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indiana england 08-20-2003 08:28 PM

The Ouija Board
 
My friend, Cody, and I were home late one night. We had decided that the evening was boring enough, so we decided to risk our irrelevant time and try our hand at talking to the dead.
So, we made a ouija board out of cardboard and used one of my shotglasses for the "eye".
It took us a couple of minutes to get a contact, but we did. Some twelve year old that had been beaten by his mother, and raped and killed by his father. We actually had a pretty cool conversation. It wasn't anything to hard. There were no predictions like you see in cheap Sci - Fi movies. It was just this twelve year old hanging and talking with us, you know?
He was in the middle of spelling a word when the shotglass stopped dead.
We asked what happened. No response. We asked if he was still there. He said "Yes. Dad n rom." (Dad In Room) and that was all. We never heard from him again.
Cody and I decided to get rid of the board and shot glass.
Cody burned the board and I threw the glass in a nearby field. He spent the night at my house, that night.
When we awoke, Cody screamed when he found the board on his chest and I found the shot glass on my bed side dresser.
I CAN'T GET RID OF IT!
I would go to my school and open my locker, and there it is.
I would go home... and there it is, on my bedside dresser.
I moved recently... from Edinburg Texas to Houston Texas. I mad sure that I specifically left the shot glass in Edinburg.
The shot glass is sitting in front of me as we speak.

Please tell me this has happened to one of you before.

anti fishstick 08-20-2003 10:04 PM

uh... are you serious? that's hard to believe.. but pretty freaky if it's real. i'm kind of afraid of ouija boards cos i've had an experience myself with a DIY ouija. i just made cards w/ letters of the alphabet on them and 'yes' and 'no' and turned a plastic glass upside down to 'talk'. i kept doing this almost every day after school. i was 8. i became obsessed with it. it really did seem to work. my spirit was 'pam'. then i think i just went crazy. talking to my hands and calling it the devil. getting nightmares and waking up in cold sweats. seeing hallucinations of the virgin mary... hehe. my parents took me to a *hospital* and then a church. i'm not exactly sure what happened to me.. sounds kinda like a schizophrenic episode but it only lasted a couple months. maybe it was nothing. maybe it was all hyped up from my parents. who knows but nothing strange like that has bothered me since.

Johnny Rotten 08-21-2003 12:39 AM

First thing, when dealing with a ouija board, is to say a prayer of protection to whatever god you believe in. Even if you don't believe, the invocation helps.

Second thing, when you are done with the ouija board, you say goodbye to the spirit and repeat the invocation.

Those are the basics. The least unsafe way to it involves creating a physical ring of protection using things like candles and whatnot, which is usually beyond the average person's suspension of disbelief. The "Oh, come one, this is silly" moment.

Ouija boards are not to be taken lightly.

Do some research:
http://ghosts.org/ouija.html

fuzzix 08-21-2003 04:21 AM

My friend and I tried an ouja board once, before we sat down we both promised eachother that we wouldn't pull any stunts, but also that we would be open minded, and believe that it was possible to make some sort contact. We were both deathly honest with eachother, and we tried it, following every technique we could get our hands on. Guess what? nothing happened. So, my opinion is that ouja boards hold absolutely no credibility whatsoever.

indiana england 08-21-2003 05:32 AM

ah... of COURSE not...
in order for one to work.. you gotta BELIEVE, man.

sipsake 08-21-2003 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by indiana england
ah... of COURSE not...
in order for one to work.. you gotta BELIEVE, man.

Maybe if your story was just a little more credible. I mean, come on...it reads like a summer camp ghost story.

...and then, when he woke up, THE OUIJA BOARD WAS ON HIS CHEST!!!

ssander9 08-21-2003 07:39 AM

Don't wish to rehash my experiences with the board, but I can tell you if you give a willing spirit a chance, he will communicate with you. THE OUIJA BOARD is an easy way of this type of communication. It doesn't garrantee a contact, first you have to have a willing spirit.
Perhaps fuzzix and friend need to try it again somewhere else, like a known "scary" place.
http://www.keyj.com/timages/page/ouija.jpg

rev_skarekroe 08-21-2003 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Johnny Rotten


Do some research:
http://ghosts.org/ouija.html

Research is always the best advice for this sort of thing. I recommend continuing your research here:
http://skepdic.com/ideomotor.html

sk

indiana england 08-21-2003 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sipsake
Maybe if your story was just a little more credible. I mean, come on...it reads like a summer camp ghost story.

...and then, when he woke up, THE OUIJA BOARD WAS ON HIS CHEST!!!


That's because I'm a writer by trade and tend to make real life interesting enough to keep you moving through the story.
I can make doing your homework read excitably.

mastboy4 08-21-2003 02:53 PM

ive never had a ouija boar experience but i find what ur saying pretty hard to believe...

indiana england 08-21-2003 06:02 PM

fine. no prob.

Grimlok 08-21-2003 07:28 PM

Ouija Boards are all sorts of real man... and they are not to be funked with...

not to be funked with.

Johnny Rotten 08-21-2003 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rev_skarekroe
Research is always the best advice for this sort of thing. I recommend continuing your research here:
http://skepdic.com/ideomotor.html

sk

There's certainly an ideomotor complication. If I were to use one at all, I'd rather be blindfolded without knowing the orientation of the board, and have someone else write down what was spelled out, if anything. I think Facilitated Communication is a crock of shit.

However, there is much, much more to Ouija boards than moving around a planchette--unexplainable, frightening and bizarre events both during and after the experience that the user, by all accounts, has no covert control over. Poltergeist effects, nightmares, malevolent presences--as though using the Ouija board (improperly) almost always results in opening a door to a place that anything can walk through. Focusing solely on an ideomotor leaves the most unusual elements out. You may roll your eyes, but these are more than campfire tales or urban legend.

