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Old 01-20-2007, 03:08 PM   #41 (permalink)
 
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Mike...I'm curious why you refer to the Clintons as Slick Willy and Hellary?

Do you think it makes your post more credible? Does it demonstrate your commitment as a loyal republican? Do you think people will find it funny?

What's the point?
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:18 PM   #42 (permalink)
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DC: Sometimes my grandma uses nicknames because she can't remember people's real names. It's depressing because it serves as a reminder that she's getting older and has lost some of her memories and such.

Of course it could just be mike wants to annoy people. I imagine if I always refered to the president as dubbuyuh (I do only on the occasions when I am discussing how stupid the president is, and only after using his name) it would annoy people whether they like Bush or not.
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Old 01-20-2007, 04:22 PM   #43 (permalink)
 
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Will...I dont think its a case of memory loss in this case.

In any case, I dont find the references to Slick Willy and Hellary to be annoying. I just think its childish and counter-productive if someone wants their comments to be taken seriously.

BTW, I thought "dubyuh" came from Bush's friends in Texas, as a way of kidding him about his "southern" roots.
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Old 01-20-2007, 05:14 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I always assumed it was because he couldn't pronounce "double-you" and it always comes out as "dubuyuh" (like a baby saying "dada' instead of "daddy", because the child has not yet developed the necessary ability to speak).
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Mike...I'm curious why you refer to the Clintons as Slick Willy and Hellary?

Do you think it makes your post more credible? Does it demonstrate your commitment as a loyal republican? Do you think people will find it funny?

What's the point?
The point being I have a deep dislike for both of them, she is a shrew and he.... well.... is just a.... slick willie,

Just like when people called Nixon tricky dick, sometimes people call politicians names.

When have I ever said I was a loyal republican? I am a loyal Reconmikeacrat,
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Old 01-22-2007, 12:43 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Good news...Carol Lam, San Diego US attorney who was forced to resign by the Bush administration, won't be around to prosecute these traitorous thugs (too strong a phrase? Who declared this to be a "time of war"...and aren't these profiteering crimes against the US defense department? How would you describe officials who would do these financial crimes, in this era?)....she has apparently made her case, and has ordered an indictment against former #3 at Cia, Kyle "Dusty" Foggo's best friend, and mentor of admitted Duke Cunningham briber, Mitchell Wade, and the man who Cunningham swore to a federal judge, also bribed him....Brent Wilkes...
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WSJ: New Indictment Expected in Hill Scandals
By Justin Rood - January 22, 2007, 11:44 AM

When Duke Cunningham went down in one of the largest congressional bribery scandals in history, he tried to take his main bribers with him: Mitchell Wade, who quickly confessed to the charge and has been cooperating with authorities; and Brent Wilkes, who's rebuffed Duke's accusation and maintained a stony silence to the Feds.

Now, the Wall Street Journal says that federal prosecutors are under orders to deliver a grand jury indictment against Wilkes by Feb. 15.

A note of caution: a Wilkes indictment has been rumored for months. But this has a ring of truth to it. Why? Because according to WSJ the order comes directly from just-ousted U.S. Attorney Carol Lam, who's been overseeing the case -- and who gave the order to take Wilkes down before she leaves on -- you guessed it -- February 15.

Wilkes is involved -- some say centrally -- in more than the Duke Cunningham scandal: prosecutors chasing Rep. Jerry Lewis (R-CA) also think he holds secrets that would help make a case against the former House Approprations Committee chairman, WSJ says. One of his companies was also the recipient of a questionable earmark courtesy of Rep. John Doolittle (R-CA), who is also under scrutiny by federal investigators.
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Politics & Economics: Contractor Proves Key in Two Federal Probes; Investigations Promise to Keep Alive Controversy Over Congressional Earmarks
Scot J. Paltrow. Wall Street Journal. Jan 19, 2007. pg. A.8

A key figure in the case against former Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham has become a focus of the federal investigation of another Republican from California, Rep. Jerry Lewis.

The person who has emerged in both probes is Brent Wilkes, a Poway, Calif., entrepreneur, said people with knowledge of the investigation. His firm received defense and intelligence contracts with congressional help from Mr. Cunningham. The former lawmaker pleaded guilty in November to charges that included soliciting bribes from Mr. Wilkes and was sentenced to more than eight years in prison.

Prosecutors in Los Angeles are examining whether Mr. Lewis may have improperly helped Mr. Wilkes's companies obtain government contracts. A spokeswoman for Mr. Lewis declined to comment on the investigation.

Mr. Lewis is under investigation for possible improper conduct in obtaining "earmarks," or legislative language that steers federal funds to specific recipients. The continuing investigation into his actions is significant because the new House Republican leadership decided to keep Mr. Lewis, of California, on the Appropriations Committee as the top minority member, despite the probe. He had been chairman until Democrats took control of the House this month.

Mr. Lewis has represented California's 41st district since 1979. He was chairman of an appropriations subcommittee on armed services before moving up to become chairman of the Appropriations Committee in January 2005.

The inquiry promises to sustain the debate over congressional earmarks, which has been at the center of this year's attempt to enact new ethics rules for Congress. The House has passed a bill imposing major restrictions although a vote yesterday cast doubt on whether a similar bill will be approved by the Senate.

Prosecutors designated Mr. Wilkes an unindicted co-conspirator in the charges against Mr. Cunningham. Mr. Wilkes himself has been under investigation separately, by the same federal prosecutors in San Diego who investigated the Cunningham case. People with knowledge of that investigation said prosecutors are bringing in last-minute witnesses before a grand jury and expect Mr. Wilkes will be indicted early next month. <b>These people said Carol Lam, the U.S. attorney in San Diego who has been asked to resign by the Justice Department, requested that prosecutors on the case wrap up the investigation and bring charges before she officially steps down Feb. 15.</b> The Justice Department has confirmed that several U.S. attorneys were asked to step down for reasons it said were related to performance but has declined to give details.

