fact check anyone?
 

What do you all think of this stuff?

I came across this today:

here is the direct link to the forum discussion:

Americas Top 20 Facts of (Law) Believe it or Not

Factoids?*
This will blow your mind.


1. The IRS is not a U.S. Government Agency. It is an Agency of the IMF. (Diversified Metal Products
v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967,
Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391.)


2. The IMF is an Agency of the UN. (Blacks Law Dictionary 6th Ed. Pg. 816)


3. The U.S. Has not had a Treasury since 1921. (41 Stat. Ch.214 pg. 654)


4. The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF. (Presidential Documents Volume 29-No.4 pg.113, 22 U.S.C.
285-288)


5. The United States does not have any employees because there is no longer a United States. No more
reorganizations. After over 200 years of operating under bankruptcy its finally over. (Executive
Order 12803) Do not personate one of the creditors or share holders or you will go to Prison.18
U.S.C. 914


6. The FCC, CIA, FBI, NASA and all of the other alphabet gangs were never part of the United States
government. Even though the "US Government" held shares of stock in the various Agencies. (U.S. V.
Strang , 254 US 491, Lewis v. US, 680 F.2d, 1239)


7. Social Security Numbers are issued by the UN through the IMF. The Application for a Social
Security Number is the SS5 form. The Department of the Treasury (IMF) issues the SS5 not the Social
Security Administration. The new SS5 forms do not state who or what publishes them, the earlier SS5
forms state that they are Department of the Treasury forms. You can get a copy of the SS5 you filled
out by sending form SSA-L996 to the SS Administration. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B 422.103 (b)
(2) (2) Read the cites above)


8. There are no Judicial courts in America and there has not been since 1789. Judges do not enforce
Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators enforce Statutes and Codes. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464,
Keller v. PE 261 US 428, 1 Stat. 138-178)


9. There have not been any Judges in America since 1789. There have just been Administrators. (FRC
v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428 1Stat. 138-178)


10. According to the GATT you must have a Social Security number. House Report (103-826)


11. We have One World Government, One World Law and a One World Monetary System. *


12. The UN is a One World Super Government. *


13. No one on this planet has ever been free. This planet is a Slave Colony. There has always been a
One World Government. It is just that now it is much better organized and has changed its name as of
1945 to the United Nations. *


14. New York City is defined in the Federal Regulations as the United Nations. Rudolph Gulliani
stated on C-Span that "New York City was the capital of the World" and he was correct. (20 CFR
chapter 111, subpart B 422.103 (b) (2) (2)


15. Social Security is not insurance or a contract, nor is there a Trust Fund. (Helvering v. Davis
301 US 619, Steward Co. V. Davis 301 US 548.)


16. Your Social Security check comes directly from the IMF which is an Agency of the UN. (Look at it
if you receive one. It should have written on the top left United States Treasury.)


17. You own no property, slaves can't own property. Read the Deed to the property that you think is
yours. You are listed as a Tenant. (Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session)


18. The most powerful court in America is not the United States Supreme Court but, the Supreme Court
of Pennsylvania. (42 Pa.C.S.A. 502)


19. The Revolutionary War was a fraud. See (22, 23 and 24)


20. The King of England financially backed both sides of the Revolutionary war. (Treaty at
Versailles July 16, 1782, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80)


21. You can not use the Constitution to defend yourself because you are not a party to it.
(Padelford Fay & Co. v. The Mayor and Alderman of The City of Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520)


22. America is a British Colony. (THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, NOT A LAND MASS AND IT EXISTED
BEFORE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE BRITISH TROOPS DID NOT LEAVE UNTIL 1796.) Respublica v. Sweers
1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116, The Society for Propagating the Gospel, &c. V. New Haven
8 Wheat 464, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles of Association October 20,
1774.)


23. Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213)


24. The Pope can abolish any law in the United States. (Elements of Ecclesiastical Law Vol.1 53-54)


25. A 1040 form is for tribute paid to Britain. (IRS Publication 6209)


26. The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of conquest and discovery. (Papal
Bulls of 1455 and 1493)


27. The Pope has ordered the genocide and enslavement of millions of people. (Papal Bulls of 1455
and 1493)


28. The Pope's laws are obligatory on everyone. (Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec, lib, ix., c. vii., n.
4. Prati, 1844)(Syllabus, prop 28, 29, 44)


29. We are slaves and own absolutely nothing not even what we think are our children. (Tillman v.
Roberts 108 So. 62, Van Koten v. Van Koten 154 N.E. 146, Senate Document 43 & 73rd Congress 1st
Session, Wynehammer v. People 13 N.Y. REP 378, 481)


30. Military Dictator George Washington divided the States (Estates) into Districts. (Messages and
papers of the Presidents Vo 1, pg 99. Websters 1828 dictionary for definition of Estate.)


