Drug-Induced Paranoia
 

If you smoke cannabis or whatever u probably know about the paranoia that comes with it.

Personally i feel that its cause by all the secrecy thats involved with using drugs illegally, and grows from there. i don't think its completely chemical.

Also it seems that they aren't spontaneous thoughts, more like thoughts that surface and you continue to think about.

I've been clean pretty much all summer so it's gone away but its still there sometimes. Alcohol usually calms me down and gets my mind off of it....

Please share stories, experiences, methods, etc...

i could be wrong, but from personal experience i think weed makes the heart tick faster. and that...

i dunno....

but yeah. weed has made me paranoid many times. down right scared a few times. like i was gonna die & then i would get religious right there & then.

hahaha stupidity is marvelous?

Pot makes you paranoid. Period. While I have nothing against it - infact I was a heavy user for about 4 years strait. If it was legal it would still make pot heads paranoid :)

Testing, Testing...
 

haha so seeing as how i had to experiment... :p

for me events happen together and it makes it seem like the events must have something to do with each other, but its probably just a coincidence.

A close friend of mine once ran about 10 miles towards home from a club, convinced somebody was out to get him.

When he got close to home he thought he heard helicopters overhead and ran into some woods. He spent the night there hiding under the cover of the trees.

Never been one for paranoia myself, except when driving home from my dealer or when my plants get out of hand.

I used to smoke a lot back in college. It consistently made me paranoid. I had lots of friends that smoked too. Some of them became paranoid on it, some did not. I never had the strong feeling of paranoia continue after the buzz was gone. IMO it made me paranoid because, at the time, I was a bit paranoid about the world and worried a lot about what others were thining of me. It doesn't affect me now because, for the most part, I don't care what others think of me.
"Never wonder what others are thinking about you. They are too busy wondering what you are thinking about them." Unknown

Heart rate increases during the onset of a marijuana high. It slows down to normal shortly after.

true true, good quote thanks.

wut about shrooms, i heard those really fuck u up

If you're goign to do mushrooms, before you do it, make sure you have a positive mindset.

I've only tried weed a couple of times, and that was enough. Doesn't have a positive effect on me at all, I do get mildly paranoid, but I think I'm slightly paranoid even without it, so who knows. All I do know is that it's bad, and I want nothing to do with it.

When I'm at my house, I'm not paranoid at all... Just when I'm smoking it other places. I get really paranoid when I'm smoking it in cars. Or anywhere outside.

The only paranoid I get on weed is about cops, but if I am in a home or something then I don't have a care in the world.

I have only tried shrooms once and I wasn't paranoid at all, there is way too much other stuff to try and figure out before paranoia comes into the picture, least it was like that for me.

Never get paranoid smoking weed, not even when I did it a few times in my parents house.

Just affects different people differently.

Now acid.....that makes you paranoid ;)

^^^
yea it does!

no paranoia here.

like kalisto said....there's just too much other stuff to dial in instead of being paranoid

*don't do the acid man*

I am a very paranoid person. I'm afraid that people are out to get me, all the time. But for some reason, when I smoke weed, I actually feel less paranoid.

Does anybody else have this?

hmm that is interesting, it might be because it calms you down. it is something i will look into later but not any time soon (i need to chill for a bit)

Paranoia was always little to none with me. Then again, I dont smoke ridiculous amounts, and I dont smoke often.

Well, I smoke weed about once or twice every month (not very often)..
When I smoke, I tend to get paranoia, but it seems to come in waves with me. For example, I'll smoke a few bongs and feel really mellowed out and acting more on reaction than thinking about it.. Then all of a sudden I'll become really self conscious and worry about my replys (when talking with mates), then once my brain has finished arguing with it's self as to why I shouldn't be paranoid I become relaxed again.. And then 5 minutes later my brain will switch and i'll become paranoid.. It's really quite strange. And this happens even if I am alone.

I think I become paranoid when smoking weed because when I am sober I am self conscious (I wouldn't called it parnoid) of myself anyway. So weed seems to enhance that sensation.

