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bender 05-08-2003 12:20 PM

Happy vs. Unhappy people
 
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sierra2774 05-08-2003 12:23 PM

Yes I have and unfortunately, I live with him, But not for long!

It is absolutely miserable and if people want to be that way, then fine let them, but they should all go away and leave the happy people alone!

drewg 05-08-2003 12:24 PM

Yes, I've come across people like that. Several times.

And I've also come across people who seem to be happy all the time.

Both kinds of people make me feel uneasy.

Sparky 05-08-2003 12:45 PM

Yeah, I've run across a few people like that. Too bad they have to live their entire lives with a boot up their ass. Life's too short.

Cynthetiq 05-08-2003 12:51 PM

there are some people who are just "wired" that way.

I encounter them from time to time.. then I take my happy ass somewhere else and get far away from the dude with the scribble over his head.

Mad_Gecko 05-08-2003 01:07 PM

Two words - "Shit Happens"
Its how you deal with it that matters.

If your too happy its almost overcompensation, and if your too miserable you can't deal with it...

Most people that know me would say I'm just a cunt, neither happy nor miserable, but a grade A bastard when I'm upset....

suviko 05-08-2003 01:08 PM

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koolaid 05-08-2003 02:29 PM

Bender I agree with you to an extent. You might be born bitter but you can put yourself in a positions to be happy every day. Most unhappy people I know bitch and bitch but never try to get out of their rut.

bender 05-08-2003 02:34 PM

I guess that its true when they say that its easier to bitch about something then try and do something about it.
But this guy is fricking miserable all of the time, if I come in early he's already pissed at something.
It's trully amazing to watch.

oane 05-08-2003 02:51 PM

Well, I think I am one of those usually unhappy people. I see people areound me living in similar if not more difficult conditions and they are happier, AFAIK.

ARTelevision 05-08-2003 03:35 PM

there is also clinical depression
we live in an age when these dysfunctions can be overcome

I'd go that route...things can improve

It's a constructive approach to the problem

G_Whiz 05-08-2003 03:42 PM

I have been around people who hit both ends of this spectrum. I have never been sure if it was a genetic trait or just the behaviours that they learned as they grew up.

I do know that they can be contagious. There have been several times at work where an always bitter person "poisoned" an entire workgroup. I also know a person right now who brings up the entire workgroup and everyone else who she works with.

Of course, when you have both types in the same workgroup anything might happen. Usually, the bitter person explodes all over everyone because the happy person drives them nuts.

Mael 05-08-2003 04:02 PM

i agree with whomever said that people who are constantly happy or sad give me the creeps. but i'm kinda stuck in the middle. i'm never really happy or sad, just "blah."

gibber71 05-08-2003 04:03 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sierra2774
[B]Yes I have and unfortunately, I live with him, But not for long!


I tip my hat to you. Life's about decisions and you sound confident.All the best.

jets 05-08-2003 06:29 PM

I read somewhere that if someone is happy all the time than they're probably crazy. I wonder if that holds water with always-unhappy people too?

greytone 05-08-2003 06:29 PM

I certainly that some people are generally happy and others are generally unhappy. Like so many traits, there is a bell curve and most fall somewhere in between.

One thing I am sure of, happiness is not a function of wealth. It usually is not a function of physical health either.

nefarious 05-08-2003 07:38 PM

i am quite a happy person myself ... my mother is the same ..
there are times when i get down ...

but literally 90% of the time .. i'm happy ...

rarely mad too .. part of my nature i guess ...

butthead 05-09-2003 12:13 AM

I'm closest to happy or normal two weeks out of the month when I go stay with friends.

The rest of my time is spent figuring out a way I can manage to kill myself (I'm not talking methods, I'm trying to find the will to succeed should an attempt be made), figuring out ways of alienating myself through observing the input of others when they deal with other people ("Man, that guy is fucking fat as hell," "Look at his face, he'll never find love."), and bitching about my problems when I am not paranoid of my friends or the people I am talking to.

Using the word "bitch" reminds me of the word "nagging" which reminds me of your stupid whiney bitch wife that cooks you dinner while you tell her to shut the fuck up while your fat slob ass sits on the couch watching his Monday Night Football. I don't want to be seen as a naggy wife, so internalization it is.

CSflim 05-09-2003 02:05 PM

I am that person, unfortunately.

