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US Military bases are welcomed at the time of the treaty signing. It would be "colonialism" if we just showed up and said "I claim this land for Spain". Look if I sign a rent contract and decide later on that I dont want it, they can still hold me to it. It works the same internationally. As long as the contract states, and as long as both sides stay within the bounds the treaty is valid.
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It's kinda tough when they blend into the populace, you know guerilla warfare? Or when tactics such as terrorism are employed.
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I don't think the Sunnis will be accurately presented in the elections because they don't believe in these elections because of us or U.S. Anyways the voter turn-out may be so low that it might not be even considered a legitimate election. But I guess we'll see how it turns out.
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Its more likely if one side gets too much power then bigger conflict will occur
You all do realize that Shia and Sunni differences have occured since oh about 700AD? Think of it as the old conflict between Protestants and Roman Catholics or even Roman Catholics and the Orthodox... just that it happens these two sides live next to each other. One could say Iraq vs. Iran happened in the 80's between the two sides largely because of ideology, one being Sunni the other being Shia. |
Saddam feared a Shiite revolt like what had just happened in Iran. He took the head Shiite cleric of Iraq prisoner, tortured him by setting his beard on fire, pounding nails into his head, and then executing him. He then invaded, it wasn't an ethnic conflict in any major sense, Saddam has always been a paranoid nut job, this is a prime example.
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I popped in here and after 3 minutes of reading, I realize why I never come in here. It is a polite version of Fark. Carry on, guys! I am clearly in the wrong place. Back to Tilted Sexuality! :D
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While the turnout is somewhat low, the consensus seems to be that the elections went
as well as anyone could hope for, and for the Sunni voters, it seems things went fairly well for them, too. Nothing much can really be said until some kind of analysis can be done on the actual votes and voters -- sometime after this whole thing is over, to see if was as eventful as everyone could have hoped for. Also, the most important thing, is that most of the Iraqis who voted today, were sincerely enthusiastic about the thought of a free election. Also, the fact that was little violence, justs adds more support to their want of the election. |
Turn out low??
It looks like 60% plus voted. That's a landslide success! It certainly was low if you were a Sunni and you decided to stay home or if you just want the election to fail because of your own political interest (not your as in you, but in general). |
I was watching C-SPAN today and they had great coverage. Lots of Iraqi guests and callers. They were all so excited. They were crying to have been able to decide their countries future.
Truly a great day for Iraq. An interesting quote from one of the moderators was that 'Now the insurgents are not fighting the occupiers, they are fighting against democracy.' I was moved to tears. It was amazing to watch people experience democracy for the first time. However it turns out, today was an amazing first step. |
Congradulations, Iraq.
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Well I guess it turn out better than I thought except for the more than 30 killed in senseless attacks from the insurgents. I hope they realize they are killing their own people.
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Not only that but the insurgents actually used a child with downs syndrome as one of the suicide bombers. I just wonder what makes someone think that strapping a bomb to a handicapped child to go blow up a bunch of innocent people of your own country is OK... It seems absolutely psychotic to me.
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Then I was brought back to earth after I read what Kerry, Kennedy, et al., had to say about it. They just had to say something negative, in the face of something so overwhelmingly positive. Zero tact, zero class. |
I was surprised too at the elections outcome. Death toll of 44 on election day http://www.freep.com/news/nw/iraq-bar131e_20050131.htm which really surprised me and totally blew away my predictions of tragedy I'm sure some of you had read on other threads. It is a historical day for the Iraqi people...but it would have been regardless of casualities. I'm sure the Bush administration finally let out collective sigh they've been holding in since March 2003, "Even though my war rhetoric was completely fabricated and my own countrie's economy is in shambles...I forced democracy on the same people me and my daddy have been blowing up for a decade."
'Grats Dubya, you got your PR shoot, now if you would listen to history you'd realize that people forced into democracy over night often revert to a dictatorship in the same amount of time. |
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