Mark Geragos, one of Mr. Wilkes's lawyers, said, "We're comfortable that everything Brent Wilkes did was above board and legal and we don't think that there is any cause for anyone to question it, let alone indict him."

Rep. Lewis' close relationship with a Washington lobbying firm, Copeland Lowery Jacquez Denton & White, is a subject of the probe. The firm was founded by former congressman Bill Lowery, a friend of Mr. Lewis.

Copeland Lowery flourished by signing up corporate and local government clients, which subsequently won earmarks pushed through with Mr. Lewis' help. One Copeland Lowery client, the Lake Arrowhead Community Services District in California, disclosed that the lobbying firm helped obtain for it federal grants totaling $680,000. After the University of Redlands hired Copeland Lowery, it obtained Mr. Lewis's help in securing $21.5 million in federal money for research and a new science center.

One matter under investigation is the tens of millions of dollars in earmarks Mr. Lewis obtained for clients of the firm, which since has split up. Prosecutors also are focusing on campaign contributions Mr. Wilkes and his associates made to Mr. Lewis, and contracts Mr. Wilkes's companies obtained after hiring Copeland Lowery. Among other things, they are looking for possible evidence that Mr. Lewis directed Mr. Wilkes to hire Copeland Lowery as the price for getting earmarks passed, said the people with knowledge of the case.

Barbara Comstock, a spokeswoman for Mr. Lewis, said she wouldn't have any comment on possible links between Messrs. Lewis and Wilkes.

Prosecutors have cast a wide net, some months ago subpoenaing voluminous records from county and local governments in Southern California and companies, all of which hired Copeland Lowery to lobby for them. Many received federal money for local projects with Mr. Lewis's help. People close to the case said prosecutors have focused heavily on contracts awarded to Mr. Wilkes's companies and large campaign contributions he made.

Records on file with the House clerk show Copeland Lowery lobbied on behalf of one Wilkes company, ADCS Inc., from 1998 to 2000, and from 2002 to 2005. ADCS, or Automated Document Conversion Systems, specialized in converting military documents on paper into computerized records. Beginning in 1997, with help from members of the appropriations committee, including Mr. Cunningham, the Poway, Calif., company began winning multimillion-dollar military contracts. Copeland Lowery disclosed receiving about $160,000 for the work. After Mr. Wilkes' name surfaced publicly last year in connection with the corruption investigations, Copeland Lowery revised its disclosure reports to state that it received more than $340,000 from ADCS. A lawyer for Copeland Lowery said the error was inadvertent.

The Project on Government Oversight, a nonpartisan organization that focuses on exposing government corruption, last year found a travel report showing that Mr. Lewis traveled from Washington to visit ADCS headquarters in 1998, shortly before ADCS received a government contract. Mr. Lewis' office confirmed that in the early 1990s, he traveled to Belize on a trip sponsored by Mr. Lowery that included Mr. Wilkes, among others.

Federal campaign records also show Mr. Wilkes and five employees or relatives donated on the same date in 1999 a total of $11,000 to Mr. Lewis's campaign fund. Mr. Wilkes and related individuals also contributed $7,000 in early 1998.

On Sept. 18, 2002, Mr. Wilkes, his wife, nephew and two employees donated $10,000 to Mr. Lewis's Future Leaders Political Action Committee. In 2003, Mr. Wilkes donated another $2,000 to the fund. Mr. Lewis, as with many congressional leaders, maintained the PAC to collect funds that then could be doled out to help fellow Republican lawmakers who faced re-election fights. That largess was credited with helping Mr. Lewis get the Republican leadership's backing to become appropriations chairman.

Mr. Wilkes and people associated with him donated in total about $60,000 to Mr. Lewis' campaign fund or political-action committee. (Mr. Cunningham received campaign donations of $84,500 from Mr. Wilkes and associates.)

It is illegal for a congressman to support legislation as a direct quid pro quo for campaign contributions, but direct links between contributions and actions are difficult to prove. The government must show that the lawmaker took official action only because of the donation. The Constitution's "speech and debate" clause also prevents prosecutors from using evidence from congressional debates, and limits their access to records or testimony about meetings lawmakers held to discuss legislation.

The Los Angeles prosecutors examining Mr. Lewis' actions are looking for a possible direct link, the people with knowledge of the investigation said.

In January 2003, longtime Lewis aide Letitia White left his staff to become a Copeland Lowery partner. Another top aide to Mr. Lewis, Jeffrey Shockey, left the congressman's staff in 1999 to work for the firm. He then returned to become the appropriations committee's deputy staff director when Mr. Lewis became chairman.

Through a spokesman, Copeland Lowery principals have denied any wrongdoing. A spokesman for the principals said "the firm's work is consistent with the laws, rules and regulations that govern federal lobbying." He declined to comment further.

The Cunningham case involved soliciting direct bribes for personal use. According to Mr. Cunningham's plea agreement, Mr. Wilkes paid $636,000 in bribes, including $525,000 to pay off a mortgage on Mr. Cunningham's home.
<b>....so it seems that we are observing a determined, capable, non-partisan US attorney, Carol Lam, refusing to back down to the efforts of a corrupt presidential administration to impede her office's high profile corruption and bribery investigations and prosecutions of powerful republicans currently or formerly in important positions in the CIA and on congressional committees. There was much curiousity as to why the newly appointed director of CIA at the time. Porter Goss, would appoint a mid-level, obscure procurement officer stationed in Germany, with no CIA HQ management experience, to be #3 at CIA....director of operations for an agency with a secret budget in excess of $30 billion per year. Isn't it odd that Goss resigned just after Foggo's house was raided by the FBI and CIA last may, with no explanation as to why he was leaving the CIA?</b>

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Old 01-22-2007, 09:33 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I always assumed it was because he couldn't pronounce "double-you" and it always comes out as "dubuyuh" (like a baby saying "dada' instead of "daddy", because the child has not yet developed the necessary ability to speak).

your right will. i did a search on that a few years ago now..its the 'double-you' that gives him his nick 'dubya'
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oh, its definately a "w". and that sort of nicknaming is incredibly common down here. i don't think it has anything to do with his choice or inability to articulate his speech - that's just the way we talk.

and i love it.
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Old 02-01-2007, 07:59 AM   #49 (permalink)
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The thread got OT...maybe it can be steered back to an OP topic...

