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....so we won the war, North Korea next?
I tend to stay away from this stuff but, I heard today that since we had liberated Iraq we were now turing out focus to NK.
As memory servers they were flaunting that they had Nukes (or the ability to make Nukes) but we just gave them the cold shoulder. So for our troops, is it next stop NK? Home? somewhere else? Remember: NO FLAMING |
I havn't heard anything about us going after NK. I doubt we will though.
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I don't think so either.
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Only time will tell. |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but werent they going to go after Syria next? With easter shifts, I've fallen out on what exactly is going on.
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I dunno...now NK is bragging about starting production of weapons-grade plutonium...WTF are they thinking??
I really don't see this as a good idea. MPEDrummer |
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Unfortunately, Blair, Bush and Bush's little string puppet Howard thought differently. |
Yes, NK recently announced they have commenced re-processing of spent fuel, the first step to creating bombs, commonly.
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I vote we pick on smaller countries.
That way we know we will win. |
North Korea would be a much bigger risk, especially with their nukes.
Besides, few thought the US wouldn't win the war in Iraq (although they may have disagreed on the potential costs), the bigger question has always been what happens next. |
I'm almost sure I heard some talk about Syria. Now it seems that Iran is back in the picture with all their "occupying Iraq" stuff and I think North Korea is at the negotiation tables, last I heard.
Of course, with my big project coming up and finals to study for I don't get much CNN/MSNBC/Fox News fix like I used to. |
In answer to the original question, I've asked some people who know some people and its going to be February 3rd next year. But could be delayed if Syria or Saudi Arabia don't fall in a few weeks.
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I doubt that George Bush has got the political currency to go after ANYONE after what happened in Iraq. No way would the domestic public bankroll another war. USA wanted to "hit-back" at middle east for 9/11, it's done that.
Besides NK has already calmed down. Iran, Pakistan, etc worry me. |
okay, so that Syria thing was for real. (only heard it from a comedian so I left it out)
Okay, I hate the mainstream news of late (have you seen the fox clips? eeks....another thread another thread) anyway, why are we interested in Syria? Is it just convient since we are already in the area or what? |
if north korean decides to nuke, their warheads wont reach anywhere. so theyll hit South korea. if south korea is hit... (with a nuke)
north korea is gone as well, so its basically a suicide attack. and also that whole asian peninsula of korea wont be inhabitable for over 40 years. and all the nuclear dust will fly towards japan from climate patterns, and basically, itll be like japan is getting nuked for the 3rd time in history... U.S does NOT want north and south korea to reunite because of economy, i dont 100% understand that, but i think george bush should suck my dick. im a korean, and if my family is nuked bcause of him, boy he gonna hear it from me. |
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why woudl you blame George Bush for what NK decides to do with their nukes? Now if USA nuked korea, fine. But I sense a little misdirected agression here. |
N Koprea is really more of a problem for China to deal with. The Nuclear club plays by a very different set of rules than what N Korea is attempting
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see what happens when you dont proof-read posts?
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If you take out Syria, you take out big player in the terrorism scene, and you'd finally free Lebanon. But after Iraq, I think governments in that area will start to worry; they could be next if they fuck up. I think you'll see a gradual shift to more US-friendly actions (on the outside anyway), especially if US troops remain in Iraq for a while (military bases, or protection force, or whatever). As for North-Korea... the US are not likely to go to war over their actions. A preemptive strike will lead to China's involvement. If NK strikes first, they're toast, and everyone knows that. |
I really think that North Korea can be handled diplomatically. North Korea is just flexing a bit of it's nuclear muscle in a game of global blackmail, and to increase the morale of its suffering citizens. A little pressure from China and the rest of the world will hopefully make them drop their guns.
If we have to go in, I'm afraid it would end in nuclear disaster, so the best we can do here is hope that N Korea has the sense to shape up. The ball is basically in their court. Quote:
I haven't heard any officials say that we are even threatening force with them, as far as I can tell it is only inferred by people for whom it is convenient to their views to see America as "looking for a fight". |
My biggest fear is that the US is going to target Syria. I think that will have a real destabilizing effect on the entire region. With the latest agreement to hand over some of the top Iraqis, though, it seems that we won't have to worry too much about a Syrian war.
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i agree w/ the fact that n.korea is not something easy to conquer.
thye have a highly trained army that wont have any desertions (like iraq) and what if the same thing that happened in the korean war happen again? |
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We were beating the North Koreans untill china sent in over 200k troops, thats when cease fire came into effect.
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you really think china's going to be cool w/ us installing a democratic free regime right next to their border? |
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Let's be very specific. It isn't international terrorism in the sense that it does much terror anywhere but Israel (or at least directed at Israelis) so attacking Syria to end terror would basically be going out of your way to help make it easier for Israel's right wing to push its agenda without fear of opposition. Quote:
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I think it will be Syria next. North Korea SHOULD be next, but George seems to be very focussed on the middle east.
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I don't think we'll go to war before the next election. Bush wouldn't want to risk it. But if we do go, how about France? I mean, that should be an easy enough victory and we've already demonized them in the media so the American people will support it.
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Damn you Smashy for opposing me on the new TFP! (Hi, by the way) :)
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Besides, the fact that Syria supports terrorism in Israel, when they're formally not at war, means that technically, they support international terrorism, it being based and perpetrated outside of Syria. The PLO used to fight from Lebanon before the Israelis kicked them out. The PLO and their kin attacked the Israeli athletes at the Olympics in Germany - again, international terrorism. Terror is terror, and it's a crime no matter who it is directed at. Ending terror in the area would make peace in Israel a real possibility, whereas not ending it does not. Quote:
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I suppose that in a way is a good thing n.k are not to friendly with there neighbors.
If usa do decide they are next we will be right behind you or in front depends who you talk to. gb i mean. |
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Nice to see most everyone back!
Gents, regional politics played a part in the Iraq war and will play a part in a decision to attack or not attack Syria. Regional politics will also play a very large part in Korea. We won't attack Korea because it won't accomplish what we want and there are too many downsides. This isn't 'right' or 'wrong', it's just the way it is when politics and national interests are involved. |
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we will if they keep threatening to nuke us. |
The difference between the war with Iraq and N. Korea is that we knew that war with Iraq would be a cake walk. NK on the other hand will fight back. Also a war against them would affect the world economy. S. Korea's economy would be affected and so would Japans. China involvement would only make that worse. I think we should leave that problem to the Asian countries to deal with. It has no direct affect on the U.S. other than our troops in the DMZ.
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yup, bush is going to go w/ the easy targets.
he's not gonna mess w/ the big dogs |
yeah, I'm betting Syria
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It won't be North Korea next.
China is too sensitive to that. If anything look for Syria or some African nation. |
No blood for oil. Wait, what does North Korea have? No blood for starcraft.
I enjoy when there's talk of going to war, if only just for the reaction of "the left." |
Nice to see everyone back!
Call me a peace loving fool, but how about we clean up Iraq and Afganistan before we go picking another fight? The cynic in me thinks that we are starting the war of words with Syria to distract the debate from post war Iraq. Black market antiquities, anyone? I know just the guy... |
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