Legalizing Prostitution for 2010 World Cup
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I've always been of the mind that prostitution should be legal as long as it's between consenting adults. In that case, why is it anybody else's business what they do with their money or body. |
I really don't see any reason for government to interfere with consenting adults engaging in whatever sexual pleasures they desire.
What gets me about that BBC News quote is the "young girls" part. Makes my skin crawl to think there are underage girls out there forced into this life. In my mind: adult prostitution = whatever. Human trafficking = TERRIBLE CRIME. |
If marriage and dating are legal, so should prostitution.
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The idiot minister who said that it would reduce the number of rates has his head up his ass, though - rape isn't about sex, it's about power and violence. Prostitutes aren't the ones being raped - it's the average jane who gets robbed in her house (usually it's robbed, raped and strangled - triple threat). I live in SA, and believe me when I say that we have one of the highest rape rates in the world, and it has NOTHING to do with there not being enough prostitutes walking the streets... |
Yeah, I pretty much think that adult prostitution should be legal everywhere. In general, I think outlawing "vices" only leads to more crime, to making the vices worse, and to ever-more-unhealthy abuse of people, their rights, and their space.
I'm not saying I think prostitution is all woo-hoo great-- don't get me wrong. I don't think it's at all an optimal way for people to relate to one another sexually. But the least we can do, by legalizing it, is to try to assure that any person working as a prostitute is of legal age, doing so of their own free will, and being given safe working conditions and fair treatment. |
I really don't see the problem with making prostitution legal. It works in many counties in Nevada just fine, and they go through the proper steps to make sure it's safe.
To me, it can only come out with pros. There will be a heavy reduction in prostitution-related homicides, presumably suicides, venereal diseases, children in poverty (okay, not a HEAVY reduction, but there's less chance of a hooker getting involuntarily knocked up), crime rates (no need for pimps), etc. |
Come to Australia. It is already legal and licensed here.
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12/0 to legalize in Tilted Sexuality, who would have thought that'd be the outcome. :-)
Seriously, the US has to get over itself. Why the government has any say in that is beyond me. I guess there is some validity to licensing and ensuring the safety of the workers, but beyond that? Stupid Puritanical country... <rant>Much like the government getting involved when two people say they love each other, commit to a lifetime of supporting each other and participate in a religious ceremony. Guess what, now you can volunteer to get taxed differently. WTF, anyway, that's a whole 'nother conversation.</rant> |
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It's all fun and games until the pimps come and try to create an empire for themselves.
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As to the OP, if the local community doesn't want the headache associated with legalized prostitution - the mandatory health tests, inspections to make sure everyone is of age and being treated well, etc. - then they should be free to keep it criminalized. If they are willing to undertake the responsibility, I'm all for it. It's not for me to impose my morality on someone else. Quote:
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In regards to the OP, I agree with The_Jazz--it's an issue that needs to be left up to the individual community, in regards to whether or not they want to take on those responsibilities. |
While i do agree that it should be left up to the smaller communities, I personally think it should be legalized. The US government is in a lot of debt right now, and another source of taxable income would be nice to have right now. Especially with the money it's going to be paying out to former IndyMac customers.
Legalize, then tax it and regulate it. Seems fairly win-win. |
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hint: you can't because it hasn't. Prostitution is legal in Nevada and Rhode Island (although brothels aren't). The only tax that the feds would get is from income tax. Want to try again? |
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I think the biggest issue is that these are not community decisions, these are decisions that face individual's freedoms to sell or buy sex. If there's a health risk associated with it, legalize it, tax it to support the infrastructure, then maybe tax it more to make a profit for the state. You can't say, don't push morality on me, then force no prostitution where I live. You shouldn't have to move to live your life the way you want to, but if things are outlawed selectively, then you find that you do need to move to pursue that.
