Bill O'Reilly: "Canada may deserve a cold US shoulder"
 

LINKY

Re: Bill O'Reilly: "Canada may deserve a cold US shoulder"
 

Who does he think he is, God or something? What a Moron!

1) Canada is right about the Iraqi people. If they were to go to Canada (highly unlikely), they should not be handed over to the US. Why would they be? Did they commit crimes in the US? Nope. They should be handed over to either a UN tribunal, or to the Iraqi people. I prefer the latter, 'cause they'd have the death penalty.

2) US people mock the Canadians all the time, so grow up.

3) I don't know who Bill O'Reilly is, but he sounds like a complete arse.

If i'm not mistaken, this is the Bill O'Reilly who writes a column in Sports Illustrated every month. I don't know who put him in charge of US foreign policy?? I'm with you Dragonlinch, the US is not the international court of war crimes, no matter how badly they wish they were.

Bill O'Reilly is mad at Canada eh? Good, now I know Canada has chosen the right path. The man is a moron.

actually that's Rick Reilly who writes for SI. Bill O'Reilly is a former tabloid reporter and current FoxNews commentator. Both men are morons, so I can understand the confusion.

you guys are too soft. if there are war criminals in other countries they should be handed over to the US. what right does the UN have to do anything???? they didn't do shit to stop the problem, and now they think they should control the outcome.

back to this whole canada issue. i don't mean to offend any US-friendly, canadian tfpers by saying this. The main reason canadian and other countries' politicians are mad at the US is because their pride is hurt knowing we have more power than they do. They talk alot of shit because that is all they can do. They could care less between doing right and wrong just as long as they are the ones with the power to make that decision. As soon as someone else tells them what to do they are automatically against it.

Chretien is being French Canadian, emphasis on the French part.

I may have to re-evaluate my dislike for him down another notch or two.

TaLoN... the US is *not* the sole arbitrator of right and wrong in the world. We've got UN courts for that precise purpose.

If the US were to convict and execute the likes of Saddam, there's a good chance he'll be seen as a martyr by many extremist Muslims. If the UN convicts him, the whole thing will have more credibility, even with these morons. Now, if Iraq were to convict these bastards themselves... that'd be perfect.

o'reilly's job is to piss people off, it gets more people to watch his show. half the time i agree with him, the other half i don't.

but booing a national anthem is DISGRACEFUL, not matter where you come from.

if this is true, then the pm needs to think things through.
but i think that this is not entirely true.

He is one of the smartest men on the planet and I agree with him about 95% of the time. Now included. :D

He's had a couple of #1 best selling books and his show on Fox News does great too. You either love him or hate him.

This guy reasons like an eight year old. Does anybody take him as serious?

*sigh*

As I said in the old TFP, comparing French-Canadians to the French is like comparing Americans to the British. Just because we were colonised by them doesn't mean we are like them. I am French-Canadian and I disagree with France's posturing almost as adamantly as some Americans do.

Also, while it is true that Canada relies heavily on US money, I doubt that any sort of boycott would last long enough to have any serious impact on our economy, due to the sheer volume of goods and services that pass from one country to the other.

but in this case the US has been making the right decisions. Other people of the world are disagreeing with us because like i said before, they don't like being bossed around. The UN is a POS because it is made up mostly by these whiny countries that are too weak on their own. just be glad im not president and that those countries still exist.

i would disagree if the government decided to execute saddam and i don't think they would because of what you said above.

His tv show ratings are obcene. His book "The No Spin Zone" also has obcene sales. He has tons of fans, most conservatives love him, most liberals think he's a moron.

LOL
funny how people see things. Some see him as smart, others see him as a moron.

Both sides have been booing each other’s anthem for years especially during the playoffs. I wouldn't do it because it shows lack of respect. But to get all upset over it is a wee bit childish IMO.

oooh! I'm trembling in my mukluks.

Wonder how fast we could conquer Canada? Won't happen but it's fun to think.

we could turn all of BC into one big park! not that it isn't close to that now, but we could fix the parking.

What would we do with the rest of Canada?

YES!! The anger is back! The new TFP seemed a bit subdued.

