flaps?
 

there seems to be a lot of interest in labia flaps on this forum. what is the.....cause.......um...... please let me know--just out of curiosity, just want to be educated, not creepy

I was wondering about that one myself. Personally, I don't find them attractive at all. I like it clean and "streamlined".

No idea but some girls that have them are very uncomfortable with it even though they shouldnt be. Personaly i dont care one way or the other. but... im more into nice legs and eyes then anything.

its just like any other part of the body, they are dictated by your genes.

i loves them so very very much:hearts:

I was born with them, they are there and I have no problem with them. Neither does Pan. :)

Thank you everyone that has posted, you have answered my question well. Another curious question down--millions more to go!

I love the look of the prominent labia minora.

LOVE the look.

Total turn on for me. When I hear women bemoaning their naturally sexy labias I always tell them not to worrry.

To me, it's all good.

Women have enough issues with their bodies. Do we really need to scrutinize yet another aspect?

Just be happy that you are getting some and don't worry about the aesthetics of her vagina.

quoted for truth

I've never met a vagina i did not like, they are all different in the own special way, each one unique and beautiful.:hearts:

I still haven't figured out why, but the truth is most women are very concerned with how their vagina is perceived by their partner. To me, they are all beautiful. I guess it's hard to be confident about something that's so intimate.

Not that I can speak for women, but having anyone say that your vagina is ugly cannot be a good feeling. Of all the features of a body that would probably be the worst to insult not only because it's an intimate part of your body, but the person who has the opportunity to comment is likely not someone who's opinion isn't going to matter to you. I don't know about you, but I probably wouldn't take it very well if my partner said she was grossed out by the sight of my penis.

I personally enjoy more pronounced labia minora because it gives you more to pay attention to when you're....mouthing around. :D In that sense I find them very attractive. As far as something to look at is concerned, I tend to pay more attention to a woman's face than anything especially when we're getting down.

What's not to like about them?? I love the look, the feel. It's just more to love.

Thank you!

You know, there are women who actually have plastic surgury to "correct this problem".

That's always a nice feeling.

For real?
Some women actually do that?
That's sad beyond comprehension. I'm thinking, or at least hoping, that there are other esteem issues at work there.

I don't see the "problem". There's certainly nothing to correct. It is what is, and it's all good.

The only way that I can see anyone having a "problem" with it, is if they had never seen a real live one before. I mean, if "normal" to them is what they see on an airbrushed porn site...well...
And if they do have a problem with it, then they deserve to never see another one again.

I think I prefer to see them a little actually. The little slit is a good look but I love to look at some extra skin hanging. Its just what I picture a vagina to look like lol.

As longs as it's a pussy, I'll fuck it.

they're very tastey.

Okay I would just like to say that I like my vagina just fine. Now the girls with the nasty looking warmed up and left out roast beef look is discusting. Thats what all the porn satrs chooches look like and if I had one that looked like that I would get it cut off because that is nasty. Who the hell would want to lick down there with it looking like that all loose and nasty? Ick! Alls I am saying is the loose skanky women need to do something about their warm roastbeef cooch.

first off, it's not because they have lots of sex, its genetic. second, i do.

Well either way thats gross and they should keep it to themselves. Even my man can vouch for it that he thinks they should be neatly tucked away not hanging loose..*shudder* Thats great for you to like them but my opinion is gross.

[thread jack]just remember that making fun of a genetic trait is kinda shallow. like making fun of you because your eye color. [/thread jack]

back to lovely long lushes labia lips

I wasn't making fun, I was making a statement. Or my opinion. Just like you stated yourse.

Bold emphasis mine.

Your word choice is not simply stating an opinion. It is rediculing, degrading, and to top it off passing moral judgement--for a genetically determined physical trait. :rolleyes:

When you talk like that, how do you suppose it makes women with that particular physical characterization feel? Do you think that there is no one on this forum who might be built that way?

I'd advise you reconsider your post.

Bloody rose, are you saying that women have "flaps" because they are "loose, skanky women?" That was what I got from your post, at least. If so, that is a terribly misinformed opinion. The shape of one's labia has nothing to do with one's sexual decisions.

You cannot help what your genitals look like, unless of course you get a piercing or give birth. Both of which have nothing to do with labia or having sex.

Have some respect for your half of the species, wouldja? Thanks.

Never really paid attention to "flaps" when looking at pictures or watching porn. To me a vagina is a vagina. I have "flaps" *shrugs I'm happy with mine. I find it odd that anyone would judge a woman by her labia.