Devilinmypants 08-21-2003 10:47 PM

I had an experience with a ouija board, i tried to summon the devil for real man. I asked what number i was thinking of, it was seven it was always seven. The ouija board said 8, either it doesnt work or the devil cant read minds.

But then the next day the ouija board was on my chest, you gotta believe me, i'm not full of it.

asudevil83 08-22-2003 01:29 PM

honestly...i dont think i could ever use a ouija board. i've read the stories, and some of them are quite disturbing. i couldnt handle the consequences that might come from using one.

communicating with the supernatural just freaks me out, and only people with the proper knowledge and experience should use them. anyone who uses them "for fun" i say good luck, you will need it.

GakFace 08-22-2003 05:01 PM

they aren't fake.. the picture in this thread? that was one made by the parker brothers I believe.. but that is NOT their origins... a friend of mine had an older one.. none parker brothers.... his sister messed with one... ALONE.. and she was with a psychologist for months afterwords. Now sure that sounds kinda like a chain letter response, but this is from a friend I've shared more paranormal experiences with than I can count on my two hands, to the point where I trust him completely.

Now the reason two people are required isn't so your friend can trick you by moving it himself... no, its because if its one person and you get an evil spirit.... well... think about that for a second, do you REALLY want a demon appearing and you being all alone? I think not, the second person is for both of yours protection.

I never got it to work, but the night when my sister and cousin used it, he only wanted to speak with people of a certain age... I didn't fit. We spoke to Zamps.. supposedly the devil, I suspect it to merely be a demon wishing he were of higher power. He had about 17 women he called his wenches... at which point we spoke with one of them, who really regretted all she did, but by now it had been too late. we spoke with her and zamps for a bit, and then somehow we were talking to a little girl who was murdered around the age of 12.... and then Zamps took control once more. Some freaky stuff was said. Later on, we spoke to a man known as WolfGang... oddly enough I'm related to him, as is my cousin.... supposedly that "breaks" the rules of the "game".. but its not really a game.

I'm still a little skeptical about them myself tho. I've heard a lot of things to steer me away from them... but I've never actually had the chance to test it myself. It'd be interesting to try out sometime, but seeing all I have done with my life (with the supernatural).. messing with one of those boards might get unwanted attention.
Basically put, I've had run-ins with Satan, believe me or not, I'm not here to give you lies. And messing with those boards, as i just stated, might give him a chances to fuck with my mind.... :(

Psivage 08-23-2003 12:51 PM

I hear to have a good ouija board is to make it yourslef. Something like your personality shape the board. And I think there is a certain type of wood to use.

GoldenOuroboros 08-23-2003 02:26 PM

Some of yous... I dunno.. lol..
Especially some calling up the devil himself... :rollseyes:

I've never had an ouija board experience.. but I know enough and have had other experiences that have me stay away..

anti fishstick 08-23-2003 05:27 PM

run-ins with satan? elaborate.

h2ogo69 08-23-2003 09:54 PM

the only thing to ever happen tome with ouija was a flickering lgiht

LaZy 08-26-2003 08:39 AM

heh, i believe ya. ouija boards are not to be messed with. ever since my (dearly departed) step dad told me about his experience with a ouija board i won't go near one.

indiana england 08-26-2003 09:10 AM

why the hell should I delete this post? I like it. It proves that there IS controversy out there.

BentNotTwisted 08-26-2003 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by indiana england
why the hell should I delete this post? I like it. It proves that there IS controversy out there.
Gak didn't say delete this thread, he said "delete this post", i.e. his single comment.

I've only had two memorable experiences with a Ouija board. The first one, nothing happened. Except maybe my buddie's hand went numb from holdling his hands on the planchett too long. The second time was with a group of guys and women. At one point as the planchett was moving around I lifted my hand and my side of the planchett moved up meaning the girl I was doing it with was pushing it around. That's about it, no supernatural experiences. No demons or evil spirits. I guess they just don't like me or something. :D

GakFace 08-26-2003 04:42 PM

sure she could push it up... but how could she PUSH it down? She'd have to pull... and usually they aren't too easy to "invisibly" pull down.

Yeah Indiana.. Why would i say to delete the THREAD, when I myself have posted experiences in here? I merely posted something, disliked what I had, and didn't agree with it, and thus asked for a mod to delete it.

Easytiger 08-26-2003 06:17 PM

indiana, the problem is that you didn't dismiss the spirit at the end of the session. You have to tell them to go back or you run the risk of...well, you know what's happening.
My advice (as a long-time practicing witch) is to start another session, ask the "kid" to join you, and tell him that he can go now. After you've done that, stamp on the ground three times, say "It is done" and say a prayer to whoever you happen to believe in, or the God and Goddess if you don't (they won't mind).

After that? Sleep with a sprig of rosemary in your pillowcase. It smells nice and is very effective at keeping spirits away.

Aaron0000 08-28-2003 02:58 PM

Man, I dont know if those things work or not. But I will never try one.

R-Dubb604 08-31-2003 11:25 AM

ive used a ouija board before when i was younger, after reading some of the stories out there, i want to get this ouija board out of my house. Shits evil man, not to be taken lightly.

brinkn1 09-01-2003 09:01 PM

I've only messed with a Ouija board twice, but both times have left me more than a little freaked out. The first time I tried it, I was with my sister and we asked the first spirit we contacted if it knew who had killed my grandfather (he was shot in a bar he owned before we were born). It said that it did know. When we asked who did it, the spirit said "I did" and then proceeded to spell out the word 'whores' repeatedly. We immediately started singing "Jesus Loves Me" (our escape plan), and the spirit said goodbye. We destroyed the board afterward.

