Saddam in US Custody!!!
 

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BAGHDAD, Iraq — Without firing a single shot, U.S. forces captured Saddam Hussein as he hid in the bottom of a hole in a home near Tikrit, officials announced Sunday at a Baghdad press conference.

"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him," L. Paul Bremer, the U.S. administrator in Iraq, announced.

"The tyrant is a prisoner," Bremer said.

The former Iraqi dictator was captured Saturday at 8:30 p.m. in the cellar of a farmhouse in the town of Adwar, 10 miles from Tikrit, ending one of the most intense manhunts in history. Saddam has been on the run since the fall of Baghdad to U.S. forces on April 9.

Officials showed a videotape of Saddam, the most-wanted figure by the U.S.-led coalition, as he was being inspected following his capture. The 66-year-old had a long black-and-gray beard and unkempt black hair. Journalists were then shown a video of Saddam after he was shaved.

Damn straight, those WMD should be rollin in within the next few months now. Now we need to get Osama, because if we don't he will be taking over the counter-Coalition ops in Iraq, and that would suck.

Hope it puts an end to all the death and destruction in Irac

YAhooooo

It won't. All we've done now is piss off Sadaam's supporters even more. He's now a martyr for their cause, and they will fight all the more fiercely now that this has happened.

BTW, I'd have been much more impressed if we'd captured bin Laden, who actually did something to us ;)

I think you're wrong- any reason they had has now vanished. Those who were still supporting him out of hopes for power and wealth if and when he returned have now seen this vanish before their eyes. Sorta' like owning a lottery ticket when you hear on the news that no one won. I believe that there will be a deluge of information and assistance from the Iraqi people now that they know for certain that he will never be back. As for bin Laden - I have a feeling that the temperature on his ass was just turned back up to "high" and all the burners are back under his pot. It will be interesting to listen to the Demo"critic" candidates if everything that has been said about Saddam and his regime comes true over the next few weeks. Dean can probably go back to making maple syrup or whatever it is that he does when we're not blessed with him on TV all of the time.

Wonderful news. Now after so many, many years of subjugation, the people of Iraq can finally have their country back.

Lets crucify him.

Besides being in US custody what reason does Saddam have to tell the world where the WMD are if there are any in Iraq. We've deposed him, killed his aids, killed his kids, etc. While this all looks grand and good right now, I see the possiblity that this could be bad for someone besides Saddam in the future.

Prophecy, how's about this deal: Saddam tells the US where the WMDs are, and they'll persuade their Iraqi friends not to execute him. They might even send him to the Hague instead...

I think he's a pussy at heart, he'll tell where they are to save his own ass.

Lets crucify him if he tells us or not?

The fact that he was captured alive seems to back you up there.

Good game for our side. I still don't support the reasons for the war, but I also don't think Saddam was a good person by any means and I'm glad to see him captured.

And I think this will help in Iraq. I would think a lot of his loyalists just blindly believed that he was some sort of godlike figure. It's hard to believe that when he's dug out of a filthy hut and he's in USA custody.

He's one of many war criminals in the ongoing war on terror. It won't end in our lifetime - nor should it. This is one step in a journey of many thousands.

WELL SAID, as always, ART
 

Enjoy the moment, but as Churchill said, "This isnt the beginning of the end, only the end of the beginning" (loosely quoted). We need to adjust our perspective to a struggle that will take generations.

Now that Saddam is caught I can't wait for the medias insatiable desire to subjectively convince the masses that there are WMD in Iran just as they did Iraq.

Maybe the Americans can rely on bogus info again like they did concerning Iraq and get sucked into believing that Iran now is going to destroy the world. And to N.Korea, your turn should come by Easter.

It kind of makes you wonder why he didn't kill himself since he had a gun when he was captured. Maybe he will be willing to cooperate with coalition forces.

This is a great day for the Iraqi people!!

I said it was because he's a pussy. Sure is easy to push people around when you've got body guards and your own army. Bring our shit to his grill and look at what happened, he ran away and hid in a hole like a bitch. Of course he wouldn't kill himself.

Yes, it's so GREAT for the Iraqi people to not get to run their own country. Get of of Iraq and it might become a GREAT day.

If the US even tries to get contracts for oil for thair own companies, then you're not helping the Iraqis.

Haag or nothing. It's not the US role to choose what happens to Saddam.

If he killed himself he would loose his power.Even incarcerated I think he will still yield some power.

If the American's killed him there would always be a shadow of doubt as to if it was the real Saddam that was killed.

Besides, knowing how lucrative book and movie deals are,he'd be a fool to kill himself.

Yeah sure, hahahaha.


Pff, he just doesn't want to die. We might decide to let him live if he shows us where all his weapons are too. Although I hope not, I've got a warm place in my heart for justice.

Awesome job US Military, one boogieman down one to go.

I would re-enlist just to be the triggerman.

But the detractors have already begun, first it was where is Saddam? You havent done anything until he is caught.

Now it will be something else, like well OBL is still running loose.

How come gasoline prices are not .25 cents a gallon yet?

