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skizziks 10-04-2008 08:41 PM

Awareness and The 4 realms
 
Years ago, I did the Tom Brown Tracker School. Going through some old shit, I found my notebook from it, and in my notes I found something I'd like to share about awareness.

For those who don't know, Tom Brown is this guy who, as a child, befriended an old Lipin Apache, one of the last Lipin Apache's, I think, who taught him all this stuff. The old guy is referred to as Grandfather. So, in my notes, when I say "grandfather said..." I am talking about the old Apache.

here it is, I'd like to know what you think:


The most critical off all skills is awareness, it is the doorway to the spirit. Humankind lives wihtin 4 worlds. To visualize this, think of a target with a thick bullseye, surrounded by 3 circles. Humankind lives in these 4 realms, but mostly in the center, never venturing out. The worlds are separated by veils, permeable, easily obtained. Within each world are 3 different areas, steps, thinner veils. The center world is where humankind lives today, grandfather calls it "land of the living dead." There is a greater world, a land where the spirit moves through all things. Humans are in "coffins of flesh."

Grandfather said, "man is like a sphere within spheres, an island. Man is separated from the other worlds by his beliefs, his mind. Men created a prison made of doubt, logic, and belief. [Tom had a student who did extensive research on bio-feedback and sold Tom on the idea. Tom did a lot of reading, studying, and testing of the theory and realized all the spritual things grandfather talked about were the same as biofeedback.]

You are not what you eat, you are what you think. We operate in "Beta," the lowest potential of awareness, the lowest potential to learn, the body is unable to heal, physical performance is impaired. At "Alpha," you are at the highest physical potential for learning and awareness. Solitude breeds "alpha." Solitude is an almost redundant characteristic in great authors, poets, and artists.

Meditation today is useless, it is spiritual masturbation. the "sacred silence" is how to get to Alpha.


The notes go on to explain that to get to alpha, you have to do what's called "foxwalk" where you walk slowly, your heel touching the toe of the first foot down, palms out, and you use "wide angle vision," meaning you start with a focus in tunnel vision, then you relax and slowly "open your vision," looking in the distance and actually using your peripheral vision as much as possible. Wide angle vision is looking past natural focus points, seeing as much as you can take in. Apparently, within 4 minutes of Foxwalk, you start to enter Alpha.


Sorry its a bit sketchy, I had to decipher my notes, the classes were all oral, we sat there writing like fiends, taking notes as fast and as accurate as possible.

It's an interesting concept, I just wanted to share it.

Zeraph 10-05-2008 09:32 AM

I was with you until the last bit about foxwalk being the only way and meditation not working. We all take different paths to the same goal.

skizziks 10-05-2008 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeraph (Post 2538962)
I was with you until the last bit about foxwalk being the only way and meditation not working. We all take different paths to the same goal.

His words, not mine. I agree there are other ways, I was just relaying what I was told.

tiberry 10-09-2008 03:57 PM

Point of order - I read this post after my post on 'awareness'...weird! :oogle:

Master_Shake 10-13-2008 06:21 AM

Quote:

Man is separated from the other worlds by his beliefs, his mind. Men created a prison made of doubt, logic, and belief.
Sounds pretty fishy to me.

murp0434 10-24-2008 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by skizziks (Post 2539045)
His words, not mine. I agree there are other ways, I was just relaying what I was told.

Don't use that cop-out as a way to back out of what you have put forth. It is an interesting theory and one with which I'm not familiar. I'd be interested in learning more ...do you know anything else about where the theory came from or more about what the different spheres are? ...?

skizziks 10-25-2008 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by murp0434 (Post 2550248)
Don't use that cop-out as a way to back out of what you have put forth. It is an interesting theory and one with which I'm not familiar. I'd be interested in learning more ...do you know anything else about where the theory came from or more about what the different spheres are? ...?

Its not a cop out. As I said originally, this came from notes I took on a lecture. Everything he said is what I wrote. I donīt have any more information on the subject.

curiousbear 10-25-2008 06:52 PM

Ignorance is Bliss!

undtektid 11-21-2008 09:10 PM

Tom Browns tracker school is worth the visit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skizziks (Post 2539045)
His words, not mine. I agree there are other ways, I was just relaying what I was told.

Skizzits it may be time to brush up on your skills my friend I know I need to in this day:)

I found this forum by accident misspelling lipan apache as (lipin)on a google search.
I noticed the first link said something about Tom Brown so i had to register just to set the record straight here.

I also took the the first course in NJ of the 23 courses or so available at the time. 5/20-26/1996.

I think what Tom Brown may have more likely said is that fox walk is one of the fastest ways to get there. I will say however he did mention the military survival skills were a joke compared to the lipan apache....he was basicly a modern day lipan apache!

(note that the class is verbal and to take full notes is very hard most people record at the class as well)

I will also tell you the first time he walked in the classroom which was a barn, the hairs on my neck were at full attention...this guy is no joke!!!

I also remember the end of the week ceremony were we prepared a huge meal from fresh fish cought in the stream and natural herbs and plants we used to cook with. There were about 70 people in the class and we all broke off into groups to gather something different for the big supper.

The spiritual ceremony itself was of lipan apache origin....the spirit was summoned and some people had visual reconnections with lost ones...and they said so after words...
It was very serious and felt so...I was still lost in my fog back then so I didn't make any contacts but something else happend to me...

After the ceremony I accidentaly tested the boundries of the area physicaly. We were told after the ceremony to just relax as long as we saw fit and then when ready, to open are eyes and go ahead and just take a stroll on the property(acres) and find a spot to be with ourselves for a bit before we retired for the night.

Well I ended up strolling out towards the front of the property where the woods clear and you can see the road. So I got about half way out the drive way not really paying attention to where I was going. For some reason at that point in the driveway I did an about face but sort of not under my full control if your with me here.

So the next day my mother came and picked me up because you can't park there and also you have to call the school from a certain phone a few miles away to get directions in. So I was describing that situation to my mother.

She said "oh well yeah there is a big protective dome around this place I could feel it when I dropped you off. It was a little ways into the drive way. I knew at that point for sure this was a good place for you"

My mother was a teacher at the first Silva Mind Method school in Texas.

Tom Browns standard survival course as it is named is far far from standard:)

The tracking system alone is a thing of beauty (we learned how to read tracks in the dust)...and Tom has also done work helping the authorities find lost people in the woods...back then it was somewhere around 700!!

One of the other stunning things that happened was one of his helpers or teachers at the school told me that something big was going to happen in the next few years after I had asked if (in short) "will our skills ever be tested" I now know he was talking about 911 and the coming days ahead of us.

yeah the real deal for sure and my first push toward my path ( Thanks Tom ).....google Tom Brown to learn more. :thumbsup:


Peace Always..

undtektid


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