Watch CNN commentator Jack Cafferty's blunt video on the replacement of US Attorneys with white house political hacks, including the dismissal of US Attorney Carol Lam, who investigated and prosecuted Duke Cunningham, and is now reported to be about to arrest former CIA #3 Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, and his best friend and named Cunningham briber, Brett Wilkes.....as Carol Lam herself is pushed out the door....

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002429.php

(I have a problem getting sound with the video unless I doubleclick on the arrow in the image....)
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Old 02-01-2007, 08:25 AM   #50 (permalink)
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The thread got OT...maybe it can be steered back to an OP topic...

Watch CNN commentator Jack Cafferty's blunt video on the replacement of US Attorneys with white house political hacks, including the dismissal of US Attorney Carol Lam, who investigated and prosecuted Duke Cunningham, and is now reported to be about to arrest former CIA #3 Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, and his best friend and named Cunningham briber, Brett Wilkes.....as Carol Lam herself is pushed out the door....

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002429.php

(I have a problem getting sound with the video unless I doubleclick on the arrow in the image....)
The on going "deck stacking" is blatent in it's intent and frightening in it's implications. At what point does the POTUS finally become untouchable? Bush has managed to squeek by misleading congress, bypassing FISA and spying on his own people, and a thousand other things, and it is still ongoing.

Did I just miss behavior like this from Clinton, Bush 1, and Reagan, or is this a new low?
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Old 02-01-2007, 09:10 AM   #51 (permalink)
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The on going "deck stacking" is blatent in it's intent and frightening in it's implications. At what point does the POTUS finally become untouchable? Bush has managed to squeek by misleading congress, bypassing FISA and spying on his own people, and a thousand other things, and it is still ongoing.

Did I just miss behavior like this from Clinton, Bush 1, and Reagan, or is this a new low?
C'mon, Will....they alllll do it....slick Willie.....blah blah blah.....
...seriously, though....I'm as "up to speed", following the minutiae of it, as I have since the beginning, and if I don't know all of the specifics of the Cunningham/Abramoff/Wade/Ney (convicted so far....) Delay (indicted, and prosecutor Ronnie Earl has issued subpoenas related to this, also.....) Wilkes/Foggo (about to be indicted), and Lewis, Harris, Ed Buckham, and probably Goss, still under investigation.....what member of the public, does?

(I've documented the "roles" and associations to this, of the names above, this morning on the "Porter Goss" thread....)

The Cunningham investigation began only because a San Diego reporter matched a Washington DC address of a Corp. set up by Mitchell Wade to buy Cunningham's house, with Wade himself, and wrote a story about it.

Fired US Attorney Carol Lam has not been a zealous prosecutor, even though it appears that Wade and Wilkes and Cunningham were on the radar screen of her predecessor as far back as in 2000. She is however, in charge of this complicated mess, and the move to remove her cannot aid in moving along the investigation, especially since she is now reported to be committed to indicting Wilkes and Foggo before she leaves. The "tell" will be who is appointed to replace her.....here is another tangent of this investigation, to provide an additional glimpse of it's depth.
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(June 30, 2006 -- 11:55 AM EDT)

So do we have a preview now of where the investigation into House Appropriations Chairman Jerry Lewis (R-CA) is going?

As we've discussed before, Lewis and at least two of his former staffers -- <a href="http://tpmmuckraker.com/shockey.php">Jeffrey Shockey</a> and <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/03/washington/03white.html?ei=5090&en=8028e0b0e0e4445b&ex=1306987200&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print">Letitia White</a> -- are now targets of the expanded Cunningham investigation. The investigation appears to center on Lewis and the two staffers' interconnected ties to the lobby shop of Copeland Lowery. Lewis has longstanding ties to Copeland Lowery honcho, Bill Lowery, as Copley's Jerry Kammer <a href="http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20051223-9999-lz1n23lewis.html">explained last December.</a> Shockey and White left Lewis' employ to go to work for Copeland Lowery. White, you'll remember, among other things, bought the Capitol Hill house with one of the big earmark cronies and then rented the House to the PAC she set up, which is <a href="http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000838.php">run by Lewis' step-daughter.</a>

Anyway, it's a complicated world in Lewisland. But bear with me.

This isn't an investigation into Lewis' various staffers. This is an investigation of Lewis. The probes into the staffers are means to that end. And given the nature of these investigations, where alleged criminal acts are extremely difficult to prove without a cooperating witness, they need someone to flip on Lewis.

And here's where the significance of <a href="http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001029.php">yesterday's story</a> by Justin Rood comes in. As Justin and the TPMmuckraker staff showed by analyzing Copeland Lowery's flurry of lobby fee restatements earlier this year, the folks at Copeland appear to be in serious legal jeopardy.

In the Abramoff case, prosecutors have been rolling up cooperating witnesses by charging with statutes that are seldom enforced. But legal experts told us that given the systematic nature of the failure to report lobbying work that shows up in the Copeland papers, prosecution seems likely even setting aside the desire to get folks to flip on higher-ups. And Lowery, Shockey and White are each on the line for those failures to report.