And from Phaenx in the General Discussion thread:


These kind of statements really, truly frighten me. I mean, I know (or perhaps I hope) you're half kidding when you say things like this, but still, the mere thought that you want to turn this into a witch hunt, instead of actual, mature justice, sends chills down my spine.

Living in a hole in the ground. No mention in any report concerning comm capabilities and only $750k. My common sense tells me the only thing Saddam has been doing is hiding and growing a beard.

As far as show trials go this won't move the King of Pop one pica space.

2Wolves

I am glad they finally caught him, I only wish they had killed him, or he had killed himself. What a coward. Living in a whole with rats for bunk mates. How appropriate and fitting.

I wonder who turned him in for that 25 million dollar prize?

Congratualations are in order to the US special forces who caught this guy and to all the US and British military personell. As much as i have always disagreed with the reasons for this war, I admire the sacrifices that they have made and their bravery.

If I have one hope out of this it is that somehow the capture of saddam as a coward will demoralize those fighting for his old regime.

I'm being literal. Crucify him. The most painful death I can think of myself, and yet it's still not enough. This man killed hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of people. For decades he terrorized the citizens of Iraq, bullying raping and killing, what about them? You'd slap Saddam on the wrist and send him on his way, because fuck the victims right?

No, I'm not kidding, he needs to die.

The US didn't care back then, why should they care now?

It wasn't a matter of apathy. It's not prudent to dispatch of two enemies that are wiping each other out, what did you want? For the U.S. to go in there and crush both Iran and Iraq? They were doing the same job themselves, and we didn't even have to worry about all these other pissant nations bitching at us. But that isn't relevant to my statement. The point is that I care, that's why I say we make him pay for it.

If they need any help just whistle - I'll be glad to come help!

That's assuming there are WMD still in Iraq. Say what you will but perhaps the weapons where never there, or perhaps Saddam sold them off or dismantled them. Odds are we should have found something by now if they are there.

Whatever the case, the man looks like he's been living on the run. He was found in a dirt crawl space for god's sake. What makes you think he has any decent intel to give anyone?



I agree with 2wolves whole heartedly.

Great news! How appropriate, Saddam in a hole like the rat he is.
If he had half a sack he would at least have put up a token fight so they could have put him out of his misery.
He had loaded weapons on him and instead of acting like the soldier he proclaims to be, he cowered like a baby and surrendered.
No sentence could be too severe for that murdering asshole.
Now to find Osama Bin Hidin.

Yes lets treat him like jesus that will be real good. Mabye we can televise it live so people like you can watch it. How many extra US soldiers do you would die if we did that? Think before you speak please.

Personally I think its good that we found him alive because if nothing elce it eliminates any conspericy theories.

Cut the condescending bullshit.

I've thought quite a bit about it, and decided not to be a pussy because:

a) Generally, I believe mass-murderers deserve the death penalty.

And of course,

b) Noone likes him anyways.

I'm sure the oppressed people of Iraq are going to see what we've done and go "Hey, they killed the guy who stole my money, killed my family and raped my wife, lets get them."

You'll have to forgive me for thinking that's stupid. Also, I would LOVE to watch him die.

Im so glad the US troops caught this son of a bitch but I don't think it's going to change much in Iraq. Like many have said on here, all of hiz followers will target the US as their enemy and start building army's just like Saddam did. It's just a matter of time before another war and/or acts of terrorism breaks out.

He still has supporters. Killing him ,almost certainly, would directly result in Marines being killed that otherwise would not have. Then again, to be fair, locking him up might result in extra deaths of US marines as well...

Now its not like he dosent deserve to die, its just that doing so might create more bad than good, ESPICALLY if we did it in some public way like Crucifiction.

You are right, it wasn't apathy, it was approval. We gave him the weapons that he used, yes, the chemical weapons that he used. This is hypocrisy in the extreme.

Yeah, like those guys weren't going to attack us anyways. Barring an attempt to rescue Saddam (won't happen, I bet the security around him is obcene), I doubt they'll change their targets as well.

Might create more bad than good, like what? France might not like us? Saddams loyalists might try to kill us? Liberals might piss and moan? You see where I'm going with this, screw them. Justice, now that's a precious commodity in the west these days.

Oh, in that case they must have skipped the "Hey, we're going to use these on our civilians instead of the Iranian soldiers, bye." clause.

My opinion is that the capture of Saddam Hussein will benefit the world; if he is convicted by the Iraqi people. Saddam is a monster, equal to Hitler in that he is a dictator who has attempted genocide and has grown an army from hatred and fear which used to suppress his own people’ conscious and invaded another country with the ultimate goal of domination and retribution.
A very good friend of mine is a JAG Officer helping to write the new requirements for trial in an Iraqi controlled Nation. He has visited the mass graves and the torture chambers and has sent brief accounts of the suffering inflicted on the common man. Feel no sorrow for Saddam.
I do not believe the attacks on the Coalition will stop, but I have hope that justice will be served and prevail.

Funny though, the US knew all about what he was using them for for 10-11 years and even took Iraq of the terrorist-list and loaned them money...

and now he's a bad guy?

Pay per view? Proceeds to go to lowering the national debt.

