I wouldn't expect any other response.

Edit: perhaps his statement was not very civil but your blanket assertion seemed to be a general smear. Anyway, feel free to respond but I have no interest in debating any point like this. Too friggin' tedious.

It is not possible to prove something is a lie. You can prove it is false, but you cannot prove it was intentionally false. Unless the intention is admitted.

/evidence by virtue of logic

Careful folks.

We all know what happens if it can't be kept civil and adult.

These days, when I scan the new posts in Politics, if Lebell is the last poster I instantly wonder if the thread has been locked.

Naw...you just have to look for that little lock graphic to see if the thread's been locked :D

Too bad about Opie...
Media is anything that is not word of mouth as far as I'm concerned. Books, TV, radio, internet; all of them are media. The media in mainstream tv seems to be biased at times. I'm assuming we are talking about tv and magazines here.

Books: Books are permament. You buy it, and you can read it over and over again, each time finding new truths to it. That is great, but books are just as likely to be biased as any other media. A lot of people forget that. You go out and buy a book by Pat Robertson, for example. He is a brilliant man, and has some good ideas about things, but you have to remember that he is human, too. He has his opinion about things, and those opinions are put in his books.

Tv: we have all of these news networks that just sprung up over the last maybe 6 or 7 years. They run news 24 hours a day, and are owned by father companies. These father companies are already experienced in media, and can have agendas. What worries me, though, is how a lot of people take everything thaty's said on TV as gospel truth. I know that you can get a lot of information through media, but a lot of it has a spin. We have to be able to discern what truth is out of our own personal experiences.

Radio: most people just listen to radio for music, but I've found it's a great place to find grass roots progamming. Why would anyone want to listen to grass roots? Basically, because they are not run by a corporation. Things like NPR and Free Speech Radio are strong advocates of free speech and honestly try to tell us what might have been left out by CNN or the Washington Post.

Internet: this is the single greatest source of information in history thus far. It is a tool for people to circumvent normal rules of information sharing. It is full of bias from end to end, and everything inbetween.

Just trying to get the post back on track.

As always you are more than welcome to offer evidence that my "blanket assertion" is wrong. But since you don't want to debate it there's no point.

sweet sweet

I saw in Sunday's paper that Bill O'Reiley came out in support of Dan Rather and said that most of the ill will directed his way during the election was unfounded. Being the arch-conservative that O'Reiley is he bravely waited until after the election and well after the scandal to speak his mind. Next he's going to let us know he thinks the space shuttle is unsafe, that cigarettes cause cancer, and that the Cardinals should have invested in better pitching, thanks Bill!