some how i have proof of a ghost.. read
 

Ok granted this happened a few years ago..

our best friend was staying with us when the call came in his soon to be ex let the house catch on fire. Little billy died in this fire. I can never tell you or explain the grief that comes with the fact of having to put a friends child in the dark cold ground while my children are safe. That will live with me all my life

the local newspaper took a photo the next day... several people stated for fact that there were no children allowed in or around the remains of the house.. I'm the type that believes only angles and demons walk this earth.. that there arent spectors of little "timmy" running around helping the world..

yet this photo.. this fucking photo just rips at me.. i cant figure it out.. yet you decide. Granted ive been wanting to do this since i got on TFP but couldnt now i can.

just be patience till i can edit it and all will be two or three pics so far.. still tring to understand imageshack.

ok this is the frist photo look above the guy that is bent over.. right above his head in the wall of the house. holy shit that is creepy.. and it kinda looks like billy..

http://img3.exs.cx/img3/4291/fire19.jpg


here is a close up as best i can


http://img72.exs.cx/img72/9623/secondview.jpg

now you tell me what it is.. cuz we were there that day no kids were there..
to this day i still cant console our friend on this pic he saw
help?

Pretty creepy, dude. I doubt it's a ghost, though. Probably more like a tea kettle sitting on it's side with a piece of curtain over the top of it, or something like that.

yeah i want to belive that .. but being there and knowing at that angle there is nothing there at the time of the shoot.. heh lots of "paranormal experts" say a camera can pick up with the naked eye misses

I took your image and cropped and enlarged it, then increased the saturation by about 80%. Here is what I wound up with:

<img src="http://telusplanet.net/public/markus_e/images/noboy.jpg">

I will admit that it "kinda" looks like a boy, but it looks more like a strange combination of shadows. Look at the part in the "boy's" hair, it's too lopsided to be attached to his head. Plus the distance from his eyes to his hair line is the same as the distance of his eyes to his chin.

My verdict, no ghost.

I've made some big assumptions here but the object appears to have similar proportions to an average child.

http://tinypic.com/atx5g

yeah about that.. that pic was foudn this weekend got wet and wrinkled best i could save it..

and between the eyes and hair is text from the other side of the clippings.. and in all my rpg playing and movies ive watched plus all the ghost stories shows on scifi and such.. when are ghosts porportionate? granted that yet heh billy had a above average forhead.. if i can find a pic of him when my wife gets home ill post one to compare.. if it isnt against the rules here.. let me know

but yeah the space is a bit higher than normal.. no clue

Actually...yes, it is contrary to the policies set forth by TFP management and staff. However...I don't know that we have a policy on ghosts under the age of 18. ;)

but the boy isn't naked and its for the sake of discussion then i'm fairly sure that it wont get deleated.

yes the subject in question that is passed away appears in a webcam shot taken shortly before he was taken from all us.. he is wearing a ball cap and fully clothed.. so given permission here i will post until then i wont.. in which case either way i understand and will abide by the given desission.

if worse comes to worse I "think" its ok to post a link to a picture (somebody correct me if Im wrong) I'll be glad to host it for you if thats deemed ok

Ummmm...no.
It is against policy to post pictures, or supply links to pictures, of anyone under the age of 18, clothed or not. http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=45061 (Paragraph I, Line F)

hmmm ok....I never took that to mean a link...I thought I had seen that done several times here...guess I didnt understand that 3rd party mean a link...yeah Im dumb sometimes

oh well...sorry for the misunderstanding!!!

I'm sure that you have. I see 'em all the time, as well. The difference is that I have to get rid of them.

No...you're not. It is just as you've described it...a misunderstanding.