Anyhow, I do like to smoke weed (by myself) on the occassion, just so I can explore this 'problem' and see if I can try to resolve it..

Wow, this thread was start about 2 years ago! I think i missed the boat big time.

Are you fucking kidding?

Weed makes me paranoid as fuck. When I first did it, I was at my grandparent's house smoking a bong with my cousin. When I got back, I went into the hot tub and I was fuckin convinced that the aliens were watching me in the woods and whenever I thought I spotted them, I spotted them dancing.

Since then, the paranoia hasn't gotten that crazy, I just always think that everytime I drived while stoned, there's always a cop behind me. I once had a fight with myself in the mirror.

I always got super horny and paranoid as fuck, unless I was with a woman and we had sex...... and it would be the best sex ever. And I would smoke everything I could because I loved that feeling..... but I know it's a problem so I don't partake .... maybe once a year if that.

My paranoid delusions would stem from my feeling so good and then I would get thoughts that whoever gave/smoked it with me was out to put me into jail. I could come up with the greatest conspiracy theories known to man.

The way I would overcome after I learnt about the paranoids was I would ask myself why anyone would give a fuck whether I went to prison or stayed stoned or whatever the conspiracy theory was. I'd calm down and enjoy the buzz. Ah ego and paranoia just do not go together.

Weed doesn't make me paranoid, it actually helps me think less (which is why I smoke it when I do).

Mushrooms, on the other hand, fuck. Never again.

Every time I smoke weed, I end up posting in this sub-forum! So yeah.

Weed makes you paranoid, but it's usually nothing too over the top. Most of the time it's just over little things that don't matter, atleast for me.

How drugs effect you depends all on set and setting. So I guess you would get paranoid if you get high in that sort of mindstate.

http://img169.echo.cx/img169/2531/ba...r0911ef.th.jpg I know this shit is good but come on Makes you see helicopters :crazy:

well i smoked weed 12 times a day for 8 years and the only time i was paranoid was when i was at a keg party and the cops busted it up.
ive done acid and shrooms about 50-60 times and never had any problems with that either... acid has a bit of an edge to it but shrooms are real mellow!!!

good times, good times

I never new this was paranoid. I thought that it just help me become aware of the infinite possibilities of human interaction. What helps me when i get like this is to remember what I meant when I said it. If they didn't hear what I said then we can talk about it later. I am too busy being stoned to be paranoid.

Well you know they call them weed-flexes(or at least I do) for a reason. Something about slowing down your reaction time.

It is even funnier that I posted so long after you posted, heh

if any drug makes you unnecessarily paranoid, it's cocaine for sure.

From my experience of being a heavy pot smoker for about 5 years, one of the main reasons for me quitting was the paranoia. I thought that sometimes it was just the way I was (or maybe the weed convinced me thats what it was) but I had paranoia in my daily life even when I wasn't stoned.

All of my friends who smoke have paranoia, even if just in a small way, but it can be being more self conscious for instance. I however got to the brink of a panic attack, which just isn't me!

Pot was the only drug that made me paranoid - nothing except normal comedowns from ecstacy, mushrooms, coke or speed. Heh recreational drug use - sounds like I was a proper Junkie.

I think the paranoia comes from the fact that pot makes you think about things in huge depth and on random planes and the human brain just starts questioning and analysing everything, even yourself and the things happening to you.

I like that though. I do that sober. I did that before I started smoking.

I like that too - its one of the things i miss

Personally, Ive had only one paranoid high. It was the second time I had ever smoked, and since then, never have I been scared or paranoid while under marijuanas most wonderful influence.

I would agree that the secrecy of using the drug though could conure up some paranoia to some extent.

thats exactly the same for me...

and that one time was years and years ago when me and two mates were smoking buckets at ******'s mums house...
somehow (i have no idea how or why) we ended up wandering around the neighbourhood in the middle of the night...
then we ended up on some dirt track somewhere, running as fast as we possibly could absolutely convinced that the Blair Witch was chasing us...
it was extremely scary and we still have no idea where we were or where we went after or b4 that...

but i'v never been paranoid since then...

