627165)
Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day.

The fact that exceptions exist proves the GENERAL truth of the statement.

Also: yikes.

Strange Famous 04-22-2009 12:58 PM

Related question

If you get head a girl while watching football or rugby, is that kind of gay?

Plan9 04-22-2009 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strange Famous (Post 2627300)
If you get head a girl while watching football or rugby, is that kind of gay?

No, that's called multitasking. I'll assume you have a frosty beverage in your hand while all of this is happening, too.

Most partners don't appreciate not being the center of attention while they're tonsil-boxing your armless Nazi infantryman.

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TFP Ladies: How do you feel about this topic? Do you find it more enjoyable to give your partner oral sex sans shirt?

Charlatan 04-22-2009 04:21 PM

While topless is always the preferred mode... I do feel the need to point out that when one is getting a blow job, whether topless or no, it's all good.

In fact, the best blow job of my life was in an alley and both of us were full clothed (with the exception of me being open at the button fly).

Shaindra 04-22-2009 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin (Post 2627187)
C'mon, Daniel... Fugly "want[s] a real date... a REAL date... no roofies and duct tape."

And you without your backpack. :eek:

FuglyStick 04-22-2009 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel_ (Post 2627185)
One word: rohypnol. :paranoid:

Call me old fashioned, but I still prefer lying about my personal income and sexual prowess.

Shaindra 04-22-2009 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin (Post 2627309)
TFP Ladies: How do you feel about this topic? Do you find it more enjoyable to give your partner oral sex sans shirt?

My preference is him prone, and me naked, so I can start off the action by sort of caressing his cock with my stomach, breasts, and face while maintaining eye contact the entire time. No hands, no tongue yet...all body movements. Then I begin with my "signature move" of the firm, flat tongue pressing the cock flat against his belly while licking slowly from balls to tip, again, maintaining eye contact.

This all works much better without a shirt on.

fresnelly 04-22-2009 04:43 PM

This thread made me think of the worst blowjob I ever had.

It was awesome.

Charlatan 04-22-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fresnelly (Post 2627394)
This thread made me think of the worst blowjob I ever had.

It was awesome.

+1

Lindy 04-22-2009 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strange Famous (Post 2627300)
Related question

If you get head a girl while watching football or rugby, is that kind of gay?

No guy is going to be getting any head from me if he's not willing to shut off the damn TV.:grumpy: Oh, or did you mean while watching the match at the stadium?:confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin (Post 2627309)
No, that's called multitasking. I'll assume you have a frosty beverage in your hand while all of this is happening, too.

I might have a bottle of champagne, and when he's about ready to blast, go down on the cock with a surprise mouthful of cold bubbly.:surprised:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin (Post 2627309)
TFP Ladies: How do you feel about this topic? Do you find it more enjoyable to give your partner oral sex sans shirt?

This lady will definitely vote for topless. I love giving head. I don't know if I find it more enjoyable sans shirt, but my partners always seem to like it when I can involve my big 34D girls and maybe a little bit of lube.:thumbsup: I always like to give quite a bit of hand as well as mouth action, and being shirtless allows for some titty fucking at the same time.

Lindy

Xerxys 04-22-2009 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lindy (Post 2627426)
**clouds part and angels sing**



god. Bless. tfp

thespian86 04-22-2009 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strange Famous (Post 2627300)
If you get head a girl while watching football or rugby, is that kind of gay?

Not at all. Today I listed my five favorite things in order to the girl I'm sleeping with: Art, Pot, Sex, Coffee, and Football. I said the perfect moment for me would be fucking an artist after smoking pot and having a cup of coffee, while watching football.

robot_parade 04-22-2009 08:23 PM

All I can say after reading this thread is, *damn* it's been too long since I've had a blowjob. *sniff*. :-(

Plan9 04-22-2009 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robot_parade (Post 2627452)
All I can say after reading this thread is, *damn* it's been too long since I've had a blowjob. *sniff*. :-(

I know, right? I'm getting all misty over here thinking about this time last year. :sad:

I'm with ya, brother.

Willravel 04-22-2009 09:25 PM

Misty? Is that slang, like "skeet skeet"?

Plan9 04-22-2009 10:14 PM

...and I thought you were cultured.

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I'm disappointed, Mr. Ravel. I did not expect you to die, I expected you to tell me about your experiences receiving topless knobslobberings.

