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If a boy robs a convience store, what should be the punishment (eye) for his robbery (also eye)? Should we steal from him? How does prison fit the crime? Sorry for all the questions. Is punishment simply a penalty or should it serve to teach those who have done wrong? I'd like to think that justice for those who have done wrong isn't simply a penalty, but an opportunity to learn and grow so that the person can become better. If, hypothetically, there was a way to completly reform someone who had commited hainus (death penmalty worthy) acts, would you not want to punish them and then help them? What if a murderer could be punished and then helped to understand that what he or she did was wrong and should not be done? Doesn't that seem better than stuffing them into a crate for 20 years and then gassing them or injecting them with poison? |
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Unfortunately, such a thing as a "no doubt conclusion" doesn't exist. Hence why people say "beyond reasonable doubt".
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Both d*d and willravel obviously bring forth valid points. Life and death issues are and probably always will be shades of gray with almost limitless degrees between. We are each individuals with different views and different takes on what we call life and death... d*d, I appologize for my last post quoting you... I should not have done that in the tone I did. |
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It's kinda the wrong reason for punishment. Depending on the reason, no one should kill for justice. As other TFPers would say, it would not teach a lesson. Why would you want someone dead? For revenge? Then what? You will probably wanting more. In my opinion, when the families of the victims are interviewed after the convict's death, I don't think they are happy. They are still sad, not happy that he is dead. The convict's family is hurt because now they lost a loved one. More people are being punished than for the death of one person. Quote:
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Do you know what Paul meant when he wrote Romans 13:1-5? Well, I do. At the time this letter was written, the Christians of Rome were being ruled by a non-Christian government. Christians were tempted to not submit (rebel) and claim allegience only to Christ. Paul was trying to prevent a rebelion, not suggest that the government is always right. |
Well, sense it has happeneds all over the world and is not going to be stopped anytime soon the true question would have to be what is right and wrong and each individuals perceptions of what right and wrong are seperatly. Along with that is the argument of weather or not a persons sense of right and wrong is true to a universal standard which would of course be set by the given society that one inhabits. So it might be said that if a majority of society says that the death penalty is wrong or right then the society rules, inless of course you dont care about universal standard by which of course your saying that right and wrong are not true inless they follow your perceptions of what right and wrong are.
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The death penalty is right. There are people out there that just deserve to die. Evil does exist.
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I certainly think that some people should die for the suffering they've caused others, part of me just thinks that its an easy way out for them.
For me, the criminals should be given life sentences (and I mean LIFE sentences, not 25 years, parolled after 15) where they spend every waking moment til the day they die in a 6x4 room with nothing but a bucket and a matress for company. That way they can contemplate what they've done. Not for rehabilitation purposes, just for their own personal torment. It's more of a 'punishment' in my opinion. |
There are better ways of punishing a criminal. Killing someone does nothing to help society, aside from removing said person. Prison, in its current form, is also stupid. Criminals should be used as cheap labour to make our products. They could be hired out to companies at less than the wage they would normally hire foreigners in sweatshops, and we could have some guilt-free Nikes. Do it up concentration camp style.
And who cares if the criminals don't necessarily feel punished? Guilt and remorse are highly overrated by our society. Remorse is important for the average person, and the good person, but that does not mean that someone cannot be productive without it. The only time one should take the life of another person is if that very person is himself threatening innocent life, and even then only if unavoidable. |
[QUOTE=Suave]There are better ways of punishing a criminal. Killing someone does nothing to help society, aside from removing said person. Prison, in its current form, is also stupid. Criminals should be used as cheap labour to make our products. They could be hired out to companies at less than the wage they would normally hire foreigners in sweatshops, and we could have some guilt-free Nikes. Do it up concentration camp style.
And who cares if the criminals don't necessarily feel punished? Guilt and remorse are highly overrated by our society. Remorse is important for the average person, and the good person, but that does not mean that someone cannot be productive without it. that makes a lot of sense to me!! but i cannt answer this..too many perspectives...some ppl dnt deserve to be alive...chuck them to the sharks...lifes a death penalty anyways..no imoni been stupid..i dont know i realy dont..whether it is a good thng or not!!! i havent got a clue!! |
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