My second experience was VERY strange. I was on vacation in Nevada with my family to see some family friends. They happen to live in one of the oldest houses in Nevada (it was built in the 1800s). My parents sent all of us kids to sleep in the mother-in-laws quarters on the property. We made a Ouija board and tried contacting spirits but were only getting gibberish. We destroyed the board when we were done, but we never 'officially' closed the session by praying - we just forgot. So we went to bed, all in the same room. I was laying in my bed, which was situated in an alcove, lying with my eyes open. I rolled over and faced the wall and noticed a glow on the wall. It was shaped like a crescent. At first I thought it was light leaking in through a window, but I couldn't figure out how it would have gotten where it was on the wall since my bed was situated in an alcove. I placed my hand in front of it to see if I could shadow the light with my hand, but no matter what angle I held my hand, the glow didn't go away. I told my sister what I was seeing and she immediately said we all had to get the hell out of there right away. We all ran back to the main house, and felt much safer with our parents around. Turns out my sister had seen the exact same thing I was seeing on the wall next to HER bed and when I told her what I'd seen it was enough for her to decide to get the f##k out.

Nothing too life-threatening or profound, but it is enough weirdness for me to believe that Ouija boards are real and that they are NOT to be taken lightly.

BentNotTwisted 09-02-2003 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GakFace
sure she could push it up... but how could she PUSH it down? She'd have to pull... and usually they aren't too easy to "invisibly" pull down.
Since the girl was pushing down on her side of the planchette and her fingers were on the outer edge, the feet of the planchett formed a fulcrum which caused my side to move upward. I hope this explains it better. It really pissed me off that she thought she was fooling me. I never trusted the biatch after that.

Munku 09-04-2003 08:20 PM

Ouija Boards are a crock of shit. Seriously.

Semi-Normal 09-05-2003 10:24 AM

I tried using one when I was a kid, not knowing about any of what people say is the proper way to use them (praying etc... I'm an atheist anyway though heh), and nothing happened at all.

On the other hand, my mother told me about a time she, my father and a group of their friends used one. They asked what horse was going to win the first race at the races they were going to the next day, and then asked which horse was going to win the next one. The first horse had a normal name (as far as horse names go) but the second one was apparently called "Dark Knowledge". At the races the next day they laughed it all off and only put a little money on the first horse, as the odds were strongly against it. It won however, so they put a lot more on the horse called Dark Knowledge in the following race. It fell over during the race and they lost their money.

I'm not sure what to make of the story, but my mother is a very down-to-earth person not given to making stuff like that up, and swears it's a true story. My father is a complete skeptic, and when I asked him about it he looked uncomfortable and muttered something about "nonsense".

jujueye 09-05-2003 03:41 PM

Amazing how many people have had real experiences with them. In spite of my sometimes silly comments here, I mean no harm. In the case of this subject, I, too, have had odd experiences. It was with a Parker Brothers version very much like the one in the pciture. For fun, my sister and I tried some contact. We connected with some relative on my mothers side. My mom was rather pale when we named granny whatshername. As we were both under 12, it would have been impossible for us to know or remember her. We had some other freaky times with it, but pretty much put it away after that. Too powerful for mainstream american use.

EeOh1 09-05-2003 04:17 PM

I'm curious, how do you speak with them? A couple of stories involve a lot of "dialogue", doesn't it take a long time to go from letter to letter?

motdakasha 09-05-2003 05:50 PM

someone gave me a parker brothers ouija board for christmas once a long time ago. i didn't know what the hell it was for for like 2 years after i got it. when i finally found out, i tried to use it with a neighbor, i couldn't trust him enough if he was pushing, so we didn't get very far (and no we didn't say goodbye).

the next time i tried to use it was alone. i figured i didn't know anyone i could trust enough to not push it around, so my next best bet was alone because i can at least trust myself, right? when i put my hands on the pointer i immediately felt like everything from my elbow to my finger tips was tingling and being pulled. i hadn't even asked a question or said anything and the pointer was moving rather rapidly across the board. i mean really fast. so much so that i freaked out, tossed the board upside down and went outside for a breather. **edit: if what i was feeling meant it was working, then my reasoning was that i didn't want it to work. that's why i split. (joke)i can't handle the truth!(/joke)

so basically, i have this ouija board in my basement. i'm mostly too freaked to use it again, but i'm also way too freaked to attempt getting rid of it. i guess i'm just superstitious like that. just watch, when i die they'll try to get rid of it. years later, when they exhume my body, they'll find a ouija board on my chest! well okay, except that i'm not gonna be buried when i die.

meff 09-05-2003 06:04 PM

Sounds creepy. My sister had one when I was little though I never used it. I'd like to hear more stories where it actually 'worked' though. And maybe some proof ;)

jeenyus_one 09-06-2003 08:17 AM

ouiga board is ALL BULLSHIT. How it works is you and yoru friend or whatever want to beleive that contatcting spirits w/e is possible so you... wtf is the word again.... subliminally move the fingers to the words that you want to appear such as " I am here" etc...

Baldrick 09-06-2003 01:08 PM

While I'm a true believer in the paranormal and supernatural, I find it hard to believe that Ouija boards are anything more than capitalism at it's finest.

I put Ouija boards right up there with the hula hoop, frisbee, and Monopoly for true tools of the occult.

GakFace 09-08-2003 01:09 PM

TFPers.. Some of you can get links that would take me hours to find. Can one of you please post links talking about the ORIGINS of the Ouija Boards? To prove that they did NOT start because of capitolist schemes. I know they originated WAY before Parker Brothers thought to make it a "game," I just do not have any links about it.

Jeenyus_one: So then could I potentially do anything I wanted, If i honestly believed I could? And then how do you explain things people NEVER KNEW BEFORE, but that their friend did know?(the friend that wasn't using the boards)

motdakasha: Wow! I've heard similar stories by friends who've done the same. I'm happy to hear you had enough Willpower to throw it down. The reason for two people is NOT so one can trick the other, its simply for protection so that a spirit does not consume you. and you Motdakasha, I believe you understand this precisely.