HiThereDear 05-09-2003 04:42 PM

I used to be that person, and now I'm not. It just changed after growing up like that for almost 25 years. I started taking Prozac, and that didn't seem to do too much, although it did lessen how depressed I got at my lowest. Anyways, I sort of drifted off of taking it when I didn't really notice any benefit. This is after taking it for two months. Then, I got sick with something for a week. Some kind of stomach flu. Anyways, I lost about 10 lbs. and I looked great. And when I recovered, the reaction I got to the weightloss motivated me and I started eating healthy, exercising, and now I feel unbelievably good. I feel as good now as I felt bad then. Oh yeah, I had also quit smoking a few months before that.

Orodinn 05-09-2003 07:55 PM

I love happy people!

guthmund 05-10-2003 12:10 AM

Most unhappy people I know seem to find comfort in being unhappy. If you were to suddenly stick them with a happy needle they wouldn't know what the hell to do.

Some people wallow and relish in being miserable, they wouldn't know any other way of life.

bullgoose 05-10-2003 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CSflim
I am that person, unfortunately.
So am I; the biggest problem is, I know it, try to change it, and every time, I end up back on my ass. I met a great woman, she likes me, but she's involved, there I am back on my ass; I hate my job, I found one I really wanted, I was the second choice, back on my ass again. Being continually defeated is wearing me down; I hope nobody replies something like "Oh, just wait, things will get better". BULLSHIT! Some people are just destined to never have any joy in their life; I'm one of them.

viejo gringo 05-10-2003 05:54 AM

A lot of people do not realize that they are doing it---
they get into a rut, and it becomes normal for them...

I do this my self, at times, but I have a great partner
who calls it to my attention and tells me to "please change,
you are making everyone miseable"..and it works for me.

I even stopped cussing--most of the time...:D

Minx 05-10-2003 07:12 AM

My boss is this way, miserable all the time to most people. Yet, I remember when he wasn't that way so perhaps there is an underlying reason for his unhappiness that you don't know of. If you only see this person at work then you cannot be the judge of what type of personality he has at home or on the weekends. Don't get me wrong...I hate this type of person and I believe that you create your own happiness, it's just all in how you look at it. Have a positive approach to things and you will be a more positive and happy person. You have to take the bad with the good and roll with it. Find the silver lining...blah blah blah ginger. :)
Smile lots - you'll be amazed at how many people smile back.

rogue49 05-10-2003 07:22 AM

I'm a happy go lucky guy naturally, I like myself.

When I'm unhappy it's because of what others have done to me.

If noone is shitting on me, then whereever I go, there I am.
Now if I can just get rid of the assholes & flakes of the world...hmm.

butthead 05-10-2003 08:03 AM

Quote:

"please change,
you are making everyone miseable"..and it works for me.
When people say this to me it reinforces the belief that all I do is hurt others. I no longer believe past instances in which I have brought others great joy.

bullgoose 05-10-2003 08:14 AM

Maybe someone should point out that unhappy people don't want to be that way, usually it's circumstances that make them unhappy; as I said in my earlier post, when you try to be happy, but you're continually defeated, you do have a tendancy to become resentful; I can't remember the last time I was happy or content, I've become bitter and disillusioned and I don't believe that I will ever have the opportunity to change that. Maybe it's my lot in life; perhaps I'm miserable so someone else can be happy; sort of a yin/yang thing.

Minx 05-10-2003 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rogue49
I'm a happy go lucky guy naturally, I like myself.

When I'm unhappy it's because of what others have done to me.

If noone is shitting on me, then whereever I go, there I am.
Now if I can just get rid of the assholes & flakes of the world...hmm.

:) When you figure out a way to get rid of the assholes and flakes please let me in on it!

suviko 05-10-2003 10:32 PM

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bullgoose 05-11-2003 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by suviko
Minx:

Buy a few big nukes from ex-Soviet nations. Blow up the whole Earth. All the nice people will go with it too, but that's justifiable casualties. :)

bullgoose:

Atleast I don't mean depressed people, I mean the ones who always whine. If it's sunny outside and the birds are singing, they complain it's too hot. It's about the way you see the world. I have been a pessimistic whiner most of my life. The thing that I learnt during the way was that you gotta get rid of people who have the same behaviour pattern and start mingling with normal or happy people. I had a crappy childhood. I had even crappier teens! I hate myself for whining so I skip it. :) I couldn't change my attitude conciously, but I could do real alterations in my life that affected my mood. 1) Get rid of assholes that bring you down. 2) Start doing something about stuff that makes you unhappy. Not all of 'em at the same time, just start somewhere. 3) If you are depressed and not a whiner, you might get help from going to the shrink or taking some pill from a bottle. That's not a loser's way. Some people's neuroshit makes them unable to be happy, and that has to be fixed before anything else can be reached.

