I have had enough - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

tecoyah · 09-12-2004, 08:38 AM

It would seem the basic human ability to be rational has lost its usefulness in the TFP politics forum. I have watched people act so very childish, and sometimes downright nasty towards each other on a regular Basis, it has grown old. Not that it will be much of a loss, but I am no longer going to contribute in this area of TFP, as I find myself becoming more like those who are the reason for my frustration.
Perhaps after the election cycle we can all act as we once did in here.....and respect the opinions of individuals, One can only hope.

See you in January.

pan6467 · 09-12-2004, 08:43 AM

Tecoyah,

Why let others silence you and chase you away. Stand up, debate your beliefs and let those who disagree and want to be childish do so. It only hurts their arguments.

You can ignore posters, or if a post bothers you move on don't react. There are some on here who flame and troll to elicit reactions just so that person believes they won.

Tec, I have great respect for you and I learn from you, don't ever let anyone silence you or take away your will to voice your opinion.

Your choice, I respect you no matter what you do, you are a great passionate person.

irateplatypus · 09-12-2004, 08:46 AM

sorry to hear that buddy.

i myself took a similar sabatical earlier this year. TFP is leisure time for me and when it becomes personally frustrating and abusive it's no longer worth it... so i know how you feel. anyway, i hope you at least come back in november after the election. if you poke your head in once or twice before then i won't think any less of ya. see you on the other boards.

JumpinJesus · 09-12-2004, 08:54 AM

Tecoyah,

We haven't sparred politically, but I have read many of your posts and the thoughtfulness that goes into them is needed in here. Even if we disagree on the issues, we can't give up control of intelligent debate to those who wish to use shrill rhetoric to guide their opinions. To keep my sanity, I only post on occassion.

I respect your decision, but hope you reconsider.

roachboy · 09-12-2004, 10:31 AM

while i understand the decision, that you would implement it is a shame, tecoyah.

pan6467 · 09-12-2004, 10:46 AM

You know Tec., after my "Mad AS HELL...." thread led to nothing but personal attack and spewing of hatred, perhaps my first post here was done in haste. Perhaps there can not be any civility on this board. Hell, we can't have civility in our own government, why should we expect it from the people.

ShaniFaye · 09-12-2004, 11:02 AM

I back you 100% Tecoyah...it seems that its just not possible to state your opinion in a civilized way without having people come back at you in many different ways...if your post isnt almost an entire page long, annotated and containing quotes and a bibliography to back you "position" then you're "not informed" and thus not worth "debating" with.

To me some of the things that go on in the politics forum are just childish.

meepa · 09-12-2004, 11:09 AM

Man that's weak. You're just running away because you support [insert candidate here] and he is a [insert string of explicatives here] that will never win the election because [insert specious arguments here] and everyone who supports the [insert opposing party here] just owns you in every discourse.

Just kidding... Sometimes one must step back and laugh about something when one realizes its seriousness is giving one a hernia

I feel ya though... I mostly lurk in the politics forum because it's like watching a train wreck in action... A train wreck carrying lots of hazardous and explosive materials. And I fear if I get too close, I'll either get poisoned or blown up. Or both and become radioactive gibs lying about everywhere...

powerclown · 09-12-2004, 01:37 PM

What about the other 52 forums here instead of this one??

Boo · 09-12-2004, 03:27 PM

I personally believe that the moderators do a fine job for such an explosive forum. Tilted politics does require that you put on a thicker skin at times.

While I rarely agree with your statements, they always seem to make me internally rejustify my position. That I appreciate. Thank-you.

P.S. If you think you are frustrated, what about the people trying to get America out of its current situation? No matter what they do, it backfires.

09-12-2004, 08:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
tecoyah Illusionary	I have had enough It would seem the basic human ability to be rational has lost its usefulness in the TFP politics forum. I have watched people act so very childish, and sometimes downright nasty towards each other on a regular Basis, it has grown old. Not that it will be much of a loss, but I am no longer going to contribute in this area of TFP, as I find myself becoming more like those who are the reason for my frustration. Perhaps after the election cycle we can all act as we once did in here.....and respect the opinions of individuals, One can only hope. See you in January. __________________ Holding onto anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. - Buddha

09-12-2004, 08:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Tecoyah, Why let others silence you and chase you away. Stand up, debate your beliefs and let those who disagree and want to be childish do so. It only hurts their arguments. You can ignore posters, or if a post bothers you move on don't react. There are some on here who flame and troll to elicit reactions just so that person believes they won. Tec, I have great respect for you and I learn from you, don't ever let anyone silence you or take away your will to voice your opinion. Your choice, I respect you no matter what you do, you are a great passionate person. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

09-12-2004, 08:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
irateplatypus can't help but laugh Location: dar al-harb	sorry to hear that buddy. i myself took a similar sabatical earlier this year. TFP is leisure time for me and when it becomes personally frustrating and abusive it's no longer worth it... so i know how you feel. anyway, i hope you at least come back in november after the election. if you poke your head in once or twice before then i won't think any less of ya. see you on the other boards. __________________ If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. ~ Winston Churchill

09-12-2004, 08:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
JumpinJesus Junkie Location: Chicago	Tecoyah, We haven't sparred politically, but I have read many of your posts and the thoughtfulness that goes into them is needed in here. Even if we disagree on the issues, we can't give up control of intelligent debate to those who wish to use shrill rhetoric to guide their opinions. To keep my sanity, I only post on occassion. I respect your decision, but hope you reconsider. __________________ "I can normally tell how intelligent a man is by how stupid he thinks I am" - Cormac McCarthy, All The Pretty Horses

09-12-2004, 10:31 AM	#5 (permalink)
roachboy Super Moderator Location: essex ma	while i understand the decision, that you would implement it is a shame, tecoyah. __________________ a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear it make you sick. -kamau brathwaite

09-12-2004, 10:46 AM	#6 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	You know Tec., after my "Mad AS HELL...." thread led to nothing but personal attack and spewing of hatred, perhaps my first post here was done in haste. Perhaps there can not be any civility on this board. Hell, we can't have civility in our own government, why should we expect it from the people. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

09-12-2004, 11:02 AM	#7 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	I back you 100% Tecoyah...it seems that its just not possible to state your opinion in a civilized way without having people come back at you in many different ways...if your post isnt almost an entire page long, annotated and containing quotes and a bibliography to back you "position" then you're "not informed" and thus not worth "debating" with. To me some of the things that go on in the politics forum are just childish. __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

09-12-2004, 11:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
meepa Insane	Man that's weak. You're just running away because you support [insert candidate here] and he is a [insert string of explicatives here] that will never win the election because [insert specious arguments here] and everyone who supports the [insert opposing party here] just owns you in every discourse. Just kidding... Sometimes one must step back and laugh about something when one realizes its seriousness is giving one a hernia I feel ya though... I mostly lurk in the politics forum because it's like watching a train wreck in action... A train wreck carrying lots of hazardous and explosive materials. And I fear if I get too close, I'll either get poisoned or blown up. Or both and become radioactive gibs lying about everywhere...

09-12-2004, 01:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
powerclown Junkie Location: Detroit, MI	What about the other 52 forums here instead of this one??

09-12-2004, 03:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
Boo Leave me alone! Location: Alaska, USA	I personally believe that the moderators do a fine job for such an explosive forum. Tilted politics does require that you put on a thicker skin at times. While I rarely agree with your statements, they always seem to make me internally rejustify my position. That I appreciate. Thank-you. P.S. If you think you are frustrated, what about the people trying to get America out of its current situation? No matter what they do, it backfires. __________________ Back button again, I must be getting old.