I have never experienced paranoia while I was high. I've only ever been either really relaxed, "giggly," hungry, or horny.

Now shrooms... that is a whole different story. I've only done them once, but man, those things were freakin' crazy. I did them on my college campus with my SO, and while were walking around the dorms, we saw a campus guard and I got pretty freaked out. Luckily I walked by him quickly because I definitely wanted to crawl into a corner and cry and tell him I was sorry for what I did. Then when we came back to my SO's room, I kept thinking I saw someone outside trying to get in. I had a definite feeling of paranoia go through me... started bouncing in place and rushing my SO to unlock the door... almost started crying. Interesting experience... but that's what the drug is supposed to do. ;)

The only drug that ever consistently made me feel paranoid while under the influence was cocaine. That stuff is terrible and I'll never do it again!

When I first smoked weed it made me paranoid, but I was 14 and worried that my parents would find out and I'd be in trouble more than anything else.

Now the most paranoid I get on it is when I'm driving at night, and I have headlights behind me. Makes me move the sack from my pocket to my sock, because I know that they'd NEVER find it there :rolleyes: (if it really is cops, and if I even get pulled over and searched).

I smoke weed everyday. More than once. I get paranoid in public though and at work. I deal with it. At home to sometimes too. I found out just don't smoke so much. If your too high it can mess with you and thats when paranoia sets in.

Here's a little info... I have never been paranoid myself. But as for the heart beating faster, this is true. Cannabis is a stimulant... read on... And for all your drug related questions and info... check out erowid.

The effects of smoking Cannabis are usually lighter than those of many other recreational psychoactive substances. People are generally capable of carrying out normal actions and activities while high.

POSITIVE

* mood lift
* relaxation, stress reduction
* creative, philosophical or deep thinking : ideas flow more easily
* increased appreciation of music. More aware of, deeper connection to music.
* increased awareness of senses. (eating, drinking, smell)
* change in experience of muscle fatigue. Pleasant body feel. Increase in body/mind connection.
* pain relief (headaches, cramps)
* reduced nausea, increased appetite (used medically for this)
* boring tasks or entertainment can become more interesting or funny

NEUTRAL

* general change in consciousness (as with many psychoactives)
* increased appetite, snacky-ness
* slowness (slow driving, talking)
* light closed-eye visuals (uncommon)
* tiredness, sleepiness, lethargy
* stimulation, inability to sleep (less common)
* blood shot eyes (more common with certain varieties of cannabis and inexperienced users)
* mouth dryness, sticky-mouth (varies with strain)
* interrupts linear memory. Difficulty following a train of thought.
* cheek, jaw, facial tension / numbness (less commonly reported)
* racing thoughts (especially at high doses)
* increased emotional impact of music
* Time sense altered: cars seem like they are moving too fast, time dilation and compression are common at higher doses

NEGATIVE

* nausea, especially in combination with alcohol, some pharmaceuticals, or other psychoactives
* coughing, asthma, upper respiratory problems
* difficulty with short term memory during effects and during periods of frequent use
* racing heart, agitation, feeling tense
* mild to severe anxiety
* panic attacks in sensitive users or with very high doses (oral use increases risk of getting too much)
* headaches
* dizziness, confusion
* lightheadedness or fainting (in cases of lowered blood pressure)
* paranoid & anxious thoughts more frequent
* possible psychological dependence on cannabis
* clumsiness, loss of coordination at high doses
* can precipitate or exacerbate latent or existing mental disorders

WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS

* mild to moderate, non life-threatening withdrawal symptoms occur after daily use in some users. These may last for 1-6 weeks after cessation of use and can include anxiety, anhedonia (reduced experience of pleasure), headaches, general unease/discomfort, difficulty sleeping, and a desire to smoke pot. Severity of symptoms is related to frequency of use and individual sensitivity.
* slight loss of appetite
* finding non-stoned life a bit dull, increased boredom

I have done the same thing for the past while.

I've been experienting with weed, trying to figure out how to solve this paranoia problem
so far, I've personally discovered this...

