Rush fesses up!
 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,99731,00.html
NEW YORK — Radio talk show host and political commentator Rush Limbaugh stunned listeners Friday when he admitted that he is addicted to painkillers.

"You know I have always tried to be honest with you and open about my life," Limbaugh said on his program. "So I need to tell you today that part of what you have heard and read is correct. I am addicted to prescription pain medication."

Friday, October 10, 2003

Following is the full text of radio commentator Rush Limbaugh's statement on-air statement, Friday, Oct. 10, 2003, according to Premiere Radio, his broadcaster:


"You know I have always tried to be honest with you and open about my life. So I need to tell you today that part of what you have heard and read is correct. I am addicted to prescription pain medication.

"I first started taking prescription painkillers some years ago when my doctor prescribed them to treat post-surgical pain following spinal surgery. Unfortunately, the surgery was unsuccessful and I continued to have severe pain in my lower back and also in my neck due to herniated discs. I am still experiencing that pain.

"Rather than opt for additional surgery for these conditions, I chose to treat the pain with prescribed medication. This medication turned out to be highly addictive.

"Over the past several years I have tried to break my dependence on pain pills and, in fact, twice checked myself into medical facilities in an attempt to do so. I have recently agreed with my physician about the next steps.

"Immediately following this broadcast, I am checking myself into a treatment center for the next 30 days to once and for all break the hold this highly addictive medication has on me. The show will continue during this time, of course, with an array of guest hosts you have come to know and respect.

"I am not making any excuses. You know, over the years athletes and celebrities have emerged from treatment centers to great fanfare and praise for conquering great demons. They are said to be great role models and examples for others. Well, I am no role model. I refuse to let anyone think I am doing something great here, when there are people you never hear about, who face long odds and never resort to such escapes. They are the role models. I am no victim and do not portray myself as such. I take full responsibility for my problem.

"At the present time, the authorities are conducting an investigation, and I have been asked to limit my public comments until this investigation is complete. So I will only say that the stories you have read and heard contain inaccuracies and distortions, which I will clear up when I am free to speak about them.

"I deeply appreciate all your support over this last tumultuous week. It has sustained me. I ask now for your prayers. I look forward to resuming our excursion into broadcast excellence together."


I am by no means a Rush fan but is kinda' nice for him to admit he has a problem and has had the problem for quite some time. It does make you wonder if he would ever have dealt with the problem had he not been forced by current events.

Oops, well I guess that isn't as bad as smoking pot because you like to get high. Oh well, moral police always falls the hardest.

I would hope he will be turning himself in shortly. He has advocated on his show in the past that these types of drug offenses should be fully prosecuted, and I would expect nothing less from him now.

Nice little speech, hope everything works out for him.

That’s got to take a huge set of balls to confess on the radio to 20 million people- and a vengeful media - rather than sending out a publicist to do your dirty work for you.

Think about it, if you or I had to go into a rehab clinic we would only have to tell maybe 10-20 people. And you can lie to some if your embarrassed. He went on the air and told all his listeners and critics about his weakness. Love him or hate him, that takes guts

Good luck

""Immediately following this broadcast, I am checking myself into a treatment center for the next 30 days to once and for all break the hold this highly addictive medication has on me.""

Enough said. That takes balls. I only hope that if i were in that situation i would have the courage and strength to finally get myself out of it. Good for him and best of luck.


JamesS - he stated in the article that he turned himself into the police and they are conducting a full investigation, but they have asked him to limit his conversations about it. He also says several times that he takes full responsibility for his actions and that he is no role model. I seriously doubt he will try and duck and consequences of his actions.

Not really because to his fans -he can do no wrong.


If he walked into a drugstore and shot the pharmacist to steal oxycontin -His loyal listeners would think: "That pharmacist must've been a LIBERAL. Good Shootin Rush."

I'm waiting for that also.

Peryn - I would hope not, because if there's one thing I can't stand about political or moral figures (from either side of the aisle) it's the hypocrisy.

You know, the Bill Bennett types.

Read the article -- Limbaugh states that what he did was wrong and that he is not making excuses, nor does he want to be made into a "hero" for getting over his addiction.

#1 I'm pissed at Rush. I wouldn't call the guy a hero to me, but I have a lot of respect for him, and I still do, but I'm pissed he didn't take care of this himself earlier. He knew better.

#2 Liberals can't aruge on the merits of their beliefs on most issues, so try to destroy the man saying those things. All this does is give them ammo for the politics of personal destruction.

#3 Odds are Rush could have gotten away with it had he taken a Clinton stance. Nothing collected could have been used in court and the case against him was very weak. It did take balls to just say "Yes, I'm addicted." and I do respect him for that.

I wonder if this ordeal will change, at least a little bit, his opinion on hardline punishment of drug abusers.

