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Nowlookit 07-10-2003 07:31 AM

Excellent- and a tip o' the hat to the Lady for further clues. This reads like a page out of "The Clitoris for Dummies" book. Release date unknown.

Donkeypuncher 07-10-2003 07:44 AM

Great read, pretty on-target.

What I would add, though, is to stress to all the readers out there to whom this is new information that not every woman is the same and a knowledge of anatomy isn't all you need. Pay attention to her, try different things and make mental notes about the reactions you get...

Let her be on top? Good advice unless she doesn't like that position or is too embarrassed to play with herself with someone else present, and that's fairly common. You'll have to do more work on your own and/or work with her to come out of that shell a bit. I've known more than a couple women who had been convinced by previous partners that it was weird to touch themselves during sex. (WHY are so many guys so insecure in bed? oy...) On the other hand, I remember one partner in particular who told me where to lie, how to lie and ordered me not to move - and proceeded to grind away to climax. MAJOR turn-on.

Just... pay attention to her, you know? Her words, her reactions, random noises - they all point you in the right direction. And it's a goooood road to travel. ;)

sportsrule101 07-10-2003 10:07 AM

pictures are cool, whether it be of a naked women, or two naked women. maybe someone could find a few pictures or women pleasing herself with arrows and instructions of how to do it.
or even better a video of how to do it

erion 07-10-2003 11:24 AM

And now, just to stir the pot, how well-received would it have been If I had posted an article on the art of fellatio and claimed that every woman needed to read it?

Not trolling, just wanting to discuss the double-standard that exists about these sorts of things, and this is a pretty open-minded group.

sletrock 07-10-2003 11:33 AM

Great post.

Thanks

rat 07-10-2003 11:54 AM

guaranteed to make her squirm like a fish on a hook (sorry, I know it's a poor analogy). good read, solid info.

astartz 07-12-2003 12:34 PM

It's a good article

iandj777 07-12-2003 08:47 PM

I really want to try this now and I don't have anyone to experiment on...dammit!

Kush 07-13-2003 11:44 AM

Yeah, my girlfriend said i've got her bits down to a t.

Took a few weeks, but it's oh so worth it.

LordEden 07-14-2003 03:17 PM

Good post man, good indept info.

Regziever 07-15-2003 07:07 AM

Verry nice! I like his sense of humor!

sportsrule101 07-15-2003 12:29 PM

unbelievable, i have been looking for such advice/guide for awhile now. Bless the tfp, and bless you, the mac god.

tisonlyi 07-20-2003 08:03 AM

What's wrong with a kiss?

Why do we have to charging headlong for the clitoris?

Rubbing the thighs? kneading the buttocks? nibbling the earlobes?

heh.

sub zero 07-20-2003 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by World's King
Okay... I need picures.

I'm more of a visual learner.

Quote:

Originally posted by Spooo
That will help alot. But it would be better/easier to follow, if there were pictures.
*summons the clitoris commanders* SHA-BLAM!

http://www.the-clitoris.com/jpg/anatomy/clit12.jpg

http://www.the-clitoris.com/jpg/anatomy/clit13.jpg

http://www.the-clitoris.com/jpg/anatomy/clit15.jpg

http://www.the-clitoris.com/jpg/anatomy/clit16.jpg

http://www.the-clitoris.com/jpg/anatomy/clit17.jpg

http://www.the-clitoris.com/jpg/anatomy/clit18.jpg


Quote:

Originally posted by lady
Cynthetiq - yup, very good info...

...and hold my fingers out straight and leave a little distance between each finger, moving the whole hand back and forth with my clit and hood in between my middle and ring fingers (like you're a dj playing with a record)

link-> DJ pussy img -drawn by me :)

troit 07-25-2003 08:18 AM

What do I care? I cum... :eek:

j/k...j/k ;)

Actually knew most of what you explained but its always good to take that "refresher" course. Thanks for posting an imformative article for all members to learn from.

hellasnow 07-25-2003 10:32 AM

nice pics sub zero

telloss 07-25-2003 06:10 PM

Off to try this stuff out now!

Gorgo 07-25-2003 10:47 PM

Alternate with guy on top
 
As an alternate, if the lady doesn't like to be on top, here's another very stimulating position.

The man is on top and face to face like missionary but straddling the lady's legs. It's very stimulating for the clitoris.

