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Sticky 02-02-2005 12:30 PM

Albums From Beginging To End
 
There are some albums that are just a set of songs and then there are albums that are a single cohesive album where each song fits with the other and the a,bum is arranged in the proper order. In these albums no single song is necessarily a hit yet as an album all toghether they rival any hit song anyday. Songs in these types of albums flow one into the other as if a story is being told.

I am talking about albums where there is not a single song that does not fit the album.

Do you know what I am talking about?
Do you have any albums that you feel fit this description?

Albums that I consider in this category are:
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of The Moon
Radiohead - OK Computer
Radiohead - Kid A

hambone 02-02-2005 12:38 PM

Ok, cheap answer: The Decline - NOFX

it is only 1 song....an 18 minute song, but 1 song nonetheless

i need to think some more about this one...

02-02-2005 12:50 PM

Well, Agoraphobic Nosebleed's 100 song 3" CD basically just sounded like one song. That one was titled "Altered States of America / Blotter Acid Eucharist"
The Flaming Lips' "Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots"

grendel 02-02-2005 01:22 PM

Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
Marillion - Brave

there are lots of albums that i would put in this category, but then i'm not the kind of guy to skip around when listening to music. i generally put a CD on and listen all the way through. that is changing a bit as i just recently got an MP3 player (and currently have about 70% of my CD collection encoded and loaded on it) and i've been enjoying doing the shuffle thing on it. it's like a radio station that only plays stuff i like...

caz 02-02-2005 01:28 PM

Definately D'Angelo's "Brown Sugar" I can let the whole album play and just relax.

grendel 02-02-2005 01:40 PM

a few others:

Roger Waters - Radio KAOS
Pink Floyd - The Wall
The Who - Tommy
Frank Zappa - Joe's Garage

Lak 02-02-2005 03:17 PM

yes yes:

Tool - Lateralus
The Mars Volta - DeLoused In The Comatorium
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile (well, almost every song fits)

Coppertop 02-02-2005 03:25 PM

Just about anything by Dream Theater would qualify. Doubly so for Pink Floyd. Also Delirium Cordia by Fantomas (one 74 minute song).

irseg 02-02-2005 03:40 PM

Whoa!
Yep! The term for these are "concept albums", where the whole thing comes together around one central theme.

In the past 2 or so days I've listened to:

-Dark Side of the Moon
-Radio KAOS
-Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
-Kid A

...all of which have been mentioned in this thread already. Plus Amnesiac and Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking. And yes all of those are definitely best listened to in album format. They're more like 50 minute long songs.

If I have Winamp on shuffle mode and a song out of one of these comes up, I usually either just skip it or put the whole album on. It's not the same otherwise.

Harry Cox 02-02-2005 04:38 PM

Most Floyd albums would fit into this category.

What about Rush "2112"?

snowy 02-02-2005 04:43 PM

It doesn't have to be just a "concept album" for an overarching story to emerge from the songs. For instance, U2's album "Achtung Baby" isn't a concept album, but the songs definitely tell a story of sorts from beginning to end.

My favorite true concept album, though, would have to be Floater's "Angels in the Flesh and Devils in the Bone."

Tophat665 02-02-2005 05:34 PM

Harry Cox - 2112 doesn't all hang together, and neither does Hemispheres. On Vinyl, each of these have one side that is one long song - 2112 and Cygnus XI respectively, and the other side is assorted (though still rockin').

This was a big thing for Progressive Rock.

Jethro Tull was mentioned for "Thick as a Brick", which is basically three or four songs interwoven and presented in two tracks with a sort of musical meltdown in the middle to make for a smoother side change on vinyl. (Can't neglect the effect the LP had on this kind of thing.) Also they put out "A Passion Play", which is the same sort of thing, except instead of several interesting themes, interwoven for 45 minutes, it's 35 minutes of noodling followed by two really nifty bits. Basically follows Milton's "Paradise Lost", and Satan is definitely the interesting part. Also, more in the vein of wwhat is being discussed, "Aqualung". While not telling a story per se, each song either goes directly into the next, or there are transitional, interlude type tracks, "Wond'ring Aloud" is the perfect example.

Yes has some albums like this too. "Relayer" and "Tales from Topographic Oceans" really don't make any sense except as whole albums. "Fragile" has some of that feel to it too.

I wouldn't say that Most Floyd albums fit the bill so much as the more dominant Roger Waters became in the band, the more concept driven ther Albums became. "Animals", "Wish you Were Here", "Dark Side", of course "The Wall", and "The Final Cut" all hang together perfectly. There're also the two soundtracks, "More" and "Obscured by Clouds", but I don't know if soundtracks really count, and these don't really hang together without the movies they go with, though they are great listening. "Obscured by Clouds" is almost certainly my favorite Floyd album.