I also wonder, if it did, would he have the balls to share his new perspective with his listeners? Or would he continue to tell them what they like to hear?

The hypocrisy of this piece of shit makes me want to puke. He's a big dumb meathead. I have never liked this asshole. Anyone with three brain cells in their head can see what a liar he is. First of all, he's so republican it even makes me sick. I mean, the fucker never disagrees with the republican party. Get a brain fuckface! It's OK to disagree with republicans once in a while. He's always wanted people to be punished as strictly as possible for shit like this and I hope he feels that wrath. Or better yet, I hope he takes a huge handful of pills and kills himself. I'm glad that everyone now sees what a weak pathetic lying sack of shit he is.

His act is over. There's nothing so pathetic as watching a bully try to flex their muscles after something like this has happened.

Vicodin is schedule III. The penalties for traffiking, which at the quantities he was buying he would qualify for, are:

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/scheduling.html

<b>First Offense: Not more than 5 years. Fine not more than $250,000 if an individual, $1 million if not an individual.

Second Offense: Not more 10 yrs. Fine not more than $500,000 if an individual, $2 million if not an individual </b>

I'd like to hear from the conservatives here what they think about drug sentencing and what penalties they think Rush deserves.

Yeah, it takes a lot of guts to admit you're a dope addict after its been disclosed against your will already. Had it not been brought to light, you wouldn't be hearing about it from the hypocritical blowhard.
He is on record as saying any illegal drug use should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. I hope the legal system takes him at his word and makes him an example of the wonderful war on drugs.
I'm sure 5 to 10 in the slammer will surely rehabilitate him.
The best thing about this is now we get to see all the Ditto heads, backpedal and try to explain why its different for Rush, and the laws he endorsed should not apply to him.
I believe jail is for people who are a threat to others well being, not for people with the sickness of addiction who need treatment not incarceration. But for Rush, I would make an exception. He knowingly broke many laws pertaining to illegal drugs, he advocates jail for that offense, so lets lock him up.
To quote Rush " illegal drug users should be sent up"

Agree 100%...I can't wait for the..."but this is different, they were pills."

I'm sorry but you obviously never listen to his show if you say he never disagrees with the republican party. In fact he took a lot of heat from his 'fans' for criticizing GWB and the republican party on a large number of issues. Most people I find who like to bash Rush have never listened to Rush at all or more then a very short time. Not everything can be condensed into a sound byte.

it's too bad... but it is difficult to ask for mercy when your public career has been to advocate denying mercy to others. maybe it will change his mind.

The times that I've listened to him I've never heard him disagree with anything. I don't listen too him much because he's obviously always been a liar.

It's too bad.
But this may end up broadening and deepening the conservative discourse. He tended to be a focus - and also a target. His guest hosts always provide extra perspective and broaden the show's message(s).
Actually, these events will probably result in a needed education for his core audience, who focus too much on him as their spokesperson.
Bad for Rush, good for conservatism in the long run.

When he confessed, in the distance, could you hear the librerals cheering?

This reminds me of Jeb Bush pleading for compassion for his daughter even though he showed no sympathy for other drug offenders, cutting drug treatment budgets and opposing the lessening of penaltlies for drug offenders. The word "hypocrite" does not do him justice.

Still, I don't wish to see Rush go to jail since I don't like to alter my beliefs for the sake of payback. I hope this incident opens the eyes of Rush and his listeners. Maybe Rush can do some soul-searching and thinking and come out a new man. Who knows, maybe he'll even become a liberal.

Rush has been on the air for well over a decade. I would be interested in knowning what these lies are. I've listened to him off and on for the last 10 years. I don't agree with everything he has said, I don't agree with his logic at times even when I agree on the basic issue, but I've never caught him lying once. I'm sure he has been wrong on an issue over the last 16 years or however long he has been on the air, but after 1000's of 3 hour shows, you can't expect him NOT to get something wrong a few times. I get my news from all sources, I even look at places as biased and nutty as truthout.org, but I've never seen anything credible about Rush lying. Of course whenever Al Franken gets called on his lies, he is given a pass because 'he is a comedian'.

But as always destroy the messanger if you can't fault the message.

I have one more comment regarding this issue. I want to call to task all the people bringing up the subject of jail. Nobody in the United States has ever gone to jail for being a illegal drug user. You have to be caught with product in hand. A sting, a legal stop and search with drugs turning up, etc. He used drugs, yes, he has said as much. A police case that would put him in jail, no. That would be equivalent to a drug dealer saying after he's arrested that he sold drugs to you, and the police coming to arrest you. Without a bust with the drugs involved, you have nothing but a popcorn fart.

Or, say, a maid with taped evidence of your purchasing the drugs, who was about to reveal all to the cops. I'd say that would be pretty damning evidence, especially if they traced the calls back and were able to get a confession out of the dealer.