"No! I'm Spartacus!"

2Wolves

This is a good thing. The fact that we had no business being there takes nothing away from it. HOWEVER! this is not the be all and end all of US foreign policy as it is, let alone as it ought to be.

I went to buy smokes this evening and they had a TV on in the Sleven. IT was showing what I assume was some back story on how our troops missed him last time. They cut to a shot of Hussien looking rough and wearing bottleglass glasses and saying how he'd fight on and on and on etc. So I turn to the clerk and say "So have we got him or not?" He tells me that we do indeed (from which I infer they were watching filler) and the woman standing at the counter says, "I sleep safer tonight." I left before I could laugh, because 1) He was never a threat to Americans, just Iraquis, and, indirectly through payments to families of "martyred" terrorists, Israelis, and 2) Short term, holding Hussein actually makes us less secure. Don't misread that: It is a worthwhile risk, but the crazies will start coming out of the woodwork because whe have had a success they cannot afford to let go unpunished. With a little luck, this will lead to the fanatics (their fanatics, not ours) making mistakes and getting caught before they blow up anything else significant. If it shakes out that way, then long term our security will improve incrementally.

Course, capturing bin-Laden would be more effective (and more dangerous), and rolling up and playing back al-Quaida would be the very thing, but I begin to digress more than I had intended to.

Yeah, i wonder if they will execute him. Its funny though, the media is saying that he is gonna get a proper UN trial. Does this mean that he is considered less dangerous than those people held in Guantanimo Bay for over two years.

I can't believe that people actually think the US should hand Saddam over to the Hague. Give him to the same bunch of pussies who didn't have the guts to go into Iraq and get him? How absurd! Oh, and by the way, Stalin was a real bad guy too, but the ENTIRE free world sided with him to overthrow Hitler. Life just sometimes works out that way-get over it. I'm with Phaenx. Fry Saddam to a crispy crunch.

I think it should be up to Iraq. If they wan't him to be tried internationally, I would prefer, but I think they should ultimately choose his fate. They suffered the most under him. Its great news that we nabbed him, and that's an understatement. I think in the short-term it will incite a rash of attacks again, but the insurgents will be squashed. Maybe this will force a lot of them out of hiding and they'll be caught easier. The weight that this must lift off the shoulders of the Iraqi people must be immense.

Many thanks to our troops for work well done.

Now if we can only mark Osama off our Christmas Wish list, we'd have a December to remember, as if it isn't already.

It was great to see the footage of the Iraqis celebrating. From Baghdad to Dearborn, MI.

I've got no problem with letting the bastard live if he gives up the info we really need. If not, fry his ass. Now if we really, really wanted to get that info, we'd turn him over to the Pakistanis or the Mossad to get it. However, it must be said that there are a few scientists out there who said they wouldn't divulge information until Saddam was either captured/killed and the Coalition had proof of it. So we may not get the WMD info directly from him, but we got other ppl we can get it from under the capture/death of Saddam condition. As soon as we begin to quash the Baathist supporters still there, we'll be able to go back to Afghanistan and smoke ole bin Laden out. Though I do think that all this stuff needs to be handled by the Iraqis, because if we don't let them do it, we really do become the occupiers and not the liberators.

First! he in no way deserves to be allowed to live.

Second! It isn't ours, or anyone elses other than the Iraqi peoples right to determine his fate.

I agree that he doesn't deserve to live. We should cut a deal with him along these lines "If you give up the info, WE won't kill you," not specifying who "we" are and by that we, I mean the United States and not Iraq.

Except that this wouldn't prove to be very conducive to obtaining information from other captives in the future.

I am in favour of killing him, slowly if possible. If we look at the results, we have two options:

1) Keeping him alive (in a third country if need be), only to remain a constant shadow over the future of Iraq; "He might return one day," will be the thoughts of both friends and allies...
2) Killing him might make him a martyr to his followers, but at least he'd be dead. He won't be coming back for a revolution, and he won't inspire/fund an armed uprising.

Interesting side-note, by the way: Hamas already critized the US for capturing Saddam (and showing it on the telly), because this was somehow insulting and humiliating to Arabs and Muslims worldwide... Bunch of morons. (And don't get me started on the Vatican, which *also* attacks the US for showing Saddam, as if he was an animal.)

I've also noticed today that many are saying we drugged him so he would look like a bumbling oaf on TV!

To Pres. Bush way to go you caught the guy who had absolutley nothing to do with Sept.11.


to the troops congrats.

If Saddam does not go to ICC, you're basically saying "we dont' care about what he did to people outside Iraq".

I thought we were saying "Fuck you bitches, you didn't help us so take a hike."

If Saddam goes to the ICC we are basically saying "we don't care about justice.".

I think Iraq would be happy to send whats left of him to Kwait and Iran when they are done.

Amazing. I'm with Ustwo on something. What happens to Hussien from here should be up to the Iraqis and no one else. When they're done with him, then anyone else who wants a shot can ask for one if there's anything left. (Personally, I'm in favor of a long life for him, behind bars. Alone with his thoughts. Going slowly mad.)