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Arroe 11-20-2004 12:58 AM

Blues and old rock and roll
 
I picked up the remastered version of Layla by Derek and the Dominoes this week and love it. I am only 18 so I over the past year I have started to discover music from before my time and I must say I am hooked. I have played my stratocaster every day since I started playing guitar three years ago and have quickly progressed into being capable of playing somewhat complicated pieces with ease.

Recently I formed a band and we want to play blues and old rock and roll like Clapton, Hendrix, and the Stones. Just wondering if anyone can give me some ideas for some awesome music I might be missing out from the late 60's and 70's. I hope to become inspired by some other artists.

It's my goal with my band to bring back the greatest era of music as much as I can. With the crappy bands out today, I wonder where did we go wrong? How did we come from such beautiful love songs with awesome creative guitar parts to whiney crap with power chords we hear today? Makes me sad :(

warrrreagl 11-20-2004 04:04 AM

You've got Clapton, so I assume you're exploring Cream and Blind Faith. Try Ten Years After, John Mayall, and Zappa.

K-Wise 11-20-2004 11:27 AM

Well blues rock I'd say Stevie Ray Vaughn, Black Crows, Robin Trower, Pink Floyd(Gilmour is the best), Allman Brothers, etc. But go for actual blues men too. Muddy Waters, BB, Johnson.

Asta!!

Harry Cox 11-20-2004 11:32 AM

There's this little band from England called Led Zeppelin that based a lot of their music (especially the early stuff) on the blues.

Paradise Lost 11-20-2004 11:35 AM

Hey, it makes me sad too, dude. Which is why I love my Dad for getting me into the old stuff. If you're looking for Blues to really play out on your Guitar, do the Allman Brothers Band (Duane Allman/Dickie Betts), if you looking for a more soulful approach to it, go with the Chicago Blues scene, I'm sure at CDNow/Amazon there's a section under Blues specifying era, just look up Artists and start finding songs. Also, if Shoutcast is still up and running, find the Radio Station Paradynamic Roadhouse, Drink or Die Barstool Blues - they only play da old stuffs (Magic Sam, Lightning Hopkins, Elmore James, Albert King, Muddy Waters, Little Walter, Howlin' Wolf, Sonny Boy Williamson - I and II, etc.)

And while it's progressive rock, you can always learn a thing or two from the Guitarists in Yes (Steve Howe), Rush (Alex Lifeson), and Jethro Tull (Mick Abrahams) (who's early stuff is actually mostly blues.)

And if you're just looking for plain old beautiful music, check out stuff by "The Band," you're group may never be able to play it, but god damn it's good.

Have fun with it, I wish I had the coordination and patience to learn how to play guitar. :) (Which I guess that's why I play Bass.) :thumbsup:

merkerguitars 11-20-2004 05:38 PM

Yardbirds, trust me you'll love them also another good artist from that era was Tommy Bolin

darkmagnus 11-21-2004 12:58 PM

Here are some for you:

The Band - The Band
George Harrison - All Things Must Pass (has some great guitar work)
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young - Deja Vue
Fleetwood Mac - The real early stuff with Peter Green
Santana - Abraxas

And if you want to listen to somebody current, but is an absolutely incredible guitar player, check out Warren Haynes .

K-Wise 11-21-2004 02:01 PM

^ Or the Los Lonely Boys. Don't laugh they know their shit.

Asta!!

Gortexfogg 11-22-2004 11:50 AM

If you want music rich in tradition, check out pretty much anything by Bob Dylan. He knows music history and his songs show it.

K-Wise 11-22-2004 06:32 PM

If you got AIM I'll hook you up with some Floyd when I get mine back...you ain't heard rock guitar until you've heard Gilmour play. He has so much emotion in his playing. Great shit, may not be the best ever but he's my favorite.

Asta!!

Arroe 11-22-2004 11:17 PM

thanks a lot.

most of that stuff I already listen to like zeppelin, floyd, and vaughn, but some of that I'll have to look into. this should provide useful for my musical enjoyment :)

Shizukana 11-23-2004 06:20 AM

You might go for some Jeff Beck, Eric Johnson, Doyle Bramhall, Jim Suhler and/or Ted Nugent (don't laugh, Suhler is Ted's guitarist and fucking shreds rock/blues to pieces)... Wish I could give ya some locals to look for but it would probably be tough to find their music.

K-Wise 11-23-2004 02:57 PM

What Floyd albums do you have Arroe?

Asta!!

Arroe 11-23-2004 11:06 PM

well, just the wall



any suggestions for more love stuff like what clapton wrote? right now I think I'm being torn to shreds thinking about this one girl and i am drowning in a sea of blues music. I think I'm becoming masacistic here - I am making myself feel like complete crap but I love it!