-It's important to work hard to keep your mind happy and to think love and beauty and the sweet smell of the earth calling you to play with it

-Don't smoke too much, The more you smoke the harder it is to get a "grip"

-Don't smoke "Skunk" aka incredibly high potent and strong weed. If you're going to smoke that, make sure it's the lightest kind.

-Get Good Sleep. When your mind is sleepy, you don't have the energy to keep your mind positive and instead you just "freak"

-Don't begin smoking weed thinking that you're going to try out things after you're high and they're going to be awesome. You'll end up playing xbox for 75 hours straight despite the fact that you HATE video games (if you catch my meaning)

-Music is great as long as you can relax your self and truly listen to the music (the lyrics, the individual instruments, etc...)

-Don't worry, be happy


Many people have made me feel bad for freaking out while I was high with them which is why I will never smoke with someone until I can control myself when I'm high by myself.

OTHERWISE, DUDE JUST GET A HOBBY AND FUCK THE WEED. IT'S NOT THAT GREAT EVEN WHEN YOU ARE LIKE HAVING A WONDERFUL HAPPY HIGH.

I rather be able to analyze my life and figure out who I am that try to keep my sanity for 5 hours of pure paranoid hell.

Yes! Finally, a drug thread. More specifically, weed.
Well, yes, weed makes me a bit paranoid, but there's nothing wrong with some healthy paranoia, is there? makes you more aware of your surroundins, IMO.
Me and my friends were talking about the effects of marijuana, and what we described it as was this: it increases (sometimes dramatically) your perceptions: sights, smells, especially sounds; However, while being sober, a good portion of the hearing, sights and other perception get filtered out (I personally relate it to computer resources, the inputs are reduced to avoid system overload). So cannabis, IMO, opens up those filters.
So with this increased perception comes several feelings. If there's people around that you don't know and who aren't high, paranoia: "do they know I'm high? Is there a cop near?"...If you're inside a "safe place", your friend's apartment, with good music on, then it just feels "good."

But holy crap, try playing a scary video game while high. I did it with left 4 dead, a zombie game. It'll make you much more immersed in the experience, and trust me, your reactions won't be slowed down.

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Nice to know other people do it too.
I knew ssjtwizta smoked, and fly, a few others here too, but this is a cool discovery.
Sometimes I'll smoke if I'm gonna be sitting for over an hour (i.e taking the train, I'll burn one down before I go wait for the train), and pack some music or a book with me.

Adding to the withdrawal symptoms:
Occasional random twitches in your neck, shoulders, back for no damn reason. Kinda feels like there's someone touching the back of your neck making your hairs stand up so bad that your body automatically twitches to make it go away.
Myself and about a dozen of my friends that have smoked and stopped have experienced this for over a year. It happens with higher frequency between 1 and 10 months and isn't so bad afterwards, but seems to disappear completely after about 1 1/2 years.

Also the most paranoid I have ever been was my first trip on DXM. I was smoking hookah in my car outside my parents house while tripping on it and I kept on thinking that someone was going to come up to the car and like open it and either like arrest me (cop) or kill me (some random tweaker) So I would lock the door. A couple minutes later I was like oh shit I'm tripping so much, what if this kills me or something, I want my parents to be able to find me and get in the car, so I'd unlock it. I would keep on going back and forth on this for hours in between hallucinations. It really didn't help when I could only see out of one eye when the trip started to come down. I was so freaked out thinking I would die that I got on myspace and wrote a blog of what I did and what was happening so others would know why I died. After I decided to just lay down and go to bed I would close my eyes and the room would still be there so I opened them and it was still there. I closed them and it was there but different, like a still picture so I couldn't like look somewhere else and see another part of my room like I could with my eyes open. Whatever I looked at before I closed my eyes remained the still picture very clear and vivid when my eyes were closed. I was so tripping and paranoid then because no matter what I couldn't turn off what I was seeing. My heartbeat has got up to 168bpm while on it, I noticed it was going rather fast so I turned watched the clock for 15 seconds counted the beats and multiplied by 4, it varied the times I did that from 130bpm to 168bpm. It was ridiculous.

A long time ago, I dated a musician who couldn't handle "pot' but loved LSD.