So Copeland Lowery's problems are Jerry Lewis' problems. And Copeland Lowery has a lot of problems.

-- Josh Marshall
....by the way, Justin Rood, the reporter who has investigated much of what became the content in the preceding quote box, is profiled here:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2007/01...y2333036.shtml

....that damn "liberal media"....they've rewarded Justin Rood for his unfounded (not) smearing of politically connected traitors, by giving him a new job at ABC news investigative unit and blog, "the blotter":
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/arc..._21.php#012059
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c'mon guys, get real. This is a totally nonpartisan phenomenon. Have you forgotten Ron Brown? Webster Hubbell? Henry Cisneros? That's just off the top of my head. With a spot of research I probably could dig stuff out on every single last administration all the way back to Sherman Adams and past that. And Congress? fuhgeddaboudit........
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There is no arguing that corruption knows no party distinction.

But, when its all said and done, I believe the recent Repub Congress with the likes of Delay, Cunningham, Ney, Doolittle, Burns, et al, will surpass Koreagate (where only one member of Congress was indicted for shading dealings with Sun Young Moon of Washington Times fame), the Keating five S&L scandal (no indictments and John McCain, one of the five, continues on) and even Abscam (the worst bribery scandal in Congressional history, although because of FBI "entrapment", there were few convictions).

Ten years of power absolutely corrupted the Republicans so blatantly and pervasively that their K street project, with a goal of creating a permanent Repub majority through connections to Abramoff and other lobbyists, was their publicly and shamelessly touted pride and joy.

Fortunately, too many were caught with their hands in the cookie jar.
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Old 02-01-2007, 07:19 PM   #54 (permalink)
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oh, c'mon, DcDux. you really must be joking. Either that or you're too young to remember the congressional scandal every few months back when the Dems controlled things. And it was sleazy, too: remember Fanne Foxe?

As I said, this is a nonpartisan foible of people who like power. You go to Dc, and you have to work pretty hard not to let the opportunities go to your head and maintain perspective.
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Fannie Fox...gimme a break. Do you really equate sexual escapades between consenting adults with criminal corruption for financial gain?

If so, I could probably write a book about my two+ years working in the Senate in the 80s when Bob Packwood, the Repub senator from OR was sexually harrassing the women on his staff and others on the hill with whom he had contact.

Sorry loquitor, the last ten years of Repub control took corruption to a new level. Thats not to say the Dems wont ever surpass it. (hiding $100,000 of payoff money in a freezer, for example).....but the bar has certainly been set high (or low as it were) by the Delay/Abramoff crowd.
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Sitting here, I can just keep throwing names out, almost without thinking: Jim Wright. Dan Rostenkowski. (these were speakers of the house, not mere obscure congressmen). Right now, Alan Mollohan (sp?) is under investigation, this minute, today. And this is without doing a lick of research, just off the top of my head.

I think you just have to resign yourself to the fact that politicians are politicians, that being close to power breeds corruption, and that it's neither a Dem nor Rep phenomenon. The notion that there is anything unique about the lamentable way the recent Repubulican majority behaved is fanciful. I would submit, in fact, that the reason the Republicans lost their majority was precisely because their own base got disgusted that they were behaving just like the old-time Dems who they threw out in '94.
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You can cite many more individual names from the the past, but having seen alot of it up close over the last 20 years, including the influence of the K street crowd for the last 10 years, you wont change my mind about the most recent level and pervasiveness of corruption that surpassed any previous Dem-controlled Congress (that includes, as I mentioned, the Abscam Congress, the Korea-gate Congress, and the Keating-Five Congress, all recognized as among the worst scandals in Congressional history) with the most violations of federal laws, campaign regulations, and/or congressional ethics rules.

This captures the GOP Auction House pretty well, considering the source (DCCC).

I hope the voters continue to hold both parties accountable and those elected to power learn from it.
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personally, i think that the conservative approach to economic activity creates a certain ethically challenged mode of rule.

you know, the idea that you should take everything that you can because the world is a giant private sphere and all economic activity is a productive intervention in that giant private sphere, that the extension of markets provides god with a better way to bring unto righteousness all and sundry, and that capital creates not labor, and that by extending the reach of market relations one is doing gods work, and that god's work relies upon the Heroic Exertion of the Entrepreneur, the capitalist demiurge, and that it is by the
sweat of the virtuous brow of the Entrepreneur that the reach of god and markets (the same thing, really) is extended across otherwise benighted sections of the giant private sphere, that this extension improves that giant private sphere----and since it is by the sweat of one's brow that the giant private sphere is improved, it follows that one is entitled to take whatever one can get as compensation for the expenditure of the aforementioned sweat and the dirtying of the aforementioned virtuous brow----and since one's virtue is confirmed by the giantness of the mounds of cash that flow through the private business apparatus it follows that the magnitude of what one can take as compensation rises as one's virtue rises--so it follows that one is affirmed in one's righteousness as one gathers ever-larger amounts of cash unto oneself--and that within this Exalted Sphere of Righteousness that is vast wealth, the fashioning of networks and sweetheart deals and nobid contract arrangements and nepotism and other such actions that would be counted as ethical lapses amongst the Fallen are not understood that way--all actions are the simple extension of Righteousness. it would also follow that people who misinterpret the actions of the Righteous as being ethically problematic are probably tainted with the original sin of class envy. "they" resent us because they resent our Righteousness. "they" are the devil's spawn.

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One of the fastest growing "economic activities" in the last six years is influence peddling (ie lobbying).


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The number of registered lobbyists in Washington has more than doubled since 2000 to more than 34,750 while the amount that lobbyists charge their new clients has increased by as much as 100 percent. Only a few other businesses have enjoyed greater prosperity in an otherwise fitful economy.