Here's the stickfigure pics for those who need a visual :

/||\

pacmannamcap 08-01-2003 10:20 AM

A must read...thanks for the letter.

THE MAC GOD 08-01-2003 10:30 AM

Yeah... knowledge of anatomy and positions is good... BUT, communication with your partner about what really works and what doesn't is what's key.

angela146 08-01-2003 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by erion
And now, just to stir the pot, how well-received would it have been If I had posted an article on the art of fellatio and claimed that every woman needed to read it?

Not trolling, just wanting to discuss the double-standard that exists about these sorts of things, and this is a pretty open-minded group.

I would have read it and not been offended in the least. I've found it very useful to listen to the advice of both men and women on that subject.

Most men don't know exactly what a woman is doing with her tongue and lips when she's giving head. Most women don't know what it feels like to get a BJ. I've gotten good tips from both men and women on how to give good head.

angela146 08-01-2003 11:57 AM

A detailed reply from a woman's perspective:

The article is *very* good for what it says. It gives a lot of good info. I would suggest trying most of what it suggests.

However, there are some very important missing details, the kind of thing that you wouldn't know unless you are female *and* have had the luxury of being with a good lover or two.

The glans of the clitoris (once it is erect and you can get to it) is similar to the glans of a penis in another important way. Most men describe the top face of the glans as being Extremely "surface sensative" and the underside of the glans as being more of a deep inside feeling.

This is because there are two main pleasure-inducing nerves that feed the pubic area (in both men and women). The upper one is a very intense over-sensative nerve and the lower one is a more subtle but "gut-wrenching, I can feel it in my bones" nerve.

I presume that if you gentlemen take some lube and use it to massage the top side of your glans, it will feel very intense but not bring you to orgasm. However, if you cup the underside of the glans and stroke it with the same lube it will build the excitement that makes you orgasm.

In intercourse, a penis get stimulation from both sides. It's kind of a cocktail (pun intended). You guys take that for granted. We don't get that very often.

As the article said, a clitoris is a lot like a penis. If you lick the clitoris (or finger it when it's wet) from underneath and are very careful to not stroke the top face, you may find that it really excites a woman without the "oversensative" problems. As she gets closer to orgasm, you can give the top side some quick flicks to add to the pleasure, but, keep yourself focused on the underside.

Now, let's talk about the shaft. Our shafts are internal (like the article said).

One effective way of stimulating the shaft is from inside the vagina, at the famous G spot. From there you can also reach an organ that is similar to the prostate.

Most men I have talked to, say that stimulating the prostate once they are excited gives a very pleasurable feeling similar to undercupping the glans and/or shaft. Touch the G-spot the same way you would want your prostate massaged (but gentler, ours are smaller).

To make all of this happen at once, you can use your tongue on the under and upper sides of the clitoris and use your index finger inside the vagina along the upper wall to stroke the g-spot.

The other way is through intercourse. Use the head of your penis to stroke the G-spot. Keep it shallow most of the time but take a long full thrust maybe every 6-7 strokes. At the bottom of the long stroke, swivel and grind into her pubic bone to give the upper clitoris some stimulation. Don't be afraid to suggest that she touch herself while you are doing this.

Now for the "hard part" (pun intended). If you come while you are in her, and she hasn't come yet, *don't stop*. Keep right on stroking without a pause. Some men can actually keep it hard and enjoy it *as long as they don't stop for the orgasm*. Keep it going for her and you may bring her off more easily than you think.

Obvious question: Why don't we women tell you all about this stuff?

Simple answer: We can't tell you what we don't know.

Your girlfriend or wife might not know any of this. Her mother probably didn't tell her and she may not have found any of it when she was masturbating as a child. Men can see what they are doing and have a large, mostly external object to work with.

We have to figure it out through experimentation and some of us never do. Do not assume that a woman will be able to guide you through the process of making her feel good. Do not assume that she knows her own body.

She might know a lot, she might know a little. She might need your help.

jiggyjester 08-02-2003 11:47 PM

I'm a woman and I've never had an orgasm with a guy UNLESS it was oral.

ghostF98 08-07-2003 12:40 PM

Have you met my girlfriend Delores yet?

Ralvek 08-07-2003 02:54 PM

or just remember...you've got to lick it before you stick it

one_voyeur 08-07-2003 05:54 PM

great info . . . hope to use it soon. thanks.