I hate to be cynical, but the story sounds fake and the picture looks photoshopped. The boy's colors are more vibrant than the rest of the picture. I don't think it's a ghost or a boy or anything -- I think the picture is edited. :thumbsup:

-Lasereth

no my friend bill lost his son.. in that fire.. its a paper clipping if you look you'll see where my wife had it folded in places where she kept it in her bible. happen to unpack and found it. the 2nd photo was photoshoped in my limited way to blow it up.. the picture is how it was found.. and taken. strange enough to this day everyone that was there didnt see anything and no children were present during the investigation that day. believe me i find it strange and I dont want to believe it yet i was there.. i saw nothing. just one of those things.. abit i dont believe in the ghosts of people wandering around.. tis stupid. granted my beliefs are hard to swallow on most forums and the internet in general.. me being a christain and all.. so yeah i believe once you die your done here.. you dont come back.. ever. so seeing that makes me wonder just what it was and why

"HERSEY TOWNSHIP The name of a four-year-old boy who died in a house fire in Hersey Township has not been released, according to Osceola County Sheriffs Department officials. Five family members and a visitor escaped the Monday morning house fire"

although much speculation went into the investigation.. like how could a zippo start a fire when there was not evidence of a flint being in it.. why was the boy found later to have massive bruises and hemorgaing to his body... why was there a shovel found in a storage shed with blood on it yet it wasnt "deer" blood... my sig says it all...

I'm skeptical. Wouldn't someone else in the town recognise the pictures, or something?

I too am skeptical.

I am a firm believer in things outside the realm of "science." I believe in God, but have never seen any "proof" of his existence, and I am skeptical of anyone who says that they have such proof.

The appearance of an image in a photograph, even it it cannot be explained, is not proof. The appearance of an image on the internet, even less so.

I'm not accusing anyone of deception, I'm just saying that the proof is not there.

there is clearly a "little boy" in that picture, i think the photographer would have noticed... i mean it's too blunt to miss... forget camera tricks, etc. it's like looking at a big red dot on a white wall... you just don't miss things like that

Shadows show a variety of colors and have eyes too? Hmmm .. that's new on me ;)

First: Why would you think that a ghost would have the exact same proportions as a human? Spirits do not look EXACTLY like people do (well, rarely).

Second: What you're saying is that for it to be a ghost it has to have correct HUMAN proportions? That's simply not true. That's like saying all ghosts have to glow white.. :)

I believe the little boy is letting his father know that he's still there.

Had to throw in my .02

Looks like a boy to me. Gave me goose bumps:)

If a prosecuting attorney introduces a photograph of a crime scene as evidence in a trial and says, "the officer at the scene reports that all of the windows were closed and locked," and yet we can see in the photograph that a window is open, yes it could mean that a ghost opened the window.

Then again, it could mean that the officer was mistaken.

That is a really great ghost story. My sympathies to the family. I love creepy shit like this. I saw a ghost when I was about 11 or 12. I was at a friend's house, his garden was thickly overgrown and there were religious statues littering the garden. In the middle of the night, after playing glassy-glassy ( a poor version of ouija board) I looked out the window and saw The Virgin Mary standing in the dark, glowing very brightly and looking at me peacefully. Wierd, you'd imagine that I'd be a Catholic after that but the truth is I've never credited the mother with any spiritual significance beyond lighting up my friend's childhood garden.

Wow, this really freaks me out. I hope I never see a ghost, I'm not sure how I would react.

of course you gotta realize that was two days or so after the fire.. all still a blur after all this time.. crime scene.. no one allowed passed the tape.. so no you would find a living kid there.. still got me

That is FREAKY. Of course, I'm baked right now. No more smoking and coming to TFP :O

Creepy story. Hard to tell much for certain from the pic though.

Thats a ghost, u guys say its hard to tell from the picture, but everything else in the picture is clear, but the boys face, if it was a real kid his face would be clear. i studyed the picture and it didnt seem to be anyway it could be items put together that look that much like a boy. im sorry to hear about your friends kid and stuff. good luck with this.

What's that? There's something pulling my leg under the desk. It must be a ghost.

wow..i think its real..or at least hope it is..sorry about your friend tho *offers hugs and such*

Scared me.

While I reserve my right to be skeptical, I have to say that this is fairly amazing. That, and I'm sorry for you and the father of that child.

You know... to me, that looks like a second hole in the rear wall, with the tree trunk in the background continuing down. Same color, same angle, same position...

Sorry, just don't think it's a ghost.