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seretogis 08-02-2003 09:58 AM

Would you press the Big Red Button?
 
Hypothetically, if there were a Big Red Button which would instantly wipe out the human race, would you press it?

I would. Humans are by far the most brutal and wasteful animal on the planet, and Earth would be better off without us. We've lost touch with our own nature, and do more harm than good to ourselves and everything around us.

CSflim 08-02-2003 10:48 AM

I would push it when I was on my deathbed!

tinfoil 08-02-2003 11:03 AM

Better the evil you know than the one you don't?

Who's to say that something far worse wouldn't grow occupy the space we once occupied ourselvs?

Stare At The Sun 08-02-2003 11:12 AM

^^ im reminded of the time machine, i would not press it. I am quite the optimist, and i see us being a very productive race, so long as we survive for the next 200 years or so..

Rodney 08-02-2003 01:07 PM

We're inherently neither more nor less virtuous than any other creature on the face of the earth. We simply have more power. Figuring out how to handle that power is our next evolutionary step as a species. We may not succeed, but if we do the future may be spectacular both for us and the other species of this world.

Katyblu 08-02-2003 02:01 PM

I wouldn't press the big button but I pray for a plague to wipe out 2/3 of the human race.... then we could start over.

Halx 08-02-2003 02:30 PM

I kinda like a few things about life and I'm too selfish to end it.

lurkette 08-02-2003 02:58 PM

I don't think I have enough confidence in the complete irredeemability (?) of the human race to push the button. Nature has a way of finding its own equilibrium (plagues, natural disasters, drough, famine), and if we don't temper our actions accordingly we'll eventually be weeded out.

seretogis 08-02-2003 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rodney
We're inherently neither more nor less virtuous than any other creature on the face of the earth. We simply have more power. Figuring out how to handle that power is our next evolutionary step as a species. We may not succeed, but if we do the future may be spectacular both for us and the other species of this world.
I don't believe any animal but humans kill for pleasure, and not survival.

TheKak 08-02-2003 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by seretogis
I don't believe any animal but humans kill for pleasure, and not survival.
Ever seen a cat kill a mouse, even when it doesnt want to eat it?

spectre 08-02-2003 03:51 PM

No, I wouldn't. Even with the reasons given, I can't justify genocide.

ARTelevision 08-02-2003 03:54 PM

doesn't make much sense to give the ego that much energy, so no....

CAN_skate 08-02-2003 03:59 PM

I might, depends on what's been going on, I'm sure anyone who has kids wouldn't, but if I just watched some TV special on some dumb shit humans have done I just might.
And I'd try to do it with syle.

lurkette 08-02-2003 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by seretogis
I don't believe any animal but humans kill for pleasure, and not survival.
I think there are some other primates - I think chimpanzees - who actually do kill other chimpanzees for no apparent reason - they wage war on other "tribes" of chimps, not defensively but just because. Not that it really matters or detracts from humankind's own brand of barbarism.

phukraut 08-02-2003 09:28 PM

we already have horrible diseases, mass starvation, wars and genocide, and natural death. i say we don't need a big red button, we're doing ok with the dying as it is.

crow_daw 08-02-2003 11:25 PM

Hell, at this rate, it seems we'll wipe ourselves out before too awful long anyway, so whats the point?

maxero 08-03-2003 12:36 AM

cats in my neighborhood leave headless birds on lawns ;/

MuadDib 08-03-2003 12:39 AM

I agree with your idea that the human race is brutal and in general out of place in this universe, but I don't agree with the conclusion that you should then press the button.

That conclusion exemplifies all the greatest problems with humanity in the first place. The need to take matters into our own hands, the tendency towards irreversible and final solutions, the desire to eliminate instead of understand, the list goes on and on. Maybe we need to start looking at how to take our equal place in the universe instead of having these all or nothing, make or break, do or die, out looks on life.

cliche 08-03-2003 01:12 AM

Maybe you should hover with your hand over it and threaten to press it unless people start behaving a bit better (OK I'd imagine you'd have to define this a bit more accurately when the entire fate of the human race depends on it!)

maxero 08-03-2003 01:34 AM

if you threatened to push it youd probably be assassinated.
then in an ironic twist, one of your assailants would suddenly develope some sort of complex in which they feel urges to press red buttons.

auswegian 08-03-2003 07:40 AM

I wouldn't. There's a lot we as a species should regret, but too destroy ourselves would be pointless. In nature, species compete with each other, and species get wiped out. It happens. We're using our trump card (intelligence) to our maximum advantage, spreading and propagating and outcompeting everything. We are recreating the Earth, just like oxygen-breathing life forms, multi-cellular life and vertebrates did before us. We are being true to our nature.

If you gave ants, for example, fire and metal tools, you think they wouldn't sweep across the world and turn it into an ant playground? Of course they would, any species with such an advantage would make as much use of it as they possibly could.