31. "The People" does not include you and me. (Barron v. Mayor & City Council of Baltimore. 32 U.S.
243)


32. The United States Government was not founded upon Christianity. (Treaty of Tripoli 8 Stat 154.)


33. It is not the duty of the police to protect you. Their job is to protect the Corporation and
arrest code breakers. Sapp v. Tallahasee, 348 So. 2nd. 363, Reiff v. City of Philadelphia, 477
F.Supp. 1262, Lynch v. N.C. Dept of Justice 376 S.E. 2nd. 247.


34. Everything in the "United States" is For Sale: roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, water,
prisons airports etc. I wonder who bought Klamath lake. Did anyone take the time to check?
(Executive Order 12803)


35. We are Human capital. (Executive Order 13037)


36. The UN has financed the operations of the United States government for over 50 years and now
owns every man, women and child in America. The UN also holds all of the Land in America in Fee
Simple. *


37. The good news is we don't have to fulfill "our" fictitious obligations. You can discharge a
fictitious obligation with another's fictitious obligation. *


38. The depression and World War II were a total farce. The United States and various other
companies were making loans to others all over the World during the Depression. The building of
Germanys infrastructure in the 1930's including the Railroads was financed by the United States.
That way those who call themselves "Kings," "Prime Ministers," and "Fuher,"etc could sit back and
play a game of chess using real people. Think of all of the Americans, Germans etc. who gave their
lives thinking they were defending their Countries which didn't even exist. The millions of innocent
people who died for nothing. Isn't it obvious why Switzerland is never involved in these fiascoes?
That is where the "Bank of International Settlements" is located. Wars are manufactured to keep your
eye off the ball. You have to have an enemy to keep the illusion of "Government" in place. *


39. The "United States" did not declare Independence from Great Britain or King George. *


40. Guess who owns the UN?

i do

interesting read, but sure most of the quirky ones have been superceded in some form. like the pope abolishing law in the states or owning the world. i bet osama thinks he owns the world too through conquest and discovery

That was double the number of facts the title promised.

To address, of course I knew of some of the so-called facts, such as those that pertain to the United States' operations in terms of monetary distributions and reallocations, but most of the latter observations seem to be more of "eye-opening opines" that seek to be more conspiracy theory than actual & useful knowledge.


How are we supposed to take this in, necessarily? I suppose I can see others running down the list discussing each topic individually until we cover each bulletpoint, but I don't rightly see the point. These look to be mere suppositions, and I think fact-checking them would be the first assignment any one of us would of asked. Such as I was taught, "facts" don't include words such as "farce" and "fraud". And what does the Pope have to with my household belongings?

If anything at all, even though I have not yet watched it, these could very well be the outline of the "documentary hypothesis" script for 'Zeitgeist: Addendum', since most everything listed looks to question the United States gov't and monetary holdings.

I do agree that the US has some oblivious lies some take for absolute fact, but we're changing to the Amero anytime now, right? It'll be resolved then. :surprised:

Before this thread is closed (and I'd like to see it remain, in Tilted Paranoia at least), here's another link that clears up some points: GrossErrors

Reallly? I mean come on..

this is what I was asking for. Thanks!

I tried to check the facts, but came short on some of them. This helps out alot.

well there was a video that I watched that has a booklet from the UN. that says they want to be done with military power under the states, but with the UN to have them as Peace Troops basically.


here is a nice video that I should have posted in the beginning.

as far as locking it down. I did send a PM to you.

As far as moving it. Well yes, you may know better than me where this should go.

I actually checked on some of these and they werent spot on, but they raised questions, so if I had put it in "tilted paronoia" I didnt want everyone to assume that this is what I wanted.

but if you see fit to put it there. by all means.

Also to delete it? again that is up to you. I just wanted to raise discussion about these.

Most of your facts are not facts at all. For instance, the one about GATT requiring SSNs is patently ridiculous; the first SSNs were issued in 1936 as part of FDR's New Deal and the establishment of Social Security, while GATT was agreed upon following WWII--over 10 years later.

This belongs in Paranoia.

Thanks for expanding on your own thoughts. I'll leave the thread open, but it really doesn't belong in Tilted Life. I've looked around a bit and almost every time I find this somewhere, it's on some conspiracy theorist forum (There's AlienExistence, Illuminati-News, AboveTopSecret, and GodLikeProductions, to name a few). This should tell you something about how valid most of this information is.

Sadly, Snopes doesn't have a page for this, but there is a discussion in the Snopes forum with some information.

Thanks for the updates all.

i wonder where I was at, when this chain mail circulated. lol..

I do see the inconsistancies once I start to research more.

I did look up Social Securities, and did see the dates that dont match up, and never mentioned the owning of it to the GATT.


good forum talk. quite entertaining actually.

Snopes needs to get on this. lol