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StanT 08-08-2005 01:41 PM

4 year old riding an ATV?
 
This has been in the news here in Colorado:


Searchers Look For Missing Weld County Boy
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KERSEY, Colo. -- Searchers in Weld County are looking for a missing 4-year-old boy who was last seen Friday night riding an all-terrain vehicle about 5 miles from Kersey.

Divers, searching the nearby Platte River, said they found a fender from the ATV and a shoe from the missing boy. Four dive teams are probing the river for more clues.

About 150 people are involved in the search, which is being conducted in the river and on the ground.

The boy was reported missing at about 8 p.m. Friday while riding around the dairy farm where he lives along Weld County Road 388.

Volunteers began looking for the boy immediately and searched through the night.

The dive teams are concentrating on the river.

The boy was not identified.

Body Of Missing 4-Year-Old Found

Quote:

The body of missing 4-year-old Weld County boy was found by searchers in the South Platte River Sunday evening.

Sam Cockcroft's body was located at 5:30 p.m. near a river bank, trapped by a cottonwood tree branch hanging over the water.

More than 300 people helped with the search Sunday. Authorities also called for water diversions to make the river shallower after heavy rains, Martinez said.

There had been no sign of Cockroft since Saturday morning, when searchers found one of his boots and pieces of his ATV in the river, she said.

Cockroft had been taught how to float on his ATV in the water, Platte Valley Fire Protection District Capt. Barry Schaefer said. Martinez has said it is not unusual for such young children to drive ATVs in a rural, agricultural community.

An autopsy will be performed to determine the cause of death, authorities said.
I've got problems with this incident on a lot of levels, most specifically the quote "Martinez has said it is not unusual for such young children to drive ATVs in a rural, agricultural community.". At the age of 4, my daughters had a hard time controlling a big wheel, let alone a ATV with a gasoline engine. The fact that a 4 year old is anywhere unsupervised seems insane to me, as well. This has been on the news out here and the attitude has been that this is how things are in rural areas. I've lived in the sticks all of my life and it just seems really wrong to me.

Opinions?

maleficent 08-08-2005 01:43 PM

This is a tragedy that didn't have to happen. What kind of moronic parent leaves a 4 year old unsupervised, especially when on a gasoline powered vehicle. He'd 4, he doesn't have the experience yet to know what's good judgement what's not - that is what parents are for.

/me shakes head at the stupidity of some people...

feelgood 08-08-2005 01:47 PM

ATV comes in all kind of different size. The kid could've been driving one of those kid-size ATV. The article doesn't say but that's one of the possible reason why a 4 years old kid is riding a ATV.

If it was a full size one, it's impossible for the kid to actually reach both the peddle and the handlebar (Unless it was a gigantic kid)

StanT 08-08-2005 01:51 PM

Other news articles list it as a kid sized 50cc ATV.


I'm not sure why that would make a difference.

feelgood 08-08-2005 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StanT
Other news articles list it as a kid sized 50cc ATV.


I'm not sure why that would make a difference.

Another reason for governments to rollback on their decisison to let companies make kid size vehicles.

Another reason why governments should license parents

maleficent 08-08-2005 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feelgood
ATV comes in all kind of different size. The kid could've been driving one of those kid-size ATV. The article doesn't say but that's one of the possible reason why a 4 years old kid is riding a ATV.

Even if it was the size of a big wheel, a parent would let a child outside, out of their line of vision for long enough for the kid to fully disappear and have a search party called in?

Even if it is in the country - it seems pretty irresponsible of a parent to leave the kid unattended for so long

ShaniFaye 08-08-2005 02:10 PM

When Amanda was 4 we bought her one of those little motorized jeep thingys, I cant tell you how many times I got banged on the knees getting between her and the back end of my car...NO WAY IN HELL....let me repeat NO WAY IN HELL would she have been riding that unsupervised for any amount of time. If I had to go to the bathroom she was made to get off of it and come with me.

those parents should be charged with neglect.

Grasshopper Green 08-08-2005 03:10 PM

My cousin got one of those things for his 7th birthday. I shook my head in disbelief. He lives in a rural area as well, and it's pretty common for young kids to have them there. My son is coming up on his fourth birthday and is having difficulty with his tricycle....I just don't understand the reasoning behind this.

Lasereth 08-08-2005 06:32 PM

Yeah, my 4 year old sister has a power wheel thing and she still has a hard time understanding that turning the steering wheel makes the jeep move at all. An ATV? This child better have been seriously advanced or something else this is pure idiotic parenting.

-Lasereth

Jinn 08-09-2005 11:33 AM

At least something has to be said in this being a rural area. I live in a rural-ish area of Colorad, and my parents had 6-20 acres in our "backyard." They couldn't be expected to watch us 24/7, and they couldn't be expected to follow us everywhere we went. Certainly at 4 years old.. they would've been watching us.. but at 6 or 7? Me and my sister were playing "story" where I was the knight and she the princess.. galloping all over the property by ourselves. An accident could have happened, and I wouldn't have chalked it up to bad parenting. I think they trusted us to be somewhat responsible. Likewise, I was riding my bicycle down our dirt road at a pretty young age -- it's hard to say how responsible both the child and the parents were. The parents might've been unfortuntely lulled into believing their child was more responsible than he was.

However, it's also hard for me to see letting a 4 year old, even a 10 year old.. sit on something thats got red-hot tailpipes, an explosive liquid, and toxic fumes. That's something you gotta be like .. 16 for. :)

MSD 08-10-2005 06:33 PM

Motocross events have age 5-7 dirtbike events, and there's a thing called "Jr. Dragster" (yes, kids with nitromethane powered dragsters,) so it doesn't surprise me that parents buy this stuff for their kids. I'd wait until they were 10 or 12, but that's just me (don't start with the "you don't have kids" stuff because I ignore anything like that.)

typhus 08-11-2005 09:38 AM

I think 4 year olds have a hard enough time walking and running, Let alone driving a motorized vehicle around. I think you need to be at least a teenager to drive anyting that moves without you powering it.

Apache 08-11-2005 06:36 PM

It's just a shame that a child is dead because he had idiots for parents! 4 year old children have no buisiness on anything like that. My son won't have a go-cart, 4 wheeler, dirt bike or anything like that probably until he's a teenager. But it really is such a sad story.


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