The lobbying boom has been caused by three factors, experts say: rapid growth in government, Republican control of both the White House and Congress, and wide acceptance among corporations that they need to hire professional lobbyists to secure their share of federal benefits.
And when influence peddling grows, corruption is sure to follow.
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...one nation, under God, indivisible....with freedom and justice for everyone except....those who Karl Rove decides....are "gone".

No wonder "they hate us for our freedom"!

The thugs made a mistake...allowing li'l Mclatchy News to buy Knight Ridder, last year. If Ruppert or somebody from CNP (Salem) had bought it, a lot of these embarassing "scoops" wouldn't get publicized:
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WASHINGTON - Presidential advisor Karl Rove and at least one other member of the White House political team were urged by the New Mexico Republican party chairman to fire the state's U.S. attorney because of dissatisfaction in part with his failure to indict Democrats in a voter fraud investigation in the battleground election state.

In an interview Saturday with McClatchy Newspapers, Allen Weh, the party chairman, said he complained in 2005 about then-U.S. Attorney David Iglesias to a White House liaison who worked for Rove and asked that he be removed. Weh said he followed up with Rove personally in late 2006 during a visit to the White House.

"Is anything ever going to happen to that guy?" Weh said he asked Rove at a White House holiday event that month.

"He's gone," Rove said, according to Weh.

"I probably said something close to 'Hallelujah,'" said Weh.

Weh's account calls into question the Justice Department's stance that the recent decision to fire Iglesias and seven U.S. attorneys in other states was a personnel matter - made without White House intervention. Justice Department officials have said the White House's involvement was limited to approving a list of the U.S. attorneys after the Justice Department made the decision to fire them.

Rove could not be reached Saturday, and the White House and the Justice Department had no immediate response.

"The facts speak for themselves," Iglesias said, when he was told of Weh's account of his conversation with Rove......
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:32 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Prediction: Now that Brent Wilkes has finally been convicted, former chairman of the House Defense Appropriations Committee, Rep. Jerry Lewis (R-CA) may be next to be indicted, because Wilkes will roll over on him in exchange for a reduction in his prison sentence....I'm assuming an earnest prosecution team would also demand that Wilkes cooperate in the prosecution of his life-long, best bud, former #3 at CIA, Kyle "Dusty" Foggo. I'm impressed, because, as I've recapped below, the hollowed out DOJ under Fredo Gonzales seemed to be obstructing investigations and prosecutions that should be considered "vital" in an all out, "War on Terror".....

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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/p...05wilkes2.html
Wilkes convicted on all 13 counts

By Greg Moran
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

and Angelica Martinez and Greg Gross
UNION-TRIBUNE BREAKING NEWS TEAM

1:44 p.m. November 5, 2007

SAN DIEGO – Brent Wilkes was convicted Monday of 13 felonies for bribing former congressman Randy “Duke” Cunningham with expensive meals, trips, a yacht and mortgage payments for his Rancho Santa Fe mansion in exchange for lucrative government defense contracts.

The verdict was announced just before noon. The jury had been deliberating since Wednesday.

The 53-year-old Poway defense contractor faces at least 20 years
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/p...n-bribery.html
By Allison Hoffman
ASSOCIATED PRESS

1:51 p.m. October 30, 2007

SAN DIEGO – A defense contractor testified Tuesday that he never asked former U.S. Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham to return $100,000 toward his stay on a river yacht because the contractor didn't want to upset the lawmaker.

Prosecutors claim that Brent Wilkes, 53, never tried to get the money back because the cash was a bribe.

“You did him a favor you didn't have to do – you let him stay on the boat,” said Phillip Halpern, a government lawyer.

Wilkes told jurors repeatedly in three hours of cross-examination that he wanted to keep Cunningham on his side, <h3>but said other congressman were more critical to securing nearly $90 million in Pentagon contracts for his document-digitization business. Those included former Appropriations Committee chair Jerry Lewis, R-Redlands,</h3> and former committee member John Doolittle, R-Rocklin.

During his testimony last Friday, Wilkes denied bribing Cunningham or any other members of Congress. On Tuesday, Wilkes again rejected the suggestion that he decided it was better for business to keep giving lawmaker meals, vacations and cash than to play by House rules on gifts and payments between contractors and congressmen.....
<h3>Background:</h3>

Please consider that Cunningham is out of office and in a federal prison, but that he was bribed by Brett Wilkes and Mitchell Wade, and that their "activities" have been tied to the following. <b>If you have a comparable example of democrats described in any way similar to the following, during a "time of war", no less.....please post what you've got to share with us.....</b>
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/n...1n12lewis.html
By Jerry Kammer and Dean Calbreath
COPLEY NEWS SERVICE / STAFF WRITER

May 12, 2006

WASHINGTON – Rep. Jerry Lewis, chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, angrily denied yesterday that he or his staff had engaged in any misconduct in dealing with lobbyists or in “earmarking” federal money.

But a federal government source told The San Diego Union-Tribune that investigators were probing Lewis' dealings with lobbyist and former Republican Rep. Bill Lowery of San Diego. The source said the investigation was a spin-off from the corruption probe of now-imprisoned former Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham.

“Investigators are clearly interested in what role the congressman
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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070321/D8O07EA80.html
Senator Eyes Another Attorney Departure

Mar 20, 8:06 PM (ET)

By ERICA WERNER

WASHINGTON (AP) - Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Tuesday she wants answers about the departure of the former U.S. attorney in Los Angeles, who resigned last October before the Justice Department's dismissal of eight other U.S. attorneys sparked controversy.....

......A Gibson Dunn spokeswoman issued a statement on Yang's behalf Tuesday night. "Debra Wong Yang's decision to leave her post as U.S. attorney to pursue a private practice was entirely her own, and she had many options to choose from. We are delighted that she chose Gibson Dunn," it said.

