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Massage + Happy Ending
Who here has had a massage with a happy ending?
Was it planned, or a last minute thing? Did you have to pay extra? Anything else you want to share? its nothing that I have ever experienced. But I am wondering about it. |
It is something I came close to doing the last time I was in Sydney (Darlinghurst St.). If there was any place in the world where that could have happened, that was it. Well, at least where I've been, I'm sure there are other places in the world where this happens. But, I ran out of money and didn't want to get any more. Plus, I had no idea how much it would have been (if anything?). I've also never paid for a massage and don't know if you get to pick the person giving you the massage or not.
I'm wondering if male masseuse would give 'happy ending' to female clients. I would guess the girl would have to come out and request it. I don't think a male masseuse would be that forward. |
When I give a massage to my SO, I'm always up for providing my services.
Getting some action from a woman I don't know? Shit no. There are 40,000 people a year diagnosed with AIDS, and that's just the worst of the STDs. 45m people in the US have herpes. Besides, I'm not the type to fool around at all. |
Will, a "Happy Ending" typically entails being finished off with a handjob. Very little risk of STDs there if any at all.
And I'm far too sensitive (read: ticklish) across my lower back for a massage. By the time the massage were done and it'd be time to finish me off, I'd probably be limp with embarrassment for giggling like a school girl. |
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No will, they give them to you! |
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Guy I used to work with used to brag about the fact that his g/f was completely fine with it. So even if the Mrs. were willing enough not to look at it as infidelity you'd still be against it? Crack, that's hilarious. Kudos. |
Manic_Skafe: that's funny, because I'm 100% sure that I know at least 10x the number of people that would mind...
Just because you know a few that don't mind, doesn't make it something universal. Have had massages, never had a happy ending, and I would really prefer not to have it either. (the fact that most of them were guys is my #1 motivator, but, I'm not the type to fool around and it *would* feel like that to me, no matter what way you spin it). |
Only from girls I was dating at the time.
Except for that one time in Rio. |
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But seriously, it IS an infidelity thing. It's also a "handjobs are for 7th graders" thing, but that's not as important. I simply will not cheat regardless of the circumstances. Quote:
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That said, I've never ruled out an arrangement of multiple partners, so long as it's also a serious commitment. The point is that I am monogamous by nature. |
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And it's not that the handjob isn't a sexual act. I believe the casual attitude stems from the idea that cheating involves a significant emotional investment in someone outside of your relationship. And that sexual openness, acknowledgment of your desires and open communication with your s/o make for a healthy relationship. The couples that I know who are fine with it seem to figure that an allowance of this sort works positively for their relationship as it promotes honesty and openness and very well may head off an actual affair at the pass. |
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I am a massage therapist. I have never been asked for a happy ending. If I were asked, by either gender, the session would be over immediately, and I would still insist on payment for them wasting my time.
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Will, I think the reason people are parsing what you say as closely as they are here is that your opinion ends up with a lot of people's choices and lifestyles being deemed "cheating". Also your definition of cheating diverges pretty dramatically from the long-established one we've arrived at here before, "it's cheating if you couldn't or wouldn't tell your significant other". Certainly MIGHT be the case about happy endings (and in most cases IS the case, I would imagine), but isn't NECESSARILY the case.
I completely respect your stand for your relationship and how you're committed to operating in it. JUST to get this thing back on track: I know a guy who claims that the woman who cuts his hair at Great Clips gives him a happy ending with his haircut. |
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Never happens to me, I even tip well!!!! :grumpy: /just kidding, i could never pay for sex. well i should never say never, but i don't see it happening. not my bag. I do have some mates that engage in this activity. |
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Massage Parlours are EVERYWHERE in Toronto. I would estimate 200 in the GTA. There's one about a 1 minute walk from my house and another about a 5 minute walk. The City of Toronto licenses all such facilities. (Though there are many who choose not to buy the license.)
