what's your least favorite music?

[dman2]

Lets see which group gets the biggest response:
a) classical
b) rock
c) rap
d) country
e) dance/techno

I wanted to post this as a running total survey, but don't know how. Anybody have a clue?

[splck]

Rap...can't handle that shit.

[roachboy]

country.
no question.

[Stare At The Sun]

Rap.

Perhaps you should add a poll?

[brandon11983]

All of the above.

[dman2]

Please vote your choice

[paddyjoe]

I'd rather listen to Lawrence Welk play his accordian than listen to rap.

[Booray]

rap with dance/techno running a close second

as far as country, i hate the new country that gets played all the time the past few years (i.e. Garth Brooks, etc.) but like a lot of the older stuff (Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, Hank Williams, Johnny Cash, etc.) and love most bluegrass.

[Rdr4evr]

I would have to go with Dance/Techno, followed by Country.

[kiwiman]

Congratulations.

[jakewesier]

that's a pretty broad way of doing a poll. I love elements of all music. I love Rock for example but am not a fan of bands like Blink or Good Charlotte for example. You need to have a broader poll I think

[K-Wise]

Yeah I'm too eclectic to pin myself down to one genre.

Asta!!

[Jerron36]

I can't stand Rap...it drives me crazy!!!!

[unregistered092]

down with rap!

[Rdr4evr]

EDIT: Didn't know thread was combined.....

[radioguy]

country all the way. can't stand it.

[Derwood]

I picked Country so long as what you are referring to is what I call "Nashville Pop" (ie Shania Twain, Garth Brooks, Dixie Chicks, Brooks and Dunn, etc.) I DO like Johnny Cash, Hank Williams Sr., etc.

[Bill O'Rights]

I'm not a big fan of Country...but then again, Rap (music?) also makes me climb the walls as well. But even among those two genres, there are a few, albeit precious few, pieces that I can actualy enjoy. I am extremely eclectic in my choice of music. It really all depends on my mood of the day.

[Glory's Sun]

Rap uugh

but.. I would have to ask you to define "Techno"

[cj2112]

rap, i can hardly be in earshot of it

[OFKU0]

Originally Posted by Booray

rap with dance/techno running a close second

as far as country, i hate the new country that gets played all the time the past few years (i.e. Garth Brooks, etc.) but like a lot of the older stuff (Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, Hank Williams, Johnny Cash, etc.) and love most bluegrass.

Yup about the same. I like country especially the bluegrass pickers and jazz just because it seems to jive with me. Don't mind the blues to much but when it gets repetitative I find it boring. Same with trad jazz, like Jim Hall or someone. It's nice but after a while it is all the same. Prefer jazz fusion more. More fun to play also.

[nukeu666]

dance&trance
same beat, same lyrics(if any)

[SiN]

Originally Posted by dman2

I wanted to post this as a running total survey, but don't know how. Anybody have a clue?

I see you've figured it out...better would have been to pm a mod at some point to help you keep things clean..

anyways, i've merged the threads.

so few choices...but regardless...country gets my vote (except for Johnny Cash).

not a fan of shitty pop, rap, adult contemporary, most punk, most hip-hop, rockabilly, most ska, most reggae, 'jam' bands (greatful dead, phish, etc) ... and that's all I can think of.

shit, sounds like i don't like much ... but, trust me, I've a large collection of music I *do* like.

oh, and I respect good musicians of all genres.

[LLL2]

I had to pick country music.Because sometimes rap sounds pretty good with some rock instrumentals playing in the background when their rapping/singing..

[Bacchanal]

As broad as this poll is, my vote has to go to country. I dont know that I've ever heard a coutry song that I've really liked. I've heard a few that I can tolerate, but nothing I'd ever spend money on.

[BlitzkriegKommt]

A good Rap song can sound good to my ears, but country? No, no, no, can't stand that. Except 'When Devil went down to Georgia.'

[Glory's Sun]

Originally Posted by SiN

shit, sounds like i don't like much ... but, trust me, I've a large collection of music I *do* like.

oh, and I respect good musicians of all genres.

