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Old 06-12-2008, 08:27 AM   #121 (permalink)
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..... Fannie Mae was above us, ....
Who's she?

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Old 06-12-2008, 08:32 AM   #122 (permalink)
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:21 AM   #123 (permalink)
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yeah, I'll blend right in!

I wouldn't speak a word though, I'd act mute.
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:13 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Without an advanced education in temporal causality (something not even taught yet), no one has the intellectual ability to effect the past with any certainty of positive result in the present.
so what we really need is for anyone transported to the past to first to be transported to the future, where star fleet academy already exists, take a class on temporal causality, and then head to the past. that way no one mistakes stopping the plauge in teh 1300's is a good thing. star trek and history channel ftw?
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Old 06-12-2008, 01:45 PM   #125 (permalink)
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In case they shoot back?
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Old 06-12-2008, 01:53 PM   #126 (permalink)
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Gotta protect myself from the arrows.

I also figure I would need a full body motorcycle armor with a scary looking helmet. That ought to strike fear into the hearts of the wicked...and everybody else.

Something like this:



with this:



and this:



I mean, I could look like this, but it wouldn't be comfortable on the dirt bike.



Though it might fit in a little better with the time period.
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Old 06-13-2008, 04:32 AM   #127 (permalink)
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Without an advanced education in temporal causality (something not even taught yet), no one has the intellectual ability to effect the past with any certainty of positive result in the present.
You don't need an advanced education in temporal causality (taught at Star Fleet Academy) to realize that the grandfather effect is a constant threat involved in Time Travel. Anyone with the ability to travel into the past could conceivable kill their own grandfather before they were ever born, and would then have never existed. If they never existed how could they have killed their own grandfather??? Temporal Paradox 101.

I was only teasing you will because you went from changing the world for the better, which is totally uncertain as you have said, to living alone in the woods. Good to see you've rethought your position.


I just saw Harry's post, great minds think alike!
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Old 06-13-2008, 08:07 AM   #128 (permalink)
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Old 06-13-2008, 09:46 AM   #129 (permalink)
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:53 PM   #130 (permalink)
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Actually, this here is an excerpt from a book that would prove quite resourceful to the time. It's from The Domesday Book by William the Conqueror. It's a census and survey of English landowners made at around 1086. It was basically a "who owns what." Might prove useful if you go to that time in England.

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Old 06-13-2008, 04:25 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Useful for targeting for theft. I wonder how the medieval armies would stand up to a fully armed and armored Hummer...
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Old 06-13-2008, 08:32 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Useful for targeting for theft. I wonder how the medieval armies would stand up to a fully armed and armored Hummer...
With the number of horses that William the Conqueror brought to England from Nomandy in the Battle of Hastings, and that his knights numbered 5,000, my guess is maybe not too poorly.
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Old 06-13-2008, 08:42 PM   #133 (permalink)
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Nothing a few well placed claymores and well thrown grenades couldn't help with...

If anything, there's always a speedy retreat.

Now this got me thinking of something else. Say I get transported and bring all the crap I posted earlier with me. Also, say somebody jacked it all and brought it before the greatest minds of that time. Could they possibly reverse engineer it and create their own weapons? And if they could, how would that change history?
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Old 06-13-2008, 09:12 PM   #134 (permalink)
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Now this got me thinking of something else. Say I get transported and bring all the crap I posted earlier with me. Also, say somebody jacked it all and brought it before the greatest minds of that time. Could they possibly reverse engineer it and create their own weapons? And if they could, how would that change history?
Not by much, I don't think. The Britons didn't really know how to make and use gunpowder until the 13th century. They might get some ideas, but they simply wouldn't have the technology.
We can, with saltpeter and other substances, compose artificially a fire that can be launched over long distances... By only using a very small quantity of this material much light can be created accompanied by a horrible fracas. It is possible with it to destroy a town or an army ... In order to produce this artificial lightning and thunder it is necessary to take saltpeter, sulfur, and Luru Vopo Vir Can Utriet.
-Roger Bacon, circa 1248-1257
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Old 06-15-2008, 10:41 AM   #135 (permalink)
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Baraka, that's a GREAT quote. I like that a lot.
I wonder what they would have thought had they been told that gunpowder was invented by the Chinese.
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:08 AM   #136 (permalink)
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Baraka, that's a GREAT quote. I like that a lot.
I wonder what they would have thought had they been told that gunpowder was invented by the Chinese.
I think at that time, many of them would have asked who or what are the Chinese.
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Old 06-15-2008, 12:51 PM   #137 (permalink)
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its is kind of a bit off topic, but on topic really lol

has anyone see the altoids commercial where the guy is in olden times talking about doing morse code (but not calling it that) and they accuse him of being a witch and haul him off?
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Old 06-29-2008, 07:05 AM   #138 (permalink)
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More to the point, in the year 1008 - er, I mean, MVIII - did they have baseball? beer? hot dogs? talk about the need for extreme survival skills if they didn't..!!
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Old 06-29-2008, 07:29 AM   #139 (permalink)
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Actually, this here is an excerpt from a book that would prove quite resourceful to the time. It's from The Domesday Book by William the Conqueror. It's a census and survey of English landowners made at around 1086. It was basically a "who owns what." Might prove useful if you go to that time in England.

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Old 06-29-2008, 07:34 AM   #140 (permalink)
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I doubt a form of baseball existed. But you had wrestling, tournaments, and hunting. Sausages and beer. Not too bad. Maybe even more fun.

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Nerd.
I probably shouldn't tell you I understand it, could read it aloud with reasonable accuracy of pronunciation, and could translate it to contemporary English?
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Old 06-29-2008, 07:59 AM   #141 (permalink)
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I doubt a form of baseball existed. But you had wrestling, tournaments, and hunting. Sausages and beer.
A non-carbonated beer!

Baseball's ancestor didn't appear until the 14th century and was called Stoolball. Don't ask what they were throwing....
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Old 06-29-2008, 08:04 AM   #142 (permalink)
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A non-carbonated beer!
It was better than drinking the water (wild cows), and it was normal to have it for breakfast.

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Why not? What were they throwing? Bar stools?
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Old 06-29-2008, 08:08 AM   #143 (permalink)
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It was better than drinking the water (wild cows), and it was normal to have it for breakfast.

Why not? What were they throwing? Bar stools?
Close. It was a game played by milkmaids. They used their milk stools as wickets.
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Old 06-29-2008, 02:16 PM   #144 (permalink)
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actually, from what I understand, those who drank beer rather than water during the Black Death managed not to get sick. Of course that was more than 300 years after MVIII.
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