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Ourcrazymodern? · 02-14-2008, 06:00 PM

"Human" is just a term we use to flatter ourselves while we're trapped here. One reality transcends; the other is.

IOW: Our words mean little enough; our being is what matters. Humanity is self-absorbed.

Plan9 · 02-14-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by prosequence

No longer human? Right after you die would be my answer. Then you're just a mass of cells no different than the bugs having you for buffet.

But I'm a mass of cells no different than the bugs even while I'm alive!

*cues up music*

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Originally Posted by The Vladimirs

Carve on your smile and be on your way
It's a guarantee you won't enjoy your stay here
Welcome to the place where no one cares
Look around quickly you ain't got much time
Just empty your pockets, get in back of the line
You'll find that no one here cares what you think
They'll pump you with poison then bleed you dry
You're living for them now until the day that you die
You came here with nothing so nothing is what you'll be
You're just a number, Forget your name
It's a guarantee you won't enjoy your stay here
Welcome to the place where no one cares
Cut off your eyelids, There's no time to sleep
Forget about your loved ones 'cuz they'll never be seen
There's no better days, Let go of your dreams
Those before you suffered this way
And those who'll come after will suffer the same
There's no getting out of this age old game
Where you give your life for nothing less
Than slave wages and a life in debt
Where you sell your soul for nothing more
Than a pile of ashes and a hole in the floor!

Mantus · 02-14-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ourcrazymodern?

IOW: Our words mean little enough; our being is what matters. Humanity is self-absorbed.

Great words!

Not sure what you mean by "trapped" in your earlier statement, or in fact, the whole statement. The second one rings very true to me though!

Ourcrazymodern? · 02-21-2008, 08:53 PM

We are trying to transcend.

The point at which we are "no longer human" isn't likely to come clear to us until we are not.

wheelhomies · 03-01-2008, 08:41 PM

the answer to the op depends on how you define humanity. for me it is much more than this anatomy.

lostaxe · 03-05-2008, 10:36 PM

Right... if being human is simple anatomy... then the answer is the same regardless of what organism you plug into the question. "When is a dog no longer a dog?", "When is a tree no longer a tree?"

It may help to ask when we think we became "human". For instance, were Neanderthal's human?

02-14-2008, 06:00 PM	#41 (permalink)
Ourcrazymodern? still, wondering. Location: South Minneapolis, somewhere near the gorgeous gorge	"Human" is just a term we use to flatter ourselves while we're trapped here. One reality transcends; the other is. IOW: Our words mean little enough; our being is what matters. Humanity is self-absorbed. __________________ BE JUST AND FEAR NOT

02-21-2008, 08:53 PM	#44 (permalink)
Ourcrazymodern? still, wondering. Location: South Minneapolis, somewhere near the gorgeous gorge	We are trying to transcend. The point at which we are "no longer human" isn't likely to come clear to us until we are not. __________________ BE JUST AND FEAR NOT

03-01-2008, 08:41 PM	#45 (permalink)
wheelhomies Upright Location: New York	the answer to the op depends on how you define humanity. for me it is much more than this anatomy. __________________ "All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity. But the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams with open eyes to make it possible." - T.E. Lawrence

03-05-2008, 10:36 PM	#46 (permalink)
lostaxe Upright	Right... if being human is simple anatomy... then the answer is the same regardless of what organism you plug into the question. "When is a dog no longer a dog?", "When is a tree no longer a tree?" It may help to ask when we think we became "human". For instance, were Neanderthal's human?