Exactly. I can't believe some people actually take him seriously ..

what the heck? everyone that disagrees w/ US foreign policy deserves punishment?

HAH! You wear those!? :eek:

The_Dude, to answer your question. For the most part I would have to say yes. In this situation, fuck yes. I mean damn, the fucking Canadians said they would not turn in Saddam or any of his henchmen to the US if they wound up in Canaduh. I don't know about you, but I sure as hell don't want those fuckers that close to the US. Do you not see anything wrong with that?

well, that's their foreign policy.

we may object to it, the same way they object to our foreign policy.

I'd bet in the Canadians were ever looking for a fucking mad man that wanted all Canadins dead and we found them hiding in America we would turn them over.

canadians and americans are very different.


canada is a very peaceful country that does not allow nukes to be present.

it's highly unlikely for them to join a pre-emptive strike.

and it's highly likely of them to provide asylum.

Just like they harbored US draft dodgers during the vietnam war.

They are peaceful because they have the biggest badass nation that ever walked the earth to their south.
Which means Canada does not really have to worry about defending themselves now do they?

Great point reconmike. That's exactly what I would have said. The funny thing is if anyone ever attacked Canaduh we would strike back before they did cause there's no way in hell we'd let someone try to take over a country that close to us.

cut down all the trees for lumber, break up the ice for ice cubes, then use the women like lab rats to test the limits of shaving razors.

You're not allowed to boycott a nations goods because you hate them? We have that freedom in America, if you can organize a widescale boycott like we did against France then you can really strike back at the people who hurt you. I think it's more appealing then booing someones national anthem and taunting their children.

I agree with that statement. Some of the stuff he spouts is very disturbing. I can't believe that FOX News claims the slogans “Fair and Balanced” or “We Report." There isn't anything balanced about their coverage.

Did you read that he came out against Pony shoes? They hired Jenna Jameson to appear in shoe commercials. O’Reilly complained that Pony was “hoping that hard core sex will lead to the purchase of sneakers.” Funny, he must not watch the programming on Fox.

hold up..........so every time a nation pisses of another nation w/ it's foreign policy, a trade sanction is next?

Fun is fun but lets remember that a large number of our members are from Canada and lets not be insulting fellow members.
Keep the forum warning in mind.

Bill O'Reilly may deserve a tequila enema. (Course, then they'd need a microscope to be able to film what was left.)

I'd provide a link to the "National Organization to Shoot Bill O'Reilly into the Sun" but the site has gone defunct. No doubt spun out of existance.

he's too far damn right wing

Ha, Go aghead, boycott our oil, our natural gas, our lumber.

You will be paying 6 bucks a gallon!!!!

Conquer us, maybe, but you wouldn't be able to hang on to us. You are going to have your hands full with Iraq and Afghanistan for the next 10 years. By the end of this you are all probably going to wish you had never bothered. It's going to cost you billions your sagging economy doesn't have, and prove to be an albatrose around your necks.

As far as that goes, the world opinion is still very much against the USA. Canada didn't support the US, neither did Mexico, neither did ANY other country in the Central or Southern America except Chile I believe. But next to Israel and Egypt, they draw the most foreign aid from the US, so their support is somewhat questionable.

China, Russia, France, Germany, they didn't support you either.

But you did have Slovenia on your side.

And by the way, i went to the Leafs (sob) game game against the Minnesota Wild (dumb name) and the US national anthem received a standing ovation. So there.

I love Americans, I just hate your war hawk gov't and George Bush IS a moron.

Hell on September 11, when planes were being diverted into Toronto because US airspace was closed, i called up an emergency number and offered to billet any stranded travelers in my home for free. As it turned out, there was no need, but the offer was made.

In several Canadian cities, thousands of Americans were taken in for 3 or 4 days while the Sept 11 problem was sorted out.

And there was that time in Iran when your people were held hostage for 444 days by a bunch of madmen, and Ken Taylor and the Canadian embassy staff took in several Americans who managed to escape and hid them there in the Canadian embassy, eventually smuggling them out on a Canadian military transport at risk to their own lives. And that was after the Americans had visited 2 other foreign embassies and were told that they could not stay.

Oh how quickly they forget.

Just for the record, the whole make-BC-a-park-thing was just a joke. Sorry if I offended.