Now prove me you are not a total asshole and don't shoot down all my suggestions! :)

Your suggestions are all good, I'm basically an optimist, Believe it or not, but at my age (56) I expect some sign that I'll experience joy in my life, and I just don't see it coming; I'm having a tough time right now, lots of dissappointments both professionally and personally; you can't maintain an optimistic attitude if everything you try fails, but I keep trying; nothing ventured, nothing gained, right?

Fly 05-11-2003 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rogue49
I'm a happy go lucky guy naturally, I like myself.

When I'm unhappy it's because of what others have done to me.

If noone is shitting on me, then whereever I go, there I am.
Now if I can just get rid of the assholes & flakes of the world...hmm.

feel the same way.

*too many moody people in the world*

flip that frown upside down and turn it into a SMILE......(for fuck's sakes)

3leggedfrog 05-25-2003 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Minx
Smile lots - you'll be amazed at how many people smile back.
ok i am studing psychology in college and well there is a lot i could say on this topic but... well maybe latter when i am not so tired.

as an experment i did for class i went around for two whole weeks with a smile fixed to my face feeling like an idiot. i kept a journal of my thoughts and behaviors and at the end of the week i found that i was really happier than i was before the experment. also the people around me were generally happier than before.

so the cheerleader is right *froggy gashes his teeth together and smiles*

scarebearjinx 05-26-2003 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sierra2774
Yes I have and unfortunately, I live with him, But not for long!

It is absolutely miserable and if people want to be that way, then fine let them, but they should all go away and leave the happy people alone!

i disagree to some sense there. what would happen to some of those happy people if they went sad for along time, and it was someone close to you? or what about the sad ones that might turn happy? yes, sad people are depressing and can ruin a mood, and maybe there is a logical reason for them being sad, but it's up to you if you let them. i'm a happy person, but i'm also sad and depressed alot as well. usually if i'm happy, i'm kinda off the walls or hanging out with my friends, or doing something i like. but if i'm depressed, i go curl up into a little ball and just stay away from everyone. i think that if alot of people are just sad enough, or whatever, they will stay away from people as much as they can so they can be alone; atleast thats what i feel like sometimes.

sometimes i can't help it and i don't know why i get like i do, but i do. and i'm thankful that i have caring enough friends that will come to me of their own free will to try to help me out of whatever it is that has me feeling the way i do. sometimes people do need other people to come to them because they don't want to feel like a bother to the other.

Pilgrim 05-26-2003 09:33 PM

I choose to be happy therefore I am!

duckznutz 05-27-2003 05:16 AM

Want happiness? Save your money. Dont get therapy, its easy : -

1 - Clear your conscience . . tell your wife you 'enjoy' the TFP!
2 - Eat properly. It makes a huge difference.
3 - Exercise!
4 - Develop a social life (ie friends).

And heres a good tip . . . . . . . . . . many years ago I developed the notion of an 'anti-depression checklist' which contains a list of all the self-indulgant things which I know will make me ecstatic.

Feeling blue? . . . whip out your anti-depressant checklist.

3leggedfrog 05-27-2003 11:35 AM

Here is a psychological tool to feel happier at least temporaly. this is going to sound stupid but it really works.
Get a piece of paper and write down simple pausitive 15 sentences with no sarcasim. sentences like I am a great person or my freinds really like me. then get up and walk away for at least 5 min. then come back with a peice of bright colored paper white will do in a pinch and read each sentence one at a time without looking at the next sentence. spend 1 min on each question repeating the sentance in your mind over and over. it should take about 15mins but you will notice that your attitude will change

yea i know it sounds stupid but psychologist use this technique to alter a persons mood when they are doing some experments.
but be careful of what you write because the you can make yourself even more depressed if you write the wornge questions.

madsenj37 05-27-2003 10:09 PM

i used to be that guy until my doctor gave me uppers. Now im only sometimes that guy.

madsenj37 05-27-2003 10:15 PM

And just as a reference: Unhappy people dont like to be told to cheer up. It makes them more unhappy. Do something to cheer them up without letting them know you think they are unhappy.


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