Sex with animals...?
 

I'm just curious... did anyone ever have sex with an animal? and like wouldn't you get a disease if you didn't use condoms or something?

...are you serious????



And to answer your question, yes...I regularly do have sex with an animal.
She's a female, and I used to use a condom.
In case you were wondering what species she is, it's the same as mine. Human.:)

Short answer.....Eeeeewwwwww! :cringe:

FWIW, I've found human females to be quite adequate in that department thank you very much.

does it count if you wake up sometimes with your cat under the covers pitty pattying your leg or back?

What if the animal has sex with you?

That is to say, I used to have a dog that...from time to time, would try to hump my leg quite vigorously.

Who am I kidding? He used to hump everything.....whore.

Well...
I think the question should be; do you think that it counts if you wake up sometimes with your cat under the covers pitty pattying your leg or back? :D

My buddy's dog likes to hump my leg. Does that count? I'm sure that it does to the dog. ;)

I once saw a video in which a woman was fucked by a horse. Does that count?

Did the horse wear a condom?

lyric check:

Trent Reznor says fuck you <i>LIKE</i> an animal.. not fuck <i>an</i> animal.

whatwhatwhat? what?

Our eyes met and there was magic!
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If it's wrong I don't want to be right.

Quick answer: No, and I'd seriously worry about anyone who did.

Bestiality would probably be a combination of conduct/anti-social personality disorder, paraphilic coercive disorder, and an augmented version of gender confusion that I guess you could call species confusion, though it's not something you'd find in the DSM 4. Someone afflicted with this would need immediate treatment by a well trained professional.

Let me be clear: in my understanding of biology and psychology, bestiality is not something like homosexuality or bisexuality. It is more similar to pedophilia, and it is strictly illegal and for good reason. If you know of anyone who is involved in animal sexuality, it would be best to contact the authorities immediately.

Meh, we use the animals as slaves, for sports, eat them, experiment on them, etc. If some people get off to having sex with them, so what? It's their junk thats gonna fall off.

Back on topic though: I've had sex with some pretty ugly ladies, does that count? :orly:

People use kids for cheap labor, soccer, beat them, etc. If some people get off having sex with them, so what?

....just a little perspective.

from a stand-up comic i heard a while back:
"did you know you can have allergies to latex? like latex condoms? for over a year, I thought I was allergic to my cat."

to answer your question: No, never did, never will, never met anyone who did, and if you do, you've got serious problems. There are laws against this shit!

The difference being that doing those things to kids is illegal (And wrong, of course... except sports and the sometimes needed spanking). Doing it to animals is tradition, technology, necessity, acceptable. Why should sex be any different than the other tortures we happily put them through?

Its all very arguable but, like you, I'm just trying to give you guys a little perspective on the issue since you all kinda jumped on the guy. Its not all clear cut, black&white as everyone makes it out to be. I'm trying to keep an open mind here.

PS: Are mermaids technically considered animals? Cause I'd have sex with a cute one if they were real :rolleyes:

CptAJ,

How do you feel about having sex with comatose or mentally retarded people, as far as that goes. I am concerned about it from an animal rights perspective, but as you point out; put in a certain perspective that's shaky. I'm quite concerned about it from the perspective of the person doing the fucking, given the various other psychological associations we typically have with sex. To a certain extent, sort of like using fire to heat your house, versus good old pyromania. Or maybe closer to the point, straight-up killing a cat with a stick animal abuse.

As far as mermaids, I've never actually seen one depicted with a vagina, so I guess its blowjobs.

Come on now, we both know people are different. Comatose/retarded people are way past the line and we all know it... we don't know where the line is but we know sexually abusing any kind of human is past it. I'm talking about animals here.

Now, it certainly seems like an animal's rights violation but its very shaky ground. Sexual abuse in humans is considered harmful because of the mental consequences of it, otherwise- and not taking into account lesions in the act- its just sex. From that point, its almost certain that animals wont suffer from those very specific, harmful effects. Maybe they even enjoy it? I bet them horses do.