As previously stated, I love "the roast beef" (your words) look, far more than the little slit look.

There's nothing disgusting about the female vulva (unless unclean, that's a different story.) I find these sort of comments surprising coming from a female.

If you are into the lippy look (as I am) then I suggest this site (full nudity warning)

www.sexylabia.com

So, help me out here:

A) Do women become slutty because of the way their lips originally look? Ostracized from society because of their long lips, they turn to a life of sluttyness because of societal limitations on their vertical mobility?

or

B) Do the lips of slutty women gradually become longer, a la Pinocchio? How does that happen? Increased friction? But then even monogamous women who have lots of sex should get long lips... Maybe coming in contact with different penises stimulates lip growth?

or

C) You don't really know what you're talking about?

guys, lay off her, she said something stupid and moronic, but lets not turn this into a flame fest.

Labia/vagina's shape or size or color doesn't matter. They are beautiful and I love it the way it is. My delicacy.

Sorry, but was that comment supposed to be somehow "better" than flaming?

it's a fine line, i don't think she is stupid or moronic, what she said was. but yes, what i threw onto the fire was flammable...

sorry folks, my bad.

No problem Dilbert, was just wondering about the whole kettle/black thing. :D

I love you. :)



It's a sad fucking day when a woman's labia become "right" or "wrong."

As for the OP, I've been told that nibbling on "flaps" is very enjoyable and that seeing them and feeling them wrapped around your cock while fucking is a huge turn on. This is what I've been told.

I'm glad I have flaps. :suave:

I have one prounouced side and one not so pronounced... I guess I'm a halfy-flappy... or a happy-flappy.
It's been embarrassing for me in the past, but I've only had one partner and he doesn't seem to care so I've been able to get over that for myself. My whole flipping body is off-kilter a bit from left to right so I've practice at getting used to it. :lol: The plastic surgery thing is actually true, though, I knew a chick who swore she had it done... I didn't ask to see, but her entire persona changed afterwards. She was so much more relaxed. Whatever floats your boat, but for her it was becoming more comfortable in her skin. I just can't imagine being that uncomfortable in the first place about flaps... it's awful.

I'm half-flappy as well; I'd suspect most women aren't 'even'.
I could see surgery if it's physically uncomfortable-like so large it gets pressure from slacks, etc.,; a young girl was on Dr. 90210 to get the reduction done for that reason(painful to go horseback riding, etc).
We're a society so fixated on perfection, we're of the thinking symmetrical=beauty=perfection=desireable. Labia 'fixing', ass bleaching, vaginal tightening....sheesh....
If someone loves you, they truly don't care about that dumb stuff.

Wow, I've never heard of a woman experiencing discomfort from her labia...

And, you know, I don't know if I'm a little lop-sided or not...never bothered to check that closely....

And from what I've seen, in my experience of looking at lots and lots of pictures of naked women, MOST women have pronounced and darkened labia to one extent or another. I'd venture to guess that pink and petite labia are more of a rarity...

I don't click on "new posts" very often. You guys impress me as being a group that it is very easy to share my opinion on this subject with. I like 'em tiny and thin, big and in your face, and I like "tweeners" as well.

Ok, this is the kind of idiocy that makes women self-conscious.

Given:

1. labia size/shape is genetically determined
2. labia come in all shapes and sizes
3. sexual activity has NOTHING to do with the shape/size of labia
4. your opinion is YOUR opinion. Telling others that their vaginae :lol: are "gross" because they don't conform to your ignorantly-formed opinion marks you as an ignorant person and a traitor to women everywhere.

If you can't say something nice, don't say nothin' at all.

I will respect your, or anyone else's aesthetic PREFERENCE any day. But "I prefer clamshell pussy" is a completely different statement than "anything that does not conform to my aesthetic judgment is gross and disgusting."

Grow up, grow a brain, or stfu.

P.S. Nibbling on stretchy lips is fun, and orgasms are that much better for having one more erogenous zone to play with.

...sure ya have, kiddo. Yours just might be even more fun.

Okay, I wasn't going to get into this because it is somewhat of an issue for me but I will.
I am half-flappy too and I dislike it. I have considered the surgery but I have no money and my boyfriend is fond of my "flap" so I never did it. It's not painful for me at all, I can't even feel that one unless it's tugged on but I just don't like how it looks and feels. I'm all for other people's preferences though, I know my boyfriend loves me the way I am so it's not a huge issue. I would be perfectly happy if I was "fully flappy" or not at all it's just the unevenness that bothers me personally.