K-Wise 11-24-2004 05:02 AM

You mean Clapton music or resembeling Clapton's music? If so, like what Clapton? And just owning The Wall simply won't do my friend ;). Pick up <i>The Final Cut</i> or <i>The Division Bell</i> to hear some really great, heavy emotional guitar playing from Gilmour. Do you have AIM? I'd be glad to hook you up with songs. I also have Darkside Of The Moon which has good guitar on songs like Money, Animals, Wish You Were Here, and A Momentary Lapse Of Reason(I LOVE this album, so underrated) but other than AMLOR I think the I guess experimentation and complexity of Waters music writing didn't really allow Gilmour to play some guitar like you may hear on say... <i>A Great Day For Freedom</i> or <i>On The Turning Away</i>. I like Prince a shit load too. He doesn't always feel the need to blow your mind with a guitar solo though. I don't know TOO many people that sound like Clapton does. Some of the guys I already mentioned maybe BB King and him like to work together. Allman Brothers are a little like him. Robin Trower is good he's considered a Guitar legend. Hendrix was one of his mentor's I believe..least they say. Lesley West from Mountain is also pretty much a legend but he's more southern rocky. Of course check out Cream if you haven't yet Clapton was in Cream...he worked with George Harrison too before George found out Laylah was about HIS wife. I don't know enough blues to help ya out. I'm trying to get more of it myself so I can hear all there is out there.

Asta!!

sherpahigh 11-24-2004 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arroe
It's my goal with my band to bring back the greatest era of music as much as I can. With the crappy bands out today, I wonder where did we go wrong? How did we come from such beautiful love songs with awesome creative guitar parts to whiney crap with power chords we hear today? Makes me sad :(

Nice to try and bring back the good ol' days of great music, but it's never really gone anywhere. There's still tons of great music that's being made, it's just not popular anymore. The crap you talk about, the whiney crap with the power chords. It seems to be what the masses want, or maybe more correctly, what the media controlers want to sell to the masses.

That said, the more bands out there creating soulful music with creativity, the better. I say give it your all.

For a good example of a living legend still pumping out incredible music, like someone has already suggested, check out Warran Haynes. He's an unbelieveable guitar player. You can check out his band Gov't Mule for some rockin' blues tunes as well. I'd recommend the live stuff. I caught their show just last week and was totally blown away, Haynes is a master of the guitar, truely incredible to see up close and personal.

K-Wise 11-24-2004 03:46 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Warren Haynes plays for The Allman Brothers now as well. Dereck Trucks also plays with them and he too is a gifted guitarist. But Gov't Mule all star line up. Talkin people like Les Claypool and Victor Wooten on bass among various other musicians.

Asta!!

QuasiMojo 11-24-2004 05:43 PM

How much acid have you taken?

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just askin' : )

Booray 11-24-2004 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherpahigh
Haynes is a master of the guitar, truely incredible to see up close and personal.


Warren's got one helluva voice too. One of the hardest working musicians around. Actually was splitting time between three great bands from about Feb 01 to Sep. 02: the Allmans, Mule, and Phil and Friends (i.e. Phil Lesh of Grateful Dead fame). Now just back to splitting between Mule and the Allmans.

Some other ideas of bands to check out (that I don't think have been mentioned yet; there's a bunch of great ones already named that are some good picks):

Widespread Panic (best first album to check out would be Everyday; came out in '93)
North Mississippi Allstars (really fun blues/rock band to see live; won a grammy for best contemporary blues album a few years ago; although the grammys are shit as far as a measure of quality music, they definitely deserved the recognition)
The Radiators
Savoy Brown
ZZ Top (primarily their earlier stuff, but still some other great albums throughout their career)
Hot Tuna
Grateful Dead
Jefferson Airplane
Paul Butterfield Blues Band
Johnny Winter
Edgar Winter
Mike Bloomfield, Al Kooper, and Stephen Stills' "Super Session" album
The Animals
Big Brother & the Holding Company
Canned Heat

QuasiMojo 11-24-2004 06:23 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
These are some well thought out and SUPERIOR bands to sit down and listen to!
but to feel them....well...:/

Grand Funk Railroad and some cleeeeeeean clean acid. There ya are. : )

you'll be singing "Take These Sunken Eyes" before ya know it.

K-Wise 11-24-2004 07:01 PM

^ Shit I'm listening to Heartbreaker right now I was JUST about to mention them! Dammit you beat me to it!

Asta!!

QuasiMojo 11-24-2004 07:19 PM

Everybody, listen to me,
And return me, my ship.
I知 your captain, I知 your captain,
Although I知 feeling mighty sick.

