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Jay Francis 02-17-2004 04:44 PM

Two must read books for your collection, both by Randel Helms (professor of history at Brigham Young, I believe):

Gospel Fictions
Who Wrote The Gospels?

jelectric 02-18-2004 05:30 AM

You said the bible is full of contradictions? Where are they? I have heard people say this before but not really be able to give me any. Many people have set out to disprove the bible and as a result came to faith. I really havent seen contradictions. I would be intrested in hearing what you believe to be contradictions.

shakran 02-18-2004 09:41 AM

in Ecclesiastes it says "the earth abideth forever."

In Peter it says " the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."


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Exodus tells us about the "eye for an eye" principle, yet Matthew tells us to turn the other cheek.

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Deuteronomy and Leviticus both say it's wicked to practice incest, yet Genesis tells of Abraham marrying his sister, God liking the arrangement, and blessing them with a kid.

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In Exodus, God says "I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation" yet in Ezekiel we learn that "the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father."

There are more, but I'm tired of typing ;)

heyhey 02-20-2004 05:00 AM

someone's right...and we'll all find out soon enough. if the second coming is true--watch out!

thingstodo 02-20-2004 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mojo_PeiPei
I'd say that if it weren't for the bible women of today would be in a completely different and worse situation.
I don't get how women would be in a different shape today without the bible. Looks like it messed them up pretty good. They went from a pedastle to the floor.


Quote:

Originally posted by chavos
i disagree...while i will admit i have not read it, i base my objections upon those of members of the scholarly community-men and women who have spent their careers studying the texts and performing exegetical work. the collective conclusion, is that the code is a bunch of hooey. its not based in scholarly research, and entertains conjecture freely. again...the value of the work depends on one's taste in fiction.
I you haven't read the book you have very little to offer but your own sermon!

Also, the book starts with a statement to the effect that this is fiction but the facts are accurate.

thingstodo 02-20-2004 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jelectric
You said the bible is full of contradictions? Where are they? I have heard people say this before but not really be able to give me any. Many people have set out to disprove the bible and as a result came to faith. I really havent seen contradictions. I would be intrested in hearing what you believe to be contradictions.
The bible is nothing if not continuous contradictions. Do some research and stop asking "people."

jelectric 02-21-2004 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thingstodo
The bible is nothing if not continuous contradictions. Do some research and stop asking "people."


Please you tell me once again its full of continous contradictions. Tell me if its one after another then why has it been the greates book seller of all time. I mean almost eveyhouse in atleast the united states have atleast one. If it were nealry as bad as you make it out to be. It wouldnt be this way


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