Anyway, perhaps if the animal were big enough not to be harmed by the physical act itself? (Fucking a squirrel would definitely be an animal rights violation) We could go on and on, but in the end its not so universally wrong as it seems. Its just our current cultural beliefs arbitrarily frown upon it. In the days of my grandfather it was not uncommon at all for young men to have sex with female donkeys (Oh god the stories...:no:). There were no laws against it and aside from being an embarrassing situation for city folk, no one was ever punished for it.

Dude, I *love* blowjobs! :crazy:

Which guideline?

Cpt: i'm not going to spend copious amounts of time arguing the ins and outs of horse fuckery, so i'll try to make my points succinct:

you didn't respond to the aspect of the psychology of the modern day horse fucker. i should put in the caveat that i'm talking about your average horse fucker in 1st world industrialized nations. i can't really pontificate about the relationship of a ubangi or a starving eastern european farmer to his animals. so with this in mind:

the reason i brought up the mentally retarted and the comatose is exactly the line you're mentioning. i think it involves the lack of ability to give consent. just like your average horse. or, perhaps a person who isn't seriously mentally retarded can seem to give consent, but what does that mean? i would posit that might be similar to your trusty mare, who seems to luring you in with her big round eyes and that playful flick of the tail.

now eating animals is something i think is a valid point, but i'd have to say that food is different than sexual desire. saying you've got to eat a cow is one thing; maybe not strictly true, but pretty difficult to avoid for a lot of people to obtain the desired result: life. saying you have to fuck one to obtain the desired result: orgasm...well, i think that's sort of a stretch.

and i'd have to say i don't like the idea of people thinking its ok to fuck things that can't give consents outside of fanfic. i think it sets a dangerous precedent for transferal to other situations. weaker people, for example.

maybe i'm just prejudiced. maybe i'm an anti-horse-fuckerer. but i guess i feel pretty comfortable about that.

But do animals give consent when they have regular sex with each other? Or is it more of an instinctual, automatic kinda thing? Does that invalidate the "consent as a requirement" paradigm? Oh well, I don't know. Who the hell knows...

Its a very vague subject if you ask me but at any rate, society has made its choice. Fucking animals is "bad". I'm just saying though, as far as I'm concerned, if the guy wants to fuck a donkey or whatever I'm not gonna be the one to stop him.

As far as the psychology of the modern-day horse-fucker, and having taken my fair share of psych classes as a former psych major, I don't think there is enough objective research on the matter to say either way. Could be just as harmless to society as jerking off, who knows? Like I said, society has made its choice and it certainly looks definite.

Heres a good one though:
Is it ok to have recreational sex with humanoid robots? (given that you had the technology to make them)
...
If so, then is it ok to have sex with genetically engineered human look-alike beings without complete human brains? (Having the same mental capacity as the previously mentioned robots and given the proper technology of course)

Morality is a very relative thing...

Well, you see, human society often considers itself to be of a higher conscious level than the other living organisms. Most of us have a set of morals, such as not killing other human beings without a valid reason (and let's not go into what is justified, and what's not). Another one of these consent before intercourse. Being the alleged "more advanced" species, we shouldn't go by their sets of morals, but our own.
As for the subject of eating animals, the "need"(or rather, desire) to have sex is secondary, and the need to eat is the primordial need.

Jerking off involves only one person. Sex involves two people (or creatures). Therefore I would say sex affects more than yourself, and therefore society can have a say on what's acceptable when it comes to sex.

just my 2 cents.

OMG I can't stop laughing at this post!

Very good point. I don't particularly agree that we need to invariably apply our own moral standards when dealing with other creatures. It should be on a case by case basis, objectively taking into account the consequences, if any. But really, thats just me, you probably made the strongest point in the thread with that paragraph.

Well, if the person owns the animal then it is part of his private patrimony and as such does not involve society or anything. Its not like the donkey is going to abuse his children in return or cost the state thousands in therapy fees or whatever. The effect ends with the animal. (This is all given that the animal is physically capable of taking part in the act without being uncommonly damaged)

Be careful CptAJ
http://www.atherstonecc.co.uk/jpgs/giantrabbit.jpg
that bunny broke my primordial heart.