Justice spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said Yang was not asked to leave.

"Debra Yang was a highly regarded and well-respected prosecutor for the Justice Department," he said.

Feinstein noted Tuesday that there are numerous names blacked out in documents the Justice Department has released in recent days in response to the controversy. Feinstein did not specify what her concerns were about Yang, but she has complained repeatedly that six of the eight U.S. attorneys dismissed last year were in the midst of prosecuting public corruption cases, mostly focused on Republicans.

<h3>About five months before Yang's departure, her office had opened an investigation into ties between Rep. Jerry Lewis, R-Calif., and a lobbyist. Gibson Dunn, the firm that hired her, is also the firm where Lewis' legal team works,</h3> but government rules required that she step aside in that case or any other she was involved with while a government prosecutor.

The Lewis case is connected to the corruption investigation in San Diego that began with the 2005 conviction of former GOP Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham, who is serving jail time for bribery. Former U.S. Attorney Carol Lam in San Diego, who was among those dismissed last year, was prosecuting that case. Feinstein contends that Lam's dismissal had something to do with the her role in the Cunningham investigation, though the Justice Department denies it.
.....In the months after Cunningham pleaded guilty, Lewis resisted an independent investigation of Cunningham's activities on the Appropriations Committee. He said he did an informal review of Cunningham's earmarks over several years and was satisfied that they were all legitimate.

Lewis said in his written statement yesterday that he would “welcome a thorough review of these projects.”

His office did not respond to requests that it release the results of his informal review. Copley News Service requested a list of the earmarks, the companies that benefited from them and the amount of money involved.

A former director of the committee's Democratic staff called on Lewis to be more forthcoming about Cunningham's actions.

“I think he has an obligation to explain what happened here because his committee . . . was used for corrupt purposes,” said Scott Lilly, who left the committee in 2004.

According to government and defense industry sources, Lewis and Cunningham worked together to help Poway military contractor Brent Wilkes as he pursued contracts on Capitol Hill. Cunningham admitted taking bribes from Wilkes, who has been identified as co-conspirator No. 1 in Cunningham's plea agreement.

On April 15, 1999, three months after Lewis was named chairman of the House defense appropriations subcommittee, he received $17,000 in campaign contributions from Wilkes and his associates. At the time, Wilkes was vying for a project to digitize military documents in the Panama Canal Zone, which the United States was about to return to Panama.

“If you can't go to people on Capitol Hill, it's very difficult to remain viable as a government contractor,” said one of Wilkes' associates who contributed money to Lewis at the time. “You have to talk to people. And to talk to people, you have to give money.”

But the Panama project hit a snag. The Pentagon did not want to give Wilkes as much money as he requested.

On July 6, 1999, Wilkes wrote to Cunningham saying “We need $10 m(illion) more immediately . . . This is very important and if you cannot resolve this others will be calling also.”

Wilkes' memo – contained in federal documents accompanying Cunningham's guilty plea – then named two people whose names were blacked out by the prosecutors.

According to military and defense industry sources, Lewis and Cunningham got the money for Wilkes, founder of ADCS Inc., by using their clout to threaten the funding of the Pentagon's F-22 fighter jet.

The jet had been criticized as an expensive boondoggle by budget hawks on Capitol Hill. But it had the support of many lawmakers – including Cunningham – until it reached Lewis' committee.

During a closed-door meeting in July 1999, the committee voted unanimously to clip $1.8 billion from proposed funding for the F-22. The move was led by Lewis and Cunningham, who said at a public meeting that month, “I would not want to fly the F-22.”

“Once Lewis and Cunningham stopped the F-22, they trained the Department of Defense to understand their power,” said the former San Diego defense contractor. “So they were able to tell people that if you want to do any document conversion project, you'd better buy from ADCS.”

A Pentagon official told the Los Angeles Times this week that the Pentagon shifted roughly $10 million to Wilkes' flagship company, ADCS Inc., after the F-22 was threatened.

“The Defense Department spends $1 billion a day, so the (ADCS) contract was like a rounding error,” the official said. “It just wasn't worth putting our big programs at risk.”

Funding for the F-22 was quickly restored. And the next year, when Democratic Rep. Peter DeFazio of Oregon tried to cut F-22 funding, Cunningham went to the floor of the House to call him a “socialist.”

“Our kids are going to die, and it's amendments like this that have stopped our military from surviving,” he said.

Lewis has maintained there is no connection between the F-22 funding cut and aid for Wilkes.

<h3>Since 1993, Lewis has received $88,252 in contributions from Wilkes and his associates. Only two other legislators received more: Cunningham and Republican Rep. John Doolittle from the Sacramento suburbs, both of whom have admitted steering millions of dollars in contracts to ADCS.</h3>

During the same period, ADCS received more than $90 million in federal contracts, most of it through earmarks from the Appropriations Committee.

“From the standpoint of the average American citizen, that smells,” said Ned Wigglesworth, executive director of TheRestofUs.org, a liberal political watchdog group in Sacramento. “It's good to see that federal investigators have broadened the investigation into Lewis. His relationship with Wilkes has many of the same hallmarks that Cunningham's relationship had.”....
....so it's looking like Rep. Jerry Lewis (R-CA) is being protected by the very firm that has hired the former US Attorney who initiated an investigation against him for his Randy Cunningham related activity....and if that is not enough....remember the republican "fixer", the man who lied to the senate judiciary committee in 2001, concerning his role in creating the "Arkansas Project", the <a href="http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/04/27/scaife.profile/">Richard Mellon Scaife financed, R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr.</a> managed plan to eliminate the Clinton presidency....(I covered him in my earlier TFP politics thread:
<a href="http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=92438">Are Ted Olson and Al Zarqawi both "Supermen"?</a> .....yeah the "Ted Olson" whose name is mentioned as Gonzales's replacement as Atty. General:
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Administration officials say Gonzales should step down - CNN.com
White House aides say Gonzales hurt himself during testimony Thursday ... One name that consistently comes up is Ted Olson, former solicitor general. ...
www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/20/gonzales/ - Apr 21, 2007 - Similar pages
Yup.....Ted Olson's here, too....he'll be working with Deborah Yang, at "the firm", to presumably protect "Jerry Lewis, et al":
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http://www.gibsondunn.com/news/firm/...pubItemId=8231
U.S. Attorney Debra Wong Yang Joins Gibson Dunn in Los Angeles

October 17, 2006

Los Angeles. Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP is pleased to announce Debra Wong Yang, the United States Attorney for the Central District of California in Los Angeles, will join the firm as partner in the Los Angeles office.