Roger Waters continues this in his solo career. "KAOS" has been mentioned. (Caught the second show of that tour in Hartford. Blew my mind, and I was a total straight-edge geek at the time.) "Amused to Death" is even more the concept album. Closer to "Thick as a Brick" than "Dark Side".

"The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" was mentioned, but all early Genesis has some of this tendency, particularly "Selling England by the Pound". Once they lost Peter Gabriel, they began their long slide into pop endign with "We Can't Dance", but, surprisingly, some of that epic scope showed up in "their penultimate effort, "Invisible Touch", not enough to make it a concept album, but enough to show that they hadn't lost everything.

"Joe's Garage" is the story album of Zappa's that is best known, but "The Grand Wazoo", "Thing Fish", and "Frank Zappa vs the Mothers of Prevention" are all album length stories. Less obvious, but hannging together every bit as well are "You are What you Is" and "Apostrophe" and the latter seems to flow almost perfectly into "Overnite Sensation." I remember one chemically saturated evening when a half dozen of my buddies and I put "Apostrophe/Overnite" on and sang the whole frickin thing, beginning to end, with backing vocals, harmonies, the whole 9 yards.

Maybe I am going to get smacked down on this next one, but, upon repeated listens, Cake's "Comfort Eagle" hangs together and flows song to song every bit as well as "Dark Side" or "Aqualung".

I hate to bring this up, but Styx, "Kilroy was Here" is nothing but a kitsch laden and badly executed concept album.

Now what I can't believe is that I am going to be the first one (unless someone chimed in while I was scibing this apparently endless missive) to mention "Tommy" and "Quadrophrenia". Say what you will about The Who - I don't much care for them myself - but they surely made the rock opera happen with those two.

There are more, I know there are, but the night is growing crows feet, and the maids are coming tomorrow so, according to flawlessly incomprehensible female logic, we must clean this evening.

grendel 02-02-2005 05:41 PM

i called Tommy. :)

good call on the Dream Theater stuff. i meant to mention Scenes From a Memory...

also, Marillion's Clutching at Straws and Misplaced Childhood would fit in this discussion, too.

K-Wise 02-02-2005 07:02 PM

Edit: Didn't read the post well enough be back when I think some more :thumbsup:

Asta!!

saut 02-02-2005 07:09 PM

Well since I'm on such a huge Opeth kick right now....

Opeth - Still Life : a concept album about a man who is exiled then returns after some years to get his woman back. Tragity ensues.

Opeth - My Arms, Your Hearse: another concept album about a man (who dies) and watches and *interacts* with his loved ones, especially his widow. Tragity ensues.

Opeth - Blackwater Park: not really a concept album completely... but there is somewhat of a theme to the album. Tragity also ensues.


And of course, the classic Lateralus by Tool.

splck 02-02-2005 07:26 PM

Mike Oldfield - Tubular bells
The Who - Quadrophenia
Rush - A Farewell to Kings

That's what I can think of at the moment, but I'm sure there are lots more.

Val_1 02-02-2005 07:33 PM

I listen to most CDs all the way through. If it's not enjoyable that way, then I usually don't listen to it much at all. I feel all well crafted albums should sound like all the songs belong together. The bands I enjoys most have albums that all sound cohesive, yet each album sounds different from each other. Some of my faves: Zeppelin, Dylan, Prince, Gabriel (and Gabriel era Genesis), Bowie, Radiohead, Beck... amonst others, but these guys sound like they put alot of effort into making an album sound like an ... album.

God of Thunder 02-02-2005 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry Cox
What about Rush "2112"?

I second that.

Boston - Third Stage
The Who - Tommy
Triumph - Thunder 7
Steely Dan - AJA

Edit: looks like I wasn't the first for "Tommy", but I add my vote. :thumbsup:

Dbass 02-02-2005 07:48 PM

Holy shit...Is anyone here from the Philly/West Chester PA area? The greatest album to come out of the greater Philadelphia area ever!! ALISON RANGER'S FORMULA IMPERATIVE. It's amazing, it seems to be telling the story of someone drowning, but the band won't be forward about it...also my girlfriend plays violin on several tracks and our bandmate plays cello. check it out if you can!

krwlz 02-02-2005 07:50 PM

I find SLayer's God Hates us All like that, as well as a select few others... Trying to think of them...

Stompy 02-02-2005 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coppertop
...Also Delirium Cordia by Fantomas (one 74 minute song).