OI!! to my fellow DnB fan!!!

[World's King]

Where's rockabilly?

[Tophat665]

<B>I would like to know when facility with a tape deck became a musical skill.</b> With all due respect to those of you who do enjoy techno, from where I sit, it's the equivalent of fapping to the Titty Board. Someboday takes something beautiful they found, and puts it out there, and then you look at it and perform a repetitive, if pleasing, motion.

At the risk of falling into the same trap myself, techo (particularly the varieties called Trance and House) consists entirely of none to long or complex snippets of other people's work repeated ad naseum, and then ad infinitum. If, say, Stairway to Heaven is a Van Gogh, or even a Hooper, then techo is a Fark Photoshop thread of nothing but Ackbar cliches.

There is the valid criticism that rap is guilty of the same thing (and, indeed, this pernicious practice has made its way into many genres which used to involve musical, rather than technical skill). I used to discard rap for just this reason. Then I ran across a cover of Gin and Juice by Snoop Dog, done by sa bluegrass band called the Gourds. Some of the lyrics are very clever, and the interlocking rhyme is quite adept. Then there was the Dynamite Hack cover of Boyz in the Hood, which is not as clever, and even less pertainent to my life, but turned out to make a pretty decent song with even half assed music behind it. So I gave some rap some more ear time, and Digital Underground surprised me, Eminem really surprised me (Lose Yourself is one of the very best songs of the last 10 years), and Outkast brought the lyrical style full circle with music behind it that, if it turns out it is sampled, it would be the equivalent of the very best Something Awful or Worth1000 photoshops, and if actually played, something like a Whelan or a Barlowe (to continue with the art metaphor - think sci-fi covers.)

There's also a lot of crap country out there, but there's a lot of crap in any genre, and there really is some excellent country too. Folks talking about Old School country - Johnny Cash, Patsy Cline, Hank Williams - remember, you don't hear the garbage that was out when they were starting and in there prime. It has deservedly faded from public memory. In 20 years, there will be bits of today's country that will get lumped in there too. I couldn't tell you what, though, because it is by no means my first choice of listening fare.

All of which is to say that, while rap shares some flaws with Techno/Trance/House/Dance, I really hate techno, and rap gets, if you will forgive me, a bad rap.

OK,
Don't sell rockabilly short until you've listened to Reverend Horton Heat.

[present_future]

Country. Please don't ever let me square dance.

[World's King]

OK,Don't sell rockabilly short until you've listened to Reverend Horton Heat.

Are you kidding? All I listen to is rockabilly. And trust me... I've heard the Reverend.

[pinkie]

I love to dance to rockabilly.

[Glory's Sun]

Originally Posted by Tophat665

<B>I would like to know when facility with a tape deck became a musical skill.</b> With all due respect to those of you who do enjoy techno, from where I sit, it's the equivalent of fapping to the Titty Board. Someboday takes something beautiful they found, and puts it out there, and then you look at it and perform a repetitive, if pleasing, motion.

At the risk of falling into the same trap myself, techo (particularly the varieties called Trance and House) consists entirely of none to long or complex snippets of other people's work repeated ad naseum, and then ad infinitum. If, say, Stairway to Heaven is a Van Gogh, or even a Hooper, then techo is a Fark Photoshop thread of nothing but Ackbar cliches.

Ok I can't not let this go by. TECHNO is a seperate genre of electronic music. Why people continue to lump all electronic with "TECHNO" I have no idea. I'm not too fond of trance and I can understand the repetitive beat in all that. Now house is a different animal. House tends to be repetitive unless you listen to progressive house then it is on a progressive scale. It's a much better form of House music. To say that it is all other people's work repeated is simply unreal. The beat may sound the same to an untrained ear but believe me it's different. You can listen to DJ Dan and follow it with say Laurent Garnier (sp?) and you'll notice a huge difference. Guess what..they are still house dj's and producers. Anyway if you're going to hate one form of music at least give it a chance and understand the different aspects of it. I hate rap but love underground hip-hop. There's a big BIG difference. Anyway, if you want to listen to good electronic then drop some good Drum and Bass in the player and jam out.