*big sad puppy face*

Charlatan 04-23-2009 05:55 AM

So long as I'm not getting a blumpie... I'm good.

snowy 04-23-2009 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lindy (Post 2627426)
No guy is going to be getting any head from me if he's not willing to shut off the damn TV.:grumpy: Oh, or did you mean while watching the match at the stadium?:confused:

Personally, I like giving head while a guy is distracted by something else--it's like a challenge!

raptor9k 04-23-2009 12:25 PM

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Confederate 04-23-2009 12:28 PM

how is this a discussion? women being topless makes everything better. END OF THREAD

The_Jazz 04-23-2009 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Confederate (Post 2627735)
how is this a discussion? women being topless makes everything better. END OF THREAD


Duh. Water is also wet.

Plan9 04-23-2009 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Jazz (Post 2627765)
Duh. Water is also wet.

Frankly, I'm disappointed with your response, father.

No witty quip, no cheap shot at my grammar, no pearl of wisdom popped outta your watertight Upstanding Citizen (TM) blowhole... nothing.

I need your love! :wave:

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I offer boobs AND oral sex with colorful descriptors and all I get is a halfhearted "Duh" remark?!

Willravel 04-23-2009 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin (Post 2627769)
Frankly, I'm disappointed with your response, father.

Welp, that's about the creepiest thing I've ever read on TFP. :expressionless:

ItWasMe 04-23-2009 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratbastid (Post 2627077)
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Not to stray into the slightly more serious topic this thread prompts, but the power dynamics of oral sex are very interesting. While it may seem that the receiver is subjugating the performer, I assert that ALL the power in the whole thing is in the er... hands of the blower, not the blowee...

Well, you kind of beat me to it, Ratbastid, but I'm going to say it anyway...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin (Post 2627014)

Is it the subtle feeling of dominance over a shirtless kneeling partner?

I think it's absolutely hilarious that a guy would feel any feeling of dominance over a person who has her sharp teeth wrapped around his private parts. :lol: Thanks for the laugh!

Plan9 04-23-2009 10:18 PM

*refrains from going off on a complacent-woman-as-fuck-prop dominance tangent*

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItWasMe (Post 2627934)
I think it's absolutely hilarious that a guy would feel any feeling of dominance over a person who has her sharp teeth wrapped around his private parts. :lol: Thanks for the laugh!

Oh, she's not so dangerous when I hide her dentures. :devious:

Poppinjay 04-24-2009 04:48 AM

http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:...520robbins.jpg
Approves the change in direction of this thread

kramus 04-24-2009 08:22 AM

FWIW Crompsin, my Lady brought this thread up in conversation last night. She was surprised that there had been no comments on the validity of your purported study, and was offended and appalled at the weakness and lack of rigour in what reads as a scientific endeavor. I replied that it was an all-in-fun bit of fluff thread which may or may not bring up some interesting points, but was not a serious take on the scientific method. She replied that it is all good to have fun, but if you are going to structure your thread around science, you ought to make some effort/gesture to accomodate science.

Where are your controls, she asks. Where is the data on clothed GoH vs topless/nude GoH vis-a-vis total satisfaction? What measures/values/quantifiable results demonstrate any credibility, dependability, or confirmability? What are the benchmarks, the repeatable phenomenon, the goals that allow repeatability of results and reliable forecasting of outcome?

She ended her riff by suggesting that you will never get head from a scientist if this is the sloppy methodology you demonstrate - that there must be some accountability here.

I never thought that there would be a reason for you to revisit the structure of your study until my Lady opened my eyes. The very real possibility exists that there are men out there who could be deprived of Scientific Method based improvement in the head they may get. Simply because these men are not willing to give science it's due :shakehead:

Now, I tell you from first hand experience that when a thoroughbred decides to go for improvement, repeatable results and refinement of various techniques which are all dedicated to outcome, there is no substitute for guided experience coupled with applied sensual intelligence.

My .02 cents.

JumpinJesus 04-24-2009 07:19 PM

Communication is key. If that doesn't work, run away as fast as you can.

Charlatan 04-24-2009 07:30 PM

So Kramus... did your lovely lady offer to assist you in furthering the science of this or was she just blowing smoke (so to speak).

What kind of scientist isn't willing to test a theory to see of it's valid?

settie 04-24-2009 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin (Post 2627309)
TFP Ladies: How do you feel about this topic? Do you find it more enjoyable to give your partner oral sex sans shirt?