I feel they serve an important purpose in the community in providing a sexual outlet for men (and women) who so desire it. As long as everyone is of age, I don't care what you do. There's nothing more dangerous than a hard up man walking around the streets. For 40 or 60 bucks he can get a massage with a handjob and take that edge away safely and privately. As to whether or not I've ever partaken in the sport? Yes I have - many times and will do so again (and again), I can assure you. And gasp, sometimes, I've even taken a GF there for a "Couple's Massage". Here's the protocol: $40.00 to $60.00 Room fee for 30 to 45 minutes. Enter MP and pay the room fee, proceed to room, have shower, lay on table face down waiting for MPA to enter. MPA enters and you make an arrangement with her for her services (all of which include the "happy ending" aka hand job.) $20.00 = topless $40.00 = nude $60.00 = nude reverse (you massage her) $80.00 to $100.00 = body slide (pretty much like it sounds) (The MPA's tend to get slightly put off if you don't opt for at least the nude reverse.) Couples massages obviously cost more because they take longer. The high end MPs don't do sex, maaaayybbbeee do BJ's (rare), probably allow DATY, etc. As you go down the food chain, BJ's enter the equation, as does sex. Depends what you want. I really don't chase after sex - what I'm looking for is a beautiful women who is extremely sexually gifted. She knows how to please a man in many more ways that just BJ's or using her vagina. (It's far easier to bring a man off with intercourse as opposed to erotic massage.) When completed, another shower and you're on your way, with a little bounce in your step and a smile on your face your friends don't understand. I've met some amazing women in the sex industry - smart, beautiful and sexual as hell. The only regrets I have are those that turn out to be duds, however, there are local review boards where guys post their experience with various women so you can usually do you homework and figure out who's a dud and who's not. Some examples of local high end MPs: http://alluremassage.ca/ http://www.handsfromheaven.ca/ http://www.royalspa.ca/ http://www.torontoplatinumspa.com/new/index.html |
By the very definition of faithful:
Adhering firmly and devotedly, as to a person, cause, or idea; loyal. people that have "permission" ARE being faithful...they are being faithful to the idea that they and their S/O have about their sexual life, whether that includes outside sexual contact or not. If Dave and I, or RB and Lurkette and StellaLuna all agree that our idea of outside sexual contact is OK, its just the same as Will and his partner agreeing its NOT ok....each group is staying faithful to THEIR idea. I get so sick and tired of people trying to say that outside sexual contact is being unfaithful regardless of what my S/O and I think, it makes me wanna puke funny story: Dave was in China working last year, he and his work buddies arranged to get a massage at the hotel they were at. I kidded with him about a "happy ending" and he pfft'd it off and said that wouldnt happen since it was the hotel staff doing it...I told him I thought he was wrong but ok. I get a phone call the next day and the first words out of his mouth were "go ahead and say I told you so" to which I started laughing hysterically lol Seems he got the only female, the other guys got males. She gave Dave his 1/2 hour massage when she says "Massage here (pointing to his torso and legs" over, Massage here (pointing at his weenie) cash only no charge to room" He had no cash on him. Even though he "could have" and I wouldnt have said a word, he didnt. boy were his workmates pissed they hadnt gotten a girl lol Quote:
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Mine isn't an agreement, though. Mine is personal morality. In my view, committing a sexual or romantic act with someone I'm not involved with constitutes disloyalty. That's not to say my interpretation extends to anyone else, but it is a firmly held conviction of my own behavior. It's a personal choice.
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I want to hear more stories about these places and less discussion about if it is cheating!
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The first night I met my current boyfriend, a massage turned into sex.
But the type of massage you're thinking of? Like The Masseuse? Nope. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Osss8-_zwichttp://youtube.com/watch?v=bA1_XfnVn_8 |
This is an interesting question. Seems a little outside the scope of a normal massage, much like using a finger to penetrate a woman could be considered massaging the vagina. Technically, yes a massage, but not really in the spirit of the original use of the word.
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Has anyone had a happy ending at the gynecologist?
That's just silly. Massage therapists are professionals who won't jeopardize their licenses. I know a couple of ladies who have established clienteles, who'd never think of anything beyond the scope of their professional services. I'm not sure what a massage "parlor" is, though. :p Each time I give a full body massage *sigh* it usually ends in sex. Unless he just did the lawn and showered, in which case I put him to sleep. |
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http://www.terb.ca/vbulletin/index.php (You will need to register however with an email address, otherwise, it comes up blank. It's a discussion board with a twist I suppose.) Look under Toronto Reviews, Toronto Massage. (You'll figure it out from there.) There's a million stories in the naked City as they say. (Please don't go here if you're going to pass judgement however. Nobody needs that.) |
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James T Kirk:
I greatly appreciate your honesty and insights in this thread. And I love the following... Quote:
Thanks. |
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However, there are more than a few former RMT's who have switched to the erotic massage industry since they are comfortable with human sexuality and they can parler their looks / massage skills into an income of several hundred thousand dollars a year (most of it cash). Like anything else however, there is always a downside and the sex industry is probably one industry with more downside than many other industries. |
They are fun, what is the harm?