I'm not sure if you're really espousing the idea of inter-species intercourse or just looking for an argument....
The actual act of bestiality is not, in itself, illegal but for a few states; it comes under animal abuse and can be prosecuted as such.
Your basic animal (dog, cat, rabbit), has about as much conscious thought as your average 4 month old human baby. In other words-none. Choice is not something they can make. Once you make the decision to pursue intercourse with someone or something that can not make that same decision, you have become a sexual predator or sexual deviant and a likely criminal. And, if you can't find a human adult contact to share that choice, you're also pretty pathetic('you' being collective and not necessarily pointed at the OP).
To the question of human/android intercourse, it would be assumed that this android is programmed to receive/serve the duties ascribed and in fact, is quite close to being so with Real Dolls-manufactured to look and feel human for the sole purpose of sex.

Ooooh...Oooooh!!

Do "cougars" count? ;)

I guess I kinda am arguing for the sake of argument. I do think its an interesting discussion though. I'm well into law school right now and I used to be a psych major so you can probably see why such interest would arise. Its fascinating because I think there really aren't that many clear-cut reasons for it to be illegal.

For instance, you would use an animal for sports, in which it is put through grueling physical challenges and reiterated painful punishment for the sake of mere amusement of the masses... but you draw the line when it comes to genitals? Is sports entertainment more of a primordial need than sex? Fucking a horse would certainly be less of a torture than making the poor thing burst its heart out running in circles while being constantly whipped to go faster. Remember that they don't have the mental conditions to be psychologically damaged by sex like we are.

Its a completely arbitrary line to abide by, but people still make it out to be just and reasonable.

As for the robot thing, I'm going to leave that for another thread as we'd take this one way off topic with it.

But... they don't have legs... where would you put it? lol

Careful, mixedmedia is a cougar - just barely so it's a technicality really.

Two words: Donkey Show

There are many who think animal-based sports are abusive to the animal; rodeos have been shown to be, dog races are in some cases and cockfights are illegal. However, it is a horse's inclination to run(and, perhaps a greyhound's)-it is not its inclination to have sex with a human.
I find boxing and those 'ultimate' sports abhorant, pigraces and rodeos almost as much so due to their unnatural means. And, like those that find bestiality acceptable, people find those types of entertainment acceptable as well.
And who is to say the animal isn't psychologically harmed? Inability to say 'I'm fucked up now', doesn't mean they aren't.

Well...I know that that was certainly the case with my first wife. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/10.../whistling.gif

Funny you should mention this, piggy, because just this week I was watching a programme on BBC TV in which they showed a picture from an illustrated edition of Oscar Wilde's children's stories - there was a mermaid in one of these that had a clearly illustrated pubic bush and the scales and tail began halfway down the thighs.

So I guess some mermaids do have vaginas.

Question: does a mermaid with bad personal hygeine have a vagina that smells of people? :rolleyes:

Of course, some people do frown upon them but general society does not, which is exemplified by the fact that they're legal. As such, and following the coherence and analogy principles of the law, sexual relations with animals shouldn't be outlawed considering it subjects the animal to less torture than other activities. But well, the system is not perfect. Alcohol has also been scientifically proven to be more harmful than cannabis and we all know the legalities of that.

By the way, its not the horse's inclination to carry a midget around at high speeds. The fact that you have to beat them into submission should be enough to clarify that.

Furthermore, it has been scientifically proven that some animals simply are not self aware at a cognitive level analogous to our own. Be that as it may, and given the unlikely chance that they could indeed be "fucked up" by the experience, there's still no rational argument or research that indicates either way. The legislation is still arbitrary and unfounded, regardless of who's right here.

Mermaids

Wait a second, who ever said they didn't have vaginas? Fish have vaginas, mammals have vaginas. No matter how you slice it, there's gotta be a pussy somewhere in there.