I'd like to point out that no one was ever EXCUSED FROM BEING A HABITUAL FELON OVER SEVERAL YEARS because they are a celebrity, or because they confessed publicly to their crimes before the cops could haul them into jail.

Also, you ignore Rush's own statement:

Yeah, damning but it means nothing. You have to be able to prove that the defendant indeed had drugs. i.e. testing of the substance.

Have you even read any of the news stories?

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...p-110349c.html

Rush has confessed to being a habitual drug abuser. Any fan of his saying he deserves leniency is a hypocrite.

After he died, Rush called Kurt Cobain, who was also being controlled by habitual drug use, a "total waste of a human life". I believe the same should also be applied to Rush by himself, and his listeners.

hmm, here is the exact quote.

"Kurt Cobain was, ladies and gentleman, was a worthless shred of human debris."

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/en...rush-limbaugh/

I say whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

Is anyone here suggesting that the authorities should be leniant on Limbaugh? I sure don't hear it -- all that I hear is commendation for coming clean about it and putting himself into rehab, again.

Well noone here has yet said be lenient on Rush. Course, Hannity said all us Liberals should for some mysterious reason give him a pass out of mercy or something.

Holy Crap HarmlessRabbit, where are the pills to test. You can't arrest someone for drugs on solely statements of people. It requires you to possess it. No one arrested Rush with pills in hand. He can't be charged no matter how many statements from other people you want to post.

We can both armchair prosecute as long as you want. I'll wait to see what the people who are actually in charge do.

Good enough :)

First off, do any of you people hating rush believe at all in our legal system? If you do, then you ought not convict, judge, and damn him to hell in jail before hearing the evidence and letting the facts come out in a court of law. Not this "but his maid said..." and taking that as fact BS.

Also, those who are yelling about his possible hypocrisy, stop and think about what you are saying. The liberal position usually states that drug problems are a health issue that should be dealt with and help to treat individuals with those problems recover from them, rather than prosecute them. You preach against the conservative / rush's opinion, until it happens to one of them. Then suddenly you switch and want him prosecuted. How is that any different than a conservative wanting to be lenient on rush? Who is the hyprocrite now? Rather than judging him by your beliefs and acting appropriately, you decide to suddenly attack him and call HIM the hypocrite? He hasn't asked for leniency, he hasn't said "dont prosecute me because im rush!". No. He declared that he messed up and that he should, and will, be held accountable, and that he is no hero. Again, where are his lies and hyprocrisy?

It's not liberal hypocracy. I believe that our drug laws are horribly out of whack. They should be changed and what he did should be treated as an illness rather than as a criminal violation. But as it is, I want equal treatment under the law, especially for someone who whole heartedly has been fighting for criminal prosecution of such a sickness.

We do not have to explain and justify liberal principles as they apply to Rush Limbaugh.

Perhaps (But not likely) once he has been passed through the lower intestines of the Penal system, he will change his views and champion a change in our drug laws.

Actually Rush's stance on legalizing drugs has always been they are too dangerous and hurt to many people (not just the user) to be legal. I don't see this making Rush change his stance, if anything he proved it.

Jesus christ, are you completely brainwashed? HE ADMITTED TO BEING ADDICTED TO DRUGS. DO YOU THINK THEY DROPPED OUT OF THE SKY AND PUT THEMSELVES IN HIS BLOODSTREAM? CONVICTED OR NOT, HE COMMITTED SEVERAL FELONY-LEVEL CRIMES. READ HIS STATEMENT IN THE ORIGINAL POST ON THIS THREAD.

Whether he is charged or not is pretty irrelevant. He has admitted to being a common criminal. He's no better than a crack addict. In fact, he's worse since he is such a hypocrite.

Yes being addicted to painkillers after surgery is just like being a crack addict, I mean who does he think he is, a Green Bay QB?

..quoting since people seem to have missed this.

Since we disagree on just about everything. I'm just pointing out that do agree on this topic. :D

I'll tell you where...
Did he come out and tell people he was a fucking pill-head freak with no self control? No! Why? Because he is a fucking hypocrite. He never would've come clean if he wasn't turned in.

Yeah he hasn't asked for leniency now, but wait till his trial. What he says now means nothing. What he does, means all the world

Jeez, this and the Michigan thread. There must be something in the water. :) :)

I stopped and thought. Here's what I came up with:

Rush Limbaugh on his TV show October 5, 1995.
<i>Too many whites are getting away with drug use. The answer is to ... find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them, and send them up the river.</i>

Remember Rush's temporary deafness? Read this story "Misuse of Pain Drug Linked to Hearing Loss"

http://www.latimes.com/features/heal...1vicodin.story

What did rush say about his deafness?

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...8/231739.shtml

This was in October 2001. What did his maid say about his drug habit?

http://www.msnbc.com/news/979355.asp?