He said that the pot made him paranoid, but that the acid made him feel creative and happy.

Go figure.

For me, I stoppped smoking pot & snorting coke, cuz it made me very paranoid and unhappy after a while. Not to mention "Broke". Big Time. Now that I'm older and wiser, I prefer an nice chilled chardonnay.

(But note; I used to LOVE getting high & extremely twisted for a long, long time & had TONS of fun & no major problems)
And
Yes - No pets or children were harmed during the making of this post :)

In fact, all my "tripping buddies" have had beautiful, normal smart kids!

most of my friends smoke somewhat regularly. i've given it the 'old college try' but more often than not, weed doesn't do it for me. there's been a handful of times where i feel good, relaxed, stoned, whatever. But many times i feel dizzy, or paranoid. Paranoid as in not thinking we'll be raided by the cops, but if i say something, i'll think "oh man that was stupid, why did i say that, everyone thinks that was stupid" which is pretty weird for me because i'm a pretty social and outgoing guy and regularly 'talk to strangers' --- but in a very comfy setting with close friends, i get the paranoia. Pretty weird.

Skunk is the new Reefer Madness.

just do it and forget all the consequences and if weed doesn't do the trick definitely try heavier stuff. LOL I heard that meth stuff makes you big and strong. Try meth and PCP for the ultimate speed ball.

Were you high when you posted this?

Drunk atm and on 8 OTC sleeping pills, about to do some NO2 and drink some more, but that did make sense to me what he said. He said LOL before it as in joking about the meth, however that part about meth and PCP is kinda accurate, not that I have done either, but I am rather well educated about drugs and now only partake occasionally on some weekends and in those that are guaranteed not to interfere with work in the following week or show up on any drug tests.

I was high a quarter of some boomers, ten strip of that sydney, pack of roller skates, half zipper of nugget, ball of some yea, 6 boxes of whippets, 50cc of ron ron, 7-8 hits of DMT, and a glass of wine.

PS. I smoke rocks too.

lol, I have a hard time believing you'd even be able to operate a computer on that much. But I am getting the idea your posts are a little bit exaggerated. ;)

DXM is a serious drug, and there it is being sold over-the-counter in a store on every other street corner. Funny how the War on Drugs works. It's like most drug users don't even bother with it because it's a legal cough suppressant. But if it's illegal, man it must be good. The combination of DXM and weed is particularly intense and trippy, I mean full-on closed eye visuals like acid. So its not surprising you could get some intense paranoia as well.

I never had much problem with paranoia on DXM or coke but on weed definitely and occasionally psychedelics. I have never found much of a solution other than (1) try to remind myself that I took a drug to get this way and everything will be back to normal in a few hours and (2) wait to come off it. Experience also helps. When you've had several experiences freaking out paranoid over what turned out to be nothing at all you begin to recognize it as nothing to worry about. It's just another feeling or emotion that you can experience like all the others, and some drugs are unpredictable. Also, there are always opiates, benzos, and other downers. I hate to recommend more drugs to solve a drug-related problem, but they could do the trick. It's always good to have a sedative around if you are about to take a possibly intense trip. Just don't take more than the minimum you need if you're already too jacked up on something else or you could have bigger problems than paranoia.

[QUOTE=Axiom_e;1784052]I never new this was paranoid. I thought that it just help me become aware of the infinite possibilities of human interaction. What helps me when i get like this is to remember what I meant when I said it. If they didn't hear what I said then we can talk about it later. I am too busy being stoned to be paranoid.



Well you know they call them weed-flexes(or at least I do) for a reason. Something about slowing down your reaction time.

I just saw this thread, the reason i came on is because i also feel the same way about "weedflex", i was here because i have grown tired of these weed flex's so i was starting to get paranoid about being crazy as i get into a weed flex i too study human interactions but the thing is that ive been deconstructing all my interactions constantly so when im high its like im trying to pre-empt what im saying, i go into bullet time and analyze myself so essentially i am trying to predict what i am saying almost all the time, plus everyone else in sufficient relation to me, which is quite ridiculous and now quite tiring too. Its not what came first the chicken or the egg its like, the chicken and the egg arguing with each other about who came first!

