seretogis

I fail to see any intersection between the libertarian and socialist idiologies.

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Charlatan

seretogis - a couple of the questions on that survey/test were a bit problematic...



Government should not control radio, TV, the press or the Internet. - this does not allow for degrees. No the government shouldn't control the press or the Internet BUT they should control the licenses that allow free enterprise to use our (i.e. public airwaves)

Drug laws do more harm than good. Repeal them. - which drug laws? "Illicit" drugs such as marijana and heroin or "legal" drugs such as viagra and penicillin? There is a very big difference.


I just like to be clear in my approach to things is all...

I didn't take the test but would probably fall into the Left-Liberal definition in most ways...

Left-Liberals prefer self-government in personal matters and central decision-making on economics. They want government to serve the disadvantaged in the name of fairness. Leftists tolerate social diversity, but work for economic equality.

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Peetster

Libertarian
Libertarians are self-governors in both personal and economic matters. They believe government's only purpose is to protect people from coercion and violence. They value individual responsibility, and tolerate economic and social diversity.

I tend to vote for the more conservative candidate.

tisonlyi

Left-Liberal and proud.

Civilised. Not indoctrinated.

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tisonlyi

Charlatan: As trade barriers come down and technology provides for ever more channels through the same or similar media, no single government can control the access to airwaves.

Control in that old way is dead, it's no longer practical, I think what they meant in the quiz is censorship.

Myself, I believe that every liberal democracy is in need of is an equal representation rule.

For every murder report, there should be equal weight given to a birth.. For every columbine a piece on the setting up of a new system of education in underprivelidged neighborhoods or whatever.

I'm sick and disgusting of being told how scarey the world is, when in reality it is nothing of the sort.

Just the other day a lady in her twenties was on British radio, as part of a discussion on the 12 year old girl who went off on a jaunt with a 31 year old US Marine, telling all who would listen that life is much more dangerous now than it was 20 years ago. She certainly couldn't let her kids out on the streets unsupervised.

This is Hobbiton, and I am Bilbo tis'. (c) William Hicks Inc.

FEAR, DEATH, DESTRUCTION, RECESSION, POISON, MURDER, MOLESTATION, LIES, DECEITE, CORRUPTION, FAMINE, WAR, PESTILENCE, ARMAGGEDON...

Turn on CNN.

Is it any wonder people actually believe that all of their neighbours are axe murderers?

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"I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place." - Winston Churchill, 1937 --{ORLY?}--

Charlatan

It's OK if they are axe murderers as long as you have walls around your house and a gun to protect yourself...

I don't agree with this. It is true that the Internet opens many corridors for broadcast that can jump traditional boarders. What I am talking about is the traditional broadcast and cable spectrum. I am a firm believer in the need for a "public" broadcaster (in fact I think the US is the only nation without a truly public broadcaster - PBS is completely unlike other nation broadcasters).

There is a need for stories, histories, news, etc to be told from a particular nation's point of view. The power and reach of US programming is quite powerful.

I am not saying it is bad or that it shouldn't be licensed by local broadcasters only that alternative programming must be made available. When it is much cheaper to license US (or other foreign made programs) than it is to producer indigenous programs I see no problem with subsidy.

That said, the broadcast spectrum is public property and should be licensed to broadcasters not just given away for nothing. Giving it away to them is practically providing them with a license to print money at our expense...

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sportsrule101

charlatan
but who will determine what the nations view is on something, the president, a poll?

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tisonlyi

Well, with you being in the states, I imagine that you pick up huge amounts of channels from canada and south america?

In europe, as soon as you invest in a satelite dish, or a cable system with a satelite head, you're exposed to channels in a huge variety of languages and covering a huge variety of tastes.

Go to the middle east and you'll find a lot of channels targetted at your nation whose signal originates in a very far off land (read Iran and L.A. for example ). If you state had total control over "Public" bandwidth, then i'm sure you can see where my line goes here...

No matter what governments try to do, they are always going to be behind the technology. They've no hope of regulating bandwidth, etc. The only way they, governments and societies, have a hope of regulating the content is through the advertisers and companies that are the fuel the media fire burns on.

Any other approach is doomed to failure.

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Pennington

I have unique views that don't fit in to any real party. Im anti-guncontrol, pro-drug use, pro-gay rights, anti big business, pro-choice anti- big government and anti-nazi.

Call me what you will.

The Bolshevist

Hmm...says I am left liberal (true) but would never vote for Federal or Provincial Liberal Party. Federal Liberal Party of Canada is Natural Governing Party and smears itself from left to right, depending on issue. British Columbia Liberal Party is Democratic Fascist in action. (The road to the Winter Olympics will be paved with the bodies of disabled children and seniors! All Hail the ReichsPremier! Support the Olympics or we'll close your hospital!))

Personally, I think any politician who toes "The Party Line" over human rights should be buried up to their necks on a beach and left for the tide to deal with.

Not that I am bitter or anything...

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Ralvek

I am very liberal socially but kinda in the middle on other issues...I don't feel like I haven't affiliated with a party as of yet, although some of my heroes were Dems.

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j8ear

Party affiliation..NEVER.