So, at the same time Rush is pleading for sympathy about his deafness, he is creating it himself by popping pills AND denying that he is doing it.

Now, what's a hypocrite?

http://www.m-w.com

Rush Limbaugh is a BIG FAT LIAR AND A HYPOCRITE.

I rest my case. :)

I did read the thread and this is what i came up with.
He said he was addicted. He said it was a prescription. There is nothing illegal about taking a prescription pill. He didn't say that he got them illegally, he didn't admit to stealing them, he didn't admit to anything illegal. Yes, chances are that the maid's testimony is somewhat correct. I dont believe the amounts she quotes, but i do believe he did obtain some illegally. Nevertheless, you are not the jury. You have not heard the facts. You are convicting him based on your opinion, and claiming that he said it. NOWHERE in that speach did he admit to anything illegal. you infer and assume a lot that is not there. he did not admit to being a criminal...



Why not? those who persecute and prosecute him should not be asked to back up their beliefs and reasons? Why should someone be asked to explain the defense of rush, without his acusers (sp?) being required to do teh same?

Do you really? You claim people in his situation should be healed and treated, not ciminally charged. This applies to every case EXCEPT that of rush. "especially for someone who whole heartedly has been fighting for criminal prosecution of such a sickness" Again, you believe one way, but quickly changes in the order of vengeance. You only back your beliefs when they work for you rather than against you? Under any other circumstances, you would call someone who changes their beliefs and principles for one person hypocritical. Gee, doesn't that sound like what you think Mr. Limbaugh is doing. Yet vaguely similar to your own position. You would call anyone who so easily changes their stance based on popular belief spinless, gutless, and hypocritical ... until it applies to yourself.

and that quote about him popping pills, in context he is talking about drugs the doctors have prescribed to try and counter the hearing loss. He is not saying "i like pain pills". He is simply saying that they have him on a huge variety of medicine to try and aid his hearing.

Also, when has rush pleaded for sympathy because of his hearing loss? This is a big question. In that article, he hints at what we know know now, that he may be responsible for his own hearing loss. But he does not ask for any sympathy. The big claim about him being a hypocrite is that he wants sympathy and leaniency in a situation where he never gave any to others. But i ask you, when has he asked for sypmathy or leniency toward his case and toward his decisions?


Also, people are scrutinizing him because he didn't come out about it until he got caught. what a coward he must be. Well, thats the nature of the beast so to speak. The nature of an addiction is to deny and hide it as long as possible. When was the last time you have heard of someone going around admitting to their family, all their freinds, and everybody they know, and even dont know, that they are addicted to drugs and need help? This has probably never happened. If it has happened to youm then when was the last time that you knew someone who did that withOUT getting caught first? Or withOUT trying to get help and failing first? An example. Lots of us know alcoholics. Many know people who are genuinely addicted to the bottle. Now, have any alcoholics come up to you and said "im an alcoholic. I have problems and need help. I messed up, but please pray for me to get better"? If they have, chances are, that someone else caught him, found him out, and explained to him that he has a problem. You wouldn't hold that against THEM would you? no, but since Rush is popular and you disagree with many of his ideas, you suddenly hold him to an unrealistically high standard.


As for the quote from 1995, i do not know all the facts. Had he had his back surgery then? I didn't find a date from a quick google, but i am curoius if he had had his operation yet. i am not positive, but i believe he was still heavily overweight, and unoperated at that time. In which case, it is kind of irrelavent as it doesn't apply to his beliefs or state of mind while he was taking teh pills.

Did you even read what I posted? His hearing was damaged BY HIS PILL POPPING AND AT THE SAME TIME HE WAS SAYING THAT HE HAD NOT POPPED PILLS BEFORE.

When he said that he was holding back some of his statements on advice of his lawyers. As a felony drug abuser, he should turn himself in right now and plead guilty to any crimes he is charged.

Rush is the one saying drug abusers should go to jail. Not me. Rush. I didn't see where he was offering sympathy to addicts.

He's also quite the golfer for someone with crippling back pain:

http://www.golfserv.com/gdc/news/article.asp?id=15650

Show me where he changed his mind of softened his position. So you're saying after he started popping pills he changed his mind and thought "hey, buying thousands of illegal pills and committing felonies in a denny's parking lot is actually ok." Am I following you here? And the fact that he supposedly did so, even though there is no evidence to show that he ever changed his mind, somehow vindicates him, since instead of being a hypocrite he is now a drug addict who thinks drugs are great?

After he died? How about after he killed himself? There's a difference.

Yeah killed himself because of the intense torture his life was because of his addiction to drugs.

And he still led 10 x more of a positive life than Rush did because he left behind good music and insipiration... and Rush left... well, Hate.

