Old story: "did we go to the moon?" - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

RonRyan85 · 03-26-2009, 02:14 PM

I HEARD on C2C a few nights ago this guy who claims AMERICA did not go to the
Moon in 1969 or in any of the other 6 times we said we did. He claims that we could
not have sent men through the Van Allen radiation belt that surrounds the Earth and
survive the 20,000 mile thick belt. Most scientists say that as the Apollo Moon Ship
is traveling at around 25,000 miles an hour the Astronauts did not spend enough time
in the area to bother them and the flight capsule offers some protection anyway.

My main reason to know that we did go to the Moon 6 times is that the Russians were
in the race to the Moon and wanted to beat us to claim themselves winner. THEY were watching
our every move and would have screamed to every News paper and radio and TV news
if they had not seen and followed the Americans to the Moon with their Radar and their
telescopes. Everyone knew we went to the MOON except a few jerks who wanted to
cause trouble and were not very smart in science and physics.

This guy who was on the radio had a bunch of other ideas that have all been talked
about and explained away years ago. Why no stars appeared in the NASA Moon photos and why the American flag appears to wave on a airless Moon? All too easy
if you know what happened. Buzz Aldrin and Armstrong did all they said they did.

One thing that I would like to see happen is to have Armstrong and Aldrin on 60 Minutes for a 30 minute interview and have them talk about their trip and their
exploring where no one had gone before.

Leto · 03-26-2009, 06:48 PM

pshawww... That easy to confirm. Just look up the ground level photography on Google Earth. I'm sure they've sent their truck there by now. Um... they stiffened the America flag with wire to make it stick out. *Sigh...

ASU2003 · 03-26-2009, 08:50 PM

YouTube - Mythbusters Moon flag waving hoax

YouTube - Mythbusters Moon Hoax Retroreflectors

And, even though some may say there could be some photoshop work done, there will be a new lunar satelite that will image and map out the Moon in high enough resolution to find parts left behind.

There is also a $5 million dollar reward if you send a probe to the Moon and take a picture of a landing site.

balderdash111 · 04-01-2009, 07:29 AM

RonRyan - I am not sure if I can tell your position here. You seem to know that we went to the moon and agree that the various hoax theories have been discredited.

If I am right, why is this post here? Obviously, you have the right to post what you want, but I am curious as to what your point was.

ASU2003 · 04-04-2009, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonRyan85

One thing that I would like to see happen is to have Armstrong and Aldrin on 60 Minutes for a 30 minute interview and have them talk about their trip and their
exploring where no one had gone before.

Neil Armstrong, 60 Minutes Interview

It might not be 30 minutes long, and it might not ask the hard questions in this interview. But, sometimes actually doing something is easier than faking it.

MSD · 04-06-2009, 07:39 AM

Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy: Bad TV

RonRyan85 · 04-06-2009, 08:46 AM

THANKS ASU2003. I had never seen that video from 60 minutes. Thanks for uploading it.

MSD · 04-07-2009, 09:45 AM

If I'm ever having a bad day, this video can always pick me up. It adds nothing to the debate, but I agree with the sentiment ol' Buzz displays.

YouTube - Buzz Aldrin punch

edit: and he has a great sense of humor

YouTube - Ali G - Buzz Aldrin

Iliftrocks · 04-07-2009, 09:59 AM

Aren't there vids of the rocket making it to the moon, from an Earth perspective? Surely if Russia was tracking, they used telescopes with cameras on them... That'd probably shut up the riff-raff. Then again maybe not

By the way, why wouldn't Russia call the US out on a fake?

Mister Coaster · 04-13-2009, 11:22 AM

In Soviet Russia... Moon lands on you!

Sorry, back to the debate...

robot_parade · 04-13-2009, 07:55 PM

The moon landing hoax thing is one of the sillier 'theories' out there, but not really the silliest.

FuglyStick · 04-13-2009, 08:57 PM

That's just scratching the surface of crazy
Flat Earth Society - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

MSD · 04-22-2009, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuglyStick

That's just scratching the surface of crazy
Flat Earth Society - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Recent scholarship finds that since about the 3rd century BC, virtually no educated person in Western civilization has believed in a flat Earth.[1][3]"
Flat Earth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's a big troll. Nobody actually believes it.

robot_parade · 04-22-2009, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSD

"Recent scholarship finds that since about the 3rd century BC, virtually no educated person in Western civilization has believed in a flat Earth.[1][3]"
Flat Earth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's a big troll. Nobody actually believes it.

Well, no educated, not-mentally-ill person does, anyway.

The Flat Earth Society -- Home

OzOz · 05-08-2009, 03:24 PM

Hey MSD, thanks for the Buzz Aldrin punch video. Watching it carefully has led me to realise that there is something wrong about it.

Note first that Bart Sibrel (the one *supposedly* on the wrong end of Buzz's fist) says that Buzz Aldrin didn't land on the Moon. One of the reasons for saying that is that there aren't any stars visible in any of the photos from the Moon.

Now let's turn this around. Note that when a person is hit in the head, stars are clearly visible circling their head. (See almost any Roadrunner cartoon.)

In this video, no stars are visible around Sibrel's head. This proves that Buzz Aldrin didn't land a punch on Bart Sibrel.

We need to get to the bottom of this cover-up.

MSD · 05-11-2009, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robot_parade

Well, no educated, not-mentally-ill person does, anyway.

The Flat Earth Society -- Home

Like I said, it's all a big troll.

fastom · 05-13-2009, 12:22 AM

Silly theory if you have bought into the idea that they landed on the moon. Look at it objectively and it isn't so obvious.

What do you make of this?

YouTube - Neil Armstrong - Nasa Lies.

