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alansmithee 02-02-2005 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
Alright here is a semi-related topic question.

What the fuck is the deal with schools doing away with honor rolls? I mean are kids that big of pussies these days? Anybody else that the PC crew is taking it a little far in some respects?

I saw firsthand knowledge of something like this. My sister went to my same grade school for awhile. When I was there, there was generally 3 marks-exceptional, satisfactory, and unsatisfactory. When my sister went there there were still 3, but they had changed to exceptional, satisfactory, and chooses not to perform up to ability.

Children are too coddled today. It's a fact that some are smarter, some more athletic, some more charismatic, etc. It seems instead of finding a place for the average or below average students, they want to make everyone the same, which comes as a big shock when these people can't compete because they aren't used to dealing with situations where they are bettered.

filtherton 02-03-2005 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by alansmithee
But the problem with basing it on what someone personally feels is that you don't know if it's something that they accquired or was born with. You need scientific data. I can't see myself enjoying lima beans. I can eat lima beans, but I can't enjoy them. Same goes for country music, I can't stand it. Neither gives me special status.

And there are numerous reasons someone would subject themselves to scorn or mistreatment. For one (something that happens with many minorities) if you fail at a task, you have a instant excuse-bigotry. And for the same scorn recieved, there are many people who have great sympathy for gays. You also gain special status, you are instantly outside the norm which people often find apealling. You instantly gain your own subculture and support network. Honestly, there's numerous reasons why people do inflict suffering on themselves; many times they have some psychological makeup which doesn't translate it to the same suffering others see it as.

And also, it's still debated if homosexual couples do raise children as well as regular couples. Again, i find it hard to believe that the best home for a child doesn't contain a mother and father, but that's still being debated. And those children don't come from a union of the couple, they are from outside marriage or a lab.

What i'm asking you is how you personally feel. Do you think your sexual orientation is a choice? If so, when did you make that choice? What if your boss fired you for not liking lima beans?

If you saw conclusive proof that homosexual couples were as good as hetero couples in terms of child rearing would you favor financial benefits for homosexual couples?

wnker85 02-03-2005 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Coppertop
wnker85, was any part of your post other than the first sentence directed at me? If so, kindly point out where I said/did such things. If not, then have a nice day.


Not at all, It was and indirect statement for all the bashing peopel for certian veiws. Sorry I wasn't meaning it that way. It was all general. I think I came off stronger than I would have liked. But, my room mate is someone who is antagonistic to Christians, and has the audacity to try and make me feel bad for my faith and make it seem (and says it directly as well) like he is better than Christians for "blindly following" as he has put it. When he han't the slightest idea on what the theroy of Evolution is about and how it works. (very hypocritcal and rude can't wait till next year)


My apologies, if i was taken the wrong way. All I wanted to say that some people wish not to have their children exposed to sexuality at a young age. None of these words should ever be used. But in the spirt of the week, those who are bashing anti-gay (lets say) should step back and see that they are just imposing their veiws on others in the name of equality which is very hypocritcal. I think that civility is the better choice to teach, becuase if we all treat poeple with respect then everyone is happy. IF KKK guy can act nice to a gay person or black, I have no problem with him going to his Klan meeting. (as long as it stays within the meeting/group and doesn't lead to outwards acts)

BUt back on track

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Originally Posted by filtherton
If you saw conclusive proof that homosexual couples were as good as hetero couples in terms of child rearing would you favor financial benefits for homosexual couples?

Homosexuals can be just as loving, but I think the problem is that people are afraid that the over the top "Mr Slave" will have children and turn his children into over the top people as well. The issue here is the perception of the gay community, that they are all orgy going people who sleep around. If a true mature couple couldn't raise the children any better than a straight couple, and and vise versa; my political veiws would have no problem with it.

alansmithee 02-03-2005 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by filtherton
What i'm asking you is how you personally feel. Do you think your sexual orientation is a choice? If so, when did you make that choice? What if your boss fired you for not liking lima beans?

If you saw conclusive proof that homosexual couples were as good as hetero couples in terms of child rearing would you favor financial benefits for homosexual couples?

I personally feel it is a choice. It might be somewhat subconscious, but I believe it's a choice. I think many things go into sexual orientation, it's mainly a social construct in my opinion. And there would be no way for my boss to know if I like lima beans, unless I parade it around. If for some reason it was found out and I got fired, it would bother me, but it would be in my employers right (unless I had a contract saying otherwise). But any smart employer wouldn't do that, unless my dislike of lima beans was distracting alot of other employees or was affecting my work.

And if there was conclusive proof that homosexual couples were as good at raisning kids, I would favor benefits for the couples who have children. My gut instinct says no, but if they are as good as hetero couples at childrearing then they should be commended for adopting a kid who would be otherwise stuck in a forster system, and I would have no problem allowing them all benefits of marriage.

filtherton 02-03-2005 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by alansmithee
I personally feel it is a choice. It might be somewhat subconscious, but I believe it's a choice. I think many things go into sexual orientation, it's mainly a social construct in my opinion. And there would be no way for my boss to know if I like lima beans, unless I parade it around. If for some reason it was found out and I got fired, it would bother me, but it would be in my employers right (unless I had a contract saying otherwise). But any smart employer wouldn't do that, unless my dislike of lima beans was distracting alot of other employees or was affecting my work.

And if there was conclusive proof that homosexual couples were as good at raisning kids, I would favor benefits for the couples who have children. My gut instinct says no, but if they are as good as hetero couples at childrearing then they should be commended for adopting a kid who would be otherwise stuck in a forster system, and I would have no problem allowing them all benefits of marriage.

Fair enough.

Dwayne 02-11-2005 04:28 PM

Back to the original topic at hand. I find it horrible that SOME conservative christians acuse everything a homesexual does as a plot to spread homosexuality. So hypothetically, if a homosexual where to bring peace on Earth, then its a plot to turn all our kids gay. Homosexuals don't want to turn everyone gay, they just want to be treated like regular people. I wish everyone would just let people live and let live, just because you would never want to have sex with another person of your sex doesnt mean you should ban others from doing it. They arnt hurting anyone with their beliefs, so leave them alone!!!

Also No Name Calling week would cause kids to call other kids names more than if they didnt have the week. Kids are like that.


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