Rush broke the law. Repeatedly. And while he repeatedly broke the law he advocated for the deportation or for the incarceration of others who did the same. He was meriless in his tirades against others with addictions but will hope that he receives mercy himself. He is contemptible for his hypocrisy.

It took no courage for Rush to admit his addiction after he was caught dead to rights in his drug abuse.

As far as Rush's lies: Al Franken's books have accounted for more than a few whoppers from Rush, who is largely unconcerned with factual reporting. Also, you might check out http://www.fair.org/media-outlets/limbaugh.html

Too Rich:

oops, nm

Well I guess it's all a matter of perspective. Cobain took the easy way out, period. Not exactly someone that should be looked up to in my book.

You may think Rush spouts nothing but hate, millions of others think he doesn't. Personally I think he's a bit pompous, selective in his arguments, and his stances are usually out of place in real world action. But, he has certainly generated a hell of a lot of interest in politics and has communicated a variety of interesting perspectives on different topics.

I would certainly have more respect for the liberal position of treating drug users as having an illness if they would apply that rule to all equally.

As far as Rush and his pain killer addiction, it won't hurt him much. And not because his fans are so loyal. It's because addiction to drugs is looked at as more of a temporary set back in our society. If the person returns to a fully functional status at some point (and in some cases even if they don't) they aren't looked at as "the addict" anymore. Actors, actresses, politicians, businessmen, and a whole range of citizens have stumbled and then gotten up. People are generally very forgiving.

So he was pleading for sympathy by saying that authorities have asked him to limit his comments? Sounds to me like he was doing the right thing and working with police / attorneys. Personally, i dont see how limiting his comments could possibly be taken as aa plea for sympathy at ALL. Also, by your logic that because he did something illegal, he shouldn't have a chance to defend himself, you ought to go into your local police station and ask for several tickets, and fines for your actions while in your car. You ought to ask for a fine for every time you have gone above the speed limit, you ough to go ask for a fine for Exhibition of Accelleration (pretty much any time you try and accel faster than someone they COULD nail you for this.). There is no reason that Rush, or anyone else for that matter, should NOT put up a fight in their defense.


I dont know if he has softened his position at all since he has been addicted. Thats why i asked. Thats what the "?" means. There is no reason that he shouldn't be allowed to change his position on drugs and drug addicts once he can sympathize with them and learns more about it. As long as he applies it equally and stands behind it, there is nothing hypocritical. I was simply asking if that quote applied to his current stance on the issue.


You are talking about two completely different sets of pills. The pain pills very well may have caused his hearing difficulties. But in the quote that YOU supplied, he said he has "never done stuff like this before" The "this" is refering to the large regimen of hearing pills, syringes, and other thereapies, NOT the pain pills. And what he said wasn't hypocritical. I'm sure he never has been on that many varietys of treatments, as frequently, and with a poor expectancy of good results before. You are using "pills" interchangebly for the basis of your argument, without looking at the word in context. Lets use a real life example. You take aspirine "pills" every day because you hear its good for your heart. Now you have a serious health complication and are stuck on 4 different types of medication, some oral, some injected, etc. Would it be fair to say that you have "never done stuff like that before"? Sure, Even though you WERE taking pills on a daily basis before, you have dont nothing near the amount you are doing now. But if we replace Rush with "you", and change one type of pain pill for another, suddenly he is lying and cant tell the truth. This doesn't seem quite right to me..



Precisely! you dont really have much of a position or a real belief if you decide to pick and choose who it applies to and who it doesn't.

What is there not to have respect for in the liberal position?

We want the laws changed, but as it is we want equal treatment under the law. He shouldn't be getting a pass while there are millions rotting away in jail for the same weakness. This is entirely in line with the "liberal position."

I remember this bastard even making fun of Tommy Chong only one month ago on his show for getting caught selling bongs.

http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/...604_mattrn.htm
Is this a cue from President Bush that Prosecutors aren't going to be so hard on the "great American" Rush Limbaugh? Perhaps he'll get off scott free like Kenny Boy Lay?

Who knows... I just hope this ends that Anti-American Pig boy's bigotted career for good. But then again right-wingers seem to love criminal talk show hosts and even have a bigger place in their heart for traitors.

I'm still curious, what exactly would you charge Rush with?

Perhaps being a republican with a strong opinion and a large fan-base.

Cool, so in this fantasy world where I am charging people with crimes -can I charge him with hypocrisy, lying, or just promoting stupidity? Perhaps I could charge him with subverting conservative values so that they become completely unpalatable for anyone who is able to think beyond name calling and scandal mongering. If fallacy were illegal, I should charge him with creating a false dichotomy between Liberal beliefs and everything else. (Because you see, Liberals are the ones who blew up the WTC -and if they didn't then they are somehow responsible.)

