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MSD 04-23-2003 06:40 AM

Post a conspiracy
 
So, there are millions of conspiracy theories out there, some reasonable, some just ridiculous. This is your chance to share yours. If you can't think of one you believe, invent one that sounds reasonable and that kooky tinfoil-hat people would catch on to. My only request is that you keep it non-racist and don't do anything that will get this moved to Tilted Nonsense.

My theory centers around the Red Cross Blood drives after 9/11. They knew that they were collecting more than they could possibly use. Why? It was the first time that they could be sure that huge numbers of people would donate. They were working with the NSA to create a national DNA database, a way to identify anyone from the smallest remain, or to track you by as little as the fingerprint you left on a restaurant glass.

I have a lot more, but I want discussion, not me lecturing to a bunch of people who think I'm nuts.

Give me what you got.

maximusveritas 04-23-2003 06:59 AM

I believe in the "vast right wing conspiracy", although that's not really too controversial.

hiredgun 04-23-2003 07:48 AM

The big media show of Iraqis pulling down the Saddam statue was a huge hoax. Wider camera angles show that the entire square was sealed off by American tanks, and that at most there were 150-200 people involved in the event. Most of them were American servicemen, and the Iraqis involved were Ahmad Chalabi and members of his Iraqi National Congress, a party banned under the rule of the Ba'ath party. These expats were flown back into Iraq by the US during the Baghdad campaign.

This is less of a theory and can more or less be proved, I'll post a link when I get home, I have it bookmarked there.

boatin 04-23-2003 09:15 AM

Aside from David Stern changing the playoff rules (in midseason) to allow a best of 7 winner in the first round so that the Lakers could win, I'm not much on conspiracy theorist.

The red cross one is pretty spooky.

How about 3,000 or so Floridians (from one county) getting together and voting for Buchanan to swing the election?

druptight 04-23-2003 10:42 AM

I think the "liberal media" conspiracy is pretty funny. I mean are people actually watching the news, or just taking the republican's word that the media really is liberal???

stan the man 04-23-2003 11:08 AM

i got this out of the paper today i think its fitting

American astronauts didn't land on the moon -- the whole thing was faked in a studio. The U.S. military is suppressing evidence of UFOs. Lady Di's death wasn't an accident -- she was rubbed out by rogue members of the British secret service. And the Columbia space shuttle disaster was staged -- possibly with the help of Israeli astronaut Col. Ilan Ramon, who was really a spy collecting information on Iraq -- to distract attention from events in the Middle East.

Oh -- and Elvis lives.

Many might dismiss such tales. But as the world careens toward chaos, more and more people are lending more and more credence to the gossip of the global village -- conspiracy theories.

And one Londoner is leading the way. According to retired University of Western Ontario professor A. K. Dewdney -- who's quick to call his research a "scenario construction" rather than a conspiracy theory -- we've been hoodwinked about the events of Sept. 11.

Dewdney, who left his teaching position with UWO's computer science department seven years ago but who still holds a part-time position at the University of Waterloo, has devoted countless hours to debunking what he calls "the Bush scenario" -- that the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon were the work of Muslim terrorists.

Dewdney cites "anomalies" that, he says, cast doubt on the accepted version of that tragedy. He poses the following questions: (1) Why were the doomed flights not intercepted by military jets? (2) Why did the names of the alleged terrorists not appear on published passenger lists? (3) Why was only one black box recovered? (4) Why do his measurements show the aircraft that hit the WTC's north tower and the Pentagon were small corporate jets? (5) How did authorities track down connected terrorists so quickly? (6) How did passengers make outgoing calls when cellphones are virtually useless from aircraft at cruising altitude?

Dewdney published his first theory -- entitled Ghost Riders in the Sky -- on the Internet (feralnews.com). It suggested small canisters of sarin, a fast-acting lethal nerve gas, were hidden in the aircraft and then triggered by a timer or radio signal, killing all aboard. The planes were then diverted to their targets by an implanted guidance system.

Now Dewdney suggests that after takeoff, the four doomed aircraft were ordered to land at a nearby deserted base.

Following the landing, officials herded passengers off the planes and told them the aircraft were being searched for explosives.

Dewdney says while the aircraft were supposedly being searched, officials installed guidance modules. All passengers and crew were put aboard United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania, thereby eliminating all witnesses.

He says the three aircraft that struck the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon were empty, controlled from afar by implanted guidance systems.

"This explains everything," says Dewdney.

This past Saturday, Dewdney spiralled aloft above London in a rented Cessna to test the crucial wedge of his theory -- that cellphones become virtually useless at cruising altitude.

Dewdney says the frantic calls from passengers aboard the doomed aircraft were fake. The voices, he says, belonged to trained operators.

"If you see this as a horrendous crime carried out by the intelligence arm of a foreign country with whom the United States has extremely close ties, it does actually make a lot of sense," he says.

Dewdney says he suspects Israel's spy agency Mossad as the perpetrators. The motive, he says, was to justify America's anti-Arab stance in the Mideast "so that the U.S. gets its oil and the territorial control that it wants."

Dewdney is a Muslim, but he says that's an irrelevant fact that merely muddies the waters.

Some people may agree with Dewdney's scenario. Some may say his theory is ludicrous and insulting.

But I think Dewdney is a symptom of our times. If the U.S. government says it must invade Iraq to uncover weapons of mass destruction and then -- at least, so far -- finds no such weapons, many people will reasonably conclude that they've been lied to.

And if they lied about that, maybe they're lying about other things, too.

What's certain is that lies abound, rumours persist and truth evades us.

And some will always seek solace in answers that defy common sense.

The_Dude 04-23-2003 01:33 PM

the other thread i posted about all these congressmen livin in these church like deals where they gather and do weird stuff.


they're tryin to take over theh world!

ManWithAPlan 04-23-2003 04:09 PM

Microsoft releasing crappy products so that people will buy the updates in hopes of fixes

rekinom 04-23-2003 06:30 PM

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The_Dude 04-23-2003 06:32 PM

right wing conspiracy......oh yeah

Quadraton 04-23-2003 07:05 PM

I prefer the Red Wing conspiracy. They were all chloroformed before playing Anaheim.

John Henry 04-24-2003 09:59 AM

I was thinking about posting this thread the other day. Hey, STOP READING MY THOUGHTS.

Seriously, though, I have conspiracy theories coming out of my ears. I'll be back when I've got them in order enough to sound lucid.

Downtownat10 04-24-2003 12:15 PM

Ho ho ho. You want a conspiracy theory? Have a look at this:

http://www.serendipity.li/wtc.html#w...ually_happened

It wasn't terrorists that bombed the WTC, but rather the US Government. They killed 3000 people just so they could colonize Afghanistan.

Oh, and if you believe that, you should punch yourself in the balls.

MSD 04-25-2003 08:21 AM

They were going to invade Afghanistan anyway, 9/11 just gave them a convewnient excuse. Hamid Karzai is a former US oil executive, and there were plans made in August to invade Afghanistan and build an oil pipeline from Uzbekistan too Pakistan that the Taliban wouldn't allow.


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