I prefer giving blowjobs topless.

My fave blowjobs have always started by pinning my man against a wall or door, and slowly pulling my clothes off as I tease him. My method is similar to lindy from there on, pressing myself against him, and finally touching his cock with my tongue.

Like lindy, one of the main reasons I give blowjobs topless is because of the opportunity for titty fucking, and because my man is more likely to play with my breasts during a blowjob if they're uncovered, which I love. :thumbsup:

And I have to agree with ItWasMe... I fail to see how a man could feel dominant during a blowjob...with perhaps one exception: when a man thrusts himself into your mouth. Yeah, he really has control/dominance there, for a short while.
But, when I give a blowjob, the man turns to jello, and I do as I please... haha.

ItWasMe 04-25-2009 12:05 AM

I like getting my hair brushed while I'm doing it. As for being topless, I think we're both pretty much always naked when messing around. There is something great about bare skin on bare skin, no matter which body parts are involved.

Plan9 04-25-2009 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kramus (Post 2628097)
FWIW Crompsin, my Lady brought this thread up in conversation last night. She was surprised that there had been no comments on the validity of your purported study, and was offended and appalled at the weakness and lack of rigour in what reads as a scientific endeavor. I replied that it was an all-in-fun bit of fluff thread which may or may not bring up some interesting points, but was not a serious take on the scientific method. She replied that it is all good to have fun, but if you are going to structure your thread around science, you ought to make some effort/gesture to accomodate science.

Where are your controls, she asks. Where is the data on clothed GoH vs topless/nude GoH vis-a-vis total satisfaction? What measures/values/quantifiable results demonstrate any credibility, dependability, or confirmability? What are the benchmarks, the repeatable phenomenon, the goals that allow repeatability of results and reliable forecasting of outcome?

She ended her riff by suggesting that you will never get head from a scientist if this is the sloppy methodology you demonstrate - that there must be some accountability here.

I never thought that there would be a reason for you to revisit the structure of your study until my Lady opened my eyes. The very real possibility exists that there are men out there who could be deprived of Scientific Method based improvement in the head they may get. Simply because these men are not willing to give science it's due :shakehead:

Now, I tell you from first hand experience that when a thoroughbred decides to go for improvement, repeatable results and refinement of various techniques which are all dedicated to outcome, there is no substitute for guided experience coupled with applied sensual intelligence.

*throws down gauntlet*

What? HUH? Oh, it's on! I'll deal with this mockery in a bit.

I'm off to do more research, but I'll handle this insulting critique soon.

genuinegirly 04-25-2009 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strange Famous (Post 2627300)

If you get head while watching football or rugby, is that kind of gay?

As long as it's a woman giving the blowjob, I don't see how it could be considered gay.

I'm turned on by athletes. I love watching the athletic men run around the field in tight pants. My idea of a little slice of heaven is to give a bj while watching a football game on TV. My husband is completely turned off when watching sports, though. This makes football season a long, sexually frustrating time of the year.

This girly's nipples are extra sensitive. I'd rather do it with a bra or shirt and keep control over the situation. Otherwise I end up pleasured before he does, and that - while fun - ruins the sense of dominance.

Shaindra 04-25-2009 08:34 AM

Yeah, this thread just made me hot...again. *wanders off to ponder how I can get reliable good sex without actually having to date to do it*

kramus 04-26-2009 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlatan (Post 2628377)
So Kramus... did your lovely lady offer to assist you in furthering the science of this or was she just blowing smoke (so to speak).

What kind of scientist isn't willing to test a theory to see of it's valid?

Actually my Lady was concerned because there didn't appear to be real science underpinning the study. That being said, she experiments and tests in ways that a non-scientist spouse finds, well, a bit unnerving :expressionless:

Example - have you heard of 2-point perception testing? Where you determine nerve density and composition by using a pair of sharp points pressed into skin and vary the distance between the points? The goal is to see how far apart the points are before there is a distinct perception of 2 separate places of contact. In the early days of our relationship I sat on a couch, eyes closed, while my Lady applied broken toothpicks to my rampant courting-tackle. She was amazed at how few nerve endings were apparent in some of the different areas tested. It was, shall we say, unnerving.