Rush led the way for conservative talk shows. He invented how it is done. Here are some of the tactics:

First, act like you're reporting the news but only find stories that support your political agenda. If someone shoots a burglar, celebrate the story as an example of why we need more handguns. It might be a good idea to follow it with some canned applause. Be sure to ignore the 10 children that are accidentally shot that day.

Second, if you get cornered rephrase your argument, then change it to something your opponent agrees with and claim victory on your original point. ...

Third, be incredibly gullible when it comes to believing bad things about your enemy and good things about yourself. According to Russ and Dee, Palestinians don't love their children, they only love murderers and terrorists. The Koran overtly advocates violence but the Bible would never do anything like that. Be sure to keep it simple, 100% good vs. 100% bad.

Forth, if a caller is making a sophisticated point that you don't agree with catch him on a technicality, like a mispronounced word, then declare his whole argument wrong. Sound bites are much better than complicated explanations on temporal media like talk radio.

Fifth, let your callers lie for you. Be sure to object to an occasional wild accusation to maintain some credibility.

Sixth, compare your opponent to Hitler. ... Bet you didn't know that Hitler was a "liberal" and the Nazis were politically correct.

Seventh, if you bring on guests to debate find the dumbest burned out hippy to represent the Left.

Finally, if all else fails go to a commercial.

(from the "Liberal" http://www.birminghamfreepress.com/Features/Media.html.)


But wait, you wanted a real crime that Rush can go to jail for? How about Criminal Conspiracy to possess drugs Title 21 US 846. Yes, that will do nicely.

More correctly a LOUD, STUPID republican with an arrogant IGNORANT fan-base.

They're probably all judgemental too.

Perhaps, but it does make me wonder if there was an intelligent right wing talk show host -if he would have any listeners.

Mmmm I'm a part of his 'fan base'. I also hold a M.S., a doctorate and I am a member of MENSA. I'm willing to bet my knowledge of my non-specialty subjects like history and how it relates to politics is far superior to yours. I state this not because I wish to brag, bragging on the internet is almost as pointless as arguing. I state this because the LOUD, STUPID, and IGNORANT ones seem to be people who never really listened to his show, and only get their opinions on it based on what trickles down through biased news sources who wish people like Rush, Drudge, and the like would go away. You may not agree with him on any subjects and thats fine, everyone is entitled to be wrong, but try to have caution characterizing a fan base you really known nothing of.

Cheers

Any opinion you want me to have about you bein "superior" an' all is now completely marginalized by your admission to being a Rush Limbaugh fan.

Rather than trade insults... I'll just leave it at that. 'Nuff said.

As opposed to the well informed and truthful Micheal Moore and his fans?:lol:

I'm glad you made the comparison. Sure, Limbaugh is comparible to Moore with one important caveat -Moore is funny... Limbaugh is just 'plane stoopid'.

Moore is also a documented liar. Try to find the same type of documentation on what Rush has said. The 'best' you will find are out of context quotes, which without supporting material make him look bad.

This is almost too asinine to even reply to. Have you heard of google? It's a kind of "search engine" that you can search for information that other people have "posted" on the "internet".



http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=limbaugh+lies

The same thing could also be said about a left wing talk show host. I wonder if he would have any listeners. Apparently they dont have enough to keep their program running...

Also, have you actually spent any real amount of time listening to Rush? You seem pretty clueless as to what actually goes on in his show.

Also, to those who wish to "charge" rush with hypocrisy, i've yet to see a single quote of him actually asking for leniency in his case.

I don't think it's so much a matter of him asking for leniency as it is a matter of him for many years publicly lambasting drug users while he himself was tossing back pills.

I don't listen to his program regularly so I'm willing to concede that I may very well have missed the numerous occassions he may have stated that he had deep sympathy for those poor souls who were forced by their addiction to order their maids to illegally obtain their highly addictive pain medication.

The fact to the man spouts off about drug users and then get caught as a drug user himself is enough to call him a hypocrite IMO.

Actualy I've never heard Rush ignore a national story as it relates to a current event.

Nope, that sounds more like Bill Clinton debate school though.

No clue who Russ and Dee are, but again, not Rush.

Nope again not on Rush.

Again I'm not sure who you listened to but it was never Rush.

Only people I know who like to call people nazi's are liberals. Again, not Rush. About the only time I hear Hitler's name evoked by a conservative is when they point out Hitler's and Stalin's use of gun control laws.

Rush almost never has guests, out side of the VP once and a few authors, so this isn't Rush again. While this is a technique long perfected by 20/20, and I'm sure some low rated local conservative show might do the same, I've never seen it on any national shows.

I'm willing to bet Astro you never listened to Rush, ever.

So this is how the cancer spreads...