"flaps" (I like the word lips better) are nice! :cool: The are soft and silky, get engourged and swollen when a woman is aroused, they get wet....a soft, sensitive, silky, moist entrance.....total goodness!
They feel lots of sensation too......just a skinny naked slit seems rather boring, and underage. Viva the Vulva! :hyper: :p

The ignorance of the opinion expressed is really driven home by the ignorant quality of the way it's expressed.

Grow up.

That is all. :)

before this thread, i had no idea there was a difference. a pussy is a pussy... if it's clean, then i'm happy.

Exactly.




Although I have seen maybe three in my day that I didn't really understand what was going on.

See, this here is what gets me...

Somehow, some group of people have perpetrated the rather arbitrary myth that inner labia are "supposed" to look a certain way. (That this new standard lines up with how a pre-pubescent girl's vagina looks is more than a little creepy and insidious, IMHO.) This myth has caught on so much that women are insecure enough (about a piece of anatomy that few people ever see, btw) to get SURGERY! Go under the knife, full anesthetic and all the risks that entails. We have bought into this myth so entirely that we are willing to CUT OURSELVES IN A VERY DELICATE PLACE to achieve some standard that until recently didn't exist, and has no basis in anything other than a rather arbitrary aesthetic preference. It's becoming a codified standard and, IMHO, dangerous to women's health and self-esteem. Don't buy into it! And certainly don't spend your money paying to go under the knife to "fix" something that's not wrong.

Pussy comes in all shapes and sizes. http://1001vaginas.com/ See? There's really no such thing as "normal."

Breaking news from the world of pussy: Rumor is that Jenna Jameson, probably the worlds best-known porn star, is holed up and not speaking to anyone after getting a vaginoplasty that she's not happy with.

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/r_...ive_to_mu.html (second item)

So... here's a woman whose intimate anatomy has been on general display for the last (according to Google) 14 years. Yet she's still prey to this insane self-consciousness. Enough so that she would get surgery, and then be upset enough with the results to be skipping meetings, photo shoots, and public appearances.

Of course, Jenna's just this side of Michael Jackson these days. She was so much better looking before she first went under the knife. I guess it doesn't surprise me too much she'd get adjusted below the equator. Still, it's sad.

I have enough first-hand (*koff*) experience with vaginas to know that they're all different, and they're all beautiful.

You’ve got to remember that her pussy is her livelihood, just like actors and actresses rely on there looks and get plastic surgery to help them. she is changing to meet the demands of the market place, it saddens me, but i do understand it.

i did not see any sideways pussies in here :sad:

Agreed. I can see debating bald vs trimmed vs natural, but this? Come on.

To quote someone much funnier than me:

From here:

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=2798

Sorry, it had to be done.

there is nothing wrong with debating personal preference, the issue here is the disregard for respect.

i love lovely long lushes labia lips.

yep, sign me up too....

*Snickers*

Where's photoshop when you need it?

I said "all shapes and sizes", not all orientations ;)

I don't think it's a big issue for most people, at least most people I've been with haven't even noticed it but for some people it is a big deal and it does effect their self esteem. (Not that it effects mine but I know it does for some people).

Another interesting site for the curious: http://www.bettydodson.com/subsex41genart.htm
'nuff said ;)

Lurkette! I'm shocked at you! You don't support lesbian cooters or bisexual cooters? :oogle:

:lol:

Oh god! Betty Dodson.....That brings back memories of youth! :lol: I remember sending away for a pamphlet of hers when I was 18 or something....saw it in the back of Viva! magazine. All these different styles of vaginas she had drawn.
I got it, looked at it, and then thought...."Why'd the hell I send away for this?!" :p :lol: (then I figured maybe it was a lesbian thing.....? )Yeah, everybody is a little different, what a surprise. :rolleyes: :D

Different styles of penises would have been more interesting....plaster casters anyone?.....:o

In praise of large labia: http://www.sexylabia.com/table_of_contents.htm

I realize you're entitled to your opinion but it is quite rude to state that you like it "clean and streamlined" as some women like myself have insecurities in that area and then seeing statements like that does not help in the least.

And another thing


Let me tell you, if I were to ever meet you I'd punch you in the face until my wrist and hands were bleeding. Your childish words are from a person who does not need to reproduce and spread your stupidity around the world. You're the kind of person that has made ME feel insecure and not good enough for what society supposedly expects. Only this year have I finally started to feel "alright" about my intimate anatomy and then I read comments like that and it pisses me off to no end. You don't know what it's like to be criticized by someone involving the most intimate parts of your body and the humiliation associated with it. So how about you feel humiliated for your post and lack of a fully functioning brain.