The application of hot and cold - ice cubes and hot coffee - those experiments are sometimes still brought into play. Or foreign objects such as an olive pit held in her mouth and applied with varied speed/pressure to my essentials. Humming, sighs, various tools such as the use of vibrators on my scrotum/shaft/glans . . . been there many times. Positional changes, light changes, types of eye contact with and without mirrors. What is said and how, the presentation of breasts, back, belly - how the hair is held in the hands (mine or hers), left loose, or tied in pony tails (the position of the pony tail varies depending on whether it is to be used as a handle or a visual prop, we find). What sorts of places, public, indoor, outdoor, natural or man-made give the greatest thrill or allow her as the GoH the greatest freedom of movement when doing her thing. What kinds of music. If in water, should the water be running as in a shower, still like in a bath, cold like a stream, deeper and underwater like in a pool, heated like a hot tub, indoors or out, what is a good immersion depth for me, for her . . . Should I be filming the act, the orgasm, experiencing the orgasm with various types of either her or my own hand contact or her licking tongue. If suction is applied during the orgasm how much and with what varied types of sucking action before, during and after orgasm? How long to continue to lick or to suck, to wipe my still stiff cock across her lips and cheeks, or stroke with her hands? While telling me about how she had enjoyed my orgasm she goes through a checklist to determine what could be done to improve it or change it up. And most important - give her a number :thumbsup: Was it an 8, a 9, maybe only a 5 or a 6 - once a 10 (but I always say 10's mean you die, so they don't happen often).

Charlatan, I can say without fear of contradiction that my Lady does not just blow smoke, and the Scientific Method is often brought into play in the Manor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin (Post 2628450)
*throws down gauntlet*

What? HUH? Oh, it's on! I'll deal with this mockery in a bit.

I'm off to do more research, but I'll handle this insulting critique soon.

Please understand, Crompsin, the critique was not meant to be insulting. It was more of a complaint that there was no real science in what was supposed to be a scientific study. That being said, I fully support anyone who is willing to both do research and share the results here. Afterall, we are interested in the growth of the community and the individuals within the community are what make that happen. And knowledge gained will lead to that growth.

If willing, please post pictures - my Lady is out of town and I'm horny after running a speed-tape of knowledge gained in the Manor through my mind in order to write this post :crazy:

Shaindra 04-27-2009 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kramus (Post 2628994)
Actually my Lady was concerned because there didn't appear to be real science underpinning the study. That being said, she experiments and tests in ways that a non-scientist spouse finds, well, a bit unnerving :expressionless:

Example - have you heard of 2-point perception testing? Where you determine nerve density and composition by using a pair of sharp points pressed into skin and vary the distance between the points? The goal is to see how far apart the points are before there is a distinct perception of 2 separate places of contact. In the early days of our relationship I sat on a couch, eyes closed, while my Lady applied broken toothpicks to my rampant courting-tackle. She was amazed at how few nerve endings were apparent in some of the different areas tested. It was, shall we say, unnerving.

The application of hot and cold - ice cubes and hot coffee - those experiments are sometimes still brought into play. Or foreign objects such as an olive pit held in her mouth and applied with varied speed/pressure to my essentials. Humming, sighs, various tools such as the use of vibrators on my scrotum/shaft/glans . . . been there many times. Positional changes, light changes, types of eye contact with and without mirrors. What is said and how, the presentation of breasts, back, belly - how the hair is held in the hands (mine or hers), left loose, or tied in pony tails (the position of the pony tail varies depending on whether it is to be used as a handle or a visual prop, we find). What sorts of places, public, indoor, outdoor, natural or man-made give the greatest thrill or allow her as the GoH the greatest freedom of movement when doing her thing. What kinds of music. If in water, should the water be running as in a shower, still like in a bath, cold like a stream, deeper and underwater like in a pool, heated like a hot tub, indoors or out, what is a good immersion depth for me, for her . . . Should I be filming the act, the orgasm, experiencing the orgasm with various types of either her or my own hand contact or her licking tongue. If suction is applied during the orgasm how much and with what varied types of sucking action before, during and after orgasm? How long to continue to lick or to suck, to wipe my still stiff cock across her lips and cheeks, or stroke with her hands? While telling me about how she had enjoyed my orgasm she goes through a checklist to determine what could be done to improve it or change it up. And most important - give her a number :thumbsup: Was it an 8, a 9, maybe only a 5 or a 6 - once a 10 (but I always say 10's mean you die, so they don't happen often).

Charlatan, I can say without fear of contradiction that my Lady does not just blow smoke, and the Scientific Method is often brought into play in the Manor.