I致e been lost now, days uncounted,
And it痴 months since I致e seen home.
Can you hear me, can you hear me,
Or am I all alone.

If you return me, to my home port,
I will kiss you mother earth.
Take me back now, take me back now,
To the port of my birth.

Am I in my cabin dreaming, or are you really scheming,
To take my ship away from me?

You壇 better think about it, I just can稚 live without it.
So, please don稚 take my ship from me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah ...

I can feel the hand, of a stranger,
And it痴 tightening, around my throat.
Heaven help me, heaven help me,
Take this stranger from my boat.

I知 your captain, I知 your captain,
Although I知 feeling mighty sick.
Everybody, listen to me,
And return me, my ship.

I知 your captain, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I知 your captain, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I知 your captain, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I知 your captain, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I知 getting closer to my home ...
I知 getting closer to my home ...
I知 getting closer to my home ...
I知 getting closer to my home ...
Ohhhh ...

I知 getting closer to my home ...
I知 getting closer to my home ...
I知 getting closer to my home ...
I知 getting closer to my home ...
Repeated to fade

I'M YOUR CAPTAIN- Grand Funk Railroad

Booray 11-24-2004 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuasiMojo
Grand Funk Railroad and some cleeeeeeean clean acid. There ya are. : )

they flickered through my mind when I was typing my list. actually meant to include 'em. good pick

QuasiMojo 11-24-2004 07:42 PM

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K-Wise 11-24-2004 09:17 PM

I'M YOUR CAPTAIN is actually JUST finishing on my i-Tunes...I have the shit on shuffle so big coincidence there.

Asta!!

braindamage351 01-29-2005 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Wise
Of course check out Cream if you haven't yet Clapton was in Cream...he worked with George Harrison too before George found out Laylah was about HIS wife.

They reconciled. Don't forget, Something was about Clapton's wife.

Shizukana 01-30-2005 02:26 AM

I guess I should throw Jeff Healey's name out there, in addition to the ones I mentioned before. Oh, and some Buddy Guy... Jonny Lang and Kenny Wanye Shepard are two "newer" faces in the blues world as well... I don't really like Los Lonely Boys but I have a few friends that are huge blues fans that love them, so take that as you will.

In fact... you know what? Save up some money, go to Best Buy, and buy the Crossroads DVD... no, not the Britney Spears movie... the concert footage DVD from the Crossroads Festival, which was held at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas in Summer 2004. That's got about as good of a sampling of blues and good rock and roll as anything you'll find out there today.

K-Wise 01-30-2005 02:28 AM

^ Really? I never knew that.

Asta!!

izzzzy 01-30-2005 07:49 AM

ray charles tim hardin john lee hooker george thorogood

K-Wise 01-30-2005 05:24 PM

The Black Keys :D
Joe Bonomassa :D

Asta!!

John Henry 04-22-2005 04:59 AM

Well if you really want to start from there, one great Blues/Rock band from the 60s that are almost always overlooked are Capatain Beefheart and the Magic Band. Whatever you do, though don't listen to any of their 'fans' who tell you that Trout Mask Replica was their best. As far as I know, Safe as Milk, recorded when Ry Cooder was still with them, was their only good album (and one of the best ever made if you ask me) the rest is just pretentious avant-garde crap. Another band in this category who always seem to be overlooked because of their popularity are the Beatles.

I agree with K-Wise on this. If you want to be on a par with the blues-rock bands of the sixties, don't copy them, copy the people they copied.

The way modern music got to the barre chord whiny-crap state it's in these days was via rip-off merchants like Clapton. Everybody keeps copying everybody else, every time losing something, with the music getting thinner and thinner until we end up with this vapid bullshit we have today.

Fuck Clapton, fuck the rest of the whiteboy copycat bullshit. If you really want to bring back the best music from the 20th century, listen to Son House, Tommy Johnson, Robert Johnson, Blind Willie Johnson, Blind Willie Mctell, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Leadbelly, Muddy Waters, Blind Blake, Freddie King, Albert King, BB King, Skip James, the list goes on...

Please don't take my rant as being directed at you. I'm dealing with a lot of repressed anger towards Elvis at the moment and this is just how it's coming out.

bullgoose 04-24-2005 03:37 AM

DO NOT EVER FORGET LOWELL GEORGE AND LITTLE FEAT!!!
John Mayall is a requirement for '60's blues
It's hard for me not to say for you to listen to the great early bluesmen like Charlie Patton, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Blind Willie McTell, et al; a tremendous amount of that early stuff is available on CD; and it will send a chill up your spine; THOSE are the guys that influenced Clapton and Hendrix And Duane Allman. Getting back to '60;s/'70's, Delaney & Bonnie & Friends will blow you away.


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