[Midnight_Son]

If we're voting on music, then Rap shouldn't even be on the list.

[roachboy]

I would like to know when facility with a tape deck became a musical skill.

depends what you understand by a musical skill, doesnt it? if you are talking about the ability to arrange sonic elements in a particular space, then why would manipulation of recordings not be every bit the musical skill as playing a conventional instrument? this shift from consumption of recordings to production is not obvious: it requires a fairly complex remapping of your relation to sound--it is a skill. it is a form of composition--it can be a form of improvisation.

in the group i work with, we use a shortwave radio and some electronic processing boxes as a basic element of our sound. we juxtapose it with piano, which i approach using extended techniques in order to make a space that you cannot simply think about from either angle. there is considerable technique involved with processing the radio, but it does not rely on years of finger exercizes to get to it. at the level of the sonic spaces that get made, the electronics converges with the outer edge of straight instrumental technique, if you let it--it you position it that way--and i think there is a really strong argument for doing it.

the usual way i suggest that folk disabuse themselves of the old school prejudices about what is and is not a "musical skill" is to tell the person making the objection to try it for him or herself. you can make basic sounds with a turntablist set-up quite easily, but it is really not easy to be any good at it. you can manipulate recorded material pretty easily, but it is not at all obvious that what you made by doing it would be interesting. what you have here is a version of the usual objection to conceptual art--i could have done that--to which the only response is--why didnt you?

and if protools or audition give possibilities for organizing sound to people who do not have "proper" musical training, so what? i do not see any argument that would equate this is a bad thing, with a deterioration of "real music" at all--you could argue the opposite in fact--that in some cases, the ways in which sound is organized by folk who come to it acrosss these software platforms is more radically other than anything you would encounter made by folk who come to it through convetional channels,
folk who organize sound across software platforms might open other ways of thinking sound, thinking the spaces within which sound can be placed..that might well transform how players with more convetional techniques work themselves.

further, these platforms undermine the arbitrary distinctions that enable some people to imagine that they hold some kind of monopoly on the production of "legitimate" music. i do not see the problem with that either.

all this is not to say that everything that is produced in these ways is equally interesting, equally important--there is a skill dimension to it. but it seems really limiting to simply exclude entire regions of musical production because you do not recignize the skills that are involved with it.

on another note, tape music has been one of the primariy drivers in the development of contemporary classical music from the late 1940s onward. i could give you a long long list of composers who work in/with the medium--james tenney, xenakis, elaine radigue, morton subotnik, on and on--much of the earlier tape/electronic music is doubly interesting because it was being made before assumptions that electronic music had to imitate convetional instruments was developed.

all this said, i am not particularly a techno fan because of the restricted set of beats that are used in most dance-oriented version of the form. i quite like hip hop when there is a significant role played by the turntablists. drum and bass is a seperate matter--i am something of an idiot fan.

It's unfair to group musical artists the way they are grouped. Most people really making music dont sit around trying to write "country" or "rap" they write music, it's the industry and the silly magazines that give those titles to music. How can you say you hate country unless you've heard every band that has ever been called "country." I think twangy guitars sound just as bad as most, but i wouldnt say i hate country. I like whiskeytown, and i've heard some people refer to johnny cash as country, and i think he's great.

[YaWhateva]

ack country, and by country i in no way mean Johnny Cash because he was the man. I hate country so much

[dman2]

Originally Posted by guccilvr

Rap uugh

but.. I would have to ask you to define "Techno"

Techno would be like music you hear in a club or something, no words, just music.

[dman2]

Thanks for all the response so far. It seems that rap and country so far have the vote for least favorite music

[Glory's Sun]

Originally Posted by dman2

Techno would be like music you hear in a club or something, no words, just music.

so you mean most Electronic in general then.. although there is quite a bit of vocal electronic out there. I do have to say that your poll is too broad. There are too many subgenres of music to gain a respectable opinion of the genre as a whole..