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Toronto, here I come. (I'm hoping I'm being as literal as possible)
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I think it should be noted that there is a clear difference between licensed massage therapists, and the "Unlicensed Massage" section in the back of the Pitch featuring headings like "2 Hot Asian Sisters Massage". Come on. There isn't any trickery going on here. We know what we are after, massage or handjob, and seeking it out wouldn't be a problem if people didn't have such weird moral hangups that it became illegal to give money to a girl for whatever the hell she'll accept money for. Quote:
To answer the OP's question, I haven't had this happen, but I've been very interested in this. I've been asking the same question. I'm trying to understand the protocol, so that I get the right masseuse. I'd hate to have somebody get pissed off and end the session when all I was after was a good day for both of us. I get off and you get some more money. Where is the harm? By the way, fortunately I have a wife that distinguishes between getting off and our relationship. Though they are intertwined, honesty and openness(occasionally letting a person do something they desire) can go a long way toward sustaining a loving, lasting relationship. |
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I don't care if prostitution is made legal. Just stop calling it massage, OK? |
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Don't worry, Redlemon, we all respect you.
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But, will we still respect him in the morning? :uhh:
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I could never do it. Also paying for a hand job? I can give myself one for free, and I know how i like it!
Haha, I know I know, even a shitty hand job from a girl is better than one from myself, but still. I could never pay some stranger to pull it. Also I am deadly paranoid of getting a disease, yes I know hand jobs are probably as safe as they come, but "it" doesn't come out of my pants until she has been tested. And nothing will ever change that. |
if you think about it, without the emotional attachment involved, the happy ending is just part of the whole experience of a massage that gets you to relax all over head to toe. it's more "clearing out your pipes" than a romantic hookup. most cultures that have massage done by the opposite sex are fine with it morally, and i'd venture a guess that the only relationship ever ruined by it was one that'd have to be the definition of prudish and pretty close to over anyway.
as for being a therapist and being asked about happy endings.... really, pull the stick outta there :D it's no different than being tall and being asked about basketball or being a psychic and people asking you to read their palm at a party. it comes with the territory, and there's no harm intended. |
I think Redlemon has made it clear that it IS offensive. Also, if a place is going to give you a hand job, most likely you can turn it into a BJ for a few more bucks. Maybe for more, you can get it all. Be realistic, the "massage" is a way to legitimize prostitution.
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What do you mean legitimize prostitution? It doesn't make it legal, and I'm pretty sure it isn't making prostitutes feel any more or less like they met their childhood dream. I think it is a way to put a service that many people want in a position where it is reachable. Just a way the culture of the time operates. When prohibition was in effect there were speakeasies. They didn't legitimize alcohol, just put it where people knew how to find it. QED |
I am not going to argue my position any further.
(edit)... because I think I have made my position clear. If you don't understand or appreciate where I am coming from on this issue, there's nothing more I can do. I am not backing down on my opinion, however. |
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In all seriousness, if people can't tell the difference between someone like redlemon and the folks in the Craigslist "Erotic Serivces" section, they should be neutered anyway. |
How did this thread become about redlemon? Is he really the only massage therapist in the world?
And no, I've never had a happy ending after a massage. A Hitchcockian twist, yes, but not a happy ending. |
How about a Crying Game ending?
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This thread has mutated from what goes on in a Massage Parlour to Judgement day - paying for sex - bad. Christian Morality - good.