When my cousins and sisters did it, we never closed it with prayer, but we DID make sure to say good-bye and end the conversation.

anti fishstick 09-08-2003 02:29 PM

this was my mistake when playing with an ouija. too many times of doing it by myself. i became intrigued and obsessed. and it really messed with me.

GoldenOuroboros 09-08-2003 04:43 PM

Did a simple search.. had to follow a few links to get there tho.

http://www.castleofspirits.com/ouijaboards.html

Quote:

The idea of the Ouija board first came about in 1848 when two sisters in the USA believed they could talk to a spirit and started up a simple form of communicating with it by tapping on a table or the wall, each tap or knock represented a letter of the alphabet.

Not too much later on early type of Ouija boards were developed and it was common for people to participate in regular seances and attempts to contact the spirit world. Although many of these earlier seances were often hosted by fraudulent mediums who were after money and would resort to all sorts of trickery to .
So yeah.. it has abit more.. have a look, I hope this is what you were looking for Gak :)

Johnny Rotten 09-08-2003 05:41 PM

All the searching I've done on "Ouija board", "talking board," and "witchboard" points back to the Oujia board, which is generally regarded as having appeared in the 19th century during the whole spiritualist/medium craze. No other divination/channeling device seems to have many similarities.

GoldenOuroboros 09-08-2003 06:05 PM

I just remembered of something else I heard of, you get yourself a piece of paper and put yes and no on the two halves.. then hold a pendulum above it and let its sway saying yes and no when its over the corresponding word.. then you stop it and then ask it a question. 'apparently' it's supposed to sway more in the dirrection of the 'correct' answer.. it'd be to subconcious for me tho

if you could free hang the pendulum off something that you didn't have to react with.. I could understand then..

glytch 09-08-2003 08:26 PM

To the first poster, have you tried contacting the kid again? If this is indeed a true story, it sounds like by him giving you your ouija board back, he wants to contact you. It couldn't be THAT bad, could it?

I've tried them a few times but never gotten anything out of it. I think the only true way would be to have quite a few people, with only two people on the board. Then blindfold the two people, and have another dictate, and others just to witness. Failing that, a video camera works.

motdakasha 09-09-2003 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoldenOuroboros
I just remembered of something else I heard of, you get yourself a piece of paper and put yes and no on the two halves.. then hold a pendulum above it and let its sway saying yes and no when its over the corresponding word.. then you stop it and then ask it a question. 'apparently' it's supposed to sway more in the dirrection of the 'correct' answer.. it'd be to subconcious for me tho
pendulum divination is different from a ouija board is different from a dowsing rod, etc.
google: pendulum divination
http://www.brownboxgames.com/mystic_pendulum.html
http://realmagick.com/articles/57/2057.html

i used to have a pendulum, but i bought it because it was shiny and pretty. i wonder where i put it.

GoldenOuroboros 09-09-2003 03:20 AM

ok know it all :p

motdakasha 09-09-2003 04:47 AM

i'm not a know it all :P half of my bookcases are metaphysic type books. i used to be really into this stuff.

GoldenOuroboros 09-09-2003 11:00 PM

ahhh.. so you're a learned know it all ;) :p

GakFace 09-10-2003 08:40 PM

hahahahaha

Cardinal Syn 09-14-2003 09:50 AM

What i am finding strange about this object is. The spirit that i have contacted was around the age of 12 as well. Now why does this number keep coming up? What does it mean? The child i spoke with had the name of Zack. Hmmm Another Z letter word of a child or DEMON??

Hmmmm???

harhar 09-15-2003 03:23 PM

I use ouja board as a drawing board(nice sized) , Havenīt noticed anything "paranormal activity"..
Played with it two times, years ago with friends. Nothing happened.

Beltruckus 09-15-2003 09:16 PM

I want an update on the "reappearing" ouija board!!!

motdakasha 09-15-2003 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by harhar
I use ouja board as a drawing board(nice sized) , Havenīt noticed anything "paranormal activity"..
Played with it two times, years ago with friends. Nothing happened.

Ohh! A drawing board, what a good idea.

Batman976 09-15-2003 11:19 PM

I used to play with a Ouiji Board when I was younger. I think in jr. high school. My friend moved it. The board itself never mysteriously reappeared, we never said any prayers, and nothing spooky happened at all.

All I want is for some evil demon to start knocking shit off my walls. Is that too much to ask? Then maybe I'll start believing.

...maybe.

Batman976 09-15-2003 11:30 PM

Of course, shortly after I posted that, I hear a bang out in the living room. But alas, the pizza must be returned to the refrigerator from whence it came. The windows must be shut and the air turned on so I can sleep comfortably.

GoldenOuroboros 09-16-2003 01:16 AM

Maybe something was waaatching ;P

forgotten_dream 09-17-2003 10:45 AM

Heh. Be careful what you wish for perhaps? ;)

Ok, so what if something is allready HERE. Would contacting it w/ a ouija board be a good idea, or should I just leave well enough alone?

GoldenOuroboros 09-17-2003 02:31 PM

Depends if you want to get yourself into a possibility of there being a whole lotta trouble...

Shyla Loral 09-17-2003 08:42 PM

Very entertaining thread! I personally don't believe in Ouija boards working, but won't make fun of anyone who does.
As far as the shot glass, I dunno: I've moved and thought I'd thrown out things and had them show up and it didn't spook me, the longer you pack, especially if in a hurry, you go "oh, fuck it" and just throw it in a box, and you forget what to keep and t hrow away mixed up.

ashlass 09-19-2003 11:47 AM

Hey, does anyone remember what the 3 questions are that you're NEVER supposed to ask the board? As I recall, one is "What's your name?"

(Did a quick search on the web and only came up with "Am I fat?")

Sad_Machine 09-19-2003 12:27 PM

Quote:

The Ouija Board has been around since the time of the Roman Emporeror Valens in the fourth century. It is also thought to have been used by the Greeks since before the time of Christ. It is a form of divination.