For reparations, you can have Texas...

Contrary to popular belief, not *everyone* in the world disagrees with the US in this case. I support the attack on Iraq, as does my government. Your whole argument about people hating you for bossing them around is bullshit, it's just not that simple, okay?

I am indeed glad you are not President, because you sound a bit too uninformed to survive daily international politics.

As I said before: Saddam should be handed over to the UN war crimes tribunal in the Hague (similar to Milosovic), or to Iraq.

Oh, and Canada did *not* say they would let Saddam and friends just stay there if they came. They would send them over to the UN court. What is wrong with that??? He would be given (at least) a life sentence there, convicted by the entire world, instead of *one* country that defeated him in combat. At least the UN court would be seen as impartial.

there is no such thing as being "informed" of politics. the working definition of politics is manipulating information to get people to do what you want them to do. When dealing with politics you should use your instincts and stop listening to the monkeys in charge. Everyone has a hidden agenda... plans within plans.

I'm a canadian and american citizen, i hear anti-canadian comments all the time. a lot of the american comments about canada are just absurd

any1 see the south park movie? probably every american who saw it, saw it as dissing canada.

But it was actually about how arrogant the U.S. is..

i'm telling u, bush is criticizing every country that disagrees w/ US foreign policy (which is f**** in the first place)

hey!

I think the reason Bush cancelled his trip here to Ottawa was in part due to the fact our government didn't support the War on Iraq.Probably a better reason is because members of our government called Bush a moron,a failed statesman and a bastard while our prime minister didn't offer any apologies,making it seem like he agreed.I just hope when I take my yearly holiday in New Hampshire this summer you guys down there don't drown me in the ocean because of stupid remarks made by stupid people.

<I>"In response, Bush has canceled a trip next month to Ottawa, and it would be wise not to send him an autographed picture of the Montreal Canadiens hockey team. That's because Montreal fans recently booed the national anthem before a game with the Islanders."</I>

The Montreal fans booed the American anthem during an Islanders game, and that was disgraceful. But Jesus Christ. Let's completely forget that it was the Islanders fans who <b>started</b> this anthem booing trend during last year's playoffs. Americans are just as guilty as we are.

Come on now, Bill O’Reilly is a professional reporter and FOX is "fair and balanced", it must have been an oversight not to mention the Islander fans. Yep, that's good quality journalism, pick what you want to report and never report the actual story.:rolleyes:

I have no respect for Bill O'Reilly and what he says. I've listened to him on the Fox Radio Network and I found it quite scary the way he thinks and his radical uninformed views. He's full of charisma, and he makes one hell of a radio show, but the content is more springer-like than news-like.

I support the removal of Saddam Hussein. I do however wish that a UN solution could have been found.

I do not like George Bush. Although he has the USA's interests in mind with his war on Iraq I think the way he goes about it is wrong. I also think its wrong that Canada has taken a huge hit due to us not supporting publicly the war. Even though we are the third largest contributor to this war after Britain and US itself.

We sent 2000 troops to Afghanistan to relieve troops that were then sent to Iraq. We sent two warships to the gulf to help protect your carriers. We also have troops on exchange programs on the ground in Iraq as well as in command in control in Qatar. Canadians are also in AWACS helping guide bombs in.

Our prime minister is a moron. As is any of the other politicians who have made stupid senseless immature comments. Hopefully other Canadians will see this and the conservatives will be back in power next year. They will quickly try to repair any damage that the liberals have done.

I'm frankly glad that the president has cancelled his trip to Canada because the NDP was planning on heckling him when he addressed the parliament.

Canada supports the US. approx 55% or so (can't remember the exact number) of Canadians were against the US attacking Iraq but 70% of Canadians supported the US once it had. Meaning, 70% of Canadians although they would have preffered a Peaceful or UN solution still felt that Canada should have supported our freind and ally once the fighting began. Although we havnt said that, we have certainly done that.

Bill O'Reilly is doing what he does best, he is stirring up the uninformed sheep that are his faithfull listeners and making money with his ratings doing so. I listened to his show on Canada that sparked this article about a week ago for over an hour and the intelliegence level of his average caller was quite low.