Rant over.

I find it interesting that in our culture, the way we mock the "incorrect" size/shape of a woman's labia makes a negative statement on how sexually active she is, (or perhaps it's a deeper implication that she enjoys sex too much) while we make fun males in the direct opposite way for the size of a male's penis; ie. he is unable to satisfy a woman.

There has been a recent upsurge in cosmetic surgeries for women in the attempt to look more virginal or pure. Is this a sign that gender roles are becoming more polarized? Or that we as a people are more vain/shallow, selfconcious?

Or is the upswing a result of greater confidence in the medical profession?

When you love someone, you love the parts about them that make them unique, or the parts of them that they only share with you.

IMO, people who focus too intently on one tiny physical characteristic are focusing at such shallow things that they are losing out on enjoyment in life. This includes the whole debate about labia. Guys who would dare try to insult, humiliate, or denegrate a girl who would share that intimate part of them deserve to never see another one again.

I'm not aware that there is any particular size labia are "supposed" to be, any more than there is a particular shape that elbows are "supposed" to be. I suppose we can have aesthetic preferences, but I have yet to meet a vulva I didn't like. I have met people I didn't like, but if an encounter with a person progressed to where I was coming face to face (so to speak) with her vulva, then I certainly liked her well enough, and the appearance of her vulva was never an issue. I have never ever found a vulva unattractive.

I actually grew up with the understanding that the bigger the flaps, the more "roast beef" it looks, the more the girl is a slut.

Sort of like those who grow up with racist upbringings, its hard to change, but change is possible

It has taken me time and I have educated me self on the matter. While I am still not turned on by it like some of you are, I definitely am not disgusted by it.

After all, a pussy is a pussy. And there is nothing conceivably wrong with that no matter what it looks like.

Prominent labia are hot.

Seriously.

I see a lot of people posting from the fence, and I see the odd one posting from the, "nah they suck", side. I just wanted to post from the, "they quite clearly rock", side. I'd say when they're hidden, it's not as hot for me. But tbh, if you're gonna put it right in front of me, I'm not gonna be saying no, whatever the hell it looks like.

Edit: Incedentally, as I see it mentioned earlier, I can't believe JJ had a vaginoplasty. In terms of aesthetics, I always thought her's was close to perfect. It just show's how subjective and personal this whole thing is.

I think the vast majority of people (men and women) like a prominent Labia. This is the reason porn stars typically are like that. It is because the porn industry is actually quite sophisticated in terms of marketing and analysis. The women are like this because they are addressing the preferences of their audience.

To call it warm roastbeef to me seems like someone has labia envy. The look is erotic and the touch is even more so.

Peace out

The bigger the better :)

Wow... I didn't think this was possible. Do you mean that people actually *talked* about how women's labia should look? Are we talking about locker room contexts or family dinner conversations, or what? I am really curious about this.

That said, I am really glad to hear that you've worked on changing your beliefs... that's commendable. :thumbsup:

You go off on a rant like this and have the audacity to call someone else childish for their words? You're physically threatening someone for their opinion, albeit poorly worded and yet you think it's somehow okay? The irony is thick, and for the record I have no problems with these 'flaps' as they're so called.

Not sure why everyone is freaking out - it's like anything else about the human body and people's own personal tastes. Some like big tits, some like little ones; some like blondes, some like brunettes; and some like flaps, and some don't.

To each their own.

I would feel extremely hurt (well, maybe not, but who knows) if someone insulted me based on the appearance of my penis. I feel sorry for anyone who judges another based on something they can't control.
Labia, prominent or not, are cool.:hearts:

Oh really? I have the audacity to call someone childish for words like that?

Well I will also have the "audacity" to call you a moron for calling me childish.
A place like this does not need people like that posting hurtful messages and I will not tolerate it especially from someone like you.
The TFP is an environment for educated thinking and open minds, not for stereotypical jackasses such as yourself. Watch it with who you call childish.

And no I won't revise my statement and I wouldn't change any of the things posted, let the record show my sentiment toward this subject.
If you don't like it, piss off.

Like I said in my previous post, I have no problems with a prominent labia; and I'm surely not going to think she's a skank or whore because of it. I just find it laughable that you'll physically threaten someone over their misguided opinion instead of rather trying to inform them that having a prominent labia doesn't mean she's a skank as she put it.

Also, I'm far from a stereotypical jackass, thanks.

Everyone take a step back and cool off.

There is no need to throw insults back at someone who is being insulting. Address the post, not the poster.

If you don't want to deal with it... report the post to a mod and we will deal with it.