Actually I watched that dumbass when he had a television show. It came on around 11:00 in Phx right after "Morton Downey Jr". Of course this was between 14 and 15 years ago. Yes, that fat blob-boy had guests. He also had callers. I also listened to him about 4 years ago when Hippy Rush appeared to protest against the Kosova war. Perhaps it was then that he developed his drug habit... He thought he'd tune in, turn on and drop out. (As if that blowhard has any fucking clue about anything).

On reading your reply -if you looked at the cited news source and the CONTEXT of what I wrote before (for which you graciously issued a point by point denial.) -You will realize that I was in fact quoting a source for the talk show style which Rush invented. The entire article was given by the link at the bottom. Perhaps I wasn't clear that I was arguing against a certain style not unique to that ignorant blob-boy. Did you miss the article? Here I'll give it again -the Birmingham Free Press article http://www.birminghamfreepress.com/Features/Media.html Sorry for not being clear... too bad you wasted your time debating against something that wasn't clear.

The fact of the matter is -seeing that you chose to take something out of context and then argue against it -is that you are using a style of argumentation very similar to that of Rush Limbaugh's. I see he's rubbing off on you. Instead of 'hmming and hawing' at someone else; (because they don't listen to that blowhard idiot as much as you) -perhaps you should listen to Rush Limbaugh and his ilk LESS.

No, really. Consider this -all of you Rush Limbaugh fans -instead of trying to proselytize others and get them to listen to Rush Limbaugh; perhaps you should just listen less. Do something else. Masturbation, for example is much more productive -try that.

Thankfully that guy is off the air for now. His pill popping did him in. My only regret is that it didn't REALLY do him in. I'm truly sad that he didn't overdose because this way he might come back on the air. <shudder>

Page two of this thread is seriously not worth reading. Please, enough of this childish nonsense.

Yep, I agree. When people start playing the MENSA card, it's time to move on. :)

NEXT.

I'll just correct this one:

Femi-Nazi.

Thirty day rehab's work one in six times.

Limbaugh waited until the last possible moment on a Friday to 'out' himself.

It's a standard legal tactic; the 30 days to cool the media, the limited mea culpa to show remorse. If he is doing this because his legal team is pushing for it he's probably going to fail.

Now, $40 million per annum is a bunch o money and Limbaugh will be able to lay his hands on any script drugs he wants when he gets out. We'll see if hubris and ego will dominate survival.

2Wolves

This is why I visit "Tilted Politics" - - so I can read 2Wolves' posts.

My money is on hubris and ego.

Ha Ha Ha, Rush is in Tears

All these years of calling enviromentalists and everyone else a "crybaby" and here he is... who's crying now, MORON?

http://a799.g.akamai.net/3/799/388/2...ws/2039212.jpg

Here is a new fun Rush lie that we can now use to show he is someone that noone should ever listen to.

Rush has said since he lost his hearing, that his hearing loss was due to Auto-Immune Inner Ear Disease "according to doctors at the ear clinic" that fitted him with his cochlear implant.

We now know that the habitual use of Vicodin is what did him in for the hearing loss, so for what, 2 years he lied to his listeners about his hearing loss? What else did he lie and manipulate about to everyone to further his own agenda?

And I want to know why he didn't mention in his "I'm a victim" speech, that he enjoyed getting fucked up off these drugs. Because I have known people who took OxyCotin for back pain and even though they upped their doses over time, they never got anywhere near 30 pills a day. The most I have heard is 100mg every 8 hours. Taking 30 pills was for one reason, to get high.

He should be getting 20 years for this. He had enough drugs on him to qualify himself as a dealer, that constitutes much stiffer fines than just buying as a user.

How often do you see rush as a patient, and where did you get your medical degree? We know vicadin CAN cause hearing loss, but you have absolutely NO authority to make a judgement as to what the real cause of his hearing difficulties are. You are just a keyboard nobody who is angry with a man's personal beliefs.

But its good to know you are around, and such a damned good doctor that you can properly diagnose the problem AND its cause without ever attending med school OR seeing the patient. I bow down to you master medical man ... :rolleyes:

Where is the FCC in all of this?

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/antidrug.html

More than enough to get his license pulled.

2Wolves

There are two possible causes of his deafness.

__________
1. The drug caused his deafness.
-The drug can cause deafness. The chances rise exorbitantly under extreme illicit abuse of the drug.
-Rush was abusing this drug to such a dangerous degree.
-Rush had been in the middle of his drug haze when he told his listeners about his deafness.

__________
2. Ear disease.
-Getting it is like winning the lottery
-It just so happened to coincide with his extreme use of hearing damaging drugs.

Occam's Razor.
(google it if you don't know)

But you can go on believing him if you want. We're all just 'keyboard nobodies'.