<h3>At Gibson Dunn, Yang will co-chair the firm’s Crisis Management Practice Group, along with Washington, D.C. partner Theodore B. Olson,</h3> the former Solicitor General of the United States, and New York partner Randy Mastro, the former New York Deputy Mayor of Operations. In addition, Yang will play a central role in the Business Crimes and Investigations Practice Group.

“Debra Wong Yang is one of the most respected U.S. Attorneys in the country. <h3>She has done a remarkable job in leading the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Los Angeles, which handles some of our Nation’s largest and most difficult cases,” said Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales.</h3> “She was selected to serve on the Attorney General’s Advisory Committee, a small group of U.S. Attorneys that I consult on policy matters, and she served in this and other capacities with great distinction. She is an energetic leader and has an amazing ability to build connections with community leaders at all levels.”....
and there is "plenty more", over at the "Why did Goss Resign?" thread:
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=104278

....and I posted this, 13 months ago:<a href="http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?p=2022717#post2022717">What Are We Going to do About Terrorism?</a>
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http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...7&postcount=51
........Is it "odd" that, if not for a newspaper reporter in San Diego, who "broke" the story that Randy Cunningham was taking massive bribes to sell his influence on Pentagon procurement decisions, to Wilkes and his protege, the now guilty Mitchell Wade, it would still be "business as usual"....Cunningham would still be in congress....pressuring the Pentagon to buy things that it didn't need to defend our country, in exchange for more cash from Wilkes and Wade.

Isn't it odd that the chairman Jerry Lewis of the congressional Defense Appropriations committee, even now avoids launching a formal inquiry into the damage to our defense....in wartime"... that Randy Cunningham actaully cost, or to find if other members of congress were also accepting bribes?

Isn't it odd that the White House <a href="http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000058.php">refuses to disclose</a> just what it paid Mitchell Wade's company...with the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/27/AR2005062701856.html">people's money</a>. for? Or....why <b>Tom Delay or his pastor and former chief of staff, Ed Buckham, won't disclose what influence Brent Wilkes bought with the more than $500,000 that Wilkes paid to Buckham's ASG lobbying entity, which employed Delay's wife, Christine, to not perform a "no show" job.</b>

<b>Did congressman Bob Ney act "oddly"</b>, when he entered praise for Brent Wilkes in the congressional record, oddly reminiscent of a similar action that he performed on behalf of convicted lobbyists Abramoff and Michael Scanlon?

Isn't it odd that two scandals, "Abramoff" and "Cunningham" can involve so many government officials and so much money, with a commonality that much of the money enriched members iof the ruling politcal party and their election campaigns, but almost nobody here talks about them? Is it just easier to chat about a vague "war on terror" that does not change the behavior of those charged by the American people to manage it as quickly, efficiently, and as inexpensively, and...of course,
<b>AS OPENLY</b> as possible, with more serious enforcement of all laws, and with the stiffest possible penalties for those who break the law and weaken our security or are "war profiteers"? Isn't actually undermining the "war effort", a crime that deserves to be examined, discussed, and railed against, more vigoroulsy with the attention and vitriol directed against those who merely ask questions like the ones I am asking, or engage in peaceful protest and dissent as they lawfully conduct themselves as per past constitutionally guaranteed precedent?

Why, then the silence, the acceptance, the lack of curious comment, the lack of outrage, the blind, lockstep, recitation of conservative republican official talking points? Odder still, when we observe that the "support" for failure, duplicity, and by intentional negelect....open, unchallenged and uninvestigated corruption committed by key intelligence, defense, and congressional officials, duing wartime, and at the expense of all of us, even those who once called themselves "small government, "fiscal conservatives"!
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http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...3&postcount=17

From 1991 to 1993, a young lieutenant commander in the Navy Reserve was working as a program manager in a Pentagon intelligence office. His name was Mitchell John Wade. His boss, the assistant secretary of defense for command, control, communications and intelligence, was Duane P. Andrews. Andrews's job at the Pentagon was essentially to serve as intelligence advisor to the secretary of defense. The secretary of defense at the time was someone that Andrews knew well and respected immensely: Dick Cheney.....

.......In 1993, at the end of George H.W. Bush's presidency, Cheney went on to become CEO of the oil services giant Halliburton; Andrews joined the massive government contractor SAIC, where he would rise to become CIO; and Wade, then 40 years old, moved to form his own defense contracting firm, MZM, Inc. But it wasn't until 2002 that MZM would get its first federal government contract: a peculiar one-month, $140,000 contract from the White House, later revealed to be for providing computers, office furniture, and specialized computer programming services to the Office of the Vice President.