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I am *not* anti-sexual; I wouldn't survive on this board if I were. I am not even completely anti-prostitution; I'm just not comfortable with the human trafficking and slavery element of it. I just want the prostitutes to stop hiding behind the legitimacy of massage. Hell, the first time I received a professional massage (as a gift from my wife), I was uncomfortable. I wondered if the massage therapist would try to suggest sex, and I was wondering how to turn that down and still get a good massage. This sort of discomfort, I'm sure, keeps others away from trying massage. And massage is good. |
I would be too paranoid that the place would get busted by the cops and my name would be all over the news as one of the arrested participants.
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I wouldn't be interested in a "happy ending" after a massage. I doubt my husband would either, but if he was, I would be fine with it.
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I apologize Redlemon. I hope you don't think I am attacking you. I don't intend to. Quote:
As a side note; anybody can ask me to jerk them off. I'll likely decline, but unless you are patronizing me or knowingly trying to vex me, I won't get upset. This makes for a more pleasant humanity and a more efficient one as well, in my opinion. It is unfortunate that your cousin would have to experience any negative emotions over something as mundane and harmless as a question. I hope, for this reason, that she is never asked to do such a thing. Quote:
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Also, I'm sorry for this... I'm really not trying to be a prick. I'm a calm guy. If you could here my tone of voice you might be sure that this was all just for the sake of argument, but here goes. I find it a bit odd that you openly admit being one of these horribly annoying people that misunderstand your trade. Doesn't you being confused about protocol and expectations of a visit kind of exonerate people posing questions about these things? Would it have been more offensive for you to ask what you were in store for and clarify or to have gone the length of the visit under the assumption there might be more? Again, I'm not trying to pick a fight. I'm sure you're a stellar person with which I'd agree on many points. Please don't take offense. |
I had several of massages by a physical therapist after a car accident last year. Sex was not on my mind (and was not offered). How to move without excruciating pain was. My happy ending: I was able to walk out of there in considerably less pain, thanks to wonderful folks like RedLemon.
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This one is for *Nikki*
This is my first erotic story ever.. and I wrote it just to get this thread out of a rut. Quote:
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And, just to be slightly back on topic, I watched "Jenna Jameson - The Masseuse". I don't think she's ever received a real massage in her life. She had the worst technique I have ever seen. |
So JTK, just for the sake of my fantasy life, how far can you go with the "Nude Reverse"?
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That was an excellent story and much appreciated :)!!
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Okay, now I decided I'd contribute something to this thread for what it was designed. There is a local publication called the Pitch Weekly here in KC, MO. In the back of it, there are always these classifieds for what we're talking about. So, I'm going to post the links in the order I followed them and will show you what we've all been waiting for. Just one example. So here is the classified page at the Pitch's website. http://www.pitch.com/classifieds/ You get here by clicking "Body Rubs" http://kc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/clas...ategory=491595 Here is an add I clicked on. http://kc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sens...Ad?oid=1035703 Pretty cool. Rates and services listed. Nice! http://mistymassage.com/ Here's the best part. Click "Etiquette" and you'll find she clearly states lets not talk about it; buy you'll get what you might expect. Ha. ... and she's cute too. I'll let you know how it turns out. ;) |
The last massage I had was a brutal drubbing given by a man with the mitts of a grappler. It was probably the least sexual thing ever, but man did it relieve the stress.
The DC/Balto area is awash in parlours. According to Gene Weingarten, Asian women will kind of shower you and encourage you to disrobe. http://tiny.cc/WYoO8 I'd visit a therapist every week if I could afford. I'd also get a massage. I'd like to say, thanks to wonderful folks like Redlemon, I would like a Meyer Lemon. |
I've gotten a massage a couple of times now, but nothing ever happened. I can see it being considered "not sexual" in the sense that it's just massaging another muscle of the body, but I doubt many guys could actually think of it that way.
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Poppinjay : brutal drubbing...mind if I borrow that? It's got a nice ring to it. :p
Just to back up redlemon in his experience, I knew a male massage therapist who was asked to 'finish me off' by male clients very regularly. At first he used to laugh it off, but he became very disenchanted with it over time. I think there's a disconnect here between reality and fantasy. The concept of being 'finished off' is all sexy and fun and stuff, yes, but it's largely a fantasy and doesn't have a place in the daily working life of professional massage therapists. I'm skeptical that many people would be able to laugh it off for long and it has nothing to do with prudery, it's about personal space and respect. |
Waiting for Herk to post his experience......
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Sorry bud. |
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