Since we're three dimensional beings how come our political spectrum is only 2 dimensional?

I propose we add a y axis to the spectrum. Forward and back. Because then I lean forward. We can work on the definitions later

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dy156

I like to think I have a cohesive political philosophy about almost any issue, but it is one that is not really championed by either party. Call me either a practical libertarian or a greedy liberal who wants to keep his money and let everyone else get to keep theirs too. There aren't many socially liberal and economically conservative candidates, and the Libertarian party is too extreme even for me.

Gays want to get married and adopt -hey whatever, and it's probably better than a children's home or worse.
I think everyone has the right to have guns, whatever kind of guns they want, but if you have to have a license to drive a car, I don't think it's unreasonable, and it makes sense to require a license for a gun.
I'd rather see safe pot cigarettes made by Kraft, and think kids staying at home watching cartoons and eating cheetos are more safe than driving from bar to bar getting in fights and looking for sex.
I believe that seperation of church and state is generally a good thing, but that's not what the establishment clause says, and the Supreme Court has expanded it way past what is legally logical.

Balancing the budget is a good thing, but so is going after those who have or could attack us. It also makes sense to invest in ways to prevent missiles from hitting us. Commercial success is one of the advantages America has over the rest of the world, and we should encourage businesses, rather than see big business as the enemy. We need to become less dependant on foriegn oil, and yes, that means drilling in the arctic and elswhere and nuclear power until we can come up with another energy source.
Our medical system needs some help, but Americans need to quit thinking they have a right to healthcare. Tort reforms now proposed will be largely ineffective and will not fix the problem at all. Tax cuts are great, and the poor did not get as large a tax cut because they weren't paying a whole lot of taxes to begin with! We need to change social security by, if not phasing it out, at least upping the retirement age to where it was in the 1930's relative to life expectancy. I'll stop now with my one sentence solutions to complex issues

I can't find many candidates who I agree with, suprise, suprise, but I generally vote conservative.

prb

I don't belong to any political party. To paraphrase Groucho Marx, I wouldn't belong to any party that would have me as a member. According to the test, I am a Centrist (but barely so - - right on the corner between Left-liberal and Authoritarian). I wonder about the test, though, because only about 7% of the test-takers were categorized as Right-Conservatives. Only 7%? How, then, do they dominate politics and political discourse today? /Damn liberal media - - always letting us down.

pangavan

Since my state requires a party affiliation to vote in primary elections I am registered as a republican, but I am really an independant,no one party sees all issues the way I see them and the arguments for thier positions dont convince me to change my mind. The bad side of this is that I ussually dont vote FOR a candidate, but gor the least bad choice.

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hobo

It is because conservatives tend to be religious. I have noticed this in the people I have met. When you have religious conservatives, they oppose abortion, gay rights, etc.

hobo

I am quite liberal, but it is sad that the liberal party isn't that liberal. I just don't like the conservatives in Ontario. They try to sell off everything government owned so they can spend way more than they have.

Gorgo

I scored just Left of Centrist, where Democrats used to be.

On a different political quiz I scored just Left of center, which is when I decided to switch from Republican to Democrat.

I only agree with Republicans on a few issues ie. Firearm Ownership, Death Penalty.

Other issues, especially Economic and Personal Rights issues, make more sense to me from a Left and Democratic point of view.

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gnort

Card carrying member of the green party

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MSD

I believe that a more comprehensive affiliation test was posted before, and I ended up being the most liberal and anti-authoritarian person in the thread.

I am a registered Democrat, but only for the sake of having a say in primary elections. I will vote for whoever I think will be best for the country, and I think that voting along part lines is a sign of a closed, inoperative mind. The only issues that I tend to agree with conservatives on are gun control, which I almost completely oppose, and welfare, which I think should be limited to those who are actively seeking employment or education. For everything else, I tend to be extremely liberal (and I've been told, sometimes annoyingly liberal)

sonikeko

I'm definately a practicing Democrat, or left-liberal. I'm a Senator-At-Large on Bowling Green State University's Undergraduate Student Government, and a registered Democrat. DOWN WITH BUSH!

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Charlatan

(no offence intended but, this is clearly from an American that doesn't have a Public broadcaster...

Public Broadcasters in Democratic states are funded with public (and usualy some sort of private: read advertising) money. They are however, arms length organizations.

The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC), The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC), The Media Corporation of Singapore, NHK (Japan), ABC (Australia), the list goes on... all of them are well known and respected for offering programming (news, sports and entertainment) that goes beyond what the Private Broadcasters have on offer...

losthellhound

According to the very short test I am a:

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Tomservo

I'm a moderate Liberal, and a registered Democrat. Hey, I was elected to be John Edwards' #2 delegate in my district.. too bad he only won one delegate. Heh.

mml

No real surprise here, but I am a Democrat - on the test, I came our as a centrist - smack dab in the center - which makes sense. I am liberal on some issues and conservative on others.

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animosity

i am fairly conservative about issues regarding money, and fairly liberal about issues concerning most everything else.

im still young and not that well informed at the moment to make any major decisions. but so far i can relate to the libertarians more than anyone....