08-07-2003 08:30 PM

Ok, yeah - these are really good directions. I've been doing just like that for a while now with my wife, and the reaction is VERY, VERY good. :)

Do it.

Regziever 08-14-2003 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by angela146
Now for the "hard part" (pun intended). If you come while you are in her, and she hasn't come yet, *don't stop*. Keep right on stroking without a pause. Some men can actually keep it hard and enjoy it *as long as they don't stop for the orgasm*. Keep it going for her and you may bring her off more easily than you think.

Just one problem here and I think I speak on behalf many many men in the world.
The reason we automaticly pull out when we have cum inside the woman is because the penis gets oversensitive (hypersensitive or whatever...). Pleasure becomes so intense it becomes painfull. We can't "keep going" because it is so godamn painfull in one of our two most "holy" bodyparts that we just can't stand it.
This oversensitivness lasts for a couple of minutes so plz laidies let the brave soldier have a minute or two of rest before you order him back into combat.

I know there are men that doesn't get this oversensitivness (my english is just fabulous today don't you think?? :D) and I envy them wholehartedly.

I'm guessing the oversensitivness is a reflex created to give the semen a head start before the penis is reinserted and thereby increasing the chance of fertilization..

jimk 08-14-2003 02:06 PM

great info.......wish i would've had it out in the field, but i'm sure the wife will greatly appreciate it as well!

motdakasha 08-14-2003 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Regziever
This oversensitivness lasts for a couple of minutes so plz laidies let the brave soldier have a minute or two of rest before you order him back into combat.
blah blah blah
Use your hands and mouth then, genius :P You do have a hand and a mouth, don't you?
If a guy comes before me and rolls over for a few minutes, by the time he recovered I've cooled off. Cooling off without orgasm is no fun.


As for the clockwise/counterclockwise thing, I've only had the obnoxious kind of stimulation. I do know, though that my sweet spot is at 1:00, heh. :)

Bamrak 08-14-2003 02:47 PM

I do believe this ought to be a must read for the male species..very good and very informative, very nice!

Regziever 08-15-2003 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by motdakasha
blah blah blah
Use your hands and mouth then, genius :P You do have a hand and a mouth, don't you?
If a guy comes before me and rolls over for a few minutes, by the time he recovered I've cooled off. Cooling off without orgasm is no fun.

Lol.. Okay, it seems like you missed the point I was making entierly.
This was not meant to the men, it was meant to the women here who obviously knows nothing about the functions of male anatomy.
It wasn't meant as an excuse for the men to roll over and go to sleep.
Just because a guy has come doesn't mean he's done having sex (as verry many women I have rolled around in bed with seems to think).
Obviously (as a man) you use what you can during the time the oversensitivness lasts but as a pointer to the women, don't touch the bald warrior untill the oversensitivness has gone away (and don't expect him to hump on when he's just cum). It is verry painfull and uncofortable m'kay??
(is that simple enough for ya??? ;) )

motdakasha 08-15-2003 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Regziever
Lol.. Okay, it seems like you missed the point I was making entierly.
My point was that most men I've experienced and talk with use this "recovery time" to not do anything. So I was adding to what you said, not contradicting.

Regziever 08-15-2003 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by motdakasha
My point was that most men I've experienced and talk with use this "recovery time" to not do anything. So I was adding to what you said, not contradicting.
Ok, I see and I hear you.. I don't know how common it is what you describe since I have never had sex with a man but I can imagine it to be verry frustrating. You got a point there.

mjollnir 08-15-2003 01:08 PM

great info...

jadedgrin 08-15-2003 10:02 PM

funny im pretty sure i have done this without realizing it exactly, well i have noticed, just that i didnt read a manual about it

Phatmonkyz 08-15-2003 10:02 PM

that could come in handy

Gooddoggy62 08-16-2003 11:25 AM

How can you tell when your girlfriend is having an orgasm?
Who cares!

quantumburnz 09-04-2003 10:43 PM

Well written article. Longest I've ever seen on the subject, but thx!

jbrooks544 09-05-2003 08:46 AM

I couldn't bring myself to read past the first paragraph because it was so full of b.s. and was so wrong. My woman gets off about a million times more from internal stimulation than tickling the love button. I'm not saying everything in the article isn't accurate - it is probably fine - but don't diss the ol' in and out and all the other stuff you can do without getting hung up on the button...


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