We aren't out of place, or unnatural. We're just winning. We're the Earth's best hope to propagate Earthly life throughout the universe, so its in Her best interest that we survive.

TheKak 08-03-2003 09:53 AM

Humans have only been around for the blink of an eye anyway, and though we like the think that we may have some impact on the "big picture" of things in the universe, eventually we will be wiped out and replaced, just as its always happened.

mingusfingers 08-03-2003 05:26 PM

I don't think so...couldn't bring myself to do it.

Jonsgirl 08-03-2003 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by lurkette
Nature has a way of finding its own equilibrium (plagues, natural disasters, drough, famine),
you mean like those forest fires we keep putting out, and those diseases we keep curing?
Yeah, I'd push the button. Besides, nuclear winter should be really pretty.

XenuHubbard 08-03-2003 08:43 PM

I meet more nice people each day, than people I would like to see dead.

To push that button would be nothing but intellectual masturbation with a God complex.

You want the world to end? Off yourself. No need to bring me into it. Or the nice lady in the breakfast shop. Or the doorguard who always waves at me. Or my wife. Or the kids in the kindergarten I used to work for.

Marburg 08-03-2003 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CAN_skate
And I'd try to do it with syle.
*Laughs*

I would love to be there. Just to see how someone goes about pushing a button with style.

I'm sure the putting on of black sunglasses would be involved somehow....

zenmaster10665 08-04-2003 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XenuHubbard
I meet more nice people each day, than people I would like to see dead.

To push that button would be nothing but intellectual masturbation with a God complex.

You want the world to end? Off yourself. No need to bring me into it. Or the nice lady in the breakfast shop. Or the doorguard who always waves at me. Or my wife. Or the kids in the kindergarten I used to work for.

Well said...

I would destroy the button.

32v4c 08-07-2003 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by seretogis
I don't believe any animal but humans kill for pleasure, and not survival.
Ok. You're right, butI don't believe any other animal creates art, or medicine, or protects the weak among it out of ideas of justice...

And really, is anyone so arrogant to believe he knows the true heart of every human being on earth well enough to wipe them out like a bunch of ants?

The concept itself reeks of "killing for pleasure"

CSflim 08-07-2003 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by seretogis
I don't believe any animal but humans kill for pleasure, and not survival.
That is because of agriculture. We no longer NEED to kill for survival, but we still have an engrained "want" to kill. Put a tiger in a cage with more deer than he can ever eat. Do you think that he is only going to kill as many deer as is strictly necessary for his survival?

hobo 08-10-2003 08:26 PM

I would press it. Why? Because Jesus is supposed to return and do his thing before humanity can be wiped out. So if I can press it then God don't exist, and I die knowing the answer to that question. If he does come and do his thing, then I just proved a buncha people right. Not like anyone can care if everyone is wiped out instantly.

bobbles 08-10-2003 10:00 PM

I'd press it.

Why not?

The_Dude 08-10-2003 10:41 PM

i wouldnt. i just dont know why i wouldnt.

jwoody 08-11-2003 03:58 AM

I'm sure I'd press it, especially if it had a 'do not press' sticker on it.

Nefir 08-11-2003 05:33 AM

To everyone who'd press the button - you are still very human. You are part of the problem. Should you really be entrusted with such power, if you don't even trust yourself and those like you enough to continue existance?

kalisto_911 08-11-2003 08:14 AM

We would just have to start all over again, kinda a step backwards don't ya think?

Beltruckus 08-11-2003 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by seretogis
I don't believe any animal but humans kill for pleasure, and not survival.
Please, Lions do not need to kill Cheetahs for survival, Nor do dogs need to kill other dogs, like they did to my dads sisters when she was little. That is the biggest crock of a statement i've ever heard.

CSflim 08-11-2003 03:31 PM

Wow seretogis, five independant rebutals! Thats gotta be like... a world record or something! ;)

Tonic 08-11-2003 08:13 PM

I hate it when people make certain claims about 'human nature'. That we're endlessly evil, cruel, greedy, wasteful. That it's somehow in our mandate to build big cities and crush all the cute little harmless animals that wouldn't hurt a fly! Awwwww, look at da little aminals!

HeadyIncognito 08-11-2003 08:16 PM

I’m an example. I’m no hero of the great, intelligent, magnificent, human race.

Jonsgirl 08-12-2003 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nefir
To everyone who'd press the button - you are still very human. You are part of the problem. Should you really be entrusted with such power, if you don't even trust yourself and those like you enough to continue existance?
Well, good thing that neither me nor any other individual human has that power, eh? And don't think for a minute that you're not part of the problem either. You eat, breath, and shit like the rest of us. Besides it's really a choice between a slow and painful death of humanity and our planet or one fell swoop.


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