<p>Wade's company would later get three more contracts from the White House and tens of millions of dollars in contracts from the Defense Department and other federal agencies, many of them for classified intelligence work. In the summer of 2005, of course, it all began to unravel for MZM, after journalist Marcus Stern of the <em>San Diego Union Tribune</em>/Copley News service noticed that San Diego congressman Duke Cunningham had sold his house to a company that listed as its name a Washington, D.C. street address, 1523 New Hampshire Ave. This was the address of MZM. After an extensive investigation that led to a sprawling federal probe run out of the San Diego U.S. attorney's office (the now-fired Carol Lam), Wade pled guilty last year and is awaiting sentencing on charges related to bribing Cunningham, who himself pled guilty on bribery-related charges and is serving out an eight year prison sentence. In February, three more indictments were issued in the case, this time against a San Diego-based defense contractor and Bush/Cheney Pioneer with whom Wade had closely worked, Brent Wilkes; Wilkes's longtime friend-turned-CIA executive director Kyle Dustin Foggo, who is accused of steering Wilkes CIA contracts and has since resigned; and the nephew of a Greek American businessman who is accused of laundering some of Wilkes's and Wade's bribes to Cunningham......
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http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007..._123_28_07.txt
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......Waxman released a letter he wrote to White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolton, wherein Waxman asserted that in July 2002, MZM received a White House contract. The $140,000 contract called for providing computers and furniture for Vice President Dick Cheney's office.

"To date ... there has been no examination of the circumstances surrounding MZM's initial federal contract and the role that White House officials played in the award and execution of the contract," Waxman's letter stated.

In the letter, Waxman asked the White House to provide the documents to the committee by April 6, including:

- all contracts, subcontracts and task orders between MZM and any associated firms,

- all invoices and payments made,

- all reviews of MZM's performance and contacts with its employees and

- communications between MZM, the White House, the General Services Administration and the Departments of Defense and Interior and members of Congress or their staff.

White House officials did not return phone calls seeking comment.....
....and reconmike.....this is why, if it still isn't clear.....<b>WHY IT MATTERS:</b>
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http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002582.php
The Honorable Alberto Gonzales
U.S. Attorney General
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001

Dear Attorney General Gonzales:

Last week, Congressman Emanuel sent you a letter requesting that former U.S. Attorney in San Diego Carol Lam be appointed as outside counsel to finish her work on the Duke Cunningham Case. Unfortunately, your office has not yet responded to that letter.

<b>Two days ago, Lam's investigation continued to bear fruit as a federal grand jury charged Kyle "Dusty" Foggo and Brent Wilkes with at least 11 felony counts related to their involvement with Cunningham.</b> As Elana Schor's article in The Hill yesterday points out, "Justice Department officials have praised the Cunningham probe as the linchpin of their growing pursuit of public corruption cases, yet prosecutor Lam is nonetheless slated to step down[Thursday] after the Bush administration cited unspecified 'performance' issues in requesting her resignation late last year. Six other U.S. attorneys, several involved in ongoing corruption investigations, were dismissed at about the same time."

As you know, of those seven fired U.S. Attorneys, Lam was not the only one investigating sitting public officials before being dismissed. For example, Daniel Bogden of Nevada and Paul Charlton of Arizona were dismissed while their offices were conducting probes concerning elected officials.

Schor's article also notes that Deputy U.S. Attorney General Paul McNulty was scheduled to brief members of the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday with information on the decisions to dismiss the U.S. Attorneys. During last week's public Senate hearing, Deputy U.S. Attorney General McNulty confirmed that Bud Cummins III, the former U.S. attorney for Eastern Arkansas, was dismissed without cause to install Timothy Griffin, a former aide to White House adviser Karl Rove.

Carol Lam's indictments of Foggo and Wilkes underscore the importance of last week's request and the need for an explanation of why these diligent public servants were dismissed. It is vital that U.S. Attorneys be able to prosecute wrongdoing free from political pressure. We are pleased that the Department of Justice has also agreed to brief members of the House Judiciary Committee on the dismissals of Carol Lam and other U.S. Attorneys. <h3>We look forward to further details regarding the date for that briefing and your response regarding the request to appoint Carol Lam as an outside counsel to finish the Cunningham and related investigations.</h3>

Thank you for your prompt attention to these matters. We look forward to hearing from your office.

Sincerely,

Rahm Emanuel
Member of Congress

Howard Berman
Member of Congress

John Conyers
Chairman, Judiciary Committee

Linda Sánchez
Chairman, Subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative Law
(I wrote the following, early this year...)
I've "studied" this "mess" for the last 28 months.....this is a ticking time bomb, and if republicans think that they can "defuse" it, by bringing "Ted the Fixer" in to replace Gonzales, right after he installs the prosecutor, Deborah Yang who was investigating Jerry Lewis, onto Lewis's criminal defense team, consider what "Ted" once told the SCOTUS justices:
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...9291-2002Mar20

......a conflicting statement by Solicitor General Theodore Olson to the Supreme Court on Monday has the ring of perverse honesty.

It is "easy to imagine an infinite number of situations . . . where government officials might quite legitimately have reasons to give false information out," the Justice Department's senior trial lawyer said to the justices, who are weighing Jennifer Harbury's claim that she had the right to the truth about the torture and murder of her Guatemalan revolutionary husband by CIA-financed Guatemalan forces in 1993. .......
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/ne...posts?page=181
Mayor Giuliani Annouces Theodore [Ted] Olson as Chair of Justice Advisory Committee
joinRudy2008.com ^ | 3/1/07 | Campaign press release

.....“Ted Olson is a renowned Constitutional expert, one of the very best lawyers in the United States and I am honored to have his support," Mayor Giuliani said. "Judith and I are even more honored by his friendship."......

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Old 11-06-2007, 05:17 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Regarding the OP (and disregarding the subsequent flurry of quote posts):

Politicians do not love or hate freedom, it is simply a concept they will exploit to further thier own ends. This goes for Bush, Bin Laden, Cheney, Clinton, Zawahiri, Obama and Giuliani.

Do you actually think any of the above mentioned have your interests at heart?
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