Sorry to rant and to maybe not make sense at times, but I am getting tired of the anti-Canadian rhetoric.


Daval - A Proud Canadian and Supporter of the US.

A lot of what has gone on between the US and Canada because of the war in Iraq is unfortunate. While we all have our difference we also have similarities and in this instance there are far more similarities than differences. The US and Canada are far more connected than just sharing the longest undefended border in the world. We are interdependent on many things. While there have been differences at times common interests outweigh those differences when either of us is threatened - for example look at the coopereation that is going on at this instant regarding SARS! We should all learn from this recent disagreement - Sometimes our elected leaders - even though they speak for us, do not say exactly what we would like to hear.

US seems to take canada for granted in many ways

The reverse is also true.

The US has a right to believe what it wishes regarding anything. Just as any other country has to right to do what it wishes, or believe what is wishes as long as it does not infringe on the rights of the people in or outside that country.

How can anyone say that a country doesn't have a right to a contrary opinion? We as US citizens for the most part, as well as our government, for the most part, believe that a war on terror must be pursued. So do most nations, but attacking Iraq acomplished little in this single campaign, no weapons, no terrorists, nothing.

Saddam (or most senior members of his regime) has (or have) comitted no crimes to the US, but he has violated international law. As such he should be the ICC in the Hauge. We are the ones who are uncooperative and disagree with most of the world, not the other way around.

Up here in Canada, we have a TV station called the CBC. It's a government funded station *kinda* like PBS........only it's popular. They have a show called This Hour Has 22 Minutes. Essentially, it lives by the rule of thumb that if you can't laugh about the serious things in life, they're not that serious. Every now and then, ya just need to sit back, relax, and enjoy the life you've been given. I'm not posting this as a flame starter; it's just a rather humorous take on everything.........a side note if you will. That, and it's good for a laugh for everyone.

Courtesy of Rick Mercer from This Hour Has 22 Minutes CBC Television:

On behalf of Canadians everywhere I'd like to offer an apology to the United States of America. We haven't been getting along very well recently and for that, I am truly sorry.

I'm sorry we called George Bush a moron.

He is a moron but, it wasn't nice of us to point it out. If it's any consolation, the fact that he's a moron shouldn't reflect poorly on the people of America. After all it's not like you actually elected him.

I'm sorry about our softwood lumber. Just because we have more trees than you doesn't give us the right to sell you lumber that's cheaper and better than your own.

I'm sorry we beat you in Olympic hockey. In our defense I guess our excuse would be that our team was much, much, much, much better than yours.

I'm sorry we burnt down your white house during the war of 1812. I notice you've rebuilt it! ...It's Very Nice.

I'm sorry about your beer. I know we had nothing to do with your beer but, we Feel your Pain.

I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean, when you're going up against a crazed dictator, you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than two years before you guys pitched in against Hitler, but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons.

And finally on behalf of all Canadians, I'm sorry that we're constantly apologizing for things in a passive-aggressive way which is really a thinly veiled criticism. I sincerely hope that you're not upset over this. We've seen what you do to countries you get upset with.

Thank you.

jawohl, meine feuhrer! der SS marcshiert in feindesland!

I myself am canadian, and I do not condone the war in iraq. think of it logically, there is virtually no way to remove an entire dictatorship with one bullet because another person with the same beliefs would step up and fill the gap. the only solution was war. I am also ashamed of these goddamned uneducated anti-war hippies I find myself surrounded with. If they could honestly make one valid, true point, then i would treat them with more than a doctor marten dental plan.

Not only did the war remove the opression of a people, it set an example, it said: "you fuck with us, you help anyone fuck with us, and we'll fuck you up, y'understand?". I personally see that as a good approach to terrorism, and is one of the easiest ways to get your point across.

However, noone likes being bossed around, and trust me, its not fun being a minority. you come up here, well put you in a situation where YOU are the minority, and its not fun being bossed around. you can stand as straight and tall as you want, be proud as you want, but people sitll dont care, because noone knows a thing. The UN is respectable exactly because of that, stupid. because it involves more than one single-minded superpower, it can be counted upon when it comes time to sentence people to whatever.

If this is the best canada has to offer the world than this must be one funny ass tv program.