CptAJ - maybe Venezualan society doesn't frown on animal fights, but American society does. To the best of my knowledge, all 50 states ban the practice. There are illegal fights here and there, but I don't think that "general" American society finds it acceptable at all. I think that the distinction is important.

Bestiality, however, is not necessarily illegal everywhere in the US, but I believe that it is in the majority of states. The alcohol/cannabis comparison is a strawman since we're talking about third party injuries here, with the third party being an animal. A better analogy is the one already drawn with adults who can't consent because they aren't concious or lack the mental capcity to do so.

I was a "Bulldog" in high school... did that one girl commit bestiality with me?

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2006/20060928.jpg

Bestiality is like all very extreme fetishes, in my mind. There is definitely something unnatural (and I would say 'wrong') with people who are into bestiality, just like I think there is something wrong with people who are into pedophilia, amputation, nullification, etc etc.

However, I don't think anyone chooses their kinks, so I'm hesitant to judge them too harshly...our sexuality, more than anything else, is a product of our environment/genetics/upbringing/experiences etc, and we have very little control over what kinks turn our crank.

Rebecca Loos (who became famous by virtue of her affair with David Beckham) was shown on a reality television show jacking off a pig. Where does this lie on the morality scale?

Seems to me the 'pig' label was in question.....doesn't say much for her interest in Beckman either.
Personally, on the morality scale, it's in negative digits...

Is it wrong that I think this bunny is soooo cute? :paranoid:

So I'm curious... the fact that we were curious enough about the contents of this thread based on the title to click on it... what were you thinking you would find here?:orly:

I had hoped someone would admit to having sex with an animal, if only for amusement purposes.

I was referring to animal-dependent sports in general, not fighting in particular. I'm sorry, I should have made that more clear. And yes, its illegal here too, although barely enforced like many things. I already mentioned the matter of lesions to the animal in the previous posts. The sexual act would not generate these lesions as long as the animal is big enough, so the animal fights comparison is not exactly fair. But even still, horse racing submits the animal to more lesions and pain than any sexual act would.

The alcohol/cannabis comparison was directed at the unfounded legality of both matters (even though bestiality is not legislated against in some places), which is at this point the only thing I'm arguing here I guess. I think you misunderstood what I was trying to convey... And I already explained that the line is drawn way before we ever reach natural humans, no matter how defective they are. So mentally challenged folk would be considered human, and rightly so.

Sorry for the misunderstandings, I'll try to explain myself better in the future.

PS: I too had expected to hear amusing tales of inter-species sex. I thought "damn, this place is way more open minded than I thought".

Well, some guys I've dated could be considered another species..just not sure of their classifications...
I have been called 'piranha', 'daddy long-legs' and a dog....so guess either way someone was having interspecies relations here...

i think there is a good story behind the first 2... would you be so kind as to share?:)

Not good stories, I was teased. "Piranha" for my very crooked teeth; "Daddy Long-legs" for my out-of-synch long legs. I think the real animals were those insensitive apes....

now I'm curious about your out of sync legs...:)

http://62.233.33.215/0/02/11/62/news...ds-posters.jpg

Those ads are creepy.

5'6" at the time with 3ft legs(can we say 'gangly'?)....I grew a bit after high school:thumbsup:
Damn, talk about a threadjack!! :D *makes a sharp left to be back on the road*

Dogs humping legs is something people see as merely 'sex', but it's not sex to a dog, it's either an attempt to control the person they're humping(specially when they attach to a visitor-it's a 'I'm the boss here, buster' action) or it's done out of frustration. A friend had a female Pekinese that would hump a pillow whenever there was company in her house. First she'd tear at it, swinging it around, then she'd mount it.
CaptJ-in horseracing, those 'whips' aren't strong enough to do physical damage to a horse's hide. In rodeo's however, in order to get a horse to buck, its genitals are tied tightly with a leather strap. That was not always the case-'unbroken' horses used to be used, but could only be ridden for so long before they'd just get used to it and stop bucking. Horses have been 'domesticated' for hundreds of years, bred for their particular usage; racehorses are no exception to that and any legitimate stable would be stupid to be abusive toward its animals and those that have, whether through physical means or chemical have been prosecuted and tossed out of the industry. New Jersey(where I live) is a huge horseracing/breeding state and I can attest to the mostly exemplary 'lifestyle' those animals live.