I'm a bit confused about why people are getting in a tizzy about some people having a preference one way or another...

I have an average sized penis. My wife is happy with it. If she was not, I'd have a different wife. *shrug* As long as YOU are happy with your sex organs, and your partner is happy with your sex organs, why do you care what others think? Some guys like big boobs, some like small. Some girls like 10" schlongs *shudder*, some girls don't. Why are so many people up in arms?

ghoast girl, don't let it get to you.

The woman who made the initial remarks was way off base and unfortunately, it touched a nerve with you. Just take it for what it is - a silly post on an internet site by a person sitting behind a keyboard.

Keep in mind GG, there are guys like ME who adore, LOVE, and seek out a woman with a prominent inner labia. It's something to be very proud of. Pussy pride! I can't tell you how beautiful I would think your genitalia would be.

Cheers and good sex to you.

In an ideal world, no one would care about what other people think. The reality is that people do: people care about their breasts, their penis, and yes, their vagina. They worry that things are too small, too big, too wrinkly, too whatever. There are many women who worry that their vagina is ugly, or maybe they think that vagina's in general are ugly. This may be due to things they've been told or messages they've simply picked up from society.

Of course everyone is entitled to have a preference. There's nothing wrong with preferring one aesthetic look over another. Still, when expressing that preference, one ought to at least try to keep in mind what they're implying. To use an example from this thread, saying that you prefer vaginas "clean and streamlined" implies that vaginas with larger labia are unclean, whether or not this is something you actually believe. That's about as ridiculous as implying a wrinkly scrotum is unclean. And, as we can now see, when people grow up being told that there is a "proper" way for a vagina to look and that other appearances are "used" or "unclean," you're going to hit a nerve if you're not thoughtful when expressing your opinion.

In short, enjoy whatever the hell you want. But when expressing that opinion, keep in mind what you're actually saying, and that you may be talking to someone who fits the subject.

group hug?

*hugs everyone*

/hug

large labia/clitoris
 

how common are large labia or a large clit? by large clit, i'm talking lindamight large (if you don't know, google "lindamight") and by large labia i mean, long hanging labia.

i'm sure while i may be in a minority, i'm not the ONLY human to be turned on by this. do many other guys like it?

why are women embarrassed by having large lips? i've read lots crap on internet forums where girls are embarrased by thier large labia, they think it's ugly or something. why don't they realize it's attractive and a turn on? at least here in the states, we all want bigger things. bigger cars, houses, dicks, why not female genitalia?

and how would you go about meeting a woman with a large clit? do you ask her up front? do you place an ad in the paper?

it's a weird topic, i know, but these things are a mystery to me....

Yes, big female parts do sound good, but not so big that i would be mistaken for a penis. I'm not going to do that google search now because it doesn't sound SFW.

You place an ad in the paper and let us know how it goes.

Whats a labia???

There was a thread about this a while back.....

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=115456

For the record, I am a LOVER of the prominent large labia.

Extremely exciting and sexy.

They are the large (labia majora) and technically inner (labia minora) lips that cover over the area of the vagina, and the urethra, meeting at the top to form the covering for the clitoris.

The entire area is known as the Vulva.

/its all good.:thumbsup:

I have a weakness for pronounced labia majora (the outer lips).

/well, I do.

oh, now i see the "flaps" thread. i feel stoopid. but since this thread also asks about large clits, then i think it can stand on it's own.

99.9 times out of 100 I crack up when I read your posts... nicely done!

Oh yeah... on the question at hand...

"Womanly yes...but I like them too!" It's all good... ALL GOOD... :)

I dated a woman once who's labia were so long and thick that they were seriously large enough to cover about 65% of my face. And, her vagina was in the top 5 tightest I have ever been with.

In my experience, girls with big, meaty lips tend to have larger clits. As such, they also tend to orgasm easier during intercourse.

Either way, I love big lips, and would never every turn a woman away because of them. Besides, when going down there and kissing, it gives you more to kiss.

Flaps? You make them sound like a bad thing. Labia come in all shapes and sizes and all are considered beautiful.

Our society sometimes thinks it's "gross" and that because you're labia is larger, you therefore are "lose" and have had sex a lot. Which is completely false. It's genetic.

The reason why our society has labeled larger labia as gross is because when nude magazines came out, they placed women with smaller labia in them, because larger labia was considered "too womanly." And, it just became the "normal." So, when we started seeing larger labia, we labeled them as different and "gross."

yeah, but the bigger longer fatter ones are way more beautifuler.....(that's right, beautifuler).