That would make war an act of terrorism. Which would make the US terrorists. Will you invade yourselves once you're finished with Iraq and Jodie Foster?

DJ happy, OK, throw in the word "illegal" before the word "act". Better?

Sirhan Sirhan claimed after the shooting that he shot him because of his stance on Israel.

get a room guys... or a cyber room with some webcams attached... anyway...


ok... but you should know....
.... you'll be hearing from my lawyer.

The invasion of Iraq has been declared illegal, so it doesn't really change anything.

Interestingly enough, your definition of terrorism is pretty much the same as the dictionary's, although to me it still doesn't sound complete enough. I would add the distinction of intentionally targeting civilians as well.

To be fair to daswig, his definition of terrorism is very close to that adopted by the US Government and defined in section 212 (a)(3)(B) of the Immigration and Nationality Act.


US Department of State - 2001 Report on Foreign Terrorist Organizations.
http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/rpt/ft...cfm?docid=5258

So an assassination IS, under US law at least, terrorism.


Mr Mephisto

DJ Happy, declared illegal by what competent body? And please don't try to trot out Kofi...he's lucky he's not in prison now.

Thanks, Mephisto. J.D.s with insomnia don't generally make shit up, but at the same time, if we're not creating billable hours, we do tend to go from memory.

Declared illegal by the United Nations; the only body that can do so.

And I'm absolutely GOBSMACKED... actually, I'm apalled at your comment on Kofi Annan.

You may not like him but he's one of the most respected men on the planet.

In PRISON?

What kind of drugs are you on? You've completely lost the plot now... :)


Mr Mephisto

Hahaha... Bill them. Bill them ALL!


Mr Mephisto

Accepting bribes and peddling influence for personal profit is still a crime even for members of the UN, isn't it? Need we open the whole "Oil for Food" pandora's box?

And you're lucky people still respond to you. Tell me, have you ever posted a link to substantiate your position in your life?

I will continue to say the UN and Kofi Annan as even if he personally accepted large briefcases full of dollar bills while sipping pina coladas on an Hawaiin sun lounger, it doesn't change the UN Charter definition of an illegal invasion (which was the same definition that was used when deciding to invade Iraq after Iraq illegally invaded Kuwait).

I will also say Richard Perle.

I will add to that the US Constitution.

This was a preemptive war (can't argue with that). This was a war based, at least in the beginning, on weapons of mass destruction (can't argue with that). Geroge W. Bush has said that we did not find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq (can't argue with that, see the debates for proof). Therefore, we attacked Iraq because we thought they had WMD, but they didn't. Now I don't remember anyone apologizing for that. Actually, we still occupy Iraq. A preemptive war not based in truth on a body that never threatened the U.S. I don't know much about the law, but if there isn't a law against this, shouldn't there be?

We, the USA, are going to find ourselves in a bad position if someone decides to press charges in a world court. They say they need to charge people, we say no. They insist, we say no. What happnes next?

The good in Bush is that he is consistant. At least we know how he will respond. I suppose that's one of the few things he has over Kerry.

If you're accusing Kofi Annan of personally being involved, then yes. Yes we do.

Otherwise, making unfounded accusations is still a crime, even for Americans, isn't it?


Mr Mephisto