The modern Ouija Board began as a combination of two tools used for scrying. The first was a wheel made up of the letters of the alphabet. The second was a glass, usually a wine glass which is inverted and placed in the middle.

The letters are usually written on small pieces of paper which are placed in a circle around the table.

It was in 1891 that a patent was granted to Elijah J Bond on the first modern Ouija Board. The following year the rights were purchased by William Fuld. In 1966 the Parker Brothers purchased the rights to the Ouija Board and shifted its manufacturing facilities to Salem, Massachusetts. The Ouija Board ended up outselling the game of Monopoly in its first full year at Salem. Over two million copies of the Ouija Board were shipped.

Just a little history that I found.

Sad_Machine 09-19-2003 12:31 PM

Three things never to ask a Ouija board

1. Never ask about God.

2. Never ask when you are going to die.

3. Never ask where the gold is buried

motdakasha 09-19-2003 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sad_Machine
3. Never ask where the gold is buried
Arrr. What harm be done for askin' 'bout me buried treasure, matey?

GoldenOuroboros 09-20-2003 12:52 AM

Perhaps the spirits you're 'contacting' are all dead pirates and if you ask them that they might get angry cause it's their gold.. har harr!

shadow_knight 09-20-2003 10:25 AM

i use a psychic circle that i bought from a store because i was unable to find an Ouija

i havent had any problems with it so far.
i think its because i recited a chant before and after using it and also said bye to the spirit when i was through.

and to any one who cant get thier Ouiji board to work have some patience it normally takes 15 mins before the eye on my psychic circle starts moving.

Batman976 09-20-2003 10:49 AM

Avast! The gold carries a terrible curse, me hearty!

Seriously though... why can't you ask those three questions? What is supposed to happen if you do?

shadow_knight 09-20-2003 10:53 AM

i wouldnt ever ask when am i going to die because i would end up living the rest of my life in fear.
even if it said never.

Batman976 09-20-2003 11:04 AM

I'd be more afraid if I knew how I was going to die and not when. Imagine if it told you you were going to be hit by a car or something. You would be scared to death of cars for the rest of your life. That is, of course, you believe what it tells you.

shadow_knight 09-20-2003 11:14 AM

id still be more afraid if it only told me when because i wouldnt no how i was going to die

Sad_Machine 09-21-2003 08:16 AM

I have a friend who's really into the whole dark evil scene and everything, and he's pretty much convinced that he released a demon into his home using a ouija board. Personally, I'm not sure if I believe that, but his house does have a creepy aura to it and we've all scene apparations of his great grandmother there.

fuzzix 09-28-2003 06:52 AM

I'm flabbergasted that so many people seem to genuinely believe in this stuff. You all need to be sedated! (and I mean that in the nicest of ways) :P
You're either kidding yourselves, going on hearsay, or have fooled yourself into thinking your adrenaline rushes and feelings of nervousness (yes, these are taboo practises!) are manifestations of spirits and demons! When you're young and impressionable an ouija board is easily manipulated, and so is your mind, c'mon how many people have tried it RECENTLY?
And to those who say you've gotta "believe" for it to work - wtf? If I stop believing in an invisible force such as wind does it cease to exist? No. If I stop believing in spirits do they cease to exist? Yes. If I start believing in them do they exist? No. Only in my mind.

GakFace 09-29-2003 12:48 AM

If you dont' believe in it, you're susceptible to giving up quicker. If you don't believe in it, you're susceptible to move it yourself. If you don't believe in it, you're susceptible to ignore anything that happened. If you don't believe in it, you're susceptible to play off it moving as a muscle spasm. I believe this is what he meant when he said that.

Question... do you BELIEVE in God? In Satan? In Angels/Demons? In spirits? I'm curious about those. Also, isn't it possible that they could talk through these devices? Many people cannot actually hear spirits when they speak, so could this not be a great way for people to speak to them?

Where is a wiccan when you need one? I believe there are some here.. in fact with this many members, I wouldn't doubt it. I would like to see what they think about these boards. (if they alerady posted, then i missed it, and i just speed checked for it)

Btw, Sad_Machine: I don't think the boards will "Summon/Release" anything. Spirits can already get here, the board is simply a way to communicate.

fuzzix 09-29-2003 06:46 AM

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Originally posted by GakFace
[B] If you dont' believe in it, you're susceptible to giving up quicker. If you don't believe in it, you're susceptible to move it yourself. If you don't believe in it, you're susceptible to ignore anything that happened. If you don't believe in it, you're susceptible to play off it moving as a muscle spasm. I believe this is what he meant when he said that.
Yes, point - but how long is this supposed to take? I approached it when I was younger with an open mind, tried every trick in the book with that thing and yeilded no results. So to me, that proved that it doesn't exist. And I believe it without a shadow of a doubt.

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Question... do you BELIEVE in God? In Satan? In Angels/Demons? In spirits? I'm curious about those. Also, isn't it possible that they could talk through these devices? Many people cannot actually hear spirits when they speak, so could this not be a great way for people to speak to them?
No, I don't really believe in any of these I'd describe myself as an agnostic leaning toward atheism. I'll bet there wouldn't be an athiest in here that believes in ouija boards powers.

I just found it interesting that so many people were interested in/influenced by the ouija board, how many people who use them actually approach the subject rationally and with an open mind? How many people with ouija board experiences are religious in some way? I'd be interested to see if anyone who has no religion has had any experiences.

motdakasha 09-29-2003 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by fuzzix
No, I don't really believe in any of these I'd describe myself as an agnostic leaning toward atheism. I'll bet there wouldn't be an athiest in here that believes in ouija boards powers.
I'm not a religious person (I categorize atheism as a religion). I've already posted my experiences.