Please understand, Crompsin, the critique was not meant to be insulting. It was more of a complaint that there was no real science in what was supposed to be a scientific study. That being said, I fully support anyone who is willing to both do research and share the results here. Afterall, we are interested in the growth of the community and the individuals within the community are what make that happen. And knowledge gained will lead to that growth.

If willing, please post pictures - my Lady is out of town and I'm horny after running a speed-tape of knowledge gained in the Manor through my mind in order to write this post :crazy:

The sex geek in me is quivering at the thought of all that knowledge to be gained and topics to be explored. :thumbsup:

piismyname 04-27-2009 04:10 PM

Wow. My first inclination is to answer 'topless is obviously better', but after reading Kramus' recounting of rigorous experiments, I no longer have any confidence in how accurate my statement was. I am in awe of his Lady, and wondering if she offers lessons to other women?

ratbastid 04-27-2009 04:11 PM

Naturally Kramus hasn't pointed out how massively flawed her methods are, since she only has a sample population of one....

Plan9 04-27-2009 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratbastid (Post 2629357)
Naturally Kramus hasn't pointed out how massively flawed her methods are, since she only has a sample population of one....

Send in the stunt cocks!

The_Jazz 04-27-2009 04:45 PM

Leave it to Crompsin to do a scientific study with no actual science. Or study. Buddy, I'm amazed that we aren't learning that this study is "conducted" with no one else in the room, simply using your own legendary flexibility.

Crompsin: self-abuse pioneer. Coming soon to Tilted Exhibition - Crompsin's Roll Back Foto's!

Did I cover the gamut there? Let's see, witty quip, pearl of wisdom, mockery of your butchery of your mother tongue. Yep. Got it all.

Plan9 04-27-2009 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Jazz (Post 2629375)
Leave it to Crompsin to do a scientific study with no actual science. Or study. Buddy, I'm amazed that we aren't learning that this study is "conducted" with no one else in the room, simply using your own legendary flexibility.

Crompsin: self-abuse pioneer. Coming soon to Tilted Exhibition - Crompsin's Roll Back Foto's!

Did I cover the gamut there? Let's see, witty quip, pearl of wisdom, mockery of your butchery of your mother tongue. Yep. Got it all.

...but I can't see Tilted Exhibition. You took my porn / poultry privileges months ago. :rolleyes: Gawd, sorry I ruined your bathroom break copy of Hustler.

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The gamut was covered. Yes, I am satisfied. Was it good for you? "Duh." Oh, you're such a kidder.

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Truth be told: I tested my half-ass hypothesis yet again this weekend and additional factors came into play: man standing while topless woman is sitting on the floor proves to be utterly satisfying in a pulling-up-carpet-with-my-toes / pert nipples grazing my thighs kinda way and issues related to room temperature and body position became a new concern. As previously mentioned: general feeling is that topless is always better and that breasts, the source of life and amusement for many men, should be involved in every blowjob. So far the thread consensus follows my finding. Further "research" will be necessary to prove boobs = doubleplusgood satisfaction causation. I'm willing to continue this laborious endeavor in the name of science, waking up sleeping roommates, and prostate health. It's a tough job, but somebody has to clench their teeth as their soul is vacuumed out of their inflamed crotchbat.

And that somebody is Crompsin.

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Fuck, it's hot outside and it isn't even summer yet. Can it be too hot for oral sex? Mmm, another thread brewing.

COMING SOON FROM UNIVERSITY OF CROMPSIN: Female-on-top positions and proper box fan placement.

mixedmedia 04-27-2009 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ratbastid (Post 2627077)
Not to stray into the slightly more serious topic this thread prompts, but the power dynamics of oral sex are very interesting. While it may seem that the receiver is subjugating the performer, I assert that ALL the power in the whole thing is in the er... hands of the blower, not the blowee. For me, part of what I love is surrendering and letting her have her way with me.

You know. With her boobs out.

While it is true that submission is, in a way, top down dominance (and vice versa). All it takes is the assumption of the roles to make them true. True enough, at least. :)

kramus 04-27-2009 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratbastid (Post 2629357)
Naturally Kramus hasn't pointed out how massively flawed her methods are, since she only has a sample population of one....