Love the ads.

I've dated some pretty wild women, married one of them; but I draw the line at the same species.

We're all animals.

Sorry but this is nothing but PETA propaganda. The flank cinch (or bucking cinch) is not tied around a horse's genitals. Horse's genitals are pulled inside their body when they aren't being "used". All bucking horses are mares or geldings, and there's no possible way that the cinch could do any damage to the horse's genitals. Bucking horses are trained to buck when they have the cinch on.

I think bestiality is illegal more because it's weird or gross than because it is cruel to animals, at least most animals. Obviously some animals could be injured by someone penetrating them, but "jerking off a pig" is something veterinarians do every day for the purpose of artificial insemination and they also apply the result to the female hogs. Pregnancy testing in cattle is done by sticking your arm 2 feet up a cow's rectum and either feeling around with your hand or using an ultrasound probe, and the cows don't get particularly upset about that, so I doubt they would care much about someone having sex with them.

Not trying to advocate bestiality at ALL here, but I also wouldn't particularly consider it animal abuse as long as the animal isn't being hurt, at least in the case of the average farm animal.

Bestiality!! hmmm
Get a signed consent from that animal.

koko wasn't signing kitten.

This is why I missed TFP so much when I was gone...

Do you think that sex with other species moves evolution forward or creates new viri (virises)? It takes a horse and a donkey to make a mule. Now what would happen if all the horses and donkeys died, but the mules were able to adapt and survive (and reproduce)? How would we figure out that two animals of similar, but different species created a third?

Or you get AIDS which is similar to SIV in monkeys. What other diseases are there that are dormat in different species, but harmful to our own?

It does seem a little out there, but there does seem to some of it on-line. I remember going to a frat house in college and they were watching that horse video, and it is burned into my mind. And no, it wasn't wearing a condom. Eww. ;)

I used to believe that the donkey show was just a joke, but after what I saw last Friday night, I'm not sure what to believe anymore.

I'm furry. Does that count?

Is a letter of consent with an inky paw-print at the end suitable? :lol:

Does anybody know a good therapist?

You guys might wanna watch Clerks II.

"How many of you feel like animals tonight?"

Sure only if you can read it.

I'm an animal Black Kitty Kat! :)

Well done, M'am, Well done! "Cougars" are indeed the most exquisite...and desirable...of the species.

May I compliment you on your wonderful sense of humor?

Well, who doesn't enjoy the hunting of cougars, and the frenzy that would inevitably ensue afterwards.

It almost makes me want to give up on my affection for foxes, chicks, and...Oh, yes... pussies. :D

As an interesting side-note... odd semi-philosophical argument in favor of bestiality someone came up with once.... (and I say this as a point of interest, and something to think about, not suggesting anyone take this as reason to go find the nearest sheep. I, like most posters above, find the idea at worst disgusting and at best, a joke I feel guilty about laughing about, but laugh anyway)

Most people are generally ok with the idea of masturbation... which is basically simulated sex, no? Can't get what we want, so we fake it.
And as if hands, soft, warm flesh of our own within arm's reach, weren't good enough... there are toys.
Some of them in shapes that help the simulation, some soft and fleshy, some vibrate, some are even molds of real people. All to make a better simulation.

That said, isn't bestiality just better masturbation? After all, what's a better simulation than a fake, soft, fleshy latex organ, but a soft, fleshy, flesh organ? It's taking the simulation as far as it can go, as close as it can get to the real thing without.... quite.... getting there.

The guy went from there to apply the same argument to homosexuality, being gay himself. Don't know why.... but... yeah.

Well, he's not the type of philosopher I'd base my lifestyle on....

not even a chuckle out of you guys?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koko_%2...#Koko.27s_cats

turns out koko wanted pussy, not a kitten.