I don't believe the Ouija to be something that communicates with Gods or demons or angels, but it does something. What, exactly, it does I'm not sure. I agree that the majority of people will unconsciously start pushing the pointer around, but I don't think that necessarily defrauds the Ouija. One could argue that by opening up your mind to allow for these unconscious movements is the essential part of "communicating." By allowing your mind to open, you're letting whatever thing it is to guide your movements through the unconscious. Anyways, I just pulled that out of my ass. I can usually argue from just about any perspective. I don't really care to think about the Ouija on some "deep" level, though. It's a frickin' board with letters. There are more important things to think about, like what am I going to be when I grow up.

sadistikdreams 09-29-2003 08:34 PM

What am I going to be when I grow up?

Sad_Machine 09-30-2003 04:27 PM

If I may, I suggest that you look into being a pirate. They make all kinds of money and get to carry swords. If there is any profession more respectable than a pirate, I don't want to know what it is.

donlegacy 09-30-2003 06:28 PM

Ya know just to reply to the first guy who posted this, i had a friend who had the exact same experience where she wasn't able to get rid of the board. Every time she tried to trash it, it would reappear on the table. I think what they ended up doing was giving the ouija board away, i think the only way to get rid of it is to give it away to a willing person. (That is if you never said good bye to it i guess)

sadistikdreams 09-30-2003 06:53 PM

Thanks, Sad_Machine

I will be a pirate.

flutter_girl 09-30-2003 10:18 PM

i dont know if someone has written this, but you have to break the connection.. blow into the shot glass... at our year 10 retreat... my friends made a oujia board... they got my friends mum, then she all of a sudden went, then they got this guy that my friend jen used to get all the time... i think he was the reason her and her mum stopped using theies... long story... but they couldnt get rid of him... then he told them to get out of the room (there was a tiny room they were in connected to our cabin) and they asked if he was going to do something if they stayed in there, he said yes.... they slammed the door as they ran out, and wouldnt go to sleep or go back into the room. we went in when it got light and tried again and asked if he was going to go, he said no, then we said we were leaving so he said bye... then my friends tried at school (stupid idea- catholic school) and they got him again. one of my friends was being stupid and asked if he could break glass again (um.. this is linked with my friend jen and why she doesnt use it anymore...) and he said 'dodge it'.... they were sitting under a window..... nothing happened... but even so... it freaked them out pretty bad.....

ddjones 10-01-2003 07:55 PM

Where can I get a Ouija board at? I've tried Walmart, etc, can't find it anywhere.

merkerguitars 10-01-2003 09:04 PM

Ok now....if I where to try to use an ouija board again (last time i tried was when i was like 7) What is the proper sequence...?
1. Pray to god for protection?
2. Summon spirit?
3. Ask question?
4. Tell them to leave?
5. Pray to god again?

i'm really curious...

Hercules 10-02-2003 10:39 PM

Pfft theres no sequence. Just relax, free your mind, let the board take over.

Some really freaky stories going on here.. I will have to try some rounds of Ouija tomorrow night.

Beltruckus 10-03-2003 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by flutter_girl
i dont know if someone has written this, but you have to break the connection.. blow into the shot glass... at our year 10 retreat... my friends made a oujia board... they got my friends mum, then she all of a sudden went, then they got this guy that my friend jen used to get all the time... i think he was the reason her and her mum stopped using theies... long story... but they couldnt get rid of him... then he told them to get out of the room (there was a tiny room they were in connected to our cabin) and they asked if he was going to do something if they stayed in there, he said yes.... they slammed the door as they ran out, and wouldnt go to sleep or go back into the room. we went in when it got light and tried again and asked if he was going to go, he said no, then we said we were leaving so he said bye... then my friends tried at school (stupid idea- catholic school) and they got him again. one of my friends was being stupid and asked if he could break glass again (um.. this is linked with my friend jen and why she doesnt use it anymore...) and he said 'dodge it'.... they were sitting under a window..... nothing happened... but even so... it freaked them out pretty bad.....
I really wish I could understand what was said here.

dy156 10-03-2003 12:54 PM

We played with a oiji board one night in high school with a group of four, and I freely admit I was trying to move it. I was trying to get with a girl, and made it give her the answers she wanted and that confirmed things I had said. My tactic worked, by the way, though, it might have even without the board. Nothing remotely weird or anything.

Hercules 10-04-2003 11:26 PM

I also heard something recently that they coat Ouija boards with some kind of paint or something that hisses or screams when you burn it?

Anyone know of this? hehe :crazy:

flutter_girl 10-05-2003 03:44 AM

ok Beltruckus i will explain a few things... first off.... typo theirs*.... jen and her mum got this guy named steve, and they always used to get him whenever they used the board, so they stopped. when they told steve they were going to stop, all this glass started breaking... apparently... um.... did that sort of help?

10-05-2003 04:00 AM

Ouija boards are corny, there is usually 1 person that has to move it themselves.

Beltruckus 10-05-2003 08:25 AM

that helps a bit original message i thought they were contacting the mother....

Harmonia 10-05-2003 04:58 PM

I believe in Ouiji boards and everything...I'm skeptical but I believe given the right timing and the right consentration and spiritualness it could work...

But do you think it's possible for a person to maybe move it using energy? Just pure energy between two people and the item that is being moved? You can heal with energy and feel others energy...maybe you can move something with energy? It's just a thought I had.

Then again, maybe your energy is connecting with the deceased?

psicon 10-20-2003 12:39 AM

From my personal experience I will give you a piece of advice DON'T MESS WITH A OUIJA BOARD. Even people that has tons of knowledge on the subject don't mess with them.It opens a gateway that no one has ever been able to close completely.The "spirits" you contact are not what they claim to be.My advice to those who have them is to burn them.

GakFace 10-20-2003 02:14 PM

I know thats the whole thing, I haven't messed with them since I was little, and so I feel intrigued to find one and try it out. Problem is, I'm kind of aware of what I could be getting myself into, and I have made some not so good friends in the Demon Heirarchy... Don't think it would be a smart idea.

sadistikdreams 10-20-2003 07:56 PM

It doesn't open a gateway, so much as it yanks someone the fuck outta there.