There is knowledge for knowledge’s sake. Collecting and collating, gathering and garnering. The worker bees of pure science would indeed feel that a sample population of one is no population at all. After all, if you have only one data point you have no reference point. In another forum my signature line reads "Absent a mechanism for connecting symbol structures to experienced reality, thinking is nothing more than empty symbol crunching." Charles S. Peirce It is quite possible that a single data point when considered separate from the reality of application outside of my particular pair-bond is nothing more than another empty symbol set.

However, there is a key consideration regarding the sample population my Lady is working with that is very relevant to Ratbastid's post. My Lady is not creating data for the benefit of the larger world. There is no intent to add to anything outside of our own relationship. Understand this, she is applying herself to one goal and one goal only. That goal is my own personal pleasure and my complete satisfaction with her and what she does with/to me. My orgasm is her orgasm. My having an ever-upward climb in my sexual satisfaction within our pair-bond makes her happy, fulfilled and satisfied. That sample size of one is the end-goal of her study, her application, her rigour. That in turn means that you need to invert that statement, Ratbastid. My Lady's methods are not massively flawed. Indeed, they are quite the opposite. They are perfectly applied and yielding results which are (trust me in this) very positive.

/threadjack

Now, if Charlatan had not asked if my Lady was just blowing smoke I would have only made my original post regarding some concerns that I had heard about Crompsin's "science". Being the recipient of a dedicated scientist's study in the arts of eros makes it worthwhile to at least let people out there know that true science, when brought into play in this particular manner, is totally awesome :thumbsup: I have responded to Charlatan and let him know that if there are smoke and mirrors being brought into play in the Manor, it is because they are being used as pleasure props.

Any further study, any larger sample size, any other application of what can be learned regarding GoH and increase of pleasure in the RoH is not the concern of this couple. We are doing our own part, using the scientific method to make beautiful love even more so, and we are very happy doing it. If other couples (such as the self-proclaimed sex-geek Shaindra) take what we have been doing and explore/expand on it themselves that is great. It is however, not a goal to go outside our own pair-bond and accumulate data sets involving cocks other than mine :)

/end threadjack

ratbastid 04-27-2009 06:37 PM

Well rebutted, my friend. :thumbsup:

CinnamonGirl 04-27-2009 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaindra (Post 2628483)
*wanders off to ponder how I can get reliable good sex without actually having to date to do it*


If you find out, let me know, please.



For the record, I like to leave my bra on. Just a personal preference.

FlatLand Flyer 04-27-2009 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CinnamonGirl (Post 2629426)
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For the record, I like to leave my bra on. Just a personal preference.

BOO!!

Topless=More gooder no matter the situation.

BlueStar 04-30-2009 02:43 AM

Topless most of the time, definitely. But some of the most memorable I've gotten were fully clothed. It comes across as slightly illicit, which is cool. I'm thinking of one time I spent a night with my partner, and in the morning we got dressed and I was getting ready to leave for work, when she sat me down, unzipped me and gave me a bj (making me late for work, but that was ok). She actually wanted to give me a second one the same way and make me even later. I should have taken her up on it ;).

curiousbear 05-04-2009 10:29 PM

snowy/Shanindra/Lindy, I wish my girl reads this thread :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowy (Post 2627142)
I asked my SO what he thought. He replied, "Isn't it obvious?"

Apparently a topless girl is always better than a clothed one.

I'll have to remember that for next time, though honestly, I prefer to do it topless, because I like to bring my breasts into play.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaindra (Post 2627393)
My preference is him prone, and me naked, so I can start off the action by sort of caressing his cock with my stomach, breasts, and face while maintaining eye contact the entire time. No hands, no tongue yet...all body movements. Then I begin with my "signature move" of the firm, flat tongue pressing the cock flat against his belly while licking slowly from balls to tip, again, maintaining eye contact.

This all works much better without a shirt on.

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Originally Posted by Lindy (Post 2627426)
This lady will definitely vote for topless. I love giving head. I don't know if I find it more enjoyable sans shirt, but my partners always seem to like it when I can involve my big 34D girls and maybe a little bit of lube.:thumbsup: I always like to give quite a bit of hand as well as mouth action, and being shirtless allows for some titty fucking at the same time.

Lindy

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Originally Posted by snowy (Post 2627603)
Personally, I like giving head while a guy is distracted by something else--it's like a challenge!

From the receiving end, a delayed climax is intense!

I prefer topless due to visual stimulation, touch/feel. Forget about BJ, even a self handjob works great with a pair of boobs to see ;)

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Originally Posted by ItWasMe (Post 2627934)
I think it's absolutely hilarious that a guy would feel any feeling of dominance over a person who has her sharp teeth wrapped around his private parts. :lol: Thanks for the laugh!