Zenturian · 05-20-2009, 07:54 PM

Anyone can go out and buy a nice telescope. Now go out in the woods away from the light pollution of the city. Then aim it at the moon, and after a while you can find the landing pod and stuff. Easiest conspiracy to debunk when you can see the proof with your own eyes.

MSD · 05-21-2009, 10:36 AM

I'm pretty sure the moon landing sites are too small to resolve clearly on an earth-based telescope.

Sun Tzu · 05-22-2009, 09:23 AM

Well at least we will have verification within this generation.

Moon rover targets Apollo 11 landing site - Space.com- msnbc.com

03-26-2009, 02:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
RonRyan85 Insane Location: Lone Star State,USA	Old story: "did we go to the moon?" I HEARD on C2C a few nights ago this guy who claims AMERICA did not go to the Moon in 1969 or in any of the other 6 times we said we did. He claims that we could not have sent men through the Van Allen radiation belt that surrounds the Earth and survive the 20,000 mile thick belt. Most scientists say that as the Apollo Moon Ship is traveling at around 25,000 miles an hour the Astronauts did not spend enough time in the area to bother them and the flight capsule offers some protection anyway. My main reason to know that we did go to the Moon 6 times is that the Russians were in the race to the Moon and wanted to beat us to claim themselves winner. THEY were watching our every move and would have screamed to every News paper and radio and TV news if they had not seen and followed the Americans to the Moon with their Radar and their telescopes. Everyone knew we went to the MOON except a few jerks who wanted to cause trouble and were not very smart in science and physics. This guy who was on the radio had a bunch of other ideas that have all been talked about and explained away years ago. Why no stars appeared in the NASA Moon photos and why the American flag appears to wave on a airless Moon? All too easy if you know what happened. Buzz Aldrin and Armstrong did all they said they did. One thing that I would like to see happen is to have Armstrong and Aldrin on 60 Minutes for a 30 minute interview and have them talk about their trip and their exploring where no one had gone before. Last edited by RonRyan85; 04-07-2009 at 01:26 PM..

03-26-2009, 06:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
Leto Junkie Location: The Danforth	pshawww... That easy to confirm. Just look up the ground level photography on Google Earth. I'm sure they've sent their truck there by now. Um... they stiffened the America flag with wire to make it stick out. *Sigh... __________________ You said you didn't give a fuck about hockey And I never saw someone say that before You held my hand and we walked home the long way You were loosening my grip on Bobby Orr http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Leto_Atreides_I

04-01-2009, 07:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
balderdash111 Psycho	RonRyan - I am not sure if I can tell your position here. You seem to know that we went to the moon and agree that the various hoax theories have been discredited. If I am right, why is this post here? Obviously, you have the right to post what you want, but I am curious as to what your point was. __________________ A little silliness now and then is cherished by the wisest men. -- Willy Wonka

04-07-2009, 09:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
Iliftrocks Junkie Location: Near Raleigh, NC	Aren't there vids of the rocket making it to the moon, from an Earth perspective? Surely if Russia was tracking, they used telescopes with cameras on them... That'd probably shut up the riff-raff. Then again maybe not By the way, why wouldn't Russia call the US out on a fake? __________________ bill hicks - "I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out."

04-13-2009, 11:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mister Coaster Big & Brassy Location: The "Canyon"	In Soviet Russia... Moon lands on you! Sorry, back to the debate... __________________ If you have any poo... fling it NOW!

04-06-2009, 07:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy: Bad TV

04-06-2009, 08:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
RonRyan85 Insane Location: Lone Star State,USA	THANKS ASU2003. I had never seen that video from 60 minutes. Thanks for uploading it.

04-13-2009, 07:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
robot_parade Junkie Location: San Antonio, TX	The moon landing hoax thing is one of the sillier 'theories' out there, but not really the silliest.

04-13-2009, 08:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
FuglyStick WHEEEE! Whee! Whee! WHEEEE! Location: Southern Illinois	That's just scratching the surface of crazy Flat Earth Society - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia __________________ AZIZ! LIGHT!

05-08-2009, 03:24 PM	#15 (permalink)
OzOz Psycho Location: Right here, right now.	Hey MSD, thanks for the Buzz Aldrin punch video. Watching it carefully has led me to realise that there is something wrong about it. Note first that Bart Sibrel (the one supposedly on the wrong end of Buzz's fist) says that Buzz Aldrin didn't land on the Moon. One of the reasons for saying that is that there aren't any stars visible in any of the photos from the Moon. Now let's turn this around. Note that when a person is hit in the head, stars are clearly visible circling their head. (See almost any Roadrunner cartoon.) In this video, no stars are visible around Sibrel's head. This proves that Buzz Aldrin didn't land a punch on Bart Sibrel. We need to get to the bottom of this cover-up. __________________ Maybe you should put some shorts on or something, if you wanna keep fighting evil today. Last edited by OzOz; 05-08-2009 at 03:31 PM..

05-20-2009, 07:54 PM	#18 (permalink)
Zenturian Banned	Anyone can go out and buy a nice telescope. Now go out in the woods away from the light pollution of the city. Then aim it at the moon, and after a while you can find the landing pod and stuff. Easiest conspiracy to debunk when you can see the proof with your own eyes.

05-21-2009, 10:36 AM	#19 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	I'm pretty sure the moon landing sites are too small to resolve clearly on an earth-based telescope.

05-22-2009, 09:23 AM	#20 (permalink)
Sun Tzu Conspiracy Realist Location: The Event Horizon	Well at least we will have verification within this generation. Moon rover targets Apollo 11 landing site - Space.com- msnbc.com __________________ *To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit.- Stephen Hawking*