GakFace 10-21-2003 08:57 AM

I dunno.. See the chance to get an evil spirit seems to be rather high. Well an evil spirit as far as I'm concerned is a Demon, and last I heard, lots of demons are pretty free as they want.. So if it were a gateway, it would merely pull one that didn't have much power... then maybe another evil spirit would noticed and push him outta the way. Of course yanking them to you could get the same reaction... :(

a_guy 10-21-2003 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by Baldrick
While I'm a true believer in the paranormal and supernatural, I find it hard to believe that Ouija boards are anything more than capitalism at it's finest.

I put Ouija boards right up there with the hula hoop, frisbee, and Monopoly for true tools of the occult.

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The ancient Egyptians used a device LIKE a ouija board. They used a ring attached to a strand of thread, held over a circular table with symbols on it, and the ring would strike the table to spell out answers.

The Ouija board, the kind we see in toy stores today, came about in 1889 when William Fuld of Baltimore, Maryland, and his brother Isaac, marketed Ouija boards to the American public. They had a small operation and the board was the hottest item they would ever produce. People bought the board not as a game, but as a device with which they would talk to their loved ones killed in battle (note the two World Wars happening; this was where the board's popularity really soared). During this time, the fad spread, and so did Ouija's notorious reputation as being more than just a "game."

Finally in about 1960 or thereabouts, Parker Brothers approached the two Fuld brothers since they were having trouble making enough boards to satisfy the demand for them. PB then took over the rights to the ouija board and the rest, as they say, is history.

Ouija came about as kind of a by-product of the whole spiritualist craze that was all the rage in the early 1900's, and during Houdini's time as he debunked many 'mediums'. Table-tipping was being done back then, and a Frenchman, who's last name was "planchette", produced a device that looked like a small table like a ouija pointer, that stood on two small stilts and a pen or pencil at the third point. The operator would sit with his hands as lightly as he could resting on the planchette, this device named after it's inventor, and the thing would move, producing writing.

Ouija replaced the messy planchette (the writing was messy cursive scrawls) when a board was used in place of the sheet of paper, and all three stilts on the planchette were covered with felt enabling it to slide in any direction. This made the communications fast, clear, and easy. And specifically meant to be done with a partner, "gentleman and lady preferred."

Eugene Orlando adds:

"William Fuld died in 1927, Isaac in 1939. Since Parker Brothers didn't take over the William Fuld company until 1966, it would have been quite a trick to take it over from the brothers. But then it is alt.folklore.ghost-stories isn't it? Actually, Parker Brothers saw a bargain when they saw one and bought the business from William's kids. They had moved the factory into a smaller building and sold out not because there was so much demand for the ouija, but just the opposite. Ouija sales had never been worse. It took a Parkers advertising blitz to put the popularity back in the Ouija board."

panamaus 10-21-2003 04:37 PM

Destroying or discarding your board and its planchette, and then finding it again (or rather, it finding you), over and over, seems like an incredibly implausible tale of paranormal activity to me. Still, it makes for a good Halloween story. It's as believable to some as are claims of the Ouija's authenticity, I suppose. Yet it seems like the tale of a skeptic trying to stretch their own disbelief in the Ouija's power into something that otherwise reasonable believers would find hard to swallow. Here's my personal take on the Ouija board, prefaced with a little history.

Ouija, "The Mystifying Oracle," is a board game used to contact and communicate with spirits that exist beyond our physical realm. That is to say, if you subscribe to a belief in such things. It requires no special training or skills to operate, and can be used by anyone from "professional" mediums, psychics and other spiritualists to college students, teenagers and even children. It is a gateway into the world of the paranormal, much like a divining rod; it works for some people, and not for others.

Conceived by E.C. Reiche and Charles Kennard, the Ouija board was first marketed in its current form by the Kennard Novelty Company in 1890. Reiche received a message while using his new invention to call the board Ouija, after the Egyptian word for luck. Unfortunately, that isn't the Egyptian word for luck, but the name sounds exotic and mystical, so it stuck. Kennard's shop foreman, William Fuld, orchestrated a hostile takeover of the company in 1892, and began manufacturing the board game under his own name. Fuld reinvented the history of the Ouija, claiming that the name comes from the combination of Oui (French) and Ja (German, Norwegian, etc), making the name of the board "Yes, yes." While this doesn't make much sense, it is at least a somewhat better explanation of the name's origin.

The device itself consists of two parts. The first is a board (usually about 18" x 12" in size) with the letters of the alphabet, numbers 0 through 9, and the words YES, NO and GOOD BYE printed or painted on one side. If hand made, the board may be constructed of almost any material (including paper), but most commercially sold versions are made of laminated wood particles with a printed paper label affixed to it.

The second component of the Ouija is called a planchette (or "little plank"), allegedly named for the French spiritualist who invented it in 1853. It is a pointing device about the size of your hand, and generally shaped like a heart. It rests on padded feet to elevate it above the surface of the board, and usually (though not always) contains a window. The feet were originally made from pencils, as the device was invented as a means to communicate with the spirits via automatic writing. The planchette is made of plastic in manufactured versions of the game.

The Ouija is used by placing the board on a flat surface with the planchette in the center. It is meant to be used by two people, but can be operated solo or by up to four players (any more would be impractical). The players lightly rest their finger tips on top of the planchette. When more than one living person is present, questions to the spirit world are generally asked aloud. The planchette will move, guided by an entity or entities inhabiting the spirit world, and spell out answers to questions that are asked. There are a lot of variables at work here, and using the Ouija successfully often takes a good deal of patience and practice. An open mind helps too. As with many things in life, your mileage may vary.