Quote:

Originally Posted by genuinegirly (Post 2628465)
This girly's nipples are extra sensitive. I'd rather do it with a bra or shirt and keep control over the situation. Otherwise I end up pleasured before he does, and that - while fun - ruins the sense of dominance.

ItWasMe, I never felt sense of dominance receiving BJ. I am mostly laid on my back... But see genuinegirly's post.

Plan9 05-05-2009 06:44 AM

I'll have you all know that my "science" is good for prostate health.

I'm here for you.

dksuddeth 05-09-2009 08:04 PM

hmmmm, lets see.....blowjob from topless woman or blowjob from woman wearing top.....

I got to say that I think the only reason a topless one would be better is if the blowjob part isn't that great to begin with. seriously....if the oral part is great, who cares about the rest?

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Originally Posted by settie (Post 2628401)
I prefer giving blowjobs topless.

My fave blowjobs have always started by pinning my man against a wall or door, and slowly pulling my clothes off as I tease him. My method is similar to lindy from there on, pressing myself against him, and finally touching his cock with my tongue.

And I was doing serious consideration of scientific research to prove my side of the argument.......until YOU came along and ruined every bit of concentration I had. Thanks. I think I'm going to my bunk now.

settie 05-09-2009 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dksuddeth (Post 2634322)
And I was doing serious consideration of scientific research to prove my side of the argument.......until YOU came along and ruined every bit of concentration I had. Thanks. I think I'm going to my bunk now.

:lol:
Clearly both topless and clothed methods must still be studied extensively. Sorry I can't be of further help ;) :rolleyes:

Plan9 05-09-2009 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by settie (Post 2634346)
Sorry I can't be of further help ;) :rolleyes:

Actually...

Quote:

Originally Posted by dksuddeth (Post 2634322)
I got to say that I think the only reason a topless one would be better is if the blowjob part isn't that great to begin with. seriously....if the oral part is great, who cares about the rest?

Uh, did you fail Male School math, DK? Blowjob + heaving breasts = Doubleplusgood. Get with the program, chachi!

Shaindra 05-10-2009 08:29 AM

Damnitall. Please stop bumping this thread while I am sans partner to test out these theories further.

Thank you.

vinceco252 05-10-2009 09:25 AM

^Sorry.

jewels 06-06-2009 05:34 AM

Of course it's better topless. If I were still clothed, I wouldn't be that into it.

Once a lady's topless, it becomes a much more sensual experience. More sensual = more aroused = enhanced experience for all.

Plan9 06-09-2009 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaindra (Post 2634444)
Damnitall. Please stop bumping this thread while I am sans partner to test out these theories further.

Thank you.

Quit whining! Women complaining about not being able to give oral sex is like a fat guy complaining that he can't get out to the store to buy more Twinkies!

You gotta put a little effort in to get that cream filling. It can't be that hard. You're holding the commodity between your chin and nose.

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Or... just get on Craig's List and it'll come right to you.

Shaindra 06-11-2009 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin (Post 2648607)
Quit whining! Women complaining about not being able to give oral sex is like a fat guy complaining that he can't get out to the store to buy more Twinkies!

You gotta put a little effort in to get that cream filling. It can't be that hard. You're holding the commodity between your chin and nose.

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Or... just get on Craig's List and it'll come right to you.

Yeah, but it can't be just any ole weiner. And it has to come with some hope of decent reciprocation. :thumbsup:

And CL? Gah! I'll buy a used lawnmower on there, but a second-hand cock? No thanks.

TomSmith65 06-15-2009 11:44 PM

I have to agree ... even topless ax murdering is better than fully clothed. I mean, If you have to be ax murdered anyway, seeing a pair of boobies as the blade does its nasty work is the way to go.

Am I wrong?

Plan9 06-15-2009 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomSmith65 (Post 2652362)
I have to agree ... even topless ax murdering is better than fully clothed. I mean, If you have to be ax murdered anyway, seeing a pair of boobies as the blade does its nasty work is the way to go.

Am I wrong?

If you liked this, SEE: Friday the 13th (horror film series), Nightmare on Elmstreet (Horror film series), Halloween (horror film series)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaindra (Post 2650240)
weiner.

Hahaha... my god, people actually use that.


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