From the onion:
http://www.theonion.com/3941/
I think this whole situation just reaffirms my belief in some sort of karma.

do you have any idea what the onion is filterton...uggghhh

I hadn't heard of oxycontin/oxy cotton before Rush came clean. Thank ya mass media!

sickening - the hatred liberals feel towards a conservative talk show host. Bear in mind we live in a free country, Rush never made any bones about what his show was and what he meant it to be. But because he wasn't liberal, you thrive off of him admitting addiction to a pain killer. You're hatred for a different philosophical opinion in a democratic society supercedes that for some third world fucked up bunch of freaks that will kill upwards of 3000 of us and threaten the society we live in. Be honest with yourselves - everything you've said points to one thing, if you had your way - you'd rather see rush limbaugh stoned to death than Osama Bin Laden put in jail.

MY big problem with Rush has always been his saying " I am just an entertainer". He and Moore use this as a means to spread lies, half lies and mistruths. Either you are a pundit, or you are an entertainer. Pick one, and dont use the "E Card" when called on a lie. So if he is Just an Entertainer, why should anyone listen to him, and say not Ruth Buzzy. He is clearly a pundit. And he, like Moore, hide behind that excuse, and to me, neither have any crediblity.

Actually, it wasn't the fact that he wasn't liberal, it was the fact that he is a big fat arrogant white man who said on his show that drug abusers should go to jail AT THE SAME TIME that he was popping pills like no tomorrow. And the fact that he was committing felonies while picking up a few more vicodin in the denny's parking lot after a big stack of pancakes.

Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot. Al Franken said it years ago, now we have proof. It's fun to say "See, I told you so." to all his fans. I do it as much as possible these days.

Can I choose both?

:)

You reap what you sow.

2Wolves

Actually, anyone who has ever sown anything is fully aware of the fact that you also get a lot of weeds no matter what you sow.

Those who feel justified in any way shape or form in hating someone because they accuse the object of their hatred of being someone who sows hatred are no better than the object of their hatred, are they?

It would be a far better world for everyone if when we feel justified in hating someone we step back and think a moment about the implications of sowing hatred ourselves.

Statements such as the one above do not in any way justify hate.

No, tell me what the onion is, besides damn funny.

What's sickening is how you seem to think that only liberals have a problem with rush limbaugh and his hypocrisy. I think you're kind of hysterical to claim that anyone on here would rather see rush stoned than bin laden. Why don't you just admit that rush is a hypocrite. It's allright, everyone is a hypocrite. Not everyone tells national radio audiences that drug abusers should be locked up all the while abusing drugs themselves, but everyone is hypcritical in atleast some small way.

Honestly, i hope he gets his shit together, because i know many people whose lives are really fucked right now because of drug abuse- it is not something to be trifled with. I still have no problem calling him out(like he actually cares) on his lack of compassion for people who he, of all people, should have been able to relate and empathise with.

Rush would rather be stoned... hahahaha

http://home.comcast.net/~astrocloud/pigboy-beatnik.gif

Would you feel more comfortable calling it karma?

2Wolves

Let's be as clear as possible here, since we're discussing one of the most vile emotions humans are capable of. If the implication is that Rush preaches messages of hate, that would be unsupportable. He may broadcast messages and ideas you hate, but that's a different thing, entirely.

I believe there are a very few figures in human history that have actually and literally broadcast hate messages - and it should be clear to a discerning mind that Rush is not in that category.

So, why engage in or even entertain such a hyperbolic form of discourse? Why ramp up the rhetoric to the point where someone who is rather mild on the scale of vitriolic sentiment is accused of hate speech? I just don't think see how we get anywhere with that sort of exaggeration.

Probably what is being expressed is something closer to the fact that people who are on the other side of the polarities of political expression from him hate his ideas. And they make the common logical fallacy of arguing ad hominem (The person presenting an argument is attacked instead of the argument itself).

When we persistently pursue tactics like this - we end up with many of the types of problematic exchanges we see on this Forum.

I respectfully disagree. When Rush, for example, called Chelsea Clinton, the innocent daughter of Bill and Hillary, a dog, how could that not be broadcasting a hate message?

Here is what he said:

Here a few other gems from Limbaugh:

http://www.fair.org/press-releases/l...s-reality.html

Here is an interesting article on Limbaugh and compassion:

http://www.motherjones.com/mother_jones/MJ95/ivins.html
Rush has made a career out of preaching hate. Many of his fans learn from him how to act like abusive bullies. Is he worse than, say, Pol Pot? Of course not. But the net effect of his show is that he spread hatred, bigotry, and sows the seeds of ill will throughout the world. All of this while being, himself, one of the people he purports to despise. I'm sure a good psychologist could explain all this to me.

Rush Limbaugh spread a message of hate every day on his show. Perhaps you didn't see it that way, but that was my perception. So, for me, Rush increased the hate in the world. As the Tao says, pushing the pendulum to one side just makes a stronger reaction on the other side, so Rush made the world worse for all of us.