Tec wanted to know how ID could be feasibly taught in science classes. Frankly, I have no idea how they'd do it without the Bible. My point was in supporting Tec's question by trying to point out that, in my view, that teaching ID in science class is about the most absurd idea imaginable.

ID is why this discussion is going on.

(God made me post this)

....uh....she just told me you misunderstood her. what she actually said was:

"Show me YOUR post"

ID didn't happen.
Teaching it to our offspring is a bad idea.
The universe is what we live in, but personalizing it kills people.
I love you.

I find it really too bad that the very simple reductionist notion that consciousness (intelligence) is an obvious component of the universe and that this fact is all that's needed to posit that one component of the universe is consciousness (intelligence).

Accepting this simple notion does allow one to seriously consider and investigate the evidently problematic idea of an intelligent universe.

Well, I think the reason that the discussion has drifted is that the original question is practically rhetorical. We know that nothing positive comes from telling people that dinosaurs are, at most, six thousand years old, and that God carved the Grand Canyon with His hand in the matter of a day or two. We know that Fundamentalism is creeping into our schools and assaulting reason because the dwindling power base is desperate but still powerful in pockets around the nation.

In the end, I think it is a political consideration of people who want the masses to stoically persevere through God's challenges and go to heaven for their troubles, rather than valuing the here-and-now and demanding change to makes things better for them and their children.

Call me cynical. But I've always seen our public K-18 program to be more of an indoctrination than an education to begin with. This ID business is just the gravy.

I'm not so sure teachers have much say on what they teach.

These decisions are left up to the board of education

What area do they teach ID in schools anyways? It can't possibly go in science, as that breaks the fundamentals science is based upon.

so... history? :)

maybe social studies :)

I'm a little confused by Penn & Teller's stance, their for Intelligent Design? Did I read that right?

Against.

ID is silly... but I'm about as religious as a Pez dispenser.

So, yeah... ID is silly... unless MacGyver is involved.