Yes!! I couldn't agree more. That CD is simply brilliant. I love it.

kutulu 02-03-2005 08:58 AM

This may be different for pop music but my general feeling is that most metal albums are this way. The early works of Metallica, Megadeth, and Slayer always worked together from start to end.

ltj241 02-03-2005 01:08 PM

The Locust - Plague Soundscapes....but i bet 99% of yall wont make it through the 20 min cd......it can be really hard to listen to. I can only listen to a song or two at a time, and thats just mainly because i think the stuff is kinda funny

CMH 02-03-2005 02:33 PM

Dirt, Alice In Chains.

Master_Shake 02-04-2005 11:59 AM

Of course all the Floyd, but some other Prog. Rock:
The Moody Blues' Days of Future Passed
Rick Wakeman's Journey to the Center of the Earth

Soul album:
Isaac Hayes' Hot Buttered Soul

Funk:
Parliament's Funkentelechy Vs. the Placebo Syndrome

Hip Hop:
Dr. Dre's The Chronic
RJD2's Deadringer

Classical:
Beethoven's 9th Symphony, you're doing yourself a disservice if all you've ever heard is the last movement. This thing is meant to build on itself and when it finally reaches the choral sections at the end, well, damn.

Bacchanal 02-04-2005 12:01 PM

I dont know that I have anything new to add, since so many have already expressed my opinion here.

Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon
Tool - Lateralus and Ænima
The Mars Volta - De-loused In The Comatorium
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
Opeth - Blackwater Park (The only CD I own by them; I'll remedy that soon)

Paradise Lost 02-04-2005 01:02 PM

The Band - Music from Big Pink
The Band - The Band
Van Morrison - Moondance

That's about it in terms of full albums. Lots of songs really are just filler. :P

tspikes51 02-04-2005 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hambone
Ok, cheap answer: The Decline - NOFX

it is only 1 song....an 18 minute song, but 1 song nonetheless.

And their worst one at that. Punk in Drublic was much better. How about Satellite by POD or Toxicity by System of a Down or The Battle of Los Angeles by RATM???

Val_1 02-04-2005 05:12 PM

Ziggy Stardust - Bowie
Electric Ladyland - Hendrix
Blood on the Track - Dylan
Miles Ahead - Miles Davis
Sheik Yerbootti - Zappa

anleja 02-04-2005 05:35 PM

I like how the songs on Massive Attack's "Protection" are sequenced. Imagine it on a vinyl album (or cassette, I guess). The first song on each side is sung by Tracy Thorn, the second song on each side has vocals (can't really call it singing) by Tricky, the third songs are sung by Nicolette, the fourth songs are instumentals, and the last song on each side is sung by Horace Andy. I always thought that was pretty cool.

sgn43 02-04-2005 10:34 PM

Dredg - El Cielo
Dredg - Leit Motif



and also, I have to say that though Kid A and OK Computer flow extremely well, The Bends was Radiohead's most cohesive album (in my opinion). with that said, I love them all the same.

warrrreagl 02-05-2005 03:51 AM

Sgt. Pepper (the ORIGINAL concept album)
Abbey Road

silent_jay 02-05-2005 08:37 AM

Jeff Buckley "Grace" has a great flow to it, not a weak song on the album

jonjon42 02-05-2005 03:43 PM

wow it took awhile for anybody to mention Sgt. pepper...
I would also like to add that the Yoshimi album begins as these cohesive albums but breaks off a bit.

Daft Punk - Discovery (it's somewhat cleaerer from the movie Intersteller 555)

Scipio 02-05-2005 05:27 PM

Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot

zensheep 02-06-2005 12:58 AM

Armor For Sleep - Dream To Make Believe
Armor For Sleep - What to Do When You're Dead

Both of Armor For Sleep's albums are concept albums; all of the songs on the first album are based on a series of dreams that the lead singer had. The second album's songs are designed to portray that the "character" in the first CD wasn't actually dreaming, he was dying, and what happens after he realizes this. Taken on their own, each song is seemingly a typical song about lost love, or loneliness, or fear, etc., but when they're put together you can see a story beginning to emerge. I highly recommend them.

Min 02-06-2005 02:08 AM

Several great albums mentioned already.
I would add Queensryche's Operation Mindcrime, Dimmu Borgir's Enthrone Darkness Triumphant and Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia and albums, Ayreon's Human Equation (or any of his really), Sonata Arctica's The Reckoning and Winterheart's Guild.

warrrreagl 02-06-2005 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonjon42
wow it took awhile for anybody to mention Sgt. pepper...

I would like to think it was left off out of respect for me, but more than likely it was pity.

sadistikdreams 02-06-2005 01:21 PM

The Love Below - Outkast

Scipio 02-06-2005 08:49 PM

Stankonia is much better than either the love below or speakerboxxx.


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