That the Ouija actually works is a difficult faith to impart upon most people, even those who witness one in action. In spite of those who would casually dismiss the Ouija out of hand as a mere plaything, or those who might condemn it as an instrument of evil, I am relatively certain that it is neither of these things. The Ouija is quite simply a conduit. But a conduit to what? Some believe the spirits of the dead speak through the Ouija, while others contend that they are spiritual beings such as angels or demons. Most skeptics maintain that it is merely the subconscious minds of the players that produce the results.

I have owned my personal Ouija board since 1985 when it was passed down to me by my mother, who owned it since she was a teenager in the 1950s. My board was manufactured by William Fuld, Baltimore, Maryland, whose company was sold to Parker Brothers in 1966. I have used this board on many occasions, both with friends and alone, and I can attest to its authenticity. I have watched it reveal facts which were unknown to me, but which were verified by skeptical participants using the board with me, or by impartial observers. I have seen the planchette "freak out" when used atop a tomb in a cemetary at night, explaining only with a YES that there were too many spirits present to communicate coherently. I have seen its power amaze and frighten those who doubted its genuine nature, and have had the planchette physically yanked out of my hands by unseen forces communicating through it.

When using the Ouija with some regularity, it is unusual for you to end up communicating with the same spirit more than a few times, unless you commonly invoke the board in the same location, or unless you call upon the spirit by name. I have often experienced instances where multiple spirits would fight over control of the board, making it difficult to discern exactly whom you were "talking to" at any given moment. It has been my experience that the planchette becomes sluggish and quite unresponsive when it is being accessed by multiple spirits at the same time.

I have never spoken to any spirit through the Ouija board that I actually believed to be the Devil. As this is a construct of the many Christian religions, I do not know whether or not such an entity really exists. I have encountered many separate spirits using the Ouija who have professed to be the devil or a devil of some sort, but which did not appear to me to be what they claimed.

To expound upon this point, each spirit that communicates through the Ouija has a separate and distinct personality. They respond to questions differently, use different language and grammar, have different moods, and express an attitude that becomes clear after even the shortest period of conversation. For example, I have spoken with the same spirit (in this case, his name was "Waldo", although he is not the only example I have) on at least five separate occasions in the late 1980s and early 1990s. While I could identify him not only by the name he claimed, but by his use of language and his general demeanor with regard to the responses he gave to my questions, his attitude and mood varied greatly from session to session. Still, both I and my Ouija player knew it was the same spirit; "he" had made references to earlier conversations and spelled out things which "he" had mentioned in earlier sessions, but also things which other named spirits had mentioned to us in other sessions. This leaves open the possibility that the same spirit can claim multiple identities and personalities, and for Christians at least, undoubtedly reopens the Devil factor.

Regardless of all this, I have never had a "bad" experience with the Ouija. There have been some frightening experiences (particularly the one in the graveyard), and some which were frustrating due to the inexperience and skepticism of the person participating with me in channeling the planchette's movements. Also, there are many times when the planchette is simply unresponsive, which I have attributed to location and other mitigating factors.

While I have a friend who claims that his Ouija board is "horribly mean", I feel this perception is based on his relative inexperience with using it. While many entities who communicate through the board do express themselves as angry or unkind spirits (And why not? You've woken them up!), some are quite friendly and genuinely pleasant. It all depends upon location, the state of mind you and your partner(s) are in when engaging in communication using the board, and the willingness of the spirits to speak.

As an interesting side note, I have never had a Ouija partner that claimed to have intentionally moved the planchette, or believed that I was controlling it in order to fool them. In most cases, the planchette moved so rapidly and with such force that it would often be nearly yanked from my fingers while responding to questions posed to it by myself, my partner, or other observers. This in itself was enough to convince every skeptic I have ever run across that the power displayed by the Ouija was genuine.


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guypunkr 10-21-2003 05:29 PM

I used to be highly active in Wicca... But I met a nice girl who was the pastor's daughter... And now I find myself strongly Christian... I've had so many experiences with the supernatural that I can't deny its existence, but I'm really torn up as to how I should feel...

I most certainly believe in Ouija Boards, as for a few years of my life, that's where I got most of my advice... Oh well... The only thing I have to say about what you've done is something already said seven thousand times, so... You get it already...

cchris 10-22-2003 08:46 AM

So at the end of the day when it's all said and done.

No closer to what we don't want to know anyway.

Snakebyt 11-07-2003 09:51 PM

ok, here is my story, i have messed with them off and on since highschool, nothing really freaky really happened to me per say, but i was with a friend, and we went to another friends house, they started playing with the board. I sat and watched since there were only 2 chairs at the table. they were joking around and Kyle (it was his board and his house) asked it if he would go to college, it said "yes", he asked if he would graduate it said "no"
He asked why he wouldnt graduate aqnd it responded "ded" welll. that freaked us all out.. so he went into his backyard and burned the board, and his initials KM, were the last letters to burn.. was quite freaky...



not sure if it is related or not, but he did die in a car accident while in college

Big Chief 10-06-2010 01:59 PM

Good topic. Anymore ouija stories. Anyone knows "Gakface" the board members email adress or contact information. I would like to know more about his ouija session.. Any info??

The_Jazz 10-07-2010 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Chief (Post 2828703)
Good topic. Anymore ouija stories. Anyone knows "Gakface" the board members email adress or contact information. I would like to know more about his ouija session.. Any info??

I do, but there's no way that I'd share it with someone with only one post.

Big Chief 10-07-2010 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Jazz (Post 2828843)
I do, but there's no way that I'd share it with someone with only one post.

Oh boy. :shakehead: Don't worry, I'm not a stalker. Don't really care for it. The reason I asked for his contact was because a friend of mines had a ouija story similar to his. I just wanted to find out some more info. If you can, could you give him my email addy. He can create a new email addy if he wants to, if he doesn't want me to know his real contact info. I could care less, I just wanted to know some things from him about his Ouija session. Can't give email addy. Not enough post. Will post more, then give you my email addy. Thank you.


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