I'll almost always smoke something before anything like a bus ride, a train journey, walking somewhere, going to watch an episode of some shit, going to a movie, going to dinner, lol.

I have found that when all the paranoia is removed from my life, I miss it.

Paranoia adds to the thrill of living.
Surviving through danger, real or imaginary, is triumph.

Weed doesn't make me paranoid though.
I smoke it so rarely anymore, whenever I do it just makes me goofy as hell, and talkative.

Well said.

Weed will make me paranoid if I over do it. Smoking too much or smoking potent bud will cause paranoia and anxiety attacks. I have tried shrooms twice and both times I was miserable. I hear they are enjoyable and I don't doubt it. Although, I won't risk going bat shit crazy again, for several hours, in order to find my correct dose.

Too much of anything will have negative effects. Drugs and alcohol included.

I become anxious and self-conscious around others when sampling hallucinogens, but I've never experienced paranoia. Granted, most of my infrequent experimentation occurs alone, in a serene and familiar environment.

Pot paranoia is nothing compared to the delusions you get after a few days straight on amphetamines. Running to the front door every five minutes (at 4 AM, of course) to listen, because you're convinced the neighbors are outside your door watching you through the keyhole, listening, and monitoring your every move... Hearing their voices every time you make a move (of course, when you pause to listen, they stop)... I don't miss those days.

I find Kush so mind numbing that it is pure enjoyment and very little paranoia.

Some people, the more emotionally laid back, relaxed, maybe stable, can take
weed and most drugs ok, little problem, more positive, surely.
But highly creative people, who tend oversensitivity, overstimulated,
overeverything - artists, poets, writers - can become paranoid in a way
that is not fun, not ok, not cool, not hip, not bearable.
This cannot be brushed over because its politically cool to say that a little
paranoia is ok, good for the soul, getting to know oneself deely and all the
nonsense. Be the highly over the top creative one and you are a goner,
which is why I think it should be banned except for medical reasons when
it really can help disabled people who, in fact, dont tend to be the types
to get crazy with it. When you first take it you dont know how it will effect
you, for many its wonderful, but for many its nightmarish and can trigger
and exacerbate underlying psychosis in those so inclined. There is no
getting away from the fact that no one knows what it will do to them til
theyve taken it, this is one case where I think banning something thats
fine for many is justified by the anguish and torture it can bring to many
others. I usually dont like anything being banned for the sake of some;
but where mental health, stability, sanity are concerned, thats too
important to mess with.

drugs are fun to take
too much of anything is
of course bad for you

Hi Everyone just joined.:grumpy:

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Hey for those of you who are getting paranoid or are experiencing bad side effects: keep in mind that when you purchase weed of the street it's most likely random parts of a marijuana plant sprayed down in raid (thats right raid--the stuff you use to kill roaches. If you ever heard of lacing weed that is how you do it). Then spray the weed down with deer-sent-cover up(skunk flavor), compress it into buds, put it in a plastic baggy with orange peels, let dry and absorb the sent. The result is good smelling stuff, and if it is compressed and dyed properly it looks like dank buds, but most likely this is the type of shit you find in a little zip and its often served up as "kill"(which is considered "good" shwag). This is exactly why weed needs to be legalized, because there is always someone who is either lazy or plain down and out who will do that and sell it to you--don't ask me how I know .

Trust me you'll never get paranoid if you're smoking weed that you personally watched getting clipped of the plant. I am tired of seeing "i got paranoid offa smoking weed"--because 1) you're not smoking smokable parts 2) your fucking smoking roach spray! So this is a shout out to the paranoid people:REASSESS THE SOURCE OF YOUR WEED BE4 TALKING SHIT!

...paranoid fucker.


anyway, i believe its just all just a part of breaking the law. whenever i smoke pot in a comfortable environment i don't get the least bit paranoid.

meth is a different story for me. it makes me want to investigate every noise i fucking hear. one of the main reasons i dont fuck with it anymore is the paranoia.