Odd, since I am not interested in prostitution, and never will be, but I want people to be able to live their life in a reasonable and dignified way. Legalizing it would help that, I'd think. It is still going to happen, its just going to happen out of sight and off the radar. |
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Add that to the fact that for your scheme to work, prostitution would have to be legalized in 48 states, and I think that your scheme becomes completely unworkable. In a vacuum, it's a pretty idea, but with real world ramifications, it falls apart instantly. Quote:
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If you've been in a town that has a strip club not named Scores and seen the neighborhood, I can't see how anybody would think it wouldn't be any worse if that's a localized area where prostitutes can congregate and ply their trade. |
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This is a states' rights issue. Period. There is no national question here. If you don't like the rules in your state, vote to change them. But don't tell me that I have to vote for it in my state if I don't want to. If my neighbors and I don't want a legal brothel down the street, you have no authority to tell me that I'm wrong. That's my point here. You don't get to impose your morality on me any more than I do on you. I admit that my church analogy is sloppy at best, but it was the best I could concoct at the time. I live in Chicago. I support the smoking ban, since I don't smoke and I felt that it intruded on my enjoyment in bars and restaurants. My city voted to ban the practice in bars and restaurants. My alderman knew my thoughts on the matter since I told him several times, both in email and in person. I am assuming that you don't live in Chicago (if you do, let's get together and have a beer sometime - seriously), so as a resident of another city, you're perfectly able to enact your own smoking ban or vote against one. Local rules for local issues. |
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Agreed. I think smoking should definitely be banned, as you're being forced to breathe it in. If two people are off fucking and one of them is paying the other one for it, it doesn't affect my health at all. But if the majority doesn't want it, I agree brothels shouldn't be allowed. I was merely saying I'm in favor of it. |
Meh, people are engaging in this practice in probably every town in the US. It's like pot to me. Pot and prostitution are both illegal. How many people here couldn't find a hooker and a couple grams of bud in the next, say, two hours? Legalize it, vice laws don't work and never have. You're never going to stop people from indulging these vices. Remind me how that whole prohibition thing worked out? You can talk about an increase in tax rev. all you want. There may well be some but , IMHO, the amount saved not trying to enforce these unenforceable laws would dwarf any taxes gained. Then LE could focus on crimes like theft, burglary, rape (and all other sex offenses) and murder.
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TullyMars, I couldn't agree more. Anybody who wants either of those things bad enough is going to get it, especially if they have a surplus of funds. America wastes time and money locking up prostitutes and pot smokers.
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A lot of jurisdictions can and do seize your home and property if you're caught growing. In Portland Or they passed a law that any "Johns" picked up in a prostitution sting would loose their vehicle. Didn't matter if they owned it or the bank held the title. Get caught, loose your car and still make the payments. For some reason right after that stings increased about 3X, maybe more. So did police vehicle auctions. I have a friend who bought a nice Z28 from one. Anyone who thinks money and funding doesn't figure into this is ill informed, IMHO. |
Isn't buying a girl dinner so she sleeps with you kinda like prostitution anyways?
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For that matter, pornstars get paid to fuck. Ahh, to hell with it. |
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The only problem with leagalizing prostitution, drugs, etc... is the effect it has on society and others. An example would be heroine addicts whom become addicted to smack, lose their jobs, and are forced to steal from people to provide the income for their habit. That's only one example of negative effects that these habits may have on society. Some may make the arguments that alcohol, gambling, and other legal vices in this country can have the same consequences. However, differences include how addictive these activities are, and how mind altering they are. Alcohol, for example, is less addictive, and less mind altering, than crystal meth. I was just arguing this with my roommate, so I felt compelled to write it. I also should mention that I don't think that prostitutes are as addictive as crystal meth. XD |
I agree with someone who pointed out the nonsense about legalized prostitution reducing the rate of rape.
And I am not averse to it being legalized, but I do believe it should be regulated and HEAVILY. And I hope that the government in S Africa really does give these women and, uh, young girls safe environments in which to work in. I'm skeptical, though. That's not something you just whip together in a year or two. |
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I'm making myself available for Kristi Yamaguchi.
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Power, Anger and Sadistic Power and anger each making up about 45% of all rape while sadistic roughly 10% (don't quote me on these numbers, it's been a while) Of course these numbers and "types" don't account for things like date, spousal, prison rape etc... but there are those out there that don't place these sexual offenses in the rape category. Rape is a power and control thing, paying a hooker to blow you usually isn't. As for your other comments. I'd hope the regulations in place for those in the sex industry would safe guard workers at least as well as OSHA does for any other industry. |
Speaking of which: Prostitution measure makes it onto S.F. ballot
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