Yeah, you had me up to the bestiality point. Let's remember that animals are alive. What you do with your hand is one thing. What you do with another living breathing thing against its will is something else.

I can't follow simple instructions.

I'm a cougar? What the.....

*leaps on mixedmedia like a sex-crazed beastiophile

I could be wrong (not sure what the age bracket is for cougars), but you don't look old enough to be a cougar. Hot and sexy, yes, cougar, not sure.

This thread NEEDS this video. http://emuse.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/17687

Oh yeah, that Bill O'Rights is a hot one. Keep hitting on him. :D

Okay, I had to go and look up the slang usage of the word "cougar."

Of which, I most certainly am not. Thank you.

In fact, I prefer older men. So there. Jazz. :p

even dogs need lovin:

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/h...ogs-253334.php

ya know... I think the one thing a thread about sex with animals DOES NOT NEED is a video... :lol: :hmm:

this breaks my heart.:sad:

There are countries in the world in which it is not illegal. Saudi for instance and maybe New Zealand (sorry, Australian joke there:) ) Perhaps the reason for not doing it lies not just in animal rights, as there are very few countries in the world which acknowledge these, but also in the fallout for the community if it became a commonly accepted thing.

Nah... I've never found any that were my type.

while beastiality isn't socially acceptable, it's hard to find a really good convincing argument on why it's wrong.

I just took a class on social psych and this issue came up, the professor's argument was that a lot of things that we find morally unacceptable rarely have good logical reasons as to why they're unnacceptable.

You could argue that having sex with an animal is wrong because there's no consent, however, we don't give consent when we kill animals for food and I'm sure an animal would rather have sex than die.

If you say that we kill because we need to eat, that's not true because there are numerous vegitarians out there that don't eat meat to survive and therefore, killing animals is no longer a basic need.

It has also been shown that some animals seem to enjoy having sex with humans, or at least they don't seem to mind, therefore is it really wrong?

There's no good logical foundation on why it's wrong...the same could be said about incest, sure, it may produce bad offspring, but what if both partners had their tubes tied? and pregancy had 0% chance of occuring? Well, that's another topic I won't get into here, but it does make you think.

I'm just playing devils advocate here for the sake of discussion, i personally would never have sex with an animal, i just think it's gross.

No convincing argument why it is wrong? None?
Here is one:
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well, since the animal might not be truly willing and can't tell you if it's not, technically it's not consentual, and therefore it would be rape.

read my entire post, i addressed that argument, we don't have consent when we kill animals, why have consent for sex?

Do you think animals sit around debating whether sex with humans is wrong? :D

Leaving aside the morality of killing animals, the killing argument is irrelevant to the question of whether sex with an animal is rape or not.

Rape is sex without consent, so if an animal is unable to give consent, then sex with it is technically rape.

It's an animal it doesnt have the right to consent. If it did, owning a work horse or racing a greyhound would be considered slavery. Since it's called adopting an animal, maybe it should be called child abuse. That being said, I think there should be some concern about the person that does participate in this kind of activity.

I think that's animal abuse. But I do recall hearing something about AIDS being traced back to a human/animal (I think it was some sort of monkey or something they said) sex. So I guess that's the consequence right? You fuck with something you're not supposed to, a new disease is born. I mean now of course AIDS is anyone's disease, but pretty crazy that that is how it originated (assuming what I had heard is correct).

The truth about the origin of AIDS isn't nearly so clear-cut.It's generally believed that HIV is a direct decedent of SIV, Simian Immunodeficiency Virus, but it most likely made the species jump by human consumption of infected animals. The inter-species sex theory of the origin of AIDS is really nothing more than a schoolyard myth.

Oh I never meant for it to sound that what I was saying was concrete fact. I only stated it as something I heard and had only brought it up as sort of just another reason why human/animal sex would be wrong. Thank you for posting something more correct, I just wanted to clarify that I had never meant for what I said to be taken as fact or that I thought it was indeed fact. Thanks!

I've heard similar logic used to say 2 men should not be together.