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Location: essex ma
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12 billion dollars vaporizes in iraq
an amazing little story....
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i am not sure quite how to react to this story. i have read through it quite a few times and it still makes almost no sense to me: i mean i understand the sentences, but not what they refer to. so it appears that the americans printed all this money, sent it to iraq to pay contractors and others, hired someone working out of their basement in san diego to oversee ths disbursement (who did nothing), and then apparently allowed the money to vanish. and the reaction to this from officials--who cares? one problem this raises concerns the total lack of accountability to anyone in the context of the privatization of state functions under the bush regime. this plays to an interpretation of privatization that i have long harbored: that it is not about efficiency, but rather about reducing political risk for the state in a period of uncertainty/accelerated change. another is...well...12 billion dollars appears to have vaporized. that's a whole lot of cash. it seems like this should be worrisome. a third is that this appears like a little allegory for much of how the iraq debacle has unfolded. do you see it in these terms? why or why not?
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Location: Washington DC
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What we have needed is another Truman Committee.
While serving in the Senate, Harry Truman chaired an oversight committee from 1941 through the course of WW II to investigate waste, war profiteering, etc....while the war was raging on.: Quote:
Every attempt by the Dem minority in both houses of Congress to hold serious overisght hearing and conduct in-depth investigations were rebuffed. One example? Republicans Block Legislation to Restore Congressional Oversight Over War Contracts (link) The Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR) has been submitting quarterly reports and special audits for 3+ years. Many of these reports and audit raised serious concerns, yet Congress held few meaningful hearings. In fact, one of the last acts of the Repub majority in the House was to add an amendment to the DoD appropriations bill to cease funding for the SIGIR. Fortunately, the Senate killed the amendment. With Waxman now chairing the House Govt Ops Committee ....."the times, they are a changin"
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This will be a "quiet" thread, just as the "Plame Leak" topic, and the "Wilkes Foggo indictments" topic, and the topic of replacing close to a dozen US attorneys, including Carol Lam, heading the Cunningham, Wilkes, Wade, Foggo investiagtion, are "quiet" topics....but, be that as it may, here is more on the topic of this thread's OP:
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Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA
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Great so we just funded the next Osama Bin Laden
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<center><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c4/GeorgeWBush_LPaulBremer_Dec_14_2004.jpg/275px-GeorgeWBush_LPaulBremer_Dec_14_2004.jpg"></center>
Reading this resume, it is clear that Bremer is the epitome of what Bush (and any republican president in the near future, if he draws from the "talent pool" of "credentialed" trusted hacks, who have served in republican administrations sin the '70's...)<b> has to offer...</b> Bremer went to high school, college, and grad school, at exactly the three schools that Bush himself attended. Bremer worked for Kissinger, then Reagan, and finally for Bush: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bremer#Biography |
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Location: Detroit, MI
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Seems to me what we have here is yet another example of trying to do the right thing and screwing up. It seems what we have here is money intended to finance fledgling governmental operations has gone missing/was stolen/who the fuck knows.
Will this determine the outcome of the war? No. Does this justify a swift and total withdrawal? No. Will it get even more people pissed off? Yes. Will it add fuel to the fire? Yes. Does it help our fighting men? No. Is this the left's financial Abu Ghraib? Why not. Should stories like this be reported? Yes. Did I receive any of the money? No. Maybe Iran stole it. Maybe Syria stole it. Maybe al-Qaeda stole it. Maybe Dubai stole it. Maybe Bahrain stole it. Maybe Australia stole it. Maybe Greenland stole it. Maybe Willie Nelson stole it. Maybe it fell into the Persian Gulf. |
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Location: Ventura County
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Location: Ventura County
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You can get a 30 year mortgage with no money down at 6%, deduct the interest - making the after tax rate about 3% (depending on the state). Inflation runs about 3%, so your real cost of money is 0%. Then you have control of an asset going up in value. So by the time you sell, you have lived in a house for free, effectively paid no interest, have enough money for a bigger more expensive house, still have money left over, and pay no capital gains tax on any profit less than $500,000. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Sorry, for the hijack but - I love our "backed by nothing" system and could not let an opportunity to express my love pass (especially so close to Valintines Day).
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Location: Washington DC
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Just as another SIGIR audit found that 14,000 weapons sent to Iraq are missing: Quote:
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Location: Boulder Baby!
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weapons missing?!? money missing?!? yep, we just gave away the means for another group to start a war or an new militant group that inevitably we will feel the need to go put a stop to them.
Does this circle of violence ever end?
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Getting it.
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Both the money and the guns are probably sitting in some warehouse over there buried behind the many tons of other supplies that have been sent over.
Both the guns and the money will probably surface after the next presidential election. It's just another "issue" to keep the